WWI Digest 1298 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP by Geoff Smith 2) Re: Albatros D.II & D.III Oeffag Book by Matthew Zivich 3) Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP by "cameron rile" 4) Re: Nie.17bis + by Mike Fletcher 5) Re: Dumb question of the week by Mike Fletcher 6) Re: Dumb question of the week by "Steven M. Perry" 7) RE: Shanes Brisfit ( was website ) by Shane Weier 8) Re: Roland C.II markings by KarrArt@aol.com 9) RAF Museum /Hannants by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 10) Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP by Bob Pearson 11) Re: ProfiPack Nieuport by "David R.L. Laws" 12) Re: Decals or Transfers by "David R.L. Laws" 13) Re: Plasti-Kote Follow-up by "David R.L. Laws" 14) Cobbys High Adventure reprint ( another website ) by "cameron rile" 15) RE: Cobbys High Adventure reprint ( another website ) by Shane Weier 16) RE: Dumb question of the week by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 17) Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 19) Hannants / JGMT Pfalz by "Sandy Adam" 20) Re: Hannants / JGMT Pfalz by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 21) Windsock mail by John & Allison Cyganowski 22) Re: Roland C.II markings / Aviation Awards vol 1 by "Sandy Adam" 23) Flashback 1 1/2 Strutter by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 24) Re: Windsock mail by "Sandy Adam" 25) Re: Flashback 1 1/2 Strutter by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 26) Curtiss N-9H rigging by "Steven M. Perry" 27) Re: Windsock mail by Carlos Valdes 28) Re: white brisfits and pc10 ( was shanes brisfit ) by "cameron rile" 29) Re: Plasti-Kote Follow-up by Geoff Smith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:38:04 +0000 From: Geoff Smith To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP Message-ID: <36508D2C.68BA@cwcom.net> Bob, Cam, Just for the less knowledgable (i.e. me). Is there any connection between Pup N5182 and Tripe N5482 other than the similar serials and names? Oh, and Sopwith. And RNAS. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:17:02 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros D.II & D.III Oeffag Book Message-ID: Kevin, I just called Aviation World to order this book. They ("Bill") was grateful to hear about their company being mentioned on our list. He extends his thanks to you. (I did not reveal your name.) The "out-the-door" price shipped to my neck of the woods will be $45.15 Canadian, but they actually prefer credit card numbers instead of money orders from the States. (I prefer money orders.) FWIW, Matthew Zivich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:24:28 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP Message-ID: <199811161330321@cameron.prontomail.com> >>>>Just for the less knowledgable (i.e. me). Is there any connection between Pup N5182 and Tripe N5482 other than the similar serials and names? Oh, and Sopwith. And RNAS.<<<< none that I am aware of but i dont really know much about serials and how manufacturers were allocated them. A question for the list , who allocated serials? did the manufacturer or the war ministry hand them out to their aircraft? Also the reserialisation of cut nd shut jobs or planes put back together receiving nrew serials such as H serials , who was in charge of that allocation? as to Little , I have a short bio on him on my Australian Flying Corps page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/afca00_little.htm the Australian Flying Corps lead page is at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ignore all the crud underneat this point----> it is advertising crap from the mail service i use. cam :) Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:32:15 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nie.17bis + Message-ID: I'll have a look when I get home, I seem to recall there being some shots in the Early Aircraft Armament book, and there is the Macchi Nieuport 27 Drawings that ww1 aero had some time ago. Mike Fletcher there was another difference with wings - the later machines had less undercamber than the 17 with different x-sections. I have some german drawings of each smewhere that show the actual dimensions for the truely deranged (and no - I have never even considerd using them for a model) Also the 17bis had a shorter fuselage than the 24/24bis/27, being the same as the 17 lengthwise. On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Matthew E Bittner wrote: > I have only found one photo of a Nie.17bis (or "greater") cockpit, and > that's within the Datafile Special Part 2. Anybody know of any more? > Photo's of anything past the Nie.17 is ok - Nie.17bis, Nie.24bis, Nie.24, > Nie.25 or Nie.27. > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Dumb question of the week Message-ID: bis is french for 'again' and is generally used to denote a derivitive variant. The russains were heavily influenced by the french and use it also. The form used for the third variant is often 'ter' whose meaning escapes me for the moment Mike Fletcher On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Steven M. Perry wrote: > Can anyone tell me about the meaning & usage if the term bis. I see this > used in the naming of aircraft types, generally European and ranging from > pre WWI to some types which saw service in WWII. > > TIA > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:11:52 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dumb question of the week Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981116171152.00923624@pop.mindspring.com> At 04:37 PM 11/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >bis is french for 'again' and is generally used to denote a derivitive >variant. The russains were heavily influenced by the french and use it >also. The form used for the third variant is often 'ter' whose meaning >escapes me for the moment Mike & Others kindly responding: Thanks for the info on bis. This clears up a long time mystery. When I spent some time in France in 1967, my baby brother was just learning to speak and would holler "BIS!,BIS!" everytime he saw a bus. I always wondered why we'd get such strange looks from the French. Thanks bis sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:22:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Shanes Brisfit ( was website ) Message-ID: Cam, > what scheme did you end up doing it in , the one with the > charlie chaplin motif on the side? Did u find any other > details on that particular aircraft? > Nope, couldn't find any other details - like serial # or whether the artwork was on the other side too. So I made one of Smiths, nothing to relieve the PC.10/CDL but a white serial on the tail Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:12:42 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roland C.II markings Message-ID: <3d3a72e0.3650b16a@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/98 1:36:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << >One last source I can think of for someone to check- I don't have it.Perhaps > >Vol 1 of O'conner's German Awards series? I have all of them except this one- > >on Bavaria. . . . . > > > >Robert K. Sorry Robert I missed the earlier part of this thread, but this caught my eye. I've got vol.1 - what do you want looked up? Sandy>> We had pretty good thread going trying to help the lovely and talented Shane of the Brisfit- looking for photographic confirmation of the old Profile series fish scale marked Roland C II, crewed by by a Lt Seibert and Haupt.Pfelger. Drove me right crazy! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:41:54 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RAF Museum /Hannants Message-ID: <199811162341.AAA15667@login-2.eunet.no> Folks, >PS I wonder what our visitor friends' thoughts have been about Hannants at >Colindale - I find all the London shops to be very friendly - but not >really this one. Any comments? I usually get to visit Hannants a few times each year even if the meetings I attend are held at the other end of London. Sometimes I get the feeling that I should not disturb the staff there with questions about kits that I am unable to locate. Thought it was because I am a foreigner who doesn`t have English as first language. If they treat everybody the same then I feel better. The other shop I sometimes drop into in London is Comet Miniatures, they are more interested in talking kits and helping to find something in the dungeons. Got a letter from Hannants stating that they had charged my account and sent me a bunch of motorcycle kits, a quick Email got them to refund the money, but I will have to sort out the parcel for them so they get it returned. Have other listmembers experienced the same from Hannants or other shops, otherwise I have found Hannants to be most reliable. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:50:24 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP Message-ID: <23502456305565@KAIEN.COM> Hey great question . . .both were at Naval Eight and both had the name MAUD (LADY MAUD for N5182). However MAUD (Triplane N5482) was flown by F/Cdr CD Booker, while LADY MAUD was flown by Little. Other than that. . who knows . .. Bob ---------- > From: Geoff Smith > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:42:52 -0500 (EST) > > Bob, Cam, > > Just for the less knowledgable (i.e. me). Is there any connection > between Pup N5182 and Tripe N5482 other than the similar serials and > names? Oh, and Sopwith. And RNAS. > > Regards, > > Geoff > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:35:29 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ProfiPack Nieuport Message-ID: <36516D92.62C1@webtime.com.au> Any of the Legal eagles in the list have email contacts for any of the following US offices or responsible officers - A contact name would be great if can do > Texas Attorney General > US Postal Service > San Antonio District Attorney Thanks to all DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:43:34 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Decals or Transfers Message-ID: <36516F77.A59@webtime.com.au> >8. Palmer Cord Aero Tyres >9. some small numbering suitable for strut and a/c airframe Nos etc.. >10. Weight tables >11. Etc ... 12. BALLAST FESTBINDEN! (secure ballast! - in rear cockpit when flying w/o observer) Anyone interested in this decal project shouild fee free to contact me OFF-LIST with expressions of interest and any additional stencils they'd like to see included on a sheet Regards DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:45:24 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Plasti-Kote Follow-up Message-ID: <36516FE5.1B04@webtime.com.au> Dave Thanks for this one could you pick up a can for me and I'll fix you up for it later BTW does anyone know if there's problem sending aerosol SURFACE mail Regards david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:16:59 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cobbys High Adventure reprint ( another website ) Message-ID: <199811161923121@cameron.prontomail.com> I found this website , that has a reprint i guess of Cobby's High Adventure biography. It is at : http://www.sympac.com.au/jtboundy/Hkooka.htm there are a couple of other titles there but only that one pertaining to world war 1. I havent got high adventure yet so I will probably rush to order it :) cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:52:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Cobbys High Adventure reprint ( another website ) Message-ID: Cam, > I found this website , that has a reprint i guess of Cobby's > High Adventure biography. It is at : > > http://www.sympac.com.au/jtboundy/Hkooka.htm > > there are a couple of other titles there but only that one > pertaining to world war 1. I havent got high adventure yet so > I will probably rush to order it :) > > cam > This is a better deal than the original. The Kookaburra reprint has nice colour profiles and plenty of illustrations not seen in the original. I have the 1942? version, and have been looking for the 1970s? version for some time Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Dumb question of the week Message-ID: <199811170449.UAA28665@ednet1.orednet.org> >Dumb answer of the month >I think that's because "bis" is an expression to denote "another", as >frenchmen yell at theather when they liked a song and want to hear it again. >It's like the british do with "mark" 1, 2, 3 etc. that denotes a new version >or type of the same machine. The sad thing is that they have to change the >name of the darn plane if they want a third version! Actually, "bis" means "second" - from the Latin root "bi" meaning "two"; as in "bicycle", "bisect", "bicentennial", etc. The Italians, at least, continued the series through "ter" and "quater" as well. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP Message-ID: <199811170513.VAA10239@ednet1.orednet.org> >A question for the list , who allocated serials? did the manufacturer or >the war ministry hand them out to their aircraft? Also the reserialisation >of cut nd shut jobs or planes put back together receiving nrew serials such >as H serials , who was in charge of that allocation? It sez here the serials were allocated by the War Ministry - and later the Air Ministry. The "N" serials listed for the Naval Pups and Triplanes are _way_ out of sequence, I'm suspecting (without a firm reference) that the Royal Navy allocated its own series of "N" serial numbers for aircraft procured by the RN before the formation of the RAF. The "N" prefix seems to appear on Naval Babies and Camels as well as Sopwith tripes and Pups. After 1918, the serial numbers run consequentially up through the present time. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LITTLE ( RNAS ) - SOPWITH PUP Message-ID: <199811170517.VAA13084@ednet1.orednet.org> >Hey great question . . .both were at Naval Eight and both had the name MAUD >(LADY MAUD for N5182). However MAUD (Triplane N5482) was flown by F/Cdr CD >Booker, while LADY MAUD was flown by Little. Other than that. . who knows . You don't suppose the lady was liberal in sharing her affections, do ya'? :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:20:46 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Hannants / JGMT Pfalz Message-ID: <199811171020.KAA19502@beryl.sol.co.uk> Thanks for the reply Knut Erik & Graham - really confirms what I thought. The reason for the question was recently hearing an American customer asking for all sorts of things and getting bare monosyllabic replies. This I have heard many times there and sometimes feel I have strayed into a National Front meeting rather than a model shop. At the Head Office in Lowestoft they are helpful and friendly - phone requests will have them walking up and down aisles searching out things for you - but I would hate to have some of our foreign list friends hot-footing it for North London for Hannant's expecting the sort of reception you get from Comet (for example). It's certainly worth the visit for the range of product though - I got the JGMT Pfalz E.I there at the weekend and, although expensive, this is another gem from the French company - quite how they manage the level of interior detail moulded into the resin fuselage parts I don't know - Robert would be happy to see the nicely shaped fuel tank on the underside of the upper fuselage front decking - happy since this will be totally obscured when you close it up! Matt would love the brass fret which includes two pairs of beautiful Pfalz & Morane Saulnier badges - No. Nobody can have the M-S ones, I'm using them! This is one of those kits which is totally irresistable and I had to get started on it right away (The 4 Camels look dejected at this upstart Hun elbowing his way in) I can tell it will only take a few days to build - there is so little to add or change. (Are these famous last words?) Sandy ---------- > From: Knut Erik Hagen > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RAF Museum /Hannants > Date: 16 November 1998 15:44 > > Folks, > > >PS I wonder what our visitor friends' thoughts have been about Hannants at > >Colindale - I find all the London shops to be very friendly - but not > >really this one. Any comments? > I usually get to visit Hannants a few times each year even if the meetings I > attend are held at the other end of London. > Sometimes I get the feeling that I should not disturb the staff there with > questions about kits that I am unable to locate. > Thought it was because I am a foreigner who doesn`t have English as first > language. > If they treat everybody the same then I feel better. > The other shop I sometimes drop into in London is Comet Miniatures, they are > more interested in talking kits and helping to find something in the dungeons. > > Got a letter from Hannants stating that they had charged my account and sent me > a bunch of motorcycle kits, a quick Email got them to refund the money, > but I will have to sort out the parcel for them so they get it returned. > Have other listmembers experienced the same from Hannants or other shops, > otherwise I have found Hannants to be most reliable. > > Eders > Knut Erik > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:49:42 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hannants / JGMT Pfalz Message-ID: <19981117.050927.-944119.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:23:13 -0500 (EST) "Sandy Adam" writes: >Matt would love the brass fret which includes two pairs of beautiful >Pfalz >& Morane Saulnier badges - No. Nobody can have the M-S ones, I'm >using >them! Sorry, wrong scale. But thanks for asking! :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:17:00 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Windsock mail Message-ID: <36515B2C.2E8@worldnet.att.net> I took advantage of one of the full page ads that Albatros Productions/Winsock recently ran in FSM. The postage was free over a certain amount. Do they ship airmail or surface? If they ship airmail, I have a problem as the package would seem to me, to be very late. OTOH, if they ship surface, my guess is that they would make good stocking stuffers. Has anybody else had any experiance with this before? Cyg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:36:01 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Roland C.II markings / Aviation Awards vol 1 Message-ID: <199811171135.LAA22643@beryl.sol.co.uk> No whales in AAvol1, I'm afraid Robert. Nor ref to either individual. Plenty of pictures of Otto Kissenberth (dead ringer for Elton John, with his little round specs on) and lots of Max Mueller (He of the incredible sticking out ears - in one pic of him in an Albatros Scout I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't a triplane!) Sorry doesn't help. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:38:32 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Flashback 1 1/2 Strutter Message-ID: <19981117.053833.-904511.0.mbittner@juno.com> Wow. This is an awesome kit. Options for both the single seat *and* the double seat. Two engines. Photoetch details. This can definitely be built out of the box. The only negative? The colors of the French roundels do not seem *right to me*. I personally like the colors that Americal, Blue Rider and Pegasus provides (which are all the same colors). So that means the wonderful rudder decals are the wrong color *for me*. YMMV. This will definitely be built into a French bird. CDL with all those cool Escadrille emblems? It's a natural. :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:43:39 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Windsock mail Message-ID: <199811171142.LAA22934@beryl.sol.co.uk> > I have a problem as the package would seem to me, to be very late. > OTOH, if they ship surface, my guess is that they would make good > stocking stuffers. Has anybody else had any experiance with this > before? Hi Cyg - FWIW I allow 8 weeks for standard surface mail US/UK, I am still waiting for a book I ordered over the net from a bookshop in Oakland CA, which I bought 30 September. I reckon to get it 1st December. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:57:43 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Flashback 1 1/2 Strutter Message-ID: >Wow. This is an awesome kit. Options for both the single seat *and* the >double seat. Two engines. Photoetch details. > >This can definitely be built out of the box. >This will definitely be built into a French bird. CDL with all those >cool Escadrille emblems? It's a natural. :-) > > >Matt Bittner > Matt, I totally agree. I bought both versions and started cleaning up the single seat version last night. A very straight-forward kit, and nice detail. Great decal options. Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:02:06 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Curtiss N-9H rigging Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981117080206.0068c380@pop.mindspring.com> Can anyone tell me if the lift and drag wires on the Curtiss N-9H floatplane were doubled. I have 3 photos of the aircraft which are inconclusive. The 3 view line drawing I have is no help here either. The reason I ask is that a photo of a model has the doubled wires. Since they added span to both upper and lower wings of a JN-4 wing to make the N-9H wing, resulting in a 3 bay wing, I'm wondering if they might have used extra bracing wires also. While I'm on the subject of N-9Hs, does anyone have any information on the few which I understand were shipped across and served in France (Dunkirk?)during the war? TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:18:03 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Windsock mail Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981117101802.006a8af4@conted.swann.gatech.edu> At 06:20 AM 11/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >I took advantage of one of the full page ads that Albatros >Productions/Winsock recently ran in FSM. The postage was free over a >certain amount. Do they ship airmail or surface? If they ship airmail, >I have a problem as the package would seem to me, to be very late. >OTOH, if they ship surface, my guess is that they would make good >stocking stuffers. Has anybody else had any experiance with this >before? > >Cyg > The last time I ordered direct from Ray (also based on the FSM ad) I waited and waited and finally called, twice, to eventually discover that my package had apparently disappeared en route. I did finally get my order, but of the three direct orders from Albatros I have been involved with, two have vanished while crossing the pond and have had to be replaced. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:27:50 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: white brisfits and pc10 ( was shanes brisfit ) Message-ID: <199811170723402@cameron.prontomail.com> Shane wrote: >Nope, couldn't find any other details - like serial # or whether the >artwork was on the other side too. So I made one of Smiths, nothing >to relieve the PC.10/CDL but a white serial on the tail bummer about the charlie chaplin motif. I read that Carrick Pauls Brisfit was all yellow , would love a picture proving it. There is a photo of 1 AFC's A7198 with a white body , PC10 tail , and white wing with the left upper wing top PC10 and the right lower wing bottom PC10. There is also another one of it with all white wings. There is also another photo of an all PC10 brisfit from 1 AFC with what looks like an oval type inscription fore of roundal in white and the rudder bears a "B" or "8". Have you seen anything on that one? cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:12:38 +0000 From: Geoff Smith To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Plasti-Kote Follow-up Message-ID: <3651CAA6.6EEA@cwcom.net> David R.L. Laws wrote: > > Dave > > Thanks for this one could you pick up a can for me and I'll fix you up > for it later > > BTW does anyone know if there's problem sending aerosol SURFACE mail > > Regards > > david Try blanking out the aero bit? Geoff. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1298 **********************