WWI Digest 1253 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) 1/72 Americal decals for trade by Modelhound@aol.com 2) 1/72 kits for trade by Modelhound@aol.com 3) RE: Introduction by Pedro e Francisca Soares 4) Re: Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon by Bob Pearson 5) RE: Aeroclub Biff: WAS Most Wanted Time? by Shane Weier 6) RE: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out by Pedro e Francisca Soares 7) Re: 'Ducky' photos on the Web by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" 8) Re: Introduction by mbittner@juno.com 9) Wire Gauge by "David Vosburgh" 10) Re: Wire Gauge by "Mark Shanks" 11) Re: Paint sprayers in 1918? by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 12) Re: Wire Gauge by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: Introduction by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 14) Re: air brush by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 15) Hikoki new RNAS book coming..... by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" 16) Re: Paint sprayers in 1918? by "Steven M. Perry" 17) Re: Wire Gauge by David & Carol Fletcher 18) Re: SMALL AIR PACKET POST by "David R.L. Laws" 19) Re: Wire Gauge by "David R.L. Laws" 20) Re: Hikoki new RNAS book coming..... by Bob Pearson 21) RE: SMALL AIR PACKET POST by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 22) Re: odd diorama by mbittner@juno.com 23) Re: odd diorama by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: wrist slashing wasRe: Aeroclub Biff: WAS Most Wanted Time? by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Mr. Duckworth by mbittner@juno.com 26) Re: Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon by "cameron rile" 27) Re: odd diorama by "David Vosburgh" 28) Rib tapes by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" 29) Re: 'Ducky' photos on the Web by Alberto Rada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:48:29 EDT From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi Subject: 1/72 Americal decals for trade Message-ID: I have available several 1/72 Americal decal sheets to trade for 1/48 modeling items of interest, decals, metal parts, photo etch, kits, ?, what have you. Qty. Sheet # Subject 1 13 K.u.K. Tarnstoff 1917-1918 Austrian Hex Pattern Fabric. 1 31 Spatere Balkenkreuz German Straight Cross Natl. Mkgs 1 7/8 6 Five Color Camouflage 1917-1918 bottom 3 6/8 5 Five Color Camouflage 1917-1918 top 6 4 Nachtbombengeschwader Camouflage 1917-1918 (III) 1 37 Four Color Lozenge Camouflage (top) 1 38 Four Color Lozenge Camouflage (bottom) 1 17 altere eiserne Kreuze 1914-1916 German Early Crosses 2 12 grose eiserne Kreuze 1916-1918 Large German Late Crosses 5 1 Kreigsmarine Camouflage 1917-1918 5 25 Alternate 4-color Lozenge (top) 1917-1919 6 2 Nachtbombengeschwader camouflage 1916-1918 (hex Pattern) 10 3 Nachtbombengeschwader camouflage 1917-1918 (irregular) Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA modelhound@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:48:27 EDT From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi Subject: 1/72 kits for trade Message-ID: <72d630e9.362ba59b@aol.com> Hello, I have four C.A.Atkins 1/72 all metal kits available for trade. The first two are: Aviatik (Berg) D.1 Hansa Brandenburg D.1 Both kits are unstarted, complete with all parts, decals, and original box. These kits are little gems and must be seen to be believed. The next two have been started, (some glueing) but are complete with decals but no box. Still very buildable to perfection. I got them this way. Fokker D.VIII Aviatik (Berg) D.1 I will throw in for free an Americal Austrian Hex pattern decal sheet #13 with each Berg kit. What I am looking for in trade is 1/48 vacuform WW-1 or Between the Wars subject kits. Sierra Scale Models, Lone Star, ?, what do you have surplus to your needs? Let's make a deal! Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA modelhound@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:13:52 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Introduction Message-ID: <01BDFBA5.033DCF80@fei1-p11.telepac.pt> -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Henderson [SMTP:sharon@sword.net] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Introduction Hi folks, Looking forward to corresponding with y'all! Hi Sharon, Greetings from Portugal Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:41:51 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon Message-ID: <21415115246978@KAIEN.COM> Cam writes . . . > "ALBATROS D.III (LATE RUDDER) WITH INTERMEDIATE STYLE NATIONAL INSIGNIA. PERSONAL INSIGNIA OF HALF MOON WITH PIPE IS PAINTED > OVER A SWASTIKA WHICH SHOWS THROUGH. (COPIED FROM A > PHOTOGRAPH FPUND ON A GERMAN PRISONER) (LENT BY lIEUT. W F > FELSTEAD) [3/4R S]" > > that is the only incidence it occurs in there and there is no mention of where it was got or anything liek that. out of interest , what colour have u chosen as the fuselage colour? for those that havent been to the awm , the site is at : Cam, I thought it might have been from you... I haven't totally decided on a fuselage colour yet. I am going to ask a few others if they have any ideas. Could be black, could be varnished . . ..could be . . . .. ? Hopefully I will have an answer before we review the Eduard D.III at IM so I can use a profile of it there. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:43:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Aeroclub Biff: WAS Most Wanted Time? Message-ID: Sandy, > I think you get Windsock Shane - if so you will see it on the > cover of the latest issue. Don't have mine yet but I anticipate it this week. But it isn't quite the same as getting up close. > I think the radiator is pretty good. Good. Hiro must have had a dud. > The WS model is beautifully made but unfortunately the angle > of the main > pics catches the upper fuselage seam. This happens all too often. I can expose the seam on almost any model with a camera and proper lighting, no matter how good the modeller. And it happens by accident almost as easily > What a shame when the rest is so good that that one minor > blemish should be so prominent. Indeed Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:18:18 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out Message-ID: <01BDFBA9.129D85C0@fei1-p11.telepac.pt> -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Adam [SMTP:cbbs@almac.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 10:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out Hi Pedro Storks is 20GBP.=20 MCP (Midland Counties Publications) do Europe surface post for 15% - 3.00GBP. They take all cards and e-mail address is: midlandbooks@compuserve.com Stock number is A97817. I have no connection other than as happy customer. HTH Sandy=20 Sandy and Graham, Thanks a lot for your help, After doing some basic maths I come to the conclusion that ordering from = amazon may be slightly cheaper, taking advantage of the lower rate of = the USD and probably faster since it'll be air mail. Guess I'll give it a try Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:31:31 -0500 From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: 'Ducky' photos on the Web Message-ID: <199810192226.RAA20899@mail.primary.net> >nary a lozenge or dayglo Albatros in sight! >Sandy Sandy, Alan and all: Thanks for the kind remarks on the models, I do have a DML DVII being decalled with large B/W diamonds on the fuselage and loz wings but the Aeroclub Fee has to be completed first...now if Alberto could let me borrow his trained spiders he used to complete his rigging I'd be done with the beast by now. It's too bad Lindberg/Glencoe hasn't gotten ahold of the old PYRO molds and re-released the pre-WWI kits. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:26:35 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Introduction Message-ID: <19981019.173415.-218487.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:12:47 -0400 Bob Pearson writes: >Pay Matt no mind here, the best scale is whatever one you are >presently >building. That's what I meant! Trust me. ;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:42:46 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI M.M.L." Subject: Wire Gauge Message-ID: <001301bdfbb1$cb802cc0$16d690d0@Pvosburg> I've been reading Dave Zulis's rigging compendium, and it occured to me to look at a spool of wire I picked up in a crafts store a while ago and then forgot about... it says it's 32 gauge on the spool. Does anybody know what this translates to in inches? I pulled out a piece of Detail Associates .006 wire and this stuff looks to be roughly the same diameter. I had to give it the old steel ruler and glass treatment, but it straightened out nicely, is a dull steel color, and I got about fifty feet (about a half mile of it in 1:48, almost enough for a V/1500 or a Staaken, R.K.!) of it for two bucks. Can't see a brand name, but it was in the section with the beads & little doodads. DV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:22:13 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi Subject: Re: Wire Gauge Message-ID: <9810192325.AA02607@fltdyn.com> Dave Vosburgh writes: > I've been reading Dave Zulis's rigging compendium, and it occured to me to > look at a spool of wire I picked up in a crafts store a while ago and then > forgot about... it says it's 32 gauge on the spool. Does anybody know what > this translates to in inches? I pulled out a piece of Detail Associates .006 > wire and this stuff looks to be roughly the same diameter. > > I had to give it the old steel ruler and glass treatment, but it > straightened out nicely, is a dull steel color, ....>snip< I have a bit of stainless .005 wire from an old, apparently out-of-business source (they used to advertise in FineScale, and sold this stuff by the yard.) But the point I am getting to is that when held taughtly with pliers and passed through a candle flame until red-hot (in other words, tempered), I get a wonderfully straight, dull steel wire, which is very easy to rig with. Gauges....there is an American Wire Gauge and a Standard Wire Gauge. American Wire Gauge (AWG): 32 AWG is .0080 inches in diameter (according to my chart....). Standard Wire Gauge (SWG) is based on British Imperial Wire Gauge (who the blazes makes these things up, *I'd* like to know....). 32 SWG equals .0108 inches. In the Air Force, we used a unit called "RCH", but never mind THAT..... Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:46:41 -0600 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi Subject: Re: Paint sprayers in 1918? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981019174641.006c752c@mail> At 12:51 AM 19/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-10-19 00:26:45 EDT, you write: > ><< Okay this may seem a really stupid question ,but: Were paint sprayers >in > > general use during WW I? >> > >The idea of spray painting has been around for a long time- mouth atomizers >have been used for good golly I don't know how long. A long time. Prehistoric man used something like a mouth-atomizer to blow pigment on cave walls. >The first US patent for >an airbrush is from 1888. The famous pinup artist Vargas first picked up an >airbrush in the late 1890s- spray guns for big jobs such as airplanes couldn't >have been too much of a strange idea by the time WW I rolled around. >Robert K. > Didn't Albatros fighters have their mauve & green sprayed on? Also, the demarcations in my Roland datafile look very blurry. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:55:29 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Wire Gauge Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-19 19:32:43 EDT, you write: << In the Air Force, we used a unit called "RCH", but never mind THAT..... Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com >> A very handy unit when scratch building- and for finer work, you can use the LRCH RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:01:08 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi Subject: Re: Introduction Message-ID: <362bd132.1873411@legend.firstsaga.com> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:20:55 -0400, you wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sharon Henderson [SMTP:sharon@sword.net] >Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:18 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Introduction > >Hi folks, > > >Looking forward to corresponding with y'all! > > > Hi Sharon, Greetings and welcome from another VA resident. Although I once lived in the Warrenton area for a few years I now live in Prince George County. You'll find the members of this list to be absolutely amazing most of the time...the rest of the time we digress in subtle fits of humor of the dumbest nature, which I happily enjoy. nb: Time to weather the Whippet and start final assembly of the W.29 ! At long last I seem to be on the road to recovery. It's a crime to neglect all those models waiting in the wings....(no pun intended). Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:07:01 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi Subject: Re: air brush Message-ID: <362cd2e4.2307647@legend.firstsaga.com> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:48:17 -0400, you wrote: > > >mkendix wrote: > >> Listees: >> >> I am considering purchasing an "Air brush" but have never used one >> before. I would like to know if there are sources of information or >> product reviews I might find. I would also appreciate any other input >> and advice. My local hobyy shop has 2 Testors' Air Brush kits for $28 >> and $57. What do you get for more money? >> Over the years I mostly relied on an old Badger 350 but I currently have a Badger 200 and one of the Testor/Aztec rigs. If you are new to airbrushing you may want to try the Testor/Aztec out. Cleaning them is about as simple as it gets with airbrushes. Also I have had no trouble spraying Polly Scale and other acrylics using the general purpose nozzle. The $28.00 one may be the single action, external mix....avoid this if at all possible. The other is probably a single action with internal mix, a big difference. Although I've never use a double action airbrush they probably give you the greatest control. Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:35:40 -0500 From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" To: "ww1list" Subject: Hikoki new RNAS book coming..... Message-ID: <199810200031.TAA02540@mail.primary.net> I received a replacement dust jacket today from Hikoki Publishing as mine arrived at my local hobby shop with a T-Rex bite out of the back of it. Enclosed in the mailing tube was a letter from Barry Ketley, Managing Director Hikoki Publications, announcing a sequel to their Royal Naval Air Service book. The new book is "provisionally titled" (his words) 'RNAS at War'. Contains official communiques, Orders of Battle, operations logs and personal accounts. Also "somewhere in the region of 300 photos......None of this material has been published before". Barry didn't give an expected publish date but will ask him to keep me updated so I can pass it along to the list. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:35:33 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi Subject: Re: Paint sprayers in 1918? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981019203533.0076b6a4@pop.mindspring.com> At 07:49 PM 10/19/98 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:51 AM 19/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >>In a message dated 98-10-19 00:26:45 EDT, you write: >> >><< Okay this may seem a really stupid question ,but: Were paint sprayers >>in >> > general use during WW I? >> >> >>The idea of spray painting has been around for a long time- mouth atomizers >>have been used for good golly I don't know how long. > >A long time. Prehistoric man used something like a mouth-atomizer to blow >pigment on cave walls. > >>The first US patent for >>an airbrush is from 1888. The famous pinup artist Vargas first picked up an >>airbrush in the late 1890s- spray guns for big jobs such as airplanes >couldn't >>have been too much of a strange idea by the time WW I rolled around. >>Robert K. >> > >Didn't Albatros fighters have their mauve & green sprayed on? Also, the >demarcations in my Roland datafile look very blurry. > > >Dane > FWIW: Purnell's History of the World Wars Series, The First War Planes says the Mauve & Green Camo was sprayed on. sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:39:06 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi Subject: Re: Wire Gauge Message-ID: <362BDBAA.6D5D@mars.ark.com> David Vosburgh wrote: "..it occured to me to look at a spool of wire I picked up in a crafts store a while ago and then forgot about... it says it's 32 gauge on the spool..." If you ever figure out a trade name or whatever, let the rest of us know! I have used 5 Amp. fuse wire with success - but it is only obtainable in the UK as far as I know, as the rest of the world screws in fuses or uses circuit breakers. Since I am now about as far away from the UK as possible and still be in the Commonwealth, without being an Aussie or a Kiwi, fuse wire is proving difficult to obtain. Any Brits on the list know a source? - other than those silly little cards with three or four grades in British Ironmongers... Back to your original question: 32 gauge is .007 in the American or Brown & Sharpe AWG, .012 in the Washburn & Moen W & MG, .009 in the Birmingham or Stub's Iron Wire BWG and .010 in the U.S. Standard for Plate USG. That's all according to the "Standard Aircraft Handbook". Now aren't you glad you asked? Personally, I think 'thin wire' just about meets my level of precision. Dave Fletcher mdf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:28:19 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: SMALL AIR PACKET POST Message-ID: <362C73D3.695@webtime.com.au> Greetings all Any of y'all Stateside able to help and advise a poor old bloke on the other side of the Pacific on some details concerning " Small Air Packet " post Appreciate details about ... 1. if there's some minimum and/or guaranteed delivery time, 2. whether undelivered goods would be returned to sender, 3. if these goods actually do go by air 4. whether the sender is issued with a dated reciept SHON HOWELL GOODS STILL HAVEN'T ARRIVED HERE - ALLEGEDLY SENT c. 8/9/98 from western side of USA . Was informed by Howell that a 3 week delivery period was anticipated ... You may recall that Mr Howell banked my money back in very early August . It then took him another month to actually send the goods ( or so he says ) .... what do reckon boys, time to call in the FEDS ? DAVID PS Mike, I'll get back to you when I have some answers to the above - Thanks for your recent help and advice - Delay to reverting to you owing to some further attempts to get to the bottom of this before going really ballistic ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:44:20 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Wire Gauge Message-ID: <362C7794.6E66@webtime.com.au> Dave If you are chasing fuse wire let me know off-list - We are still a wee bit " primative " here in Australia and the stuff's readily obtainable at the local hardware PS Any of the Braille Brigade tried that really fine copper wire from multistranded telephone wiring for their flying and landing wires - Makes decent cockpit control wire cabling in WW1 types 1:48 too ! It's also useful as engine wiring harness and other similar wiring detailing ( suitably coloured/ painted ) in other more recent types of a/c too ! DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:38:25 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Hikoki new RNAS book coming..... Message-ID: <01382538347583@KAIEN.COM> I received a replacement dust jacket today from Hikoki Publishing as mine > arrived at my local hobby shop with a T-Rex bite out of the back of it. > Enclosed in the mailing tube was a letter from Barry Ketley, Managing > Director Hikoki Publications, announcing a sequel to their Royal Naval Air > Service book. The new book is "provisionally titled" (his words) 'RNAS at > War'. Contains official communiques, Orders of Battle, operations logs and > personal accounts. Also "somewhere in the region of 300 photos......None > of this material has been published before". Barry didn't give an > expected publish date but will ask him to keep me updated so I can pass it > along to the list. > > Charlie COOL !! Ijust hope that they don't have any of the photos I planned on using for my articles on the RNAS . . . . and if only they would let me do the profiles for their books (an RNAS Ni.21 with a Vickers indeed !!!!!) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:38:40 -0500 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: SMALL AIR PACKET POST Message-ID: <01BDFBA0.7817B280.panz-meador@vsti.com> david: check out the following URL: http://www.usps.gov/ and go to "post office"; there you will find information on postage rates from the US to international sites including, yes, australia. as well, there should be estimated delivery times (naturaly, the more $s, the faster it's supposed to get there...) and shipping details. don't know if a receipt is issued; probably not, unless one is requested by the sender (i.e., a cash register receipt with official date stamp). however, i DO know that packages going to foreign shores require a customs certificate be filled out. this is a multi-part form, if i recall correctly, and the contents of the package are described. note that i believe the post office retains the copy, NOT the sender. however, i'd wager there aren't that many packages being sent from san antonio, texas, to australia => contacting the MAN at the post office might be a good idea. sorry to hear about this. after your earlier inquiries, i (somewhat rel uctantly) sent of 20$ for four books, and they arrived safely and fairly promptly. good luck in tracking this down and, again, regrets for your aggrivation. phillip -----Original Message----- From: David R.L. Laws [SMTP:laws@webtime.com.au] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 8:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: SMALL AIR PACKET POST Greetings all Any of y'all Stateside able to help and advise a poor old bloke on the other side of the Pacific on some details concerning " Small Air Packet " post Appreciate details about ... 1. if there's some minimum and/or guaranteed delivery time, 2. whether undelivered goods would be returned to sender, 3. if these goods actually do go by air 4. whether the sender is issued with a dated reciept SHON HOWELL GOODS STILL HAVEN'T ARRIVED HERE - ALLEGEDLY SENT c. 8/9/98 from western side of USA . Was informed by Howell that a 3 week delivery period was anticipated ... You may recall that Mr Howell banked my money back in very early August . It then took him another month to actually send the goods ( or so he says ) .... what do reckon boys, time to call in the FEDS ? DAVID PS Mike, I'll get back to you when I have some answers to the above - Thanks for your recent help and advice - Delay to reverting to you owing to some further attempts to get to the bottom of this before going really ballistic ! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:05:20 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: odd diorama Message-ID: <19981019.210525.-303379.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:43:42 -0400 KarrArt@aol.com writes: >Yesterday at OrangeCon, I picked up a bunch of old IPMS US Journals. >On the >back cover of Vol6 No1 Nov '93 was a photo of a most strange diorama. >I'm >wondering if anybody knows anything about it. Done by a Steve Lawson >of Denver >it shows a Staaken R VI as the main attraction at a fair or carnival. >In the >midst of a "county fair"setting there sits this giant airplane, >surrounded in >its squaty splendor by a merry-go-round, shooting gallery tent, >animals, a >ferris wheel, and a HUGE crowd. It's a small photo and difficult to >see all >the detail, but it looks surreralistically marvelous...and the Staaken >itself >looks to be VERY well done. I used to convers with Mr. Lawsom when I first started to study Jacobs. He was translating his diary (which has been published in both OtF and C&CI) at the time. First rate gent! At the '94 Nats he entered the "Collection Category" with something like 12 DML Dr.I's (or were they D.VII's?). Nicely done!! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:52:22 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: odd diorama Message-ID: <5aac220d.362becd6@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-19 13:01:41 EDT, panz-meador@vsti.com writes: << no doubt based on the activites of the "fletcher's world" R.VI; was it so marked? phillip -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com [SMTP:KarrArt@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: odd diorama Yesterday at OrangeCon, I picked up a bunch of old IPMS US Journals. On the back cover of Vol6 No1 Nov '93 was a photo of a most strange diorama. I'm wondering if anybody knows anything about it. Done by a Steve Lawson of Denver it shows a Staaken R VI as the main attraction at a fair or carnival. In the midst of a "county fair"setting there sits this giant airplane, surrounded in its squaty splendor by a merry-go-round, shooting gallery tent, animals, a ferris wheel, and a HUGE crowd. It's a small photo and difficult to see all the detail, but it looks surreralistically marvelous...and the Staaken itself looks to be VERY well done. Robert K.>> No "fletcher's world" painted on the side, just "standard" hand painted geometric shapes on night colors and normal national markings. Among the scattered circus animals are also several other German planes- all single engine, some with out wings. This is one weird piece, but I love it! Robert k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:52:23 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: wrist slashing wasRe: Aeroclub Biff: WAS Most Wanted Time? Message-ID: <689be4ce.362becd7@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-19 12:55:52 EDT, PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: << Unfortunately Robert, you can't pick your competition at a contest. If = you'd left them at home, no one would've entered anything in the scratchbui= lt category (you know, Murphy's Law?). We all lose sometimes, but just so = it is done fairly and the winner actually deserves it--sounds like you = think so, and you show a lot of class in saying that. I for one would = still like to see your Blenhiem when you get around to scanning photos! Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> This 'dozer-truck model truly deserved to win. But I still had fun! Also, at some point, the Blenheim will appear someplace. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:25:37 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Mr. Duckworth Message-ID: <19981019.212538.-280139.0.mbittner@juno.com> Charles models are amazing! Can anybody guess which one is my favorite? :-) However, coming a very close second is the MoS Type G. Great work! Can you tell me again how you did the rib tapes on the Nie.17? Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:43:35 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon Message-ID: <199810191937471@cameron.prontomail.com> Bob, >>>>thought it might have been from you... I haven't totally decided on a fuselage colour yet. I am going to ask a few others if they have any ideas. Could be black, could be varnished . . ..could be . . . .. ? Hopefully I will have an answer before we review the Eduard D.III at IM so I can use a profile of it there.<<<<< I was going to do a scheme of it for RBII but couldnt decide what colour it was. I was thinking middle blue wash , didnt do it though cos it was just a guess. Damn my ignorance hahahahha , be interested to see your profile on it and the colour choices when u do it. cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:59:25 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: odd diorama Message-ID: <001901bdfbd5$a6747de0$10d690d0@Pvosburg> Could it be... and this is too weird even for my sense of humor... that it's a diorama of a "flying circus"? (Did I just fall into a trap of some sort? I already apologized for the cow thing...) Dave -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 1:35 AM Subject: Re: odd diorama Among the >scattered circus animals are also several other German planes- all single >engine, some with out wings. This is one weird piece, but I love it! >Robert k. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:16:23 -0500 From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Rib tapes Message-ID: <199810200311.WAA24191@mail.primary.net> > Can you tell me again how you did the rib tapes on the Nie.17? Matt, paint your base color (ie., silver grey) on the wings and let dry for a few days. Then take a pair of dividers and determine the area 'between' the rib tapes. Using drafting tape, cut enough pieces to cover the wing (cord-wise) leaving a space where the rib tape would be (2"). Mix up a lighter mixture of the base color and brush paint between the two pieces of tape. When the tape is removed you'll have your wing tapes (the paint will even have a slight edge. I painted this a/c with acrylics and when I pulled the tape up along came the paint in several places, I have never had this problem with Floquil model RR paint lifting off the plastic but it may have been the nature of the acrylic being applied directly on plastic and not a primer first looking back I think I would have done it in Floquil. When done if the color of the tapes is too light for your tastes you can lightly airbrush your base color over them to tone them down. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:05:38 -0700 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: 'Ducky' photos on the Web Message-ID: <362C2832.FC8C6952@argonaut.net> Hi Charles Really great photos of great models MORE . . . . MORE . . . saludos Alberto p.d. Ofcourse I can lend you the Spider, but you'll have to pay the airfare, b.t.w. she only travels United ( trying to get mileage ) Allan Wright wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Sorry sor the cheeky subject line - I couldn't resist. Charles Duckworth > just sent me a bunch of great photos of his models which I put on-line > on the web page in the usual place - the model galleries section of the > Images page. Check them out - they're really nice models - I think the > Deperdussin is my favorite - for the subject mostly....... I love those > old crates! > > -Allan > > =============================================================================== > Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1253 **********************