WWI Digest 1290

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE:List members addresses
	by Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
  2) 11/11@11/1918
	by "Steven M. Perry" <smperry@mindspring.com>
  3) Re: Toko Snipe notes correction
	by "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
  4) Re: ODP: List members addresses
	by "Alexandre de C. Triffoni" <atcampos@nutecnet.com.br>
  5) Re: List members addresses
	by Chris Cato <tcato@connix.com>
  6) Re: List Member Addresses
	by "Eli Geher" <iceman@ro.com>
  7) 11:00 In Central Texas
	by "Richard Eaton" <reaton@dsccc.com>
  8) Re: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  9) Re: 11/11@11/1918
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 10) Re: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 11) Re: List members addresses
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 12) Re: List members addresses
	by Geoff Smith <geoff-smith@email.cwcom.net>
 13) Re: Shane the Mighty
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 14) Re: W.29 blue
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 15) RE: List members addresses
	by Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
 16) Re: 11/11@11/1918
	by "K. Hagerup" <hagerupk@prodigy.net>
 17) Re: List members addresses
	by michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT)
 18) Re: 11/11@11/1918
	by Matthew Zivich <mzivich@svsu.edu>
 19) Re: 11/11@11/1918
	by "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
 20) Re: ODP: List members addresses
	by Crofoot <crofoot@uswest.net>
 21) Albatros D.III (Papenmeyer)
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 22) Re: list members addresses
	by "Brad Gossen" <bigglesrfc@globalserve.net>
 23) RE: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 24) list member addresses
	by Allred240Z@aol.com
 25) Re: W.29 blue
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 26) RE: List members addresses
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 27) Re: Blackadder
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 28) Re: W.29 blue
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 29) Remembrance
	by "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 30) Combat report - Bristol F.2b  
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 31) Re: List members addresses
	by Zulis@aol.com
 32) SITE FOUND - BARGAIN HUNTERS
	by "David R.L. Laws" <laws@webtime.com.au>
 33) Re: Combat report - Bristol F.2b
	by Suvoroff@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:57:37 -0800
From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: WW1 posts <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE:List members addresses
Message-ID: <364AA301.7BE8FEAE@tac.com.au>

Hi everyone, 

we live in a town called Gorokan (about 1hr and a half from Sydney) Not
a bad place, in terms of location 40 mins north quite a good model shop
and of course Sydney has been known to have a couple of good shops.

Added to this we are only 1 - 2 hrs away from a major wine producing
area (hic) and 10 mins away from the Australian's survival mechanism (to
used on days which are too hot to model). THE BEACH!!

Anytime any of the list is in Sydney, it's really not that far to come
and visit us. You'll know our place. It will be the house that looks
like it's ready to explode :-) (I swear I don't know how two people can
fill up a 3 bedroom house when they also have a garage but I wish that
we had one of those American houses so we could have an attic AND a
basement) THINK of all the places to hide kits then <BG>

Regards, Lorna

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:14:53 -0500
From: "Steven M. Perry" <smperry@mindspring.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: 11/11@11/1918
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981111101453.006bf4d4@pop.mindspring.com>

At 08:51 AM 11/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Bob Pearson wrote:
>> 
>> If not Armistice or Remembrance Day (as in Canada), what do you call 11
>> November in the USA?
>> 
>
>Veterans day.
>

I still refer to it as Armistice Day. When corrected, I respond with: "That
may be what the government calls it these days, but they also call income
tax fair and reasonable." Revisionism aside, I try to remember all who
served, whether they survived to become veterans or not. The other 364
days, I try to act like I appreciate the freedoms for which so many
sacrificed so much. 

Today I'll hoist a cold one in honor of all who served and another to those
who also fell, regardless of uniform. 

Wishing all a Peaceful November 11th.
sp

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:42:55 -0700
From: "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Toko Snipe notes correction
Message-ID: <9811111541.AA28095@fltdyn.com>

Dane Ancerson writes:

> I'm glad to hear this; it means I won't hesitate to pick up one of these
> kits the next time I see one (for the record, the guy at the only shop in
> town to regularly stock Toko says that he can't keep Snipes in stock; they
> go as soon as he prices them and puts them on the shelf).

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Snipe hunt", eh? 

;-)

Mark
mshanks@fltdyn.com

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:50:22 -0200
From: "Alexandre de C. Triffoni" <atcampos@nutecnet.com.br>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: ODP: List members addresses
Message-ID: <199811111548.NAA24425@srv1-cas.cas.nutecnet.com.br>

  Hi folks !

  I live in Campinas/SP - Brazil. Just 550 km west of Rio de Janeiro and
100 km north of Sao Paulo. South America as our fellow Alberto Rada.
  Our beaches and women are as good as the Venezuelan ones ! (just kidding,
Alberto !).

  Best regards,

  Alexandre - atcampos@nutecnet.com.br - Brazil

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:44:45 -0500
From: Chris Cato <tcato@connix.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: List members addresses
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981111114445.0091b200@mail.connix.com>

Currently hailing from Hartford CT in the lower part of New England.  I'm
about 30 minutes from the New England Air Museum, housing an OX-5, Gnome,
Palen-built Dr.1 replica and soon a Sikorsky S-16 replica.  Approximately a
2 hour drive from Old Rhinebeck (Replica 'Mecca').  A few decent local
hobby shops but woefully little WWI content.  I hope to get a web page back
in working order soon with some pics taken at Rhinebeck this year
(including the Rhinebeck Dolphin sans fabric).  Currently finishing up a
Toko Snipe OOB (in spite of errors it undeniably looks like a Snipe) and a
Eduard Tripe.  Next up is likely an Eduard D.VIII.


Chris Cato
tcato@connix.com



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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:48 -0600
From: "Eli Geher" <iceman@ro.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: List Member Addresses
Message-ID: <019c01be0d95$7ecffa40$686086d0@ELIGEHER>

Huntsville, Alabama  ...  Where .5 inch (12 mm) of predicted snowfall will
cause all the bread and milk in the grocery stores to disappear within
minutes.    I've found this attitude refreshing after all the many years of
pressing on regardless through New York winters.  But I'm still not
finishing any models (???).

Eli Geher


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:02:29 -0600
From: "Richard Eaton" <reaton@dsccc.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: 11:00 In Central Texas
Message-ID: <3649C325.AB304D91@dsccc.com>

Here's to you all.

Regards,

Richard

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:06:10 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
Message-ID: <878ff9af.3649d212@aol.com>

In a message dated 11/11/98 2:19:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, cbbs@almac.co.uk
writes:

<< Sandy
 PS Do you guys get "Blackadder" on the box? BBC has been re-running the
 last series with Blackadder and Baldrick in the Trenches with it timed to
 coincide with 11/11/98 at the end when Rowan Atlkinson and Tony Robinson
 suddenly disappear and are replaced by poppies - laughter suddenly becomes
 a lump in the throat.
  >>

Yeah, the entire was ran a few years ago. Aside from being just plain weird-
goofy hilarious, the ending was a startling and effective comment, but somehow
it fit.
Robert K.

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:06:14 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 11/11@11/1918
Message-ID: <5d7933d4.3649d216@aol.com>

In a message dated 11/11/98 4:54:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bucky@ptdprolog.net writes:

<< Armistice day........ When was the name changed in the US? I went to grade
school in the 50's and still remember it nbeing called that and WWI vets
 selling poppies. Anyway, I was at least heartened that so many people in
 the office evemn remembered the day.
 Mike Muth >>
I'm not sure, now that you mention it. I seem to remember "Armistice" Day in
my first couple of elementary school grades- late 50s.
Robert K.

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:39:16 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981111113916.006c9f38@mail>

At 01:29 PM 11/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/11/98 2:19:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cbbs@almac.co.uk
>writes:
>
><< Sandy
> PS Do you guys get "Blackadder" on the box? BBC has been re-running the
> last series with Blackadder and Baldrick in the Trenches with it timed to
> coincide with 11/11/98 at the end when Rowan Atlkinson and Tony Robinson
> suddenly disappear and are replaced by poppies - laughter suddenly becomes
> a lump in the throat.
>  >>

I've never been able to watch that episode without bawling.

So at odds with all the other Blackadder runs.

Dane

>Yeah, the entire was ran a few years ago. Aside from being just plain weird-
>goofy hilarious, the ending was a startling and effective comment, but
somehow
>it fit.
>Robert K.
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:47:40 -0500
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: List members addresses
Message-ID: <002e01be0da3$c39f9b40$1f7433cf@Pvosburg>

Chris:

Were you at NEAM for the Wings & Wheels IPMS show on Sunday? I stopped down
for a while with my three young'uns (the oldest inspired to do Hawker's
D.H.2 for the next show; will be his 2nd with no help from Dad,
theoretically) and spoke for quite a while with Dave Calhoun from Enfield,
who had about a dozen WWI types on display. Nice job on all... someone
else's "Kempf" Dr.I took 3rd place in Large Scale, although I can't remember
the gent's name.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cato <tcato@connix.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: List members addresses


>Currently hailing from Hartford CT in the lower part of New England.  I'm
>about 30 minutes from the New England Air Museum...

 >Chris Cato
>tcato@connix.com
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:52:22 +0000
From: Geoff Smith <geoff-smith@email.cwcom.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: List members addresses
Message-ID: <3649DCE6.442B@cwcom.net>

Born in Blackburn, Lancashire (of the 10,000 holes) now living in
Darwen, 5 miles further south (on account of the better climate), on the
islands that have Europe just offshore (where it should stay). Used to
complain about the incessant rain till I saw what happened in Central
America, but now I just complain about no sunshine.

Joey writes:
>Countryman of the first person known to have circumnavigated the globe.
>
>Anyone know his name?    :-)

Only countryman of the first person to circumnavigate the globe that I
know of is a guy called Joey Valenciano, living in Manila. Is this who
you mean?

And Shane wrote:
>Holding her fingers about 4 inches apart she
>said "*I* like *little* planes"

And were these two fingers on the same hand? :-) Perhaps you could
change scale? A Zep-Staaken with a 4 inch wingspan sounds like a REAL
challenge.

Congratulations on finally finishing the umm, errr, tell us again, what
was it?

And finally, on the subject of dogfight doubles, what about:

pilot vs castor oil

Regards

Geoff

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:52:36 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Shane the Mighty
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981111115236.006dbcf4@mail>

At 01:49 AM 11/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Just though that I'd pass it along to all you dear list folk that the old
>smear about our list has surfaced again on RMS, and our dear beloved St.
Shane
>of the Brisfit has been valiantly defending our honor!
> Robert K.
>
It looks like that same jerk. Gosh, I guess some people really, really need
to get a life. I mean, what kind of jollies do you get stirring up the pot
and trying to slander WW I modellers? Did a WW I modeller's cat poop in his
garden once or what?

Thanks Shane.

Dane


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:12:09 -0500
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: W.29 blue
Message-ID: <000601be0da7$40540420$087433cf@Pvosburg>

Bob:

Thanks for the clarification. Could I trouble you further to ask if they
were interchangable, or manufacturer or time-specific? DSA mentions a D.VII,
and Gotha & Albatros W-types as a/c covered with the brown...

Dave
(suffering from a Datafile deficiency)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: W.29 blue


>
>David,
>
>There are two naval hex patterns. One in blue, one in brown. According to
>the W.12 Datafile the blue pattern is...
>
>Light grey blue   19C2
>Light blue           22C4
>Mid blue              21E3
>
>While the brown is ..
>Deep blue    20E3
>Purple         13E3
>Brown          5E3
>
>
>Regards,
>         Bob Pearson
>
>Visit my WW1 aviation page at
>http://www.kaien.com/~bpearson/Index.htm
>
>Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
>http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/
>
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:22:42 +0100
From: Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
To: "WW1 Modeling List (E-mail)" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: List members addresses
Message-ID: <01BE0DA8.B0DEA280@fei1-p15.telepac.pt>




----------
> From: Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Re: List members addresses
> Date: terça-feira, 10 de novembro de 1998 21:04
> 
> 
> Manila, Philippines
> 
> Countryman of the first person known to have circumnavigated the globe.
> 
> Anyone know his name?    :-)




Feijo - Almada, 4km from Lisboa, on the left bank of the Tagus.

And Countryman of the first person to start a circumnavigation of the world (at least that's what the story books tell us, and I suspect you know someyhing about it i don't know, Joey. You're not speaking of our Fernando Magalhaes nor of Mr. Del Cano, are you?)

Thin rain outside, 7.30 pm, mid 20's (centigrade). Lousy weather for me, I don't like too much humidity ...

Um abraco

Pedro 

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:46:19 -0600
From: "K. Hagerup" <hagerupk@prodigy.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 11/11@11/1918
Message-ID: <3649E98B.5872@prodigy.net>

On this day, in addition to my grandfather of the 42nd Highlanders, I
will also remember the crew of the EA-6B which crashed aboard the USS
Enterprise this weekend.  All gave their lives, including a female Naval
Fight Officer. 

On one of my cruises, we also lost an airplane and crew on the first
week of a six month deployment, and I still have vivid memories of the
pain it caused.  

Some people seem to be able to find amusement in the esprit de corps
common in Naval Aviation, but I'm thankful that there are still people
willing to put their lives on the line for the right to express one's
opinion, however insipid it may be.

Ken
USN (Retired)

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:28:24 GMT
From: michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: List members addresses
Message-ID: <3649f1bb.12337896@relay.ping.be>

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:06:36 -0500 (EST), Modelhound@aol.com wrote:

>I remember quite some time ago someone, I think it was Monsieur Matt Bittner,
>was putting together a list of addresses of the wwi list members.  Does this
>list still exist?  Is it current?  Or would the members like to participate in
>a thread where we all chime in with our home cities.  Myself, I live in
>Bellingham, Washington State, USA.  Up in the very northwest corner of the
>States.  How about it guys and gals, where do you live? Just out of curiosity,
>you know. eh mate!
>
Hello,
I live in Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium. If you don't know the town (what I'm
quite sure of), it's near Waterloo. BTW, Did you know that there was no
battle at all on the soil of Waterloo in 1815? The battle took place on
the towns of Braine-l'Alleud, Mont-Saint-Jean and Plancenoit. It's known
as the battle of Waterloo because the Duke of Wellington had his
headquarter there and he signed his report from Waterloo. So goes the
history, sometimes. Also, the famous Lion of Waterloo is not in
Waterloo, but in Braine-l'Alleud, ta-daa ;-). That's why some people
were quite angry with this denomination and it was changed for "Butte du
Lion" (the Lion Rise).
Regards

--
Michel Lefort <ipms.belgium@ping.be> - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium
IPMS Belgium Treasurer & Foreign Liaison Officer (member F012)
MAFVA member #6708
http://www.ping.be/ipms-belgium
Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:39:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew Zivich <mzivich@svsu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: 11/11@11/1918
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981111152945.4338B-100000@tardis.svsu.edu>


	I heard on NPR this morning that Armistice Day was changed to
Veterans Day in 1954 by Pres. Eisenhower.  I'll always remember it as
Armistice Day too.  I'll never forget standing for a moment of silence at
11:00am on the 11th of Nov. in grade school.  But it wasn't until many
years later that I learned of our very limited involvement in WWI and it
really wasn't another one of our long string of "victories".  Maybe that
had something to do with the change to Veterans Day.

Matt Z.
	

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 KarrArt@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 11/11/98 4:54:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> bucky@ptdprolog.net writes:
> 
> << Armistice day........ When was the name changed in the US? I went to grade
> school in the 50's and still remember it nbeing called that and WWI vets
>  selling poppies. Anyway, I was at least heartened that so many people in
>  the office evemn remembered the day.
>  Mike Muth >>
> I'm not sure, now that you mention it. I seem to remember "Armistice" Day in
> my first couple of elementary school grades- late 50s.
> Robert K.
> 


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:49:03 -0700
From: "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 11/11@11/1918
Message-ID: <9811112047.AA03362@fltdyn.com>

Matt Z writes:

> 	I heard on NPR this morning that Armistice Day was changed to
> Veterans Day in 1954 by Pres. Eisenhower.  I'll always remember it as
> Armistice Day too.  I'll never forget standing for a moment of silence at
> 11:00am on the 11th of Nov. in grade school.  But it wasn't until many
> years later that I learned of our very limited involvement in WWI and it
> really wasn't another one of our long string of "victories".  Maybe that
> had something to do with the change to Veterans Day.

Hmmm - I don't know why I should remember it as Armistice Day myself. 
I used to be very embarrassed by getting so "misty-eyed" when, as a 
young grade schooler in Detroit (also c. 1959-60), "Taps" was played 
over the P.A. while we young 'uns lined the halls with our paper 
poppies in our buttonholes...

Mark
mshanks@fltdyn.com

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:48:41 -0600
From: Crofoot <crofoot@uswest.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: ODP: List members addresses
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981111154841.0071f27c@pop.dlth.uswest.net>

On Tuesday 11/10/98 you wrote:
>
>Well good for you.  Up here in Thunder Bay, Canada we are presently
>enjoying  what appears to be a sleet hurricane.  Freezing rain at 70k/h.
>Is your house very big, Alberto?
>Jim Lyzun
>
>
I live in Cloquet, MN., about 3 hours southwest of Thunder Bay.  We were
fortunate enough to weather the same storm.  Ironically, the day was also
the anniversary of the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald.

Tim Crofoot

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:03:03 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Albatros D.III (Papenmeyer)
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CD7A050B@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Hello all,

Tom Eisenhour, a former, and almost foundation, member of the list has
emailed me off line about the Eduard Albatros D.III   Obviously it has
inspired him almost enough to have him come back to the fold. He asked
me:

> The markings I was referring to are those of Ltn. Wilhelm 
> Papenmeyer, of Jasta Boelcke in the winter of 1917-18.  
> The fuselage has a  large stylized
> Imperial eagle in black and white? -- VERY striking! The 
> aircraft is an OAW-built D.III.  Are there many differences between 
> OAW-built D.IIIs and the Eduard kit? Scanned image attached.  Can you
ask if 
> anyone on the list has any  pictures of this aircraft? Where to
> find them? Thanks!
> 

Can anyone help him?

Shane

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:19:18 -0500
From: "Brad Gossen" <bigglesrfc@globalserve.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: list members addresses
Message-ID: <199811112222.RAA18348@smtp2.globalserve.net>

   De-lurking to say I'm from Oshawa, Ontario, Canada. Recently moved from
Toronto. Now I have a 50 minute drive to my favourite plastic pusher
instead of the former 10 minute, Doh! 
   I ,also, would like to extend an open invitation if any of you (Kevin) 
happen to be passing through the neighbourhood to visit and see the sights.
(This still includes you Bob. I was going to insist that the next time you
visit you wear long pants but I happen to know you don't own a pair!) 
   Hey Al (Magnus), I spent six looooong months at 'Club Fed' about ten
years ago! The only thing that kept me sane were copies of Canadian Airmen
And The First World War and David Copperfield (a book about people who were
slightly worse off than I was). I was sorry to learn recently that Depot is
closing. I still miss all that wheat! ARRRGOOOS!
    
Brad Gossen 
BigglesRFC@globalserve.net
(905) 721-0792
nb: same bloody RNAS Jenny I was working on this time last year!
nu: Ha ha ha!

Bob, Happy Birthday, been busy, flew my first mission the other day. 
   
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> From: magnus family <magnusfamily@cableregina.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: list members adresses
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 9:31 PM
> 
> I'm from Regina, Saskatchewan in the beautiful, but flat Canadian
> praries.
> We have the best football team in the CFL, go Riders go!, the best
> junior football team,
> Go Rams Go!, the best women's curling team, the Sandra Schmerler rink, 
> Olympic gold medal winners, and are the home of the RCMP Training
> Centre.
> Only thing that gets in the way of this place being one of the best on
> this planet, are those Siberian like winters!
> 
> Al Magnus

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:32:49 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Rememberance Day - RES IPSA LOQUITUR
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CD7A050D@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Sandy

> Haig wanted to execute some diggers too but the Australians 
> would not let him

This was a consequence of Breaker Morants execution during the Boer War
and the subsequent outcry. Never since has the power to sentence an
Australian soldier been given to any other country whether our trops
were fighting under their control or not.

> Only this year has a pardon been granted for all the UK men 
> who died at the firing squad and only this year have relatives been
allowed 
> to lay flowers at their graves as part of the official ceremonies.

M Jospins government is doing the same for French soldiers imprisoned or
executed after the mutinies by some of their sorely tested troops.

> PS Do you guys get "Blackadder" on the box? BBC has been 
> re-running the
> last series with Blackadder and Baldrick in the Trenches with 
> it timed to
> coincide with 11/11/98 at the end when Rowan Atlkinson and 
> Tony Robinson
> suddenly disappear and are replaced by poppies - laughter 
> suddenly becomes
> a lump in the throat.
> 

I consider this episode the finest piece of work Rowan Atkinson has
done, and have sat through it several times *just* for the "fade to
poppies" scene.  You need to see all eps of the series to recognise that
he'd dpent his entire time trying to escape the trenches - the futility
of it all is then powerfully re-inforced by the end.

(Funniest line, in the RFC episone  "I don't care how many times they go
up diddley up, they're still idiots"

Shane

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:25:03 EST
From: Allred240Z@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: list member addresses
Message-ID: <a6ef6d5c.364a0ebf@aol.com>

Hello from Charlotte, North Carolina new home of Bank of America. 1 decentish
hobby shop, always thin on WW1. Good thing I like mail order.
Bob Allred

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:45:06 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: W.29 blue
Message-ID: <22450608902582@KAIEN.COM>


David,

They appear to be interchangeable insofar as both were used concurrently -
but not on the same airframe. Also note that the various bolts were
carefully lined up so as to present a continuous pattern.

Further reading of the Datafile says that there are undoubtedly additional
patterns of which just the details are lacking !!!!


Regards,
         Bob Pearson


----------
> From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Re: W.29 blue
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:17:21 -0500 (EST)
> 
> Bob:
> 
> Thanks for the clarification. Could I trouble you further to ask if they
> were interchangable, or manufacturer or time-specific? DSA mentions a
D.VII,
> and Gotha & Albatros W-types as a/c covered with the brown...
> 
> Dave
> (suffering from a Datafile deficiency)
> 


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:59:38 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: List members addresses
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CD7A050F@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Geoff,

> 
> And finally, on the subject of dogfight doubles, what about:
> 
> pilot vs castor oil
> 

Hah. Subject of my next scratchbuild. Could start with the Glencoe pile
of shi*  ;-)

Shane

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:49:41 -0500
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: "WWI M.M.L." <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Blackadder
Message-ID: <001501be0dcd$f6324920$2c7433cf@Pvosburg>

Another Blackadder fan checking in. I think the mark of a truly great
comedian is the fact that they can pull something like the end of the WWI
series and get away without it seeming pretentious or striking a sour note.
Not many people in the entertainment business could transition from "Wubble,
wubble!" to a major lump in the throat in the space of a single episode.
Wish he'd give the Mr. Bean schtick a rest and do some more in that vein.
And bring Hugh Laurie along as observer...

Dave


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:00:00 -0500
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: W.29 blue
Message-ID: <002501be0dcf$6520eac0$2c7433cf@Pvosburg>

Thank you, Bob. The "brown" marine hex has something about it which has been
calling out to me since I saw Keith Woodcocks wonderful painting of the
semi-mythical Poll Triplane bomber (too bad Young Indiana Jones didn't have
a camera handy in "Revenge of the Hawkmen"!!!) on the cover of the 30th
anniversary issue of WWI Aero. Maybe on a 1:48th Alb. W.4 one of these days?
Hmm...

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: W.29 blue


>
>David,
>
>They appear to be interchangeable insofar as both were used concurrently -
>but not on the same airframe. Also note that the various bolts were
>carefully lined up so as to present a continuous pattern.
>
>Further reading of the Datafile says that there are undoubtedly additional
>patterns of which just the details are lacking !!!!
>
>
>Regards,
>         Bob Pearson
>
>
>----------
>> From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>> Subject: Re: W.29 blue
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:17:21 -0500 (EST)
>>
>> Bob:
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification. Could I trouble you further to ask if they
>> were interchangable, or manufacturer or time-specific? DSA mentions a
>D.VII,
>> and Gotha & Albatros W-types as a/c covered with the brown...
>>
>> Dave
>> (suffering from a Datafile deficiency)
>>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:42:27 -0600
From: "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Remembrance
Message-ID: <364A2EF3.CBE525BD@wireweb.net>

To my GGG grandfather Conrad Foose, 1777, Sgt Quarter master by
appointment, 2nd Battalion, Berks County (PA) Militia, under Col. Udree.

Signed Oath of Federal Allegiance 1778  in Berks County

Undersheriff Reading PA, 1782 - 1787 and collector of Taxes

In 1784 and 1785 enlisted as Private in the 4th Battalion,  Berks County

Militia in Captain Nagle's Company.

Well done and Thank you, Good Sir,  you helped make my life truly worth
living.  I will never forget.

Your GGG grandson.
Lee J. Mensinger, also a veteran


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:57:48 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Combat report - Bristol F.2b  
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CD7A0512@mimhexch.mim.com.au>


Sustained minor damage to armament prior to take of due to flying toy
soldier (French !) landing on centre section and then Scarff ring. Rapid
repairs allowed take of on time. 

Flew 10km SW to  Sal-is-bury.  Sighted   2  H.A. at approx  21:00 EDT.
H.A. apparently satisfied to observe and no obvious damage sustained.
aircraft will now be retired to storage.


Signed

Shane Weier 

NB:   NOT a bloody Bristol    Must be the end of the war !
Huzzaaaahhhhh !





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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:46:09 EST
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: List members addresses
Message-ID: <2c4c8686.364a2fd1@aol.com>


Dave Zulis
Toronto, CANADA
 
A good moment to chime in with my thanks to this list as well.    Such an
open, friendly and learned group is a gem on the internet, and the postings
are a joy to read each evening.   Thank you all.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:11:12 +0000
From: "David R.L. Laws" <laws@webtime.com.au>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: SITE FOUND - BARGAIN HUNTERS
Message-ID: <364AD060.10EE@webtime.com.au>

http://www.advancenet.net/~srgast/plastics.htm


david

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:28:36 EST
From: Suvoroff@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Combat report - Bristol F.2b
Message-ID: <cc2b1586.364a47d4@aol.com>

"Sustained minor damage to armament prior to take of due to flying toy soldier
(French !)"

One is almost afraid to ask what toy soldiers are doing flying around in your
house.  

Yours,
James D. Gray

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