WWI Digest 1301 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: GLENCOE by Suvoroff@aol.com 2) RE: Copper State Models by "John Glaser" 3) RE: Copper State Models by Shane Weier 4) life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: Comparing the Pegasus and Flashback Sopwith LCT's by "K. Hagerup" 6) RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by Shane Weier 7) Re: Copper State Models by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by "David Vosburgh" 9) Re: Americal Nachtbombengeschwader Camo II ( Zeppelin Staaken by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 10) AIM (was Contrail) zeppelin staaken by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 11) Rigging Wires (Again) by David & Carol Fletcher 12) Exhaust Material on the SE5a by "cameron rile" 13) Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by KarrArt@aol.com 14) RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by Shane Weier 15) RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by Shane Weier 16) RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 17) Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by Mick Fauchon 18) Americal decals available, cheap by Modelhound@aol.com 19) 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 available by Modelhound@aol.com 20) Re: GLENCOE by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 21) Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by KarrArt@aol.com 22) Question about Copper State Models by David Kinnear 23) Re: Bristol F2b or FE2b That is the question by REwing@aol.com 24) Re: Rigging Wires (Again) by REwing@aol.com 25) Publication Question by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 26) Re: Publication Question by Bob Pearson 27) Re: GLENCOE by "Sandy Adam" 28) Re: GLENCOE by "Sandy Adam" 29) Re: Copper State Models by "Sandy Adam" 30) Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE by "Sandy Adam" 31) Off-topic by "Sandy Adam" 32) Re: Publication Question by "Sandy Adam" 33) Re: 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 available by Mike Dicianna 34) Re: Copper State Models by Carlos Valdes 35) Re: Copper State Models by "Sandy Adam" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:49:16 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: GLENCOE Message-ID: "Anyone willing to risk a short potted critique on the following Glencoe offerings: Alb D III" Nothing fits. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:00:34 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Copper State Models Message-ID: <000301be1360$654a0310$0c404a0c@jg_notebook> Excellent news! Now let's all buy some to help keep this worthy vendor afloat. Soapbox off. - Mr. G. > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Martin Ryan > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Copper State Models > > > For those members of the list that are interested in 1/48th scale, > Copper State will be releasing their H-B W12 around the end of this > month/beginning of December; an SE 5 and Sopwith Snipe around the end of > December/beginning of January. Eric also said that after the SE 5 and > Snipe would be a Sopwith Dolphin. He also started a line of some 1/28th > scale decals. The first one up is Jacobs devilheaded Dr.I and I know > he has Voss's F.I on the drawing board along with Rickenbacker's Spad > XIII. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:17:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Copper State Models Message-ID: John, > Excellent news! > > Now let's all buy some to help keep this worthy vendor afloat. > > Soapbox off. > I've done my share. Have the Dornier D.I and Fokker D.V, both of which are nice kits. Only a little more work to build than a styrene kit, not too many pinholes, plenty of well produced decals and etched parts (USEFULL parts like gun jackets and instrument bezels which actually work in nickel/brass) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:00:54 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: <259b7500.36537bd6@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/98 5:45:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Shane (Who would be assiduously building a KIT if this house moving business hadn't suddenly turned into a major disaster. Modelling, whats that?) >> winter up here, our ancient and not so venerable heater died. the way to dead heater leads to work room. two days to install new heater. no access to work room. me not happy until today. me now warm and able to work on models. me commisserate with one whose has had rude interuptions to modeling life. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:26:17 -0600 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Comparing the Pegasus and Flashback Sopwith LCT's Message-ID: <365365A9.5CCE@prodigy.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > So, anybody want me to compare the Flashback with the Merlin? :-) I don't have a Pegasus 1 1/2 Strutter, but I do have the two Flashback ones and a couple of Merlins and am struck by how similar the plastic parts are in each kit. While the Flashback parts are clearly from a different mold, it looks to me as if either the Merlin kit was used as a starting point, or the Flashback kit and the Merlin both used the same resin kit as a master. One example: examine the engraved indication of the fuselage location on the underside of the horizontal stabilizer--both kits display the identical assymetry. The shapes of all the major components are also identical. Actually, I regard this as good news. No need to pitch the Merlins into the same pile as my Airfix Yak-9s, SBDs and Albatros D.Vs--kits whose utility has been surpassed by later kits such as from ICM, Hasegawa and Pegausus. The extra parts from the Flashback kits and some plastic strip can go a long way to improving the Merlin. Now, to see what the Toko kit looks like... Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:41:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: Robert > winter up here, our ancient and not so venerable heater > died. the way to dead > heater leads to work room. two days to install new heater. no > access to work > room. me not happy until today. me now warm and able to work > on models. me > commisserate with one whose has had rude interuptions to > modeling life. > RK > Real life, the curse of the modelling man (or woman). Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:40:25 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Copper State Models Message-ID: <82fe7445.36538519@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/98 6:25:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Fokker D.V, both of which are nice kits. Only a little more work to build than a styrene kit, not too many pinholes, plenty of well produced decals and etched parts (USEFULL parts like gun jackets and instrument bezels which actually work in nickel/brass) Shane >> Hmmm.....not to jump the gun or anything and let's just keep this to ourselves until the new Internet Modeler appears, but I'm reviewing the D V . My kit had no etched gun jacket, just a solid one piece casting for the gun. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:25:39 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: <003701be136c$4921cc20$0ad690d0@Pvosburg> Robert: Call those guys back immediately, and have them check the ventilation on the new heater. I think it's backing up; the fumes seem to have affected the speech centers of your brain. You're starting to sound like Alley Oop. DV -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 9:28 PM Subject: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE >winter up here, our ancient and not so venerable heater died. the way to dead >heater leads to work room. two days to install new heater. no access to work >room. me not happy until today. me now warm and able to work on models. me >commisserate with one whose has had rude interuptions to modeling life. >RK > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:41:30 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Americal Nachtbombengeschwader Camo II ( Zeppelin Staaken Message-ID: <36543C20.36C0@ricochet.net> Franco Poloni wrote: > > At 20.18 17/11/98 -0500, you wrote: > >For those of you awaiting your Contrail Staakens, > > uh? is this beast still available????? > where? No, but as I understand it, some list members have coerced the present owner of the kit masters to knock off a dozen or so more. HTH, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:02:00 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: AIM (was Contrail) zeppelin staaken Message-ID: <01BE133F.126922A0.panz-meador@vsti.com> to those of you interested in one (or TWO!) of the AIM zeppelin staaken R.VIs: i have heard recently from neil gaunt of AIM (aircraft in miniature) concerning these vac kits. as you'll recall, the remanufactured kit would consist of 3 large sheets of vac-form pieces, minus the injection molded parts of the original contrail issue. floats would be included as an option, so either the land plane or the float plane could be assembled. sorry for the delay, but a question i had for AIM concerning disposition of funds and postage was submitted to neil before the UK nats, and unfortunately he was unable to answer until after the nats. mr. gaunt quoted a price of (approximately) 17 GBP for these things. this price is for the manpower, etc., to make, bundle, and ship them to me in one big package. my pre-UK nats question concerned the increased price to ship them individually to folks wanting one of the monsters. he responeded with the not-surprising "it would cost maybe 5 pounds more" to ship them individually, thus avoiding the UK -> houston -> norway or australia shipping charges. alternately, he asked if those interested would prefer to have AIM increase the priortity of an eventual re-release of the kit. so, folks, how do we do this? we can go with the original price (say 17 GBP), the kits come to me, i send them out to you. my only beef with this is i don't want to be stuck with postage costs. sorry, but it recently cost me 24 USD to send a package of papers to germany, and i can't afford big(ger) packages to the antipodes. therefore, i'd suggest the following line of action for those still interested: (a) send checks/money orders to me, i send one check/money order to UK (b) AIM produces kits and ships all to me (c) i notify each of you when kits arrive with postage cost (d) i wait for a 2nd check and send them out to each individual, or send COD (US only) via UPS is this OK with everybody? dammit jim, i a doctor (physics) not an international marketeer--what's agreeable to everybody? phillip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:08:44 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Rigging Wires (Again) Message-ID: <365399CB.4D04@mars.ark.com> Harking back to the thread on rigging wire (sneaky pun, what?) I have found another product which works well. It is Darice Craft Designer Beading Wire, which comes in 34-gauge (actually it comes in about four different gauges - take your pick for what goes best with your scale), silver (or gold) finish and has 24 yards on a spool. Item number is 32026-3 for the one I picked up for 1/48th scale rigging and it is available in craft stores. It's cheaper than the fuse wire I was using, as well as a lot more readily available - it costs about one yankee dollar for a spool. I cut it to approximately the desired length and roll it on the back of my cutting board with a flat piece of metal or glass until the wire is dead straight, then I trim it to exactly the right length and in she goes... I use white wood glue to attach it. And there is none of the fear of sneezing while holding a soldering iron between the wings which comes with trying to tighten sprue! Thanks to Dave Vosburgh for the idea - but you don't need to hunt for a 'Michaels' store with this product. The flying wire saga continues - as per the N-9H question. Some D.H.10A aircraft had dual flying wires in the inner two bays and some had single wires - why is nothing ever simple? Dave Fletcher mdf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:15:46 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Exhaust Material on the SE5a Message-ID: <199811182017513@cameron.prontomail.com> what material was the exhaust of the SE5a manufactured from? was it coated with any paint for corrosion resistance or heat resistance? cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:08:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: <1e0a646.365399b0@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/98 7:29:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, dave@vga- graphics.com writes: << Robert: Call those guys back immediately, and have them check the ventilation on the new heater. I think it's backing up; the fumes seem to have affected the speech centers of your brain. You're starting to sound like Alley Oop. DV >> me rather like this new outlook.maybe now me switch to dinosaur models. where do struts go in t-rex? Robert K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:39:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: Robert, > > me rather like this new outlook.maybe now me switch to > dinosaur models. where > do struts go in t-rex? Now *that* is an answer I'll leave alone... Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:47:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: Robert, > me rather like this new outlook.maybe now me switch to > dinosaur models. where > do struts go in t-rex? This reminds me of an off topic story which you all get to hear, like it or not. A friend who is both an extremely keen modeller (hundreds of *completed* models) and amateur dinosaur enthusiast took a break from making dinosaur models to scratchbuild an animal whose latin name escapes me but was effectively a Pleistocene Pig. The model was beautiful, convincing spiky mane a la Warthog, great big tusks, drooling mouth and all. It was presented to be judged at our clubs bi-monthly contest, where several judges were busy judging a large number of models of great variety. The guy judging the pig was mumbling and grumbling, and the chief judge asked him why "Can't find anything wrong! It goes against the grain to give a perfect score" Chief Judge then spends several minutes looking it over before exclaiming in a voice loud enough to cover the room "It doesn't have an arsehole !" Quick as a flash from across the room.. "That'll be why they're extinct !" Total collapse of judging team into laughter. Sometimes it's fun to be a judge :-) Shane (And no, I can't think of a way to get from pigs ass to on topic ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:59:46 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: <01BE1347.24DFB900.panz-meador@vsti.com> -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier [SMTP:sdw@qld.mim.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Robert, Shane (And no, I can't think of a way to get from pigs ass to on topic ) [panz-meador] perhaps discussing tony fokker would do it?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:13:14 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: Robert, > me rather like this new outlook.maybe now me switch to dinosaur models. where > do struts go in t-rex? T-Rex strut wherever he like! Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:02:52 EST From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Americal decals available, cheap Message-ID: After being very generous to those who have expressed an interest, I still have several sheets of Americal/Gryphon 1/72 German decal sheets for trade. I will make a great deal to anyone who wants any of these. I want to trade for 1/48 aeroplane kits, decals, parts, fiddley bits, almost anything just might peak my fancy. What do you have that you want to trade? Qty. Sheet # Subject 1 5 Five Color Lozenge Day Top 1917-1918 3 4 Five Color Lozenge Night Top 1917-1918 (III) 2 1(revised) Kreigsmarine Camouflage 1917-1918 2 25 Alternate 4-color Lozenge (top) 1917-1919 3 2 Hex pattern Night Bomber 1916-1918 7 3 Irregular Polygons Five Colors 1917-1918 These are the sheets for the Gotha or Staaken. Instructions claim they could be used for a 1/48 Gotha as well. 7/8 6 Five Color Lozenge Bottom 1917-1918 One strip of lozenge used from this sheet Thanks, Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:10:02 EST From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 available Message-ID: <8da86a44.3653a82a@aol.com> I have available for trade one C.A.Atkins 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 kit. It is cast all in metal, and comes with a nice decal sheet. I will include with this offer one sheet of Americal/Gryphon Austrian k.u.k tarnstoff hex pattern decals. I want a nice 1/48 vacuform WW 1 or Between the Wars era vacuform kit. Sierra Scale Models, Lone Star Models, What do you have that you want to trade? Thanks, Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:41:43 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: GLENCOE Message-ID: <36545857.13B9@ricochet.net> > Nieuport 28C > Pfalz D III > Alb D III I feel entitled to chime in as I have actually built the A-H Albatros an have 3/4 of the Pfalz done. When I built the Albatros, I was suffering with delerious obsession for the Kosciuszko Squadron and felt lucky that anyone even put out an affordable 253 series kit. I did not concern myself with details so much as symmetry and finish. It was a qualified success. The Pfalz on the other hand had so many problems that I was eventually overwhelmed. Sandy's "a little work" assessment to make this into an accurate model is perhaps an understatement, but then he's almost certainly a much more patient modeler than I. I would say the Nie. 28 might be the most accurate of the three, has interesting markings choices and is the only reasonable alternative to a 40-$50 kit. My advice: If you want to build an A-H Albatros, use the Glecoe as a conversion kit for the Eduard, but get a Blue Rider or other decal sheet as I believe the Glencoe crosses are wrong. If you want build a non-A-H D.III, save yourself the torture and spend the extra sesterces for the Eduard kit. If you want a Pfalz, get an Eduard from Ivan at the holiday rates. Aeromaster has a couple of sheets worth of markings. If enjoy spending money and prefer the presumably more accurate kit, get the Blue Max version. However, if accuracy is not necessarily more important than affordability, get the Glencoe kit. FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:33:41 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: In a message dated 11/18/98 9:11:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au writes: << T-Rex strut wherever he like! Mick. >> Allrighty- that snapped me backed to my previous "reality"! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:16:06 -0800 From: David Kinnear To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Question about Copper State Models Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981118221604.00987dd0@danube.cisco.com> I didn't find them listed on The Rosemont site or on Hobbymaster, where do you guys pick them up from? David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:25:18 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bristol F2b or FE2b That is the question Message-ID: <736c7c13.3653b9ce@aol.com> Hello all, Below is the note that I received from John Adams of Aeroclub. As you recall I had four left wings for my F2B. I goofed. As John pointed out this week, that couldn't be. I rechecked my kits and lo and behold he was right. What I wanted was two right wings for my FE.2b!! As you can see by the John's note he handled this with great humor and thoughtfulness. So thanks to all of you who gave me his e-mail. I have dealt with a truly fine gentleman. BTW, this "conversation" only started Sunday night and has been resolved this Wednesday. With sincere appreciation, -Rick- << Hi Rick, Bristol F2b or FE2b That is the question (W Shakespeare). No problem we will send a pair of right wings, or a right pair of wings as the case may be. Regards John. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:02:56 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rigging Wires (Again) Message-ID: <8644452e.3653c2a0@aol.com> Dave wrote: [snipped]<< The flying wire saga continues - as per the N-9H question. Some D.H.10A aircraft had dual flying wires in the inner two bays and some had single wires - why is nothing ever simple? Dave Fletcher mdf@mars.ark.com >> If it was simple, Dave, we wouldn't have any need for this list! Because it isn't easy, we need each other to solve these little irritations. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 04:13:07 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Publication Question Message-ID: <19981119.041308.-944081.0.mbittner@juno.com> On the back of Windsock, Vol 14 No 4 is a beautifully done Sopwith LCT in French bomber markings (1.B 1). The blurb for the kit says one of the references is "Icare L'Aeronatique Militaire Francaise, Vol. 2". Does anybody know about these publications, and what they entail? For that matter, does anybody know of any other source besides the FMP French book that has info on the French Sopwith LCT's? Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:19:31 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Publication Question Message-ID: <10193172401749@KAIEN.COM> Windsock has done a few French Strutters .. and I have a couple on my site copied from same :-) Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://www.kaien.com/~bpearson/Index.htm Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ---------- > From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Publication Question > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:13:52 -0500 (EST) > > On the back of Windsock, Vol 14 No 4 is a beautifully done Sopwith LCT in > French bomber markings (1.B 1). The blurb for the kit says one of the > references is "Icare L'Aeronatique Militaire Francaise, Vol. 2". Does > anybody know about these publications, and what they entail? > > For that matter, does anybody know of any other source besides the FMP > French book that has info on the French Sopwith LCT's? > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:22:32 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: GLENCOE Message-ID: <199811191056.KAA16405@beryl.sol.co.uk> > out of the middle, thinned down a new leading edge, and added half ribs from > some long forgotten substance.... mmm rib-altering substances? Sounds super-cool man. To me the kit's > value is in its fuselage halves and wings- accurately shaped plastic bits > ready to pleasure with detail and fine tuning. I respect your well-proven ability to turn thoughts into substance Robert, but FWIW, I would rather throw the Glencoe fuselage as far as I could and shape a new armature from balsa wood. It would only take half an evening to get a nicely accurate male mould and a female profile cut-out on a balsa sheet. Pin some plasticard over the hole, heat and plunge twice and voila! a far better (and thin) Albatros fuselage than the Glencoe will render in less than weeks! Maybe its just my sample but the Glencoe upper fuselage section is completely assymetric - it won't fit in a month of Sundays - and the tail-fillet - what tail fillet? Nah bin it! As an afterthought, its worth remembering that every release of Eduard kit so far has been followed a few months later by a sale, with kits reduced dramatically in cost. I've already said I got a bunch of the new LTM kits (Tripe, DVa, Pfalz) from Ivan at under three pounds apiece (under five dollars) including postage. Bet you next Autumn, I can do the same with the D.III. Why ever again buy the Glencoe mess? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:26:50 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: GLENCOE Message-ID: <199811191056.KAA16418@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Hehe. I can see the others frowning and spelling that out. > S-c-r-a-t-c-h......."Now what the heck do you reckon he's a talking > about....?" Thanks a bunch Shane - given your rate of progress, I assume you spell that s...........................................c............................... ................r...............................................a........... ................................t........................................... ....c.................................................h............? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:31:29 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Copper State Models Message-ID: <199811191056.KAA16422@beryl.sol.co.uk> > I've done my share. Have the Dornier D.I and Fokker D.V, both of which > are nice kits. Only a little more work to build than a styrene kit, not > too many pinholes, plenty of well produced decals and etched parts > (USEFULL parts like gun jackets and instrument bezels which actually > work in nickel/brass) Totally agree Shane, I bought the same two - and the best thing is the rarity of the subjects - just seems a shame that CS and BM are both now going to be making Snipes and Dolphins while nobody makes, say, a Tabloid or a BigAck or a Pfalz DrI Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:37:18 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: life intrudes wasRe: GLENCOE Message-ID: <199811191056.KAA16430@beryl.sol.co.uk> > (And no, I can't think of a way to get from pigs ass to on topic ) Manfred von Richthofen Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:53:09 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Off-topic Message-ID: <199811191056.KAA16433@beryl.sol.co.uk> After Shane's excellent pig story, I couldn't resist chiming in with a slightly nearer topic story I read in a book about the naming of aircraft. Evidently when Blackburn were making the Buccaneer, they invited the workforce to suggest possible names and somebody ventured "Arna" - which acronymically denoted "A Royal Navy Aircraft". It seemed a good idea until the company name was put in front of it. The Buccaneer has been the "Banana Bomber" for generations ever since Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:04:26 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Publication Question Message-ID: <199811191106.LAA16987@beryl.sol.co.uk> > For that matter, does anybody know of any other source besides the FMP > French book that has info on the French Sopwith LCT's? I assume you have the Datafile, which has a fair bit, also the Harleyford Sopwith book has a short chapter on them and there are one or two pics in the Vintage Warbirds Sopwith Fighters booklet. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:32:15 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 available Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981119063215.00738c18@dnc.net> At 12:30 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have available for trade one C.A.Atkins 1/72 Aviatik (Berg) D.1 kit. It is >cast all in metal, and comes with a nice decal sheet. I will include with >this offer one sheet of Americal/Gryphon Austrian k.u.k tarnstoff hex pattern >decals. I want a nice 1/48 vacuform WW 1 or Between the Wars era vacuform >kit. Sierra Scale Models, Lone Star Models, What do you have that you want to >trade? > >Thanks, >Mike Franklin >Bellingham, WA > >I recently picked up a 1/48th Sierra Roland Wailfisch...It would be a possible trading item....I also have a couple Eduard kits still listed on Len's Swapn shop page...(Ernest Thomas got the 1/48th Sopwith Baby)....Also I'm kind of interested in the 5 color lozenge sheets (upper/lower) you have listed. I'll go check through the model closet....should have some between the wars kits laying around also... opening negotiations.... Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:12:38 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Copper State Models Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981119101238.006bbac4@conted.swann.gatech.edu> At 05:57 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I've done my share. Have the Dornier D.I and Fokker D.V, both of which >> are nice kits. Only a little more work to build than a styrene kit, not >> too many pinholes, plenty of well produced decals and etched parts >> (USEFULL parts like gun jackets and instrument bezels which actually >> work in nickel/brass) > >Totally agree Shane, I bought the same two - and the best thing is the >rarity of the subjects - just seems a shame that CS and BM are both now >going to be making Snipes and Dolphins while nobody makes, say, a Tabloid >or a BigAck or a Pfalz DrI >Sandy I believe CS as a Pfalz Dr.I in the works, according to its web page. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:26:56 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Copper State Models Message-ID: <199811191525.PAA27681@beryl.sol.co.uk> - just seems a shame that CS and BM are both now > >going to be making Snipes and Dolphins while nobody makes, say, a Tabloid > >or a BigAck or a Pfalz DrI > I believe CS as a Pfalz Dr.I in the works, according to its web page. > Carlos Fantastic - but a wee bit scary too. You don't even have to scratchbuild the rarity now, it seems - you just think about it and - voila! Sandy (Big Ack, Big Ack, Big Ack....) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1301 **********************