WWI Digest 1317 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New to the group - "Smudge" by Zulis@aol.com 2) Re: 1999 Calendar by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 3) Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive by The Shannons 4) Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive by Kevin Wenker 5) Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 6) Re: New Member by r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) 7) Re: Hello from a new member of this list by r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) 8) New Members! by "Sharon Henderson" 9) Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive by Ernest Thomas 10) Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 11) Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? by Mike Dicianna 12) Re: Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 13) OTF For sale by Bob Pearson 14) RE: New to the group by Shane Weier 15) RE: New (to me) technique for cutting rib tapes by Shane Weier 16) RE: Hello from a new member of this list by Shane Weier 17) RE: Most "successful" German aircraft by Shane Weier 18) RE: Names by Shane Weier 19) Re: Most "successful" German aircraft by "Sandy Adam" 20) Re: Hello from a new member of this list by "David R.L. Laws" 21) Re: Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 22) Re: 1999 Calendar by Alberto Rada 23) More on Toko Pfalz DXII by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 24) RE: 1999 Calendar by "John C Glaser" 25) Re: New to the group by SmudgeRIO@aol.com 26) Re: Hello from a new member of this list by michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) 27) New Members by Alberto Rada 28) Re: New Members by Bob Pearson 29) Re: New Members by "David Vosburgh" 30) Re: Hello from a new member of this list by KarrArt@aol.com 31) Re: Hello from a new member of this list by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Luke's SPAD markings by "Jim Wallace" 33) Re: More on Toko Pfalz DXII by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:56:12 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New to the group - "Smudge" Message-ID: <9d48c8c6.365f2e0c@aol.com> In a message dated 11/27/98 9:10:09AM, "Smudge" wrote: << Rigging methods. Please share your opinions >> Hi, and welcome! If there is not enough rigging information in the FAQ, you might want to check out the archives. There is an enormous amount of detailed information in there about how each and every modeller peforms this "black art". I collected about 1/3 of the rigging tips from the archive into a word processing file - if you would like I can forward a copy to you (file is in WordPerfect 6.1 format). Regards, Dave Zulis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:26:53 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1999 Calendar Message-ID: <19981127.182713.-155679.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:13:49 -0500 (EST) Mike Fletcher writes: > I found this great program called Panorama 32 that displays >each chosen >image from a list, to the desktop for a definable length of time - >and >it isn't limited to bmp (which can be quite large at 1024x768 >resolution) URL? Free- oder share-ware? Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:53:30 -0600 From: The Shannons To: WWI Subject: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive Message-ID: <365F3B7A.7FDDC68F@ix.netcom.com> I remember that there was a discussion on the plywood axle-wing on late model Fokkers. I was wondering if someone could re-enlighten me on the finish these got on lozenged machines -- were they covered with lozenge fabric doped onto the wood, painted to match lozenge, streaked, solid Fokker Green (whatever that is)? Also, seeing the latest 'Over the Front' is causing an itch in the old wallet reaching hand. I seem to remember that there was a company offering replacement panels for the DML D-VII to give the multi-vent style OEF looks (and for the earlier various styles) Does someone have the info that can save me some search time? Stark's D.VII just looks too interesting a finish to pass up a chance. Too bad the FSM article once again promulgated the mistaken identification of the Blue/White -- Black Trident markings (Raesch, actually, if memory serves.) .Mark. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:14:14 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive Message-ID: <365F4056.43D4E998@interaccess.com> Mark, Atlee made a new nose and side panels out of resin. I do not know if any are still around. I got a set and wish I had got 2 or 3. I am doing - what else - the 7 Swabians. Eduard also made a set of new panels in photoetch. Not as good as the Atlee, but definitely doable. Kevin W The Shannons wrote: > I remember that there was a discussion on the plywood axle-wing on late > model Fokkers. I was wondering if someone could re-enlighten me on the > finish these got on lozenged machines -- were they covered with lozenge > fabric doped onto the wood, painted to match lozenge, streaked, solid > Fokker Green (whatever that is)? > > Also, seeing the latest 'Over the Front' is causing an itch in the old > wallet reaching hand. I seem to remember that there was a company > offering replacement panels for the DML D-VII to give the multi-vent > style OEF looks (and for the earlier various styles) Does someone have > the info that can save me some search time? > > Stark's D.VII just looks too interesting a finish to pass up a chance. > Too bad the FSM article once again promulgated the mistaken > identification of the Blue/White -- Black Trident markings (Raesch, > actually, if memory serves.) > > .Mark. > -- > This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon > at Shingend@ix.netcom.com > > History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:12:20 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive Message-ID: <19981127.201234.-255255.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:50:15 -0500 (EST) The Shannons writes: >Also, seeing the latest 'Over the Front' is causing an itch in the >old >wallet reaching hand. I seem to remember that there was a company >offering replacement panels for the DML D-VII to give the multi-vent >style OEF looks (and for the earlier various styles) Does someone >have >the info that can save me some search time? As Kevin said it was Atlee, now out of business. However, with Rosemont re-releasing some of the Atlee range, maybe they can do the D.VII panels as well? Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:18:38 EST From: r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <19981127.181857.14415.4.r_niles@juno.com> Carl Greetings and welcome. You too are one of the annointed ones, that build in the only true scale. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missles...switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:18:38 EST From: r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: <19981127.181857.14415.3.r_niles@juno.com> On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:36:00 -0500 (EST) Philippe Spriesterbach writes: >Hello, >I'm glad to take part to the most friendly mailing list on Internet. >I'm a member of IPMS Belgium (I'm currently the IPMS Brussels >secretary) >and I'm interested in 1/72 scale aircrafts and 1/72-1/76 military >vehicles >(all eras for this one). >I hope to be able to help some members if I can. >Regards. > >-- >Philippe Spriesterbach >The Mad Scratchbuilder >IPMS Belgium member #F150 > > Greeting from Sacramento California, and welcome to the list. Do you know Diedier Waelkens? Forgive the spelling. He spent several months here while in Navigator training at Mather Air Force Base many years ago, and was and still is a member of our local IPMS group. Tell him all of the guys from IPMS Silverwings say howdy. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missles...switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:15:48 -0500 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New Members! Message-ID: <9811272215.AA48338@ft.sumter> Wow, I'm not the new kid on the block any more! :-) Welcome, y'all; this is such a nice group of helpful folks, I'm sure you'll have a grand time! Sharon, Trying to overcome server problems and Turkey Overload in Fairfax, Virginia! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:10:15 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive Message-ID: <365F6997.60CC@bellsouth.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > As Kevin said it was Atlee, now out of business. However, with Rosemont > re-releasing some of the Atlee range, maybe they can do the D.VII panels > as well? > I too am looking hard at the profiles of Stark's D-VII and feeling that I should build one like it. Something about that purple empennage outlined in black really appeals to me. And while I'm happy to have a pair of the Altee panels, I may end up doing it with the big Revell kit. So this may be a good time to revisit louvre making techniques. I'm pretty sure we have some new listee's since the last time this came up. Perhaps we might get some fresh ideas. While I haven't tried it in practice yet, I was thinking about using (for 1/48 scale) .030sq, or maybe .025sq styrene strip cut to legnth, glued to the panel, then shaped with a Flexifile. I'm sure this is just a variation on a stretched sprue approach mentioned previously, but I figure using the square strip will give a better hard edge to represent the louvre opening. Anyone else? E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Fodder -- too stupid to find in archive Message-ID: <199811280443.UAA22019@ednet1.orednet.org> Mark writes: >I remember that there was a discussion on the plywood axle-wing on late >model Fokkers. I was wondering if someone could re-enlighten me on the >finish these got on lozenged machines -- were they covered with lozenge >fabric doped onto the wood, painted to match lozenge, streaked, solid >Fokker Green (whatever that is)? The concensus would seem to be that they were painted dark olive green in a color very similar to, if not indentical with, the dark olive used for the metal panels around the engine. Grosz indicates that the metal panels on the OAW-built machines was partially over-painted with "lozenges" of light gray and/or lilac over the dark olive and that the axle fairing "wing" often received similar treatment. The photograph evidence I can locate for this is scant (although there are SOME photos seeming to show this arrangement) but Peter Grosz is not often wrong on this sort of thing. Of course, the idea of "standardized" color schemes pretty much went out the window once the aircraft reached their units and repainting of the axle fairing wing, as a part of either unit or individual markings, was probably as much the norm as the exception. >Stark's D.VII just looks too interesting a finish to pass up a chance. >Too bad the FSM article once again promulgated the mistaken >identification of the Blue/White -- Black Trident markings (Raesch, >actually, if memory serves.) Sounds like the Jasta 43 machine generally attributed to Josef Raesch to me. Alas, I'm -still- waiting for my OTF so I've no picture to check. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:44:12 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981127214412.0067fbdc@dnc.net> Maybe I'm looking at the wrong website but I cannot find a link to the article from the Georgia Chapter through the OTF (Over the Front?) site. A thread about the painting of purple on the nose of a Toko Pfalz DXII is what brought it about.... Could somebody post a URL hotlink to this info.....please/thankyou Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? Message-ID: <199811280607.WAA18179@ednet1.orednet.org> > >Maybe I'm looking at the wrong website but I cannot find a link to the >article from the Georgia Chapter through the OTF (Over the Front?) site. >A thread about the painting of purple on the nose of a Toko Pfalz DXII is >what brought it about.... I don't think it is posted on the web any place. The League of WW1 Aviation Historians wants you to join their organization (and pay their dues) to get OTF and the information it contains. Many fewer folks would join if the OTF articles could be just picked off the net for free. [Although a password accessible electronic edition of OTF for members would be nice - I'm still waiting to receive my hard copy of the latest issue so I can see what all the discussion is about. :-( ] Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:30:45 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: OTF For sale Message-ID: <08304595200577@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, Found this on RMS, posted 27 November. Bob ------------ I have the following Over The Front issues for sale: Vol 4, No 2 Summer 1989 Vol 5, No 1-4 Vol 7, No 1-4 Price is $10 USD ea, shipping extra. Please respond to me via e-mail, if you're interested. Thanks in advance, A.J. CArrington < ajcarrin@dsuper.net > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:43:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New to the group Message-ID: Smudge, > I've been modeling now for close to 30 years and am finally > venturing into WW 1 aircraft. My first will be the Glenco Pfaltz D3. > Sentimental favorite of mine. > Since I've been absent a while I'm sure the other have beaten me to the answer to your questions, but I'd like to welcome you to the list. Seems my subscription instructions worked, and we don't look too fearsome... Hope you enjoy us, and I'm sure the subject can captivate you Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:53:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New (to me) technique for cutting rib tapes Message-ID: Charlie, > A friend and > co-worker, who only models WWII and jets (and does beautiful > work) looked > at the two wings with the all the lozenge/rib tapes and the > black and white > checked fuselage (Hippert's a/c) and could only comment > "..you WWI guys are > completely nuts..." > If there was no other reward, this would be enough. Oh to be considered a lunatic in such good company Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:59:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: Dave, > I am glad to hear from you, and expect it is only a matter of > time until > someone else is nominated as the "Even Madder > Scratchbuilder..." Believe me > ... on this list, some candidates exist! :-) > Yeah, Robert the Venerable resembles that remark. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:10:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Most "successful" German aircraft Message-ID: > Without wishing to offend the sensibilities of those who like > such things, I personally don't care if a P-47 model is tartan with > skyblue-pink polka dots. > Sandy > Sounds like a worms eye view of Sandy Adams, without the hairy knees Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:17:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Names Message-ID: Chris, > > > Hawker Hector > > > > ...not into Mythology then? Hector was one of them there > genuine Greek > > (?) heroes, a perfectly sensible name for a fighting machine. > > > Actually, Hector wasn't a Greek hero, but rather a Trojan > hero. Okay, you caught me out. Blame it on posting at 1am. I have read The Iliad, and *should* have recalled which side the key protagonists were on - in my defence I should note that the Hawker Hector is a luvverly biplane, and even if off topic, undeserving of the casting of aspersions ! ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:34:29 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Most "successful" German aircraft Message-ID: <199811281032.KAA08856@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Sounds like a worms eye view of Sandy Adams, without the hairy knees Who he? Sandy Adam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:26:36 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: <365D3AEB.60C1@webtime.com.au> If anyone wants to feel REALLY clumsy on the subject of automotive models try Gerald Wingrove's book - This fellow is a consumate artist david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:35:18 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz DXII Article linked thru OTF? Message-ID: <365fdfa1.11708010@legend.firstsaga.com> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:06:48 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > > >> >>Maybe I'm looking at the wrong website but I cannot find a link to the >>article from the Georgia Chapter through the OTF (Over the Front?) site. >>A thread about the painting of purple on the nose of a Toko Pfalz DXII is >>what brought it about.... > Oops....for some reason (aging brain cells ?) I thought the link was through the OTF site..you are correct it is not but, you can find it here http://www.mindspring.com/~jmw3/home.html Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:27:51 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1999 Calendar Message-ID: <365FFA57.49D0E4E8@argonaut.net> I use it too and its great, you can use it as wallpaper or as screen saver and you can very easily change the images you want to use, so when I am on a model I put a lot of photos and profiles on it on the subject and it makes life easier for references 1 peseta SALUDOS Alberto Mike Fletcher wrote: > I found this great program called Panorama 32 that displays each chosen > image from a list, to the desktop for a definable length of time - and > it isn't limited to bmp (which can be quite large at 1024x768 > resolution) > > -- > Mike Fletcher ___ ., > mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; > mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" > icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:52:25 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: More on Toko Pfalz DXII Message-ID: Hello List, I'm posting this for Len, because I know he's working on the kit too... Len, there's a good Pfalz D.XII propeller in the blob of plastic supplied with the kit (worst piece in the whole kit IMHO). I carved mine last night and used the datafile as a guide for what it should look like. Although many Pfalz D.XIIs used the squarish Axial propeller (a la Fok Dr.I), I thinned and carved mine in the more graceful curve of the GAs - there is photo evidence of this type, though I don't know the manufacturer. HTH, Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:07:58 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: 1999 Calendar Message-ID: <000001be1ad8$80d42f00$f011820a@johng-home> For those who asked how to find this software try Zdnet's software library at http://www.zdnet.com/swlib/hot/newfree.html or do a search on +"Panorama 32" on the Links2Go search engine at http://www.links2go.com BTW Links2Go is a remarkably good search engine that is linked to the WW1 web page. Try some of the searches on WW1. - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Alberto Rada Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 7:32 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1999 Calendar I use it too and its great, you can use it as wallpaper or as screen saver and you can very easily change the images you want to use, so when I am on a model I put a lot of photos and profiles on it on the subject and it makes life easier for references 1 peseta SALUDOS Alberto Mike Fletcher wrote: > I found this great program called Panorama 32 that displays each chosen > image from a list, to the desktop for a definable length of time - and > it isn't limited to bmp (which can be quite large at 1024x768 > resolution) > > -- > Mike Fletcher ___ ., > mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; > mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" > icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:57:54 EST From: SmudgeRIO@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New to the group Message-ID: Who carries Windsock magazine. Don't recall ever seeing it. thanks, Smudge ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:08:42 GMT From: michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: <36601605.25140855@relay.ping.be> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:03:32 -0500 (EST), "K. Hagerup" wrote: --- snip --- >I'm also building one of Toko's Nieuport 11's as a E. Thiffry's aircraft >of Belgium's 5th Escadrille. Blue Rider's instruction sheet call for >aluminum dope, but it seems to me thar clear doped linen might be more >likely. Any thoughts? That aircraft is alu doped. There was a schema in KIT (IPMS Belgium magazine) in 1975. If you're interested, I can scan it and it to you. I'll do my best with the scanning as the original is of so-so quality. Regards. -- Michel Lefort - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium IPMS Belgium Treasurer & Foreign Liaison Officer (member F012) MAFVA member #6708 http://www.ping.be/ipms-belgium Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:05:46 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New Members Message-ID: <36602D69.3175A6E2@argonaut.net> Hi all you Newies Why that grin in your faces , Hum, you think this is a ride in the park ? Well it isn't , there is a war going on, you know ? What 10 hours after first solo flight ? and you think you can fly ? Well, we'll have to do with the bunch of you, take a good night rest and be ready at 5 am , you'll have your first party in the air, we are all going up, intelligence report places that ferocious, bloodthirsty, hart less Hunn Carlos Valdes, better known as the Red Baron, just in front of us. By the way your wing leader will be Sandy Adams, known as the The Bloodthirsty Scott, stick to him like glue, and be careful with those bloody Camels. SALUDOS Alberto pd.. Any thing you need from sunny South America, just ask ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:15:30 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: New Members Message-ID: <17153086500918@KAIEN.COM> Alberto kindly offeres . .. > pd.. Any thing you need from sunny South America, just ask How about the sun? The left coast of NA is a wee bit chilly right now Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:46:52 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: New Members Message-ID: <003401be1af7$159fefc0$18d690d0@Pvosburg> Si, Alberto, and don't forget that we're all coming down to visit as soon as it starts snowing hard up here. It isn't too warm here on the Right Coast either. Besides, I want to see the waterfall & all those pretty women you were talking about a while back! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 12:34 PM Subject: Re: New Members >Alberto kindly offeres . .. > >> pd.. Any thing you need from sunny South America, just ask > >How about the sun? The left coast of NA is a wee bit chilly right now > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:18:26 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: <37e25724.36604c82@aol.com> In a message dated 11/28/98 1:57:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Yeah, Robert the Venerable resembles that remark. Shane >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:25:46 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello from a new member of this list Message-ID: <46c85764.36604e3a@aol.com> In a message dated 11/28/98 1:57:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << "Even Madder > Scratchbuilder..." Believe me > ... on this list, some candidates exist! :-) > Yeah, Robert the Venerable resembles that remark. Shane >> High praise from indeed from the inShane one! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:24:22 -0500 From: "Jim Wallace" To: "Wwi" Subject: Luke's SPAD markings Message-ID: <000101be1b15$7746bba0$0104a8c0@sopwith.joat.com> I've found conflicting references on what Luke's SPAD XIII markings were. Is the painting on the Datafile cover *the* correct version. Others don't show the number or checkerboard on the underside. Others show a very different eagle (ala the Profile). I have the PD decals with their misinterpreted checkerboard. They say the number and 'checkerboard' would also be on the top of the top wing. TIA, jmw ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:47:36 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More on Toko Pfalz DXII Message-ID: <36617cfd.23625896@legend.firstsaga.com> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:46:33 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Hello List, > >I'm posting this for Len, because I know he's working on the kit too... > >Len, there's a good Pfalz D.XII propeller in the blob of plastic supplied >with the kit (worst piece in the whole kit IMHO). I carved mine last night >and used the datafile as a guide for what it should look like. Although >many Pfalz D.XIIs used the squarish Axial propeller (a la Fok Dr.I), I >thinned and carved mine in the more graceful curve of the GAs - there is >photo evidence of this type, though I don't know the manufacturer. > Thanks Kevin, I may have to give this a try. The propeller in the kit does leave a lot to be desired. I would agree also that it is the worst piece in the kit. Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1317 **********************