WWI Digest 1357 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) "Legs"stats wasRe: Possible German WWI Discussion Board by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: List Band stuff by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: List Band stuff by "Steven M. Perry" 4) Re: Fw: What's everyone really building? by Pedro e Francisca Soares 5) RE: What's everyone really building? by Shane Weier 6) RE: What's everyone really building? by Shane Weier 7) veering back fromRe: List Band stuff by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Winter casualties by "Gerald P. McOsker" 9) Re: What's everyone really building? by Geoff Smith 10) Re: LeBoutiller by Dennis Ugulano 11) Re: Voss Albatross D-III by Ernest Thomas 12) Re: List Band stuff by Ernest Thomas 13) Dallas's SE5a, D3511 by "cameron rile" 14) Re: Whats everyone really building? by r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) 15) Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 16) RE: What's everyone really building? by "John C Glaser" 17) Re: Voss Albatross D-III by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) RE: Possible German WWI Discussion Board by Shane Weier 19) Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board by Bill Bacon 20) Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 21) Happy New Year by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 22) Re: Voss Albatross D-III by "Sandy Adam" 23) Re: Voss Albatross D-III by Sharon Henderson 24) This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! by Shane Weier 25) RE: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! by "John C Glaser" 26) Nieuport Nighthawk by "David Vosburgh" 27) Re: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! by Carlos Valdes 28) Images by "Steven M. Perry" 29) Re: Images by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: Info by Allan Wright 31) Re: Images by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 32) Re: Images by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:12:01 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "Legs"stats wasRe: Possible German WWI Discussion Board Message-ID: <65d0436d.368a8911@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/98 4:01:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@kaien.com writes: << Excuse me . . . . . . . . I was only sent down to Phoenix for a weekend before I was returned to the major league city of Prince Rupert, BC, Canada ! ! ! !! ! Bob Models finished profiles Lifetime 1/48 1/24 computer 500+ 1100 50 300 >> ROTFLAVU!!!! RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:59 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Band stuff Message-ID: <87f8b1ca.368a890f@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/98 5:49:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, sharon@portcullis.maxson.com writes: << Or maybe keep it fairly international, and call the group "The Lifters"? Or maybe "Fuselage Girls"? :-) :-) Sharon, Not Enough Caffeine at Work Yet! >> The Strutters? Rumpf Girls? The Harry Tates? Tail Skids? LunAviatiks? I'm deeply sorry.... Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:44:59 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Band stuff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981230154459.0069bd54@pop.mindspring.com> ><< "The Garuda Sisters"? >> > >They could prop up the guys during long gigs >sorry... >Rk This is fast getting out of hand...Somebody!...Release a new kit or something...quick! :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:14:20 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: WW1 modeling list Subject: Re: Fw: What's everyone really building? Message-ID: <368A899C.1F2CACDB@mail.telepac.pt> Bill wrote: > -. > > > > Well, there is a largish rectangular "inspection panel" on the metal > > portion just aft of the cowling in at least some of my phots. I > > can't detect any on the cowling itself. > > snip > Thanks a lot Bill. Great info. and also Thanks to Ivan, Mike and Steven for their help. Where but here can you put a doubt and have an answer in so little time? Happy new year to you all guys. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:32:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What's everyone really building? Message-ID: Mick, > My spouse [reading over my shoulder (and nursing a broken > wrist, the result of body-contact with a frozen lake!)], heartily > endorses that sentiment. Please pass Hanna condolences from Meg and I. Somehow we'd both nominated *you* to be the one most likely to... Enjoy the snow mate. Blooody hot in these parts. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:37:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What's everyone really building? Message-ID: RK > [Frolicking in the Frozen North 80) ] > > > Yes, but are you feeling Frisky? > > I doubt it. Frisky had to stay in Newcastle. Hannalore put her foot down ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:10:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: veering back fromRe: List Band stuff Message-ID: <2cb49521.368ab2e3@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/98 12:43:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << ><< "The Garuda Sisters"? >> > >They could prop up the guys during long gigs >sorry... >Rk This is fast getting out of hand...Somebody!...Release a new kit or something...quick! :-) sp >> Yeah- ok- but how 'bout instead of an actual missive concerning models, the subject matter is about our beloved Listees? Here goes: I get to put real faces on two members. A couple of weeks ago, we got to meet John Cyg ( of wonderful 1/48 Albatros D I/II conversion kit fame!). He was in California and we made arrangements for a visit. A grand time was had by all! Last Sunday, Tom Werner Hansen and his wife Carol paid us a visit. Scandanavian good cheer all 'round! Another great afternoon, and, to demonstrate what a small world it can be, we found out that Carol grew up just a couple of miles from where I did! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:59:23 -0500 From: "Gerald P. McOsker" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Winter casualties Message-ID: Mick - you said- > broke her wrist in three places 80( It's now > pinned and in a cast, but she's recovering well. That's why my bride doesn't like cold climates- she's had a few falls although no bone breakers....yet. She just got back from visiting her kids in Florida and spent the day furiously cleaning everything- was nice to come home to a home cooked- Whilst she was away I just closed off all possible rooms [to keep cat fur down]- and retired to my garret with piles of books etc.- I should have finished off my 5 Oeffags but now I'm waiting for the Blue Max kit to use as a model for the kleiners- I really prefer to work in 1:72 as my close vision has gotten better with the advancement of age. I see your boys let the poms win one at Melbourne- which is a good idea- keeps them coming back- Hope the rest of your trip goes smoothly- Wieder Gerry > "A cavalry charge is very like ordinary life. So long as you are all right, firmly in your saddle, your horse in hand and well armed, lots of enemies will give you wide berth." WS Churchill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:05:13 +0000 From: Geoff Smith To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What's everyone really building? Message-ID: <368ABFB9.E569F61E@cwcom.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > (snip) Tell us more about the loco!! I've been dreaming about building a US narrow-gauge layout/diorama - in 1/72nd of course. :-) This is a Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway 0-6-0 Tender Goods loco, only about 45 ft long overall. They were built to haul goods (freight) traffic over the hills between Lancashire and Yorkshire and were powerful for the time and their size. I'm not sure how many were built altogether without counting them but the first orders amounted to 230 with a follow up for another 50 to the same design and then at least the same total again of a very slightly different design after that. They were built between 1876 and 1917, not a bad production run by any standard and this must at least prove their worth. Not being a company to throw money away, all the original 230 engines were rebuilt as saddle tanks around the turn of the century and the tenders used for later built engines. During WWI at least 200 were shipped to France to haul supplies from the Channel ports to the railheads behind the lines where light railways, lorries and horse drawn carts took over. Almost all returned at the end of the war. All were freshly painted in the full L & Y livery of Blackberry black with red & white lining before they went! Their war record was exemplary, none having been brought down by either ground fire or air combat though at 37 tons (without tender) I don't suppose the glide ratio would have been very good and this high weight led to an exceptional take-off run, none having managed that feat. Manouvrability (sp?) was low, straight line and very shallow turns being all it was capable of though the ability to stop and go backwards was an advantage. The crew of two were provided with no offensive weapons apart from a few lumps of coal (to hurl at passing enemy trains) and a couple of shovels and were largely ineffective, witness the lack of kills. They were, however well provided for, having a large fire in the cockpit and plenty of hot water for cups of tea. I hold to the view that they may have been the first operational use of jets as no photograph exists showing a propellor at either end though this cannot be confirmed due to the 350 year secrecy rule. None received personal markings.......or even national markings but the rumour still circulates that one famous Triplane pilot admired the colour scheme so much that he painted his plane to match. Almost. All this comes without the aid of intoxicating liquid and will serve as a warning to me to stay off the air tomorrow night so I'll wish you all and your families. A Very Happy New Year and the best of health and wealth for 1999. Geoff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:35:36 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: LeBoutiller Message-ID: <199812302136_MC2-651F-8AEF@compuserve.com> Hi Andy, Thanks for the information. I can add this bit of information to my growing knowledge of Boots. I really appreciate your input. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:45:23 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss Albatross D-III Message-ID: <368AE543.40DE@bellsouth.net> Sandy Adam wrote: > Apologies to Mark and the Emetic, If you mean me,(Emetic) no apologies are neccessary. I was just practising what I'm gonna say to the judges. > Strangely some of the other pics seem to indicate an offset doodah - I've been pouring over all my on-topic books and from what I can see, doodah's were NEVER offset. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:08:27 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Band stuff Message-ID: <368AEAAB.4928@bellsouth.net> Sharon Henderson wrote: > Years ago I established a list of people whose messages I ought not to > open when I have just taken a mouthful of Diet Coke, since carbonated > beverages snarfed through the sinuses hurt most mightily.... > I was the school champion snarf inducer in 10th grade. Glad to see I still got it. > But Ernest: what if one has a decided pro-Deutsch inclination, like me? > The Roundels just wouldn't do it.... How 'bout Die Kokarden? Or maybe > keep it fairly international, and call the group "The Lifters"? Or maybe > "Fuselage Girls"? :-) 'Fuslage Girls', I like that. So long as you got the empennage for it. ;) But back to the unimportant stuff, I thought band name was settled on as 'Jasta' somethingorother. And I figured 'The Roundels' would take the Teutonic edge off of things. But I've been saying for years, if we really want to pack em in at our gigs, we should call the band, 'Free Beer, No Cover'. Although, 'Airscrew' has a certain something... E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:21:07 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Dallas's SE5a, D3511 Message-ID: <199812302029363@cameron.prontomail.com> hi all, I have just done a short bio for Stanley Dallas on the AFC page and am about to attempt a profile on D3511 ( even though the ones I do arent as good as Bob Pearsons I do try to get them at least somewhere close to accurate ). I have been studying a pic(AWM) of Dallas's SE5a D3511 and have some questions. Is the light colour on the fuselage the brown or the green? Is the dark colour the brown or the green? What shades or depth of colour are the greens and tans? Is the dark colour PC10 ( the serial is over the darl colour ) , and where did he get the other colour from? Also is their a white ( or lighter ) circle on the wheel covers around the axle where it protudes near the wheel cover or am I looking to hard at it and seeing things that arent there? Any advice on it would be much appreciated. cam footer/signature Name : Cameron Riley AFC Page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm RB2 ArtAttack at : http://members.xoom.com/artattack/index.htm ----------- below this is prontomail adverts, please ignore --------- Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:53:20 EST From: r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Whats everyone really building? Message-ID: <19981230.205310.9319.2.r_niles@juno.com> Greetings all I am putting the finishing touches on a 1/25 General Civil War era locomotive. I have also started on a Glencoe 1/48th Pfalz DIII. I have Eduard's, but the Glencoe was closer to the top of the pile. Also, it gives me a chance to throw something together, rig it, and bring it to a meeting. That way I can show all of the others," Yes indeedy, the Pres does finish something once in a while." Happy New Year one and all. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missles...switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board Message-ID: <199812310506.VAA22023@compass.OregonVOS.net> Sandy Adam wrote: >Do you? I'm not sure I do myself! My problem with MvR is the one-sided >beatification of somebody who, in reality, was no more a saint than I am. >I'd more likely nominate MvR as the tired old subject matter of rat-bastard >pseudo-historians >My nom for the r-ba would probably be somebody like Werner Voss who >supposedly had the questionable habit of machine-gunning his crashed >victims (according to "Under the Guns.." etc). >One wonders how much of this sort of knowledge / surmise / myth was current >at the time - Its difficult to believe Rhys Davids would have been quite so >disappointed at killing him if it had been common knowledge - but then >maybe he did it too? And Lt. Henry Dolan wrote (after he and Mannock had downed a German two-seater within Allied lines): "The Hun crashed, but not badly, and most people would have been content with this - but not Mick Mannock, who dived half a dozen times at the machine, spraying bullets at the pilot and the observer, who were still showing signs of life. I witnessed this business, and flew along side Mick, yelling at the top of my voice (which was rather useless) and warning him to stop. On being questioned as to his wild behavior, after we had landed, he heatedly replied, 'The swines are better dead - no prisoners!" I think we who were not there and did not endure what they endured are ill-suited to be too judgmental of their behaviors 80 years after the fact. After a man has seen sufficient numbers of his mates dead or dying -crushed in their cockpits or burned to death or jumping from a thousand feet to avoid the flames or their faces blown off by machine gun bullets - and he has had to face on a daily basis the likelihood of his own immediate demise; well his behavior is not necessarily what it would be under "normal" circumstances. War is a bloody business. But let us not be too judgmental of the warriors. As the old saying goes, "Wuz you der, Charlie?" Who, who has not endured what they endured can say with certainly what his own behavior would be in those circumstances? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:13:50 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: What's everyone really building? Message-ID: <000d01be347c$5a0fb340$f011820a@johng-home> If you remember the 1960's you really weren't there. - Mr. G. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: What's everyone really building? In a message dated 12/30/98 3:26:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, lfendy@firstsaga.com writes: << >While she's building the kit, suggest she dress up like the women that appear >in the footage taken in airplane factories in WW I- that "Rosie the Doper" >look! I think I met her during the late sixties... Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm >> You too? RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:16:32 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss Albatross D-III Message-ID: <199812310516.VAA25731@compass.OregonVOS.net> Ernest Thomas writes: > >Bill Shatzer wrote: >(snip) >> But, I'm speculating again and YMMV. >Once again, I find your knowledge on the subject astounding. Thanks for the compliment but the knowledge really isn't mine - its mostly having a semi-decent library. The real knowledge comes from folks like Kilduff and Hylands and Franks and a host of others too numerous to mention who invested the time and energy and research in writing and publishing the books for only modest financial rewards. These folks, collectively, have probably earned fewer royalties in their lifetimes than Tom Clancey earns in a day - yet they continue their efforts. It's gotta be for love 'cause it sure ain't for the money. And we all owe a tip of our hats and a "thank you" to these folks. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:44:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Possible German WWI Discussion Board Message-ID: Bill in reply to Sandy: > I think we who were not there and did not endure what they endured are > ill-suited to be too judgmental of their behaviors 80 years after the > fact. Like it or no, it was probably their *duty* to shoot helpless aircrew *except* in a situation where they would not be of further harm - ie, where they were falling into captivity. Remembering that my tutorial on various conventions said that it would be my duty to shoot escaping prisoners (unarmed !) if necessary, because they were acting in the interests of my enemy by doing so - and that was in the 1970's, not during WW1. Frankly, I don't know why the shooting up of "helpless" aircrew should rate such a ballyhoo, when they could walk away and come shoot me in the back unannounced from out of the sun tomorrow. It wasn't a game folks, and silly Victorian ideals of mock Arthurian chivalry penned by wan poets sighting nothing more dangerous than a sharpened goose quill were certainly (and rightly) ignored by protagonists on every side. Shane (Who suggests a reading of "Winged Victory" as a cure for romanticism) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:01:18 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board Message-ID: <368B132E.A2D180AD@netjava.net> >From one who was ther in WWII, well and truely said. Cheers, Bill B. Bill Shatzer wrote: > Sandy Adam wrote: > > >Do you? I'm not sure I do myself! My problem with MvR is the one-sided > >beatification of somebody who, in reality, was no more a saint than I am. > >I'd more likely nominate MvR as the tired old subject matter of rat-bastard > >pseudo-historians > >My nom for the r-ba would probably be somebody like Werner Voss who > >supposedly had the questionable habit of machine-gunning his crashed > >victims (according to "Under the Guns.." etc). > >One wonders how much of this sort of knowledge / surmise / myth was current > >at the time - Its difficult to believe Rhys Davids would have been quite so > >disappointed at killing him if it had been common knowledge - but then > >maybe he did it too? > > And Lt. Henry Dolan wrote (after he and Mannock had downed a German > two-seater within Allied lines): > > "The Hun crashed, but not badly, and most people would have been > content with this - but not Mick Mannock, who dived half a dozen > times at the machine, spraying bullets at the pilot and the observer, > who were still showing signs of life. I witnessed this business, > and flew along side Mick, yelling at the top of my voice (which was > rather useless) and warning him to stop. On being questioned as to > his wild behavior, after we had landed, he heatedly replied, 'The > swines are better dead - no prisoners!" > > I think we who were not there and did not endure what they endured are > ill-suited to be too judgmental of their behaviors 80 years after the > fact. After a man has seen sufficient numbers of his mates dead or dying > -crushed in their cockpits or burned to death or jumping from a thousand > feet to avoid the flames or their faces blown off by machine gun bullets - > and he has had to face on a daily basis the likelihood of his own immediate > demise; well his behavior is not necessarily what it would be under "normal" > circumstances. > > War is a bloody business. But let us not be too judgmental of the warriors. > As the old saying goes, "Wuz you der, Charlie?" Who, who has not endured > what they endured can say with certainly what his own behavior would be > in those circumstances? > > Cheers and all, > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' > at will to old ladies!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:53 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Possible German WWI Discussion Board Message-ID: <368BC535.7C46@ricochet.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > I think we who were not there and did not endure what they endured are > ill-suited to be too judgmental of their behaviors 80 years after the > fact... Although I can appreciate all of Sandy's, Bill's & Shane's perspectives, my comment about r-bs which sparked all this was strictly in jest and not intended to initiate another thread on the paradoxical 'black-hearted angels of the Great War'. Continue at your own risk :-) Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:55:08 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Happy New Year Message-ID: <368C2AFC.80498D42@tac.com.au> Hi Gang, I would like to wish all a happy new year & to thank all for all the help the list has given Lorna & myself this year. Here's (chink) to one of the best lists around :-). Happy new year (hic) Shane & Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:18:35 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Voss Albatross D-III Message-ID: <199812311132.LAA06818@beryl.sol.co.uk> > > Strangely some of the other pics seem to indicate an offset doodah - > > I've been pouring over all my on-topic books and from what I can see, > doodah's were NEVER offset. :) Oh we're not back on Clinton again are we? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:51:50 -0500 (EST) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss Albatross D-III Message-ID: Bill wrote: > Thanks for the compliment but the knowledge really isn't mine - its > mostly having a semi-decent library. The real knowledge comes > from folks like Kilduff and Hylands and Franks and a host of others > too numerous to mention who invested the time and energy and > research in writing and publishing the books for only modest > financial rewards. > > These folks, collectively, have probably earned fewer royalties > in their lifetimes than Tom Clancey earns in a day - yet they > continue their efforts. It's gotta be for love 'cause it sure > ain't for the money. > > And we all owe a tip of our hats and a "thank you" to these folks. I would just like to add a fervent "Amen!" to this. Writing only brings in lots of bucks under certain circumstances, and those circumstances don't always favor the field of history. Even the maxi-prolific folks like Stephen Spears, Barbara Tuchman, and James I. MacPhearson don't make a living at it. There's always that dreaded "day job" that pays for the ride. :-) (I'm telnetting in from such a day job this very moment! Software quality assurance pays my ticket.... ) Not that I put myself in the same category with folks like Kilduff & Co., tho I admire them and hope to grow up to be just like them. Just making a thoughtful observation on this New Year's Eve.... :-) Cheers, Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:01:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! Message-ID: Hello all, Here I am at 0:01 on 1 January, 1999, sitting at my laptop to send a wish for all the best in this calendar year to my friends. Looks good from here; I hope that all of you see 1999 through in health, wealth and happiness. Now, all you sluggards still dragging about in 1998, get a move on. You should *see* some of the beautiful models in your futures ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:13:59 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! Message-ID: <000101be34c7$cf2d2090$f011820a@johng-home> To Shane: You are truly a man ahead of your time! Probably were a caring and sensitive man of the 90's all the way back in 1983! What I'd rather do is go back about 80 + years to see 'em in 1:1 scale! Maybe park a couple in the garage for future reference. Still wallowing in the past, - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 8:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! Hello all, Here I am at 0:01 on 1 January, 1999, sitting at my laptop to send a wish for all the best in this calendar year to my friends. Looks good from here; I hope that all of you see 1999 through in health, wealth and happiness. Now, all you sluggards still dragging about in 1998, get a move on. You should *see* some of the beautiful models in your futures ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:43:33 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Nieuport Nighthawk Message-ID: <000701be34cb$f1716ae0$10d690d0@Pvosburg> Just wanted to see if the list was still up... no traffic here since late Monday night. Or are we maintaining Internet silence for some reason? Anyway, as long as I'm on-list I was wondering, does the Nighthawk qualify as a WWI aeroplane? Has anyone ever made a 1:48 kit/vac/whatever? Pretty spiffy little bus, aside from the ABC Dragonfly. Happy New Year to all... Dave V. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:16 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: This is the future speaking - Happy New Year ! Message-ID: <368B9324.5A4A@conted.gatech.edu> A (somewhat early) Happy New Year to all from Atlanta, Gee Ayy! Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:57:16 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Images Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981231105716.0069a68c@pop.mindspring.com> I just posted a few scans of some model photos I took. The images are poor but give some idea of the models. I hope to get the photo quality problem resolved soon. http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/gallery.htm sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:48:12 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Images Message-ID: <7bfee81c.368bb8dc@aol.com> In a message dated 12/31/98 7:56:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << I just posted a few scans of some model photos I took. The images are poor but give some idea of the models. I hope to get the photo quality problem resolved soon. http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/gallery.htm sp >> Looking at your 1/72 RE-8, and work by others such the infamous Matt the B is why I don't really get into the scale wars! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: vonfear@yahoo.com (Ben Fletcher) Cc: wwi Subject: Re: Info Message-ID: <199812311937.OAA23762@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Greetings Allan, I was reading some info that you have posted on a > page about Max Immelmanns Fokker E.III. I am currently building a > radio controlled E.III and was thinking about painting it like > Immelmanns E.III. All I know that it was green and I have only seen a > photo of the aircraft he died in. I would be very gratefull if you > could send me some pictures or send me some info. Gren? IO wasn't aware of that, but Immelman did fly several E-IIIs, one with 3 guns! (Flew like a cow). I'll forward this message to the mailing list. I'm sure they can point you towards plenty of reference material. You may want to join the list if you're a modeler. Info is in the FAQ. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:42:02 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Images Message-ID: <19981231.134204.-845255.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:54:47 -0500 (EST) "Steven M. Perry" writes: >I just posted a few scans of some model photos I took. The images are >poor >but give some idea of the models. I hope to get the photo quality >problem >resolved soon. Cool. "Thanks DML." Great job! Can't wait to see you-know-what...;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:08:50 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Images Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981231130850.006fa460@mail> At 02:40 PM 31/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:54:47 -0500 (EST) "Steven M. Perry" > writes: > >>I just posted a few scans of some model photos I took. The images are >>poor >>but give some idea of the models. I hope to get the photo quality >>problem >>resolved soon. > >Cool. "Thanks DML." Great job! Can't wait to see >you-know-what...;-) By the way Matt, those are some awfully nice VVS models you did up on the VVS page. Dane > >Matt Bittner > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1357 **********************