WWI Digest 1339 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: How many: The unscientific analysis by "Sandy Adam" 2) RE: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules by Shane Weier 3) Re: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla by David & Carol Fletcher 4) Re: How many: The unscientific analysis by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 5) RE: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla by Shane Weier 6) Re:That's just not cricket !!! by "David R.L. Laws" 7) Re: How many: The unscientific analysis by "P. Howard" 8) Re: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Baby by "P. Howard" 9) Re: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Baby by Veronica Ugulano 10) RE: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith by Shane Weier 11) Re: How many: The unscientific analysis by Veronica Ugulano 12) Eduard Baby Comments (1/48th) by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" 13) Sopwith Triplane by "P. Howard" 14) Re: Eduard Baby Comments (1/48th) by "David R.L. Laws" 15) Re How Many -A bit late by BStett3770@aol.com 16) Re: Sopwith Triplane by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 17) The Silence Is Deafening by "Lee Mensinger" 18) New Images by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 19) ODP: Flight Sim(RB2), UnOfficialPatch3.0 released by Tomasz Gronczewski 20) Re: New Images by Bob Pearson 21) Re: Re How Many -A bit late by Mike Fletcher 22) Sniffer blows his nose, examines his hanky and finds...Windsocks:^) by Graham Nash 23) Re: New Images by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 24) Silly Season by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 25) Web page by "Steven M. Perry" 26) Re: Web page by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 27) Re: Web page by "Richard Eaton" 28) Re: Web page by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 29) Re: Re: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:47:13 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: How many: The unscientific analysis Message-ID: <199812152245.WAA24330@beryl.sol.co.uk> Well summed up Sir. Isn't it astonishing that the trends are so strong throughout our merry bunch, spanning as we do the Americas, Europe, Oz, the Pacific Rim. This is a truly international hobby! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:50:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules Message-ID: Steven comments: >> > I self imposed a rule of "one at a time" on the bench. The > results have been worth the exercise of self discipline. I tried this for a while to end my "completion black" but found it too restrictive. When (as is usually the case) I have a scratchbuild project on the bench, frequent interruptions occur while desperate attempts are made to find information I hadn't realised I'd need. So to fill these pauses, and to take a break from repeated failure to properly represent some feature, I start a kit, or occasionally two kits. During the Biffs 3 1/2 years I completed something like 8 other models, thereby saving my sanity and staying active. OTOH, unlike many of you, I rarely take parts off of sprue before I start to build a kit. Frankly, I don't care to find out whether they fit until I have the impetus to crash through *that* barrier, and fear that years of worrying about "that ill fitting kit" will ruin my dreams of a perfect outcome ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:54:30 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla Message-ID: <3676E8A6.7B59@mars.ark.com> This has been a most enlightening discussion. By my rough calculations, less than ten percent of this list build WWI exclusively - and the average WWI output is slightly better than one kit per year! Now I don't feel so bad about being a "shotgun modeller" and building whatever strikes my fancy - my survivors of many miliary moves run the gamut from D.H.2 to F-89 Scorpion (I can hear the howls of protest now) and even a Lunak glider... I even confess to having an [expletive deleted] in its G-6 version as flown by the RSI. Looking at my built and "pending" kits, I see that WWI has got a greater than fair share of representation, though, with 96 percent of the boxes being taken up by 'other eras' and 15 percent of the surviving, displayable models being WWI. The percentages should improve, too, as I am planning on disposing of most of my, ahem, third-generation jets - I like propellers, but they don't have to be made of wood or attached to rotary engines! Largely, I choose my subjects to build on the basis of attractive paint jobs and the lack of self-proclaimed experts (NEVER take an F-4 of a Messer... oops almost said it... to a contest - there is always somebody who knows the proper tire pressure or the number of screws holding the windshield in). The Lublin R.XIII or some such has a better chance of withstanding scrutiny - except in Warsaw, right Tom ;-)? P.C.10 is a definite minus score for the RFC when it comes to choosing what to build, so British aircraft generally have to have 'character' to overcome the dreadful paint schemes. >From my perspective, WWI aircraft are much more time-consuming to build and provide a greater challenge - so the level of satisfaction is high, but the output is dismally low. Is this why so many of us build something 'off topic' and younger modellers are discouraged? I find on-line discussion to be a stimulus for action, so thanks troops - but now I've added Nieuport and Albatros to my list of 'never enter in a contest' kits... Sorry, for the random thoughts! Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:15:30 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: How many: The unscientific analysis Message-ID: <19981215.171531.-848743.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:35:03 -0500 (EST) Shane Weier writes: >GDay all, ROTFL!! This was a great post. >Dennis wins the "List Larder of the Year" award for most kits in >stock, >but Matt wins the "Optimist of the Year" award given that at his >current >rate the kits in his stock will last him another 160 years. Of course >Gerry McOsker might dispute this because he won't admit how many kits >he >has, and at a rate of, um, nothing, *whatever* will take some time to >complete. Pssst...that number I sent...that was just WW1's...I didn't confess to the off topics...shhh... :-) >There *were* a couple of others who admitted to zero completions, but >one stood out for guts ! Cameron Rile has no WW1 models built or >unbuilt, so I suppose he's "List Critic" - he doesn't *do* it, just >talks about it ! (And why not - we are after all a very inteesting >bunch >!) Or he should be in Quality Assurance! I have found in my career that those who can't (or won't, whatever) always go into Quality Assurance, and tell the rest of us what/how to do. >On a personal note, I'm happy to see that more than 1/4 of the list >members finished less than I, and fully half finished no more - Hah ! >And my embarrasment regarding the size of my stash is somewhat >reduced >by the admissions of Dennis, Matt and Sandy. >In conclusion I must them wish you all good health - or we'll *never* >get finished Indeed! Gee, can I retire now? ;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:15:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla Message-ID: Dave, > This has been a most enlightening discussion. By my rough > calculations, less than ten percent of this list build WWI exclusively Well, I don't build WW1 exclusively, but the last post WW1 kit is 2 years ago, a brief Christmas dalliance which was preceded by two more exclusive years. All of us are allowed an occasional aberation. > F-89 Scorpion (I can hear the howls of protest now) Hooooowwwwwwwlllllllllll! > Looking at my built and "pending" kits, I see that WWI has > got a greater than fair share of representation, though, with 96 percent of > the boxes being taken up by 'other eras' Say what? FOUR miserable percent is "greater than fair"? Burn him, stone him ! > (NEVER > take an F-4 of a Messer... oops almost said it... to a contest - there > is always somebody who knows the proper tire pressure or the number of > screws holding the windshield in). I'd have thought is saner never to BUILD one ;-) > P.C.10 is a definite minus score for the RFC when it comes to > choosing what to build, so British aircraft generally have to have > 'character' to overcome the dreadful paint schemes. Ah, but PC.10 is *subtle*. I understand the attraction of the garish, but just like the distinction between 5 days of cricket per game, and a couple of hours of baseball per game, I expect the attraction will mostly be understood by the Brits and ex-members of their Empire. > > >From my perspective, WWI aircraft are much more > time-consuming to build > and provide a greater challenge - so the level of > satisfaction is high, > but the output is dismally low. Is this why so many of us build > something 'off topic' and younger modellers are discouraged? Perhaps. But it's also why I *buy* Tamiya, AccMin and hasegawa kits, fondle the sprues, sniff the styrene, then sell them unbuilt. Too little challenge. Mmmm. Am I starting to sound like all those early modellers i recall saying that there was no challenge in a *plastic* kit, and that we should all go back to wood solids. I *know* a couple of respected members of this list started back there, and it's a little un-nerving to discover I understand what they meant. > I find > on-line discussion to be a stimulus for action, so thanks troops - but > now I've added Nieuport and Albatros to my list of 'never enter in a > contest' kits... > If you like I can ruin Bristol Fighers for you as well....;-) > Sorry, for the random thoughts! > Hell, there's no reason to be sorry, this sort of "modelling philosophy" discussion is interesting and in this company it's likely to be fun as well Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:42:06 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:That's just not cricket !!! Message-ID: <3677806E.8BC@webtime.com.au> Gerry Many thanks again There's a rather nice Australian SE that will look fine in this kit ! As for the Old enemy - I think we need to keep a low profile on the issue of the Rules after that Book-making scandal broke !!! Interesting match performance with the black cloud hanging over those two naughty boys - That smug little turd Shane Warne really did himself some some serious personal damage out here over the said scandal ... We had young kids burning their Shane Warne memorablia the other day ... I think someone is going to to be making a very large quid trying to compel people who have endorsement contracts with Warne to keep their side of the agreement ... where Warne has so plainly broken his side ... How the mightly are fallen ... From icon to a---hole in the twinkling of an eye Hope Uncle Mick was a good boy ... or failing that, that you were equally wicked together ! All the best david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:46:32 -0600 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: How many: The unscientific analysis Message-ID: <001201be2885$26100ca0$27868ece@phoward> "Or he should be in Quality Assurance! I have found in my career that those who can't (or won't, whatever) always go into Quality Assurance, and tell the rest of us what/how to do." OOOOoooo Matt!, what you said... There are those of us among the group who are in Quality Assurance. Hopefully I won't be marked as a "Can't do"... As for the other end of the statement, wouldn't that be based on the precept that the people in the job were given a choice in accepting the position? Oh by the way, in most but certainly not all cases, I've found that people who have problems with QA, are in fact doing something that they feel won't meet the minimum standards... :-) Paul Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:01:18 -0600 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Baby Message-ID: <003f01be2887$361081a0$27868ece@phoward> But I thought that it was perfectly normal for planned builds to be changed on a daily basis. If not then, I'll have to tell all of the voices in my head to cease and decist, post haste! Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 3:12 PM Subject: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Baby >Dennis, > > >> >> I do wish you folks would stop mentioning a >> >> different kit every day, since my build list is now rotating so >fast >> >> reading the "next up" position is in danger of making me giddy. << >> >> I understand where you are at. I told you I wasn't >> going to build >> any more for this year but I may not have told you the truth. >> I placed and >> order for the AMC/Eduard Voisin yesterday. I have wanted that kit for >> decades. When it arrives, everything will stop. If it is of the same >> quality as their other kits, I will have it completed in about a week. >> > >Now *you* are doing it. I should explain that about 5 years ago I >decided to entirely drop 1/72 for WW1 subjects after years of building >WW1 *only* in 1/72. Since then Pegasus, and more recently Toko and now >Eduard/Flasback have me buying models I'd expected to be able to ignore. >Dammit, the Voisin has such *character*, and even OoB the new kit will >be an absolute eyecatcher. I may need another.... to build in my dotage. >(No smartarse comments everyone ;-) > >I'll pose a question to the list: > >Many of us use the "nu" (next up) addendum on our posts. It seems to me >that mine changes by the day, sometimes frequently *same* day. I also >see other list members setting out to build models never mentioned in >*their* "next up"s. So do any of you actually stick to the plan of the >moment, or should we change it to "tf" (todays fantasy)? ;-) > > >Shane >nu... Maybe the Voisin. Mmmmm > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:37:49 -0500 From: Veronica Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Baby Message-ID: <199812151938_MC2-63C4-1BD6@compuserve.com> Hi Shane, Bad news (for you).. I place an order with Aeroclub yesterday for the Voisin and it arrived today. How's that for international service? Didn't realize I had such clout did you? Actually, I have a standing order with Aeroclub that they automatically send me new releases and they were in the mail without I knowledge. BUT, OH MY, OH MY. THE VOISIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is beautiful. It is combination of plastic, metal and resin and it's beautiful (I said that already, didn't I?) Two sets of decals (French or Italian), exceptional instructions showing all of the delicious rigging and on and on and on. Why am I sitting here typing when I could be building? It has been a long time since I have seen a kit this nice. I told you I would have it built in a week. That is going to be a challenge. The engine cylinders are separate and the push rods are metal etch. Spoke front wheels and more. OH MY, OH MY Also in my package is the Flashback Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter. Same combination of plastic, metal and resin. Two sets of decals. Add the TOKO Hansa Brandenberg W-29 and the Sopwith Salamander and my package is complete and life is good, very, very good. The Voisin will be started tonight. I do not have a 1 1/2 Strutter so it will be next. I have a W-29 by Veeday (does that go back a long way?) but I need to update that kit. So the next three weeks of building is taken care. What I will do to finish off the year, I'm not sure (BEG) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:59:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: QUESTION: How fixed are your schedules WAS: Eduard Sopwith Message-ID: Dennis, > > Bad news (for you).. I place an order with Aeroclub > yesterday for the Voisin and it arrived today. How's that for > international service? Why is this bad news? Buy one, buy many! Encourage them to kit more of these early, ugly airplanes Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:56:36 -0500 From: Veronica Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: How many: The unscientific analysis Message-ID: <199812152157_MC2-63C1-38DF@compuserve.com> Hi Shane, Dennis wins the "List Larder of the Year" award for most kits in stock, Oh, wow! I won. I won! Is there an awards ceremony? Did I win a trip to somewhere? How about an engraved plaque? Lord knows I need something else on my shelf. But I not going to rest on my laurels. Just today 4 more kits joined the ranks of the unbuilt (although one is already under construction). >Dennis scared the life out of me when he admitted 81 completed models and 10 per year, but with 500 in his pile he's going to be busy for over 50 years (especially if he buys that Voisin !)< 82 as of yesterday with the competition of the Pegasus Breguet. Will try and add the Voisin before the end of the year. I did a quick inventory of my WW1 and it sits right now at 503. If I stop building for others I could cut my building time down to 45 years. And I didn't mention about 50 off-topic models. Thank you for the honor. I will do my best to live up to high standards the award carries. (Is he on something?) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:36:56 -0600 From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" To: "ww1list" Subject: Eduard Baby Comments (1/48th) Message-ID: <199812160431.WAA28555@mail.primary.net> Started on the Sopwith Baby this evening and found acouple of errors that need to be corrected per the GA drawings in the DataFile No. 60. The kit comes with the small Schneider tail unit and the one used on the Sopwith Baby with ailerons had one that was larger and not as curved in the front. I've modified the top rear fuselage to allow the new tail to fit. New tail was made from .030" Evergreen plastic sheet. The cockpit is not a true circular opening but straight on two sides. The opening and wing cutout on the top wing also don't match up with the GA drawings; the ends of the wings are curved and should be more of an angle and the cutout is too shallow and completely covers the cockpit when looking down on the aircraft. The vertical fin and rudder on the kit have alittle different outline than the GA, nothing a pass with a file and emery paper can't resolve. I hadn't built an early release Eduard kit for sometime and forgot about the 'fun' they were 're-engineering' the kit as you put them together. I don't think I'll have this one finished by December 31, 1998... Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:32:50 -0600 From: "P. Howard" To: "WWI Post" Subject: Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: <000301be28ad$256853c0$35868ece@phoward> I'm up to the painting stage on my Eduard Sopwith Tripe and I've been out of circulation for a while. Mr. Rimell put forward the likelihood that the Tripe would most probably be done in PC12. I'm trying to find out if there has been any new data forthcoming that either confirms or refutes this theory. Any words of wisdom? Paul H> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:02:23 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Baby Comments (1/48th) Message-ID: <3677CB80.1DE2@webtime.com.au> Charles, Don't forget the peculiar Sopwith bar just forward of the tail unit at the termination of the turtle back ! If you have Woodman's article on correcting the Pup this feature is dealt with in some detail - Also the Aeroclub vac of the Pup picks up this detail very nicely david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:40:34 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re How Many -A bit late Message-ID: <25da380d.367739c2@aol.com> Hi Gang Been real busy, but I'll get in on this Finished this year - 12 ( not bad one per month, one of my best years production) Purchased - 18 ( see still got more then I built) the to do pile 400+ finished collection to date (25 + years) 106 ( I'll have to live to 300) The 400 + plus are my own kits not the shops :-) As for the nb- no plans just finish one , then pull one off the mound. Look at it a day or two, then change my mine 3 or 4 times. and start what ever. I'll never finish my collection, but who cares. Some guys collect stamps, some collect beer cans, some just empty them :-) Keep Modeling & Happy Holidays Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:00:42 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: <3677E73A.197B@ricochet.net> P. Howard wrote: > > I'm up to the painting stage on my Eduard Sopwith Tripe and I've been out of > circulation for a while. Mr. Rimell put forward the likelihood that the > Tripe would most probably be done in PC12. Which one(s)? The impression given by the datafile is that at least some Tripes were PC12 as it was printed on some plans, and PC12 might have provided better camo over the muddy battlefields of France than PC10, etc. They were probably finished in whatever stocks (PC10 or 12) which were on hand at the time of completion of each aircraft. Some are traditionally represented in PC10, such as Colly's Black Flight, while at least one is supposed to have been PC12, such as No. 2 Wing's N5431 which served in the Aegean... FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:12:22 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: The Silence Is Deafening Message-ID: <36774135.620FE900@wireweb.net> This is the quietest I have ever seen the Internet. I have almost decided to work on the Siemens-Schukert D III tonight. Is every one out there operating on a Christmas schedule or is my computer broken. My last message was at 1421 and nothing from the group at all for thye entire day. Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:50:44 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New Images Message-ID: <19981215.215722.-829701.1.mbittner@juno.com> Pedro sent me images of his latest models. A Revell Fokker Dr.I and a Toko Sopwith Snipe, both extremely well done. I have put the Snipe in both the WW1 area, as well as Between the Wars. Go to: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html The Dr.I is under Germany, and the Snipe under Imperial Russia. Enjoy, and thanks to Pedro for some well done models! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:12:06 +-100 From: Tomasz Gronczewski To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: ODP: Flight Sim(RB2), UnOfficialPatch3.0 released Message-ID: <01BE28CB.C5FFCB60@loopback> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE28CB.C608F320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No offense, but I think you are absolutely wrong. Not only is the 3D well executed, but with EVERYTHING going to 3D these days, that type of card is no longer a luxery. Red Baron runs better in GLIDE and really comes into its own in that genre. Getting a high end PC with the #D 12MB graphics card is like getting a car without a motor. Oh after all you have 12MB 3DFX2. I have still my ancient 4MB Diamond = Monster I. May be this is the reason of my lack of comfort. RB2 has a = LOT of textures, hasn't it? BTW what is the newest version of official = Sierra RB2 3D patch? 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I should have taken you up on doing it for IM :-) Matt, teh russian page isn't working . .. I had to go to the ';tween the wars apge to see the Snipe. Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: New Images > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:23:29 -0500 (EST) > > Pedro sent me images of his latest models. A Revell Fokker Dr.I and a > Toko Sopwith Snipe, both extremely well done. I have put the Snipe in > both the WW1 area, as well as Between the Wars. Go to: > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html > > The Dr.I is under Germany, and the Snipe under Imperial Russia. Enjoy, > and thanks to Pedro for some well done models! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:50:13 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re How Many -A bit late Message-ID: <36777445.9A3BD7B7@mars.ark.com> Finished? last finished model was built during the gulf war - I built a Pup in 2 weeks and a Fokker Dr1 + a funny tracked thing Still haven't finished the Morane Saulner started at the same time - the fuselage collapsed under the weight of the putty. Current is a Nieuport IV.G (brick red so far), an SE.5a that lost its top wing as soon as I had found a scheme for it, a Nieuport 28 that I vacuformed a new cowling, built a new engine, filled in the fabric and is awaiting custom decals (its a Civilian courier aircraft operated by Nieuport's own airline), A SPAD SA.2 whose nacelle was giving me problems (this was converted from an Airfix SPAD VII with Roland wings and lots of plasticard. And to think I got into ww1 because those antennas were getting to be too much of a pain in 1/144... Bought this year? 5 (Gorbachev Nieuport IV.G, Toko Nie.11, 2 Nieuport 622's and a Dewoitine 510) I ordered 2 Gorbachev Nieuport IV.G but Hannants only sent one - I guess they figured no-one would want more than 1. A now ex-girlfriend figured it was the 'bondo-airplane' it has so much filler - It just needs wing ribs and a new tail now. I am partial to vacuforming the tops of the wings and using the pen method to raise the ribs subtly, and scribing the bottoms but haven't decided yet. Stocks = 40 on topic plus boxes and boxes of off-topic stuff to turn into spare parts (no ww2 German or modern US though) Mike Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:50:21 +0000 From: Graham Nash To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Sniffer blows his nose, examines his hanky and finds...Windsocks:^) Message-ID: <199812160850.DAA05142@egate2.citicorp.com> Oops nearly forgot, but my trip to the Aviation Bookshop revealed a number of earlish back issues of Windsock, vols, 5 and 6, some 9's etc. I didn't get the prices, but you're probably looking at GBP5 or so per issue. If interested I can check up on specific wants. Phone number as before. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 05:16:51 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Images Message-ID: <19981216.053437.-844067.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:13:41 -0500 (EST) Bob Pearson writes: >Great work on the Dr.I and Snipe .. ... I should have taken you up on >doing >it for IM :-) Indeed! >Matt, teh russian page isn't working . .. I had to go to the ';tween >the >wars apge to see the Snipe. I think I have fixed it. Thanks to you and Chris for the catch. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:45:51 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Silly Season Message-ID: <3678D2CF.B4EDB9D8@tac.com.au> Hi Everybody, Happy pills are on overdrive at the moment so here's a Christmas carol for modellers (To the tune of Winter Wonderland) Everyone's enthusiatic 'Bout your fetish for plastic And kits are so cheap They're piled 3 deep Shopping in a model wonderland All the kits fit together You can build in any weather Your fingers don't slip The tweezers will grip Working in a model wonderland On the workbench is the latest model At no time were you really stuck Construction proved to be quite a doddle* And you didn't even say F***!! As you add all the detail In real or in Braille scale You're having fun Another's begun Working in a model wonderland Translation:Doddle* = easy Feeling Frivolous (Frisky's cousin) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:46:11 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Web page Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981216124611.009744ac@pop.mindspring.com> My ISP has decided my monthly charge now rates 5meg of web space. In an attempt to learn a bit of HTML, I put the build notes of my Smer DH-2 up. Please bear in mind that this is my first attempt. The photo isn't too good, but it's the only one I have. http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm sp (Who does not wear shorts and avoids being photographed like the Plague) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:06:47 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web page Message-ID: Steve, Looks like a good start to me. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:07:05 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web page Message-ID: <367804D9.1AAF0DCB@dsccc.com> Good start Steve! Nice looking model and great info on the build. One warning though.....the old website upkeep time can grow on you pretty quick. Thanks for sharing. Regards, Richard http://www.onr.com/user/eatons Steven M. Perry wrote: > > My ISP has decided my monthly charge now rates 5meg of web space. In an > attempt to learn a bit of HTML, I put the build notes of my Smer DH-2 up. > Please bear in mind that this is my first attempt. The photo isn't too > good, but it's the only one I have. > > http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > > sp > (Who does not wear shorts and avoids being photographed like the Plague) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:11:19 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web page Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981216121119.0070e0dc@mail> At 12:49 PM 16/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >My ISP has decided my monthly charge now rates 5meg of web space. In an >attempt to learn a bit of HTML, I put the build notes of my Smer DH-2 up. >Please bear in mind that this is my first attempt. The photo isn't too >good, but it's the only one I have. > >http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > >sp >(Who does not wear shorts and avoids being photographed like the Plague) > Congratulations, and not just on the model. I can't tell you how reassuring it is to see a neophyte HTMLer's page devoid of blinking text, dancing logos, and coloured text on black. Good page. Great model. I've tagged if for reference for when I get around to my own DH-2. Dane p.s. I hope that model won something in whatever contest it was entered. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:34:31 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: How many... was Re: Welcome from Fla Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981216123431.0070e0dc@mail> Well, I haven't *finished* a model in quite some time, but then 1998 was quite a year in the Anderson household, and it included, just 3 weeks ago, moving into our first house (brand-spanking new, and with a pre-drilled vent waiting for my to-be-built spray booth). Anyway, I have already set up my new work area, and I have decided one way of avoiding some of the problems we face is to keep all, or at least the bulk, of my unbuilt kit collection in the very boxes I packed them in for the move. Before, the bulk of my collection was stored, or rather displayed, on a number of cheap metal utility shelves, which were situated around the modelling desk. Now, the problem is obvious, and one many of you doubtless share. There you are, working on a kit you've be dying to work on for months. But you hit a snag (I mean, when do you not hit a snag, even a small one, when building a model? If you don't, you don't mind if the rest of us kill you, on the basis that this flawed world cannot abide such perfection?), you come up with some work-arounds, they don't work, you become intensely frustrated, and before you know it, there you are rifling through the box of another model you've been dying to work on for months. So the old project gets shovelled away ("just for a few days"), and you start on the next one, and the cycle begins again. But by keeping them in boxes, they are out of sight and therefore out of mind. I have no trouble knowing where anything is, because before I moved, as I was packing, I noted which models went into which boxes, each of which was clearly identified. So if I do want to get out a specific model, it takes but a few moments search (I have a copy of a document listing each box's contents inside the box, and an electronic copy on the computer). But there is nothing out there, in view, to distract me from the project right at hand. The models also remain largely packed for the next move; packing stinks! I'll see in about 6 months what effect this has on my productivity. Dane p.s. The last time I did finish models, I had to. One, a Spitfire Mk V, was an office present for an outgoing Dean at Graduate Studies, U of C (David Bercusson, whom some of the Canadians on this list *may* have seen on TV last month on History Television's show on the Battle of the Atlantic), and the other, another Spit, was a Xmas present for Dad, so in both cases there was a strict deadline, and in the former case the office workers were giving the fellow no other gift but my model, which made its successful completion very urgent. Maybe it's like work; I doubt I'd finishing writing many user manuals and technical documentation if I didn't have to. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1339 **********************