WWI Digest 1249 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Why Wait! by "Peter Crow" 2) Re: Most Wanted by "David Vosburgh" 3) Re: figures by "David Vosburgh" 4) Re: Pegasus Web Site URL by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 5) Re: figures by "Steven M. Perry" 6) Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon by Bob Pearson 7) Re: figures by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: Most Wanted (SVA5) by David & Carol Fletcher 9) cow accessory type material wasRe: figures by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: now for the Spinne by KarrArt@aol.com 11) cow wasRe: figures by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: WWI Sub Chaser by KarrArt@aol.com 13) SVA5 wasRe: Most Wanted by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Re: WWI Sub Chaser by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: now for the Spinne by "Paul Bourke" 16) Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures by Zulis@aol.com 17) Re: now for the Spinne by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: Most Wanted Time? by "David R.L. Laws" 19) Re: Most Wanted Time? by "David R.L. Laws" 20) Re: Flycatcher, was BUILDING VAC FORM KITS by "David R.L. Laws" 21) Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out by "David R.L. Laws" 22) Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Most Wanted Time? - Pfalz DVIII by Bob Pearson 24) Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: now for the Spinne by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III by infosilver@czechia.com 27) Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out by infosilver@czechia.com 28) Re: CMK Figures by infosilver@czechia.com 29) Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out by infosilver@czechia.com 30) RE: figures by Pedro e Francisca Soares 31) Re: Most Wanted Time? by "Sandy Adam" 32) Re: cow accessory by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 33) Re: Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III by Bob Pearson 34) Re: Most Wanted Time?( BM plastic) by "Peter Crow" 35) Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures by "David Vosburgh" 36) RE: Airbrushes by "David Vosburgh" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:58:27 PDT From: "Peter Crow" To: wwi Subject: RE: Why Wait! Message-ID: <19981017235827.29125.qmail@hotmail.com> Pedro wrote... >Pete,=20 > >Who knows, You could learn to subliminally entice Barry to put an >even bigger discount on Eduard kits. My advice is if it's so damn close,>you go there and report your experience back to us, ;- Actually, I'm going over to David Sterner's (another list member) for dinner in about an hour, and he lives about 4 miles away and the place is between here and there.. Figure I'll slowly drive by and check it out.. wonder if they give a 10% discount to list members also?? ;-) Peter nb.. maybe a new and wonderful relationship at a discount..;-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:21:32 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Most Wanted Message-ID: <001a01bdfa35$a5dbd460$0cd690d0@Pvosburg> Never bought the SMER kit, on the assumption that it was a.) off-scale, and b.) probably on a level with their Bulldog . Who made the original? DV -----Original Message----- From: Joey Valenciano To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 7:36 PM Subject: RE: Most Wanted > >>1:48 injection SVA 5 (with optional floats even, maybe?) > >FWIW, although notesd as 1/50 scale, the Smer SVA5 fuselage compares very >well with the Datafile's 1/48 scale drawing. But you'll have to build new >wings. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:40:53 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: figures Message-ID: <003701bdfa38$59cf1ca0$0cd690d0@Pvosburg> Robert: This sounds like an omen to me, aside from the hot pink part. And just think, it would be fairly simple to model some 1:48 cow accessory-type material out of Milliput to go in the grass... Just by the way, has anyone ever stopped to think how lucky we all are that the Germans didn't have Day-Glo colors in WWI? DV -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 8:03 PM Subject: Re: figures >Believe it or not, for some time I've had a great 1/48 cow stashed away for >this very purpose- it was in a bag of hard styrene "O" Railroad scale farm >animals- molded in bright psychedelic pink! >Robert K. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:49:00 -0600 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi Subject: Re: Pegasus Web Site URL Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981017194900.006d0354@mail> At 06:54 AM 17/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >its not up yet but will be >www.pegasusmodels.com >sandy > > It's not actually active, but it is up. If you type in this address, you will get to a site called "main index." It's worth going there just to bookmark it so that you can find it easily when it is active. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:57:24 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi Subject: Re: figures Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981017215724.006b1334@pop.mindspring.com> At 09:42 PM 10/17/98 -0400, you wrote: >Just by the way, has anyone ever stopped to think how lucky we all are that >the Germans didn't have Day-Glo colors in WWI? > >DV ROTFL. The hippies were dangerous enough with Day-Glo. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:13:09 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Albatros D.III(OAW) Man in moon Message-ID: <02130984643099@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, Sometime back someone sent me a photo of an Albatros D.III(OAW) with a marking similiar to von Buttlar's Pfalz D.III man in the moon - except this one has bubbles coming out of the pipe and an overpainted swastika on the fuselage. It also has reworked fat Balkenkreuze on the rudder and fin. Does anyone remember where it came from? The file name is Albatros45384.jpg. I plan to profile it shortly, and would like more information if possible. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:34:27 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: figures Message-ID: <62b341c8.362953b3@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 22:21:05 EDT, you write: << >Just by the way, has anyone ever stopped to think how lucky we all are that >the Germans didn't have Day-Glo colors in WWI? > >> AND the British training units! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:36:15 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi Subject: Re: Most Wanted (SVA5) Message-ID: <3629541F.4F8A@mars.ark.com> David Vosburgh wrote: "Never bought the SMER kit, on the assumption that it was a.) off-scale, and b.) probably on a level with their Bulldog . Who made the original?" The SVA5 was made by Artiplast, who took over the Merit dies and added a few kits of their own (CR32, Reggiane Re2000, Sm.79 etc.) Dave Fletcher mdf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:34:26 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures Message-ID: <9b0d4639.362953b2@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 22:19:06 EDT, you write: << Robert: This sounds like an omen to me, aside from the hot pink part. And just think, it would be fairly simple to model some 1:48 cow accessory-type material out of Milliput to go in the grass... >> Uh, well, for a bit of ( I hope) forgiven self promotion, go to http://members.aol.com/karrart and check out my Jenny diorama- scroll down till you see "Jenny", click,and it'll take you to my previous bovine extravaganza- complete with "cow accessory-type material" AND a dog showing what he thinks of the venerable JN-4. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:50 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: now for the Spinne Message-ID: <9ad31385.3629578a@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 11:05:00 EDT, you write: << > E. There's a photo of a Spinne model in the recently arrived Windsock 14,no.5. It looks like an "ultra light". Steve S. >> very ultra-lightish indeed! the "fuselage" is just a stick. It's got some wooly lookin' radiators though. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:47 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: cow wasRe: figures Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-17 16:43:29 EDT, you write: << > >Don't forget the vicious guardcow standing watch. > The "Line Bossie" sp >> unh....( I can't spell a groan) RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:41 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Sub Chaser Message-ID: <8e9e608b.36295781@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 18:39:06 EDT, you write: << On the I've got a question side I noticed an add in the latest SAMI for the Williams Bros kits. Included were the large Le Rhone rotary engine and the Lewis machine gun. Has Williams Bros put them back into production ? If so, does anyone know of a stateside source ? >> Whenever Williams Brothers releases or re-releases, I usually have no trouble finding their stuff- some drug stores around even has the product line. If their big gun and engine models are back in production, 'tis a happy day! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:35 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: SVA5 wasRe: Most Wanted Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-17 21:22:41 EDT, you write: << Never bought the SMER kit, on the assumption that it was a.) off-scale, and b.) probably on a level with their Bulldog . Who made the original?>> Maybe Artiplast- a 1960s Italian model manufacturer? Their ancient SM 79Sparviero trimoter has shown up as a Smer kit, and a few others I believe. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:44 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Sub Chaser Message-ID: <96eb48b4.36295784@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 18:39:06 EDT, you write: << Robert's last masterpiece really provided the motivation I needed. Now to pull out that FT17 and start planning. Len >> I'm blushing! Tomorrow is OrangeCon98 which is also an IPMS regional, so the Handley Page has at least one more show to go to- it'll be accompanied by the newly finished 1/32 Blenheim and reworked Revell 1/28 Fokker D VII. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:22:14 +1000 From: "Paul Bourke" To: Subject: Re: now for the Spinne Message-ID: <199810180019.KAA15340@magna.com.au> Are you talking about the series of aircraft that was predecessor to the Eindecker? What variant are you scratch building? Paul ---------- > From: S.M.Sundberg > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: now for the Spinne > Date: Sunday, 18 October 1998 1:01 > > Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > > KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > I've just finished my...ahem....uh....off topic 1/32 Blenheim, so now I can > > > get on to a scratchbuilt 1/48 Fokker Spinne! Yippee! A Spinne is so unlike a > > > Blenheim that my mind is already starting to cleanse itself! > > > Robert K. > > > > What's a Spinne look like anyway? And speaking of 1/48 scratchbuilt > > stuff, didn't you do a 1/48 Bleriot? Got any notes That I could throw > > in the Pyro box for a not too distant project? > > E. > There's a photo of a Spinne model in the recently arrived Windsock > 14,no.5. It looks like an "ultra light". > > Steve S. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:31:29 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures Message-ID: <7cc923cf.36296111@aol.com> This cow business intrigued me, so I took a look at a bunch of old cow pictures. I notice that a significant number of them have a splotchy camoflage pattern. It appears to be in black and white but, of course, this is probably just the effect of orthographic film. I suppose it would be too much to hope for an authentic methuen colour match? perhaps a scrap of holy relic leather from the period? Feeling punchy on a Saturday night, Dave Zulis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:15:20 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: now for the Spinne Message-ID: <9b0d75b9.36296b58@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 23:30:41 EDT, you write: << Are you talking about the series of aircraft that was predecessor to the Eindecker? What variant are you scratch building? Paul >> I guess you could say it was the pre-prepredecessor to the Eindekker series. It was Anthony Fokker's first airplane- predating the war by a few years- a stationary engined monoplane that's all wires and insect parts. I also think it was the first plane to fly in the Netherlands. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:50:47 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Most Wanted Time? Message-ID: <3626D0A4.7DCD@webtime.com.au> In 1/48 > Fdh GIII ( with IIIa option ) Gotha G IV and V Fdh 33 or any currently un-injec-moulded German W type Sopwith Dolphin Albatros D.I/II Short I84 Hanriot HD.1 with HD 2 Option DAVID ( IN ANTICIPATION - I CAN COUNT BUT THE WANTS LIST EXCEEDS THE SPECIFIED LIMIT ! ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:52:04 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Most Wanted Time? Message-ID: <3626D0F1.643F@webtime.com.au> ... Plus a decent Spad VII ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:05:18 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Flycatcher, was BUILDING VAC FORM KITS Message-ID: <3626D40A.3198@webtime.com.au> Dave Thanks !!! Sold ..., well almost ... Well I'd reckon the best Deal would be trade - If you agree then you might have a wish List - If you were to let me know the top 3 -5 items I can let you know whether I can fill the Bill from this end by supplying one of your top selections and you can say if you'd be happy with it as a trade Feel free to go off topic for your wish list too !! FYI the Lindberg range sells here at about $15-17 (Au) with Eduard at $30ish ( usually on the plus side of that ) that's if you prefer filthy lucre. Hey, wev'e all got to live ! Many thanks David Yes the Post rates are horrible at this end too ! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:08:43 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out Message-ID: <3626D4D7.F57@webtime.com.au> Any kind hearted type able to supply THE grub street URL - Usual search pulls a huge List of their books but no obvious Home page TIA DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:34:39 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures Message-ID: <36297DEF.DC2@bellsouth.net> Zulis@aol.com wrote: > > This cow business intrigued me, so I took a look at a bunch of old cow > pictures. > > I notice that a significant number of them have a splotchy camoflage pattern. > It appears to be in black and white but, of course, this is probably just the > effect of orthographic film. I suppose it would be too much to hope for an > authentic methuen colour match? perhaps a scrap of holy relic leather from > the period? ROTFL E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:42:06 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Most Wanted Time? - Pfalz DVIII Message-ID: <05420608243429@KAIEN.COM> Sandy writes . . . > > Looking again at the pic in Windsock 11/4 of Forstmann's Jasta90 (sorry!) > > crash - I can't decide whether the tail colour is the same as the dark > > (black?) band or slighlty lighter - it seems darker to me than the shadow > > side of the fin and I would think from this print that it had a dark - > > probably black - tail. Maybe of course there are other prints of the same > > pic or other pics that would decide this one way or the other. I checked > > the web page and see that the modeller (Steve Hustad) has chosen to > believe > > it had a half black and half white tail. > > I still think that the darker colour is due to the curve of the fuselage. In > any case I will ask Greg VW about this a/c next time I talk to him. I just went back to Greg's drawing of it and he has the tailplane as being darker than the fin - perhaps a dark grey. And looking at the profile I did of it last month, I see the same thing. regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:26:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures Message-ID: <90b1c721.36298a30@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-17 23:43:11 EDT, you write: << This cow business intrigued me, so I took a look at a bunch of old cow pictures. I notice that a significant number of them have a splotchy camoflage pattern. It appears to be in black and white but, of course, this is probably just the effect of orthographic film. I suppose it would be too much to hope for an authentic methuen colour match? perhaps a scrap of holy relic leather from the period? Feeling punchy on a Saturday night, Dave Zulis>> Does Punchy like it? RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:26:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: now for the Spinne Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-17 03:54:53 EDT, you write: << What's a Spinne look like anyway? And speaking of 1/48 scratchbuilt stuff, didn't you do a 1/48 Bleriot? Got any notes That I could throw in the Pyro box for a not too distant project? E. >> Yep- I did a 1/48 Bleriot. I gathered all my material, drew my own drawings( crude affairs on typing paper, but sloppily accurate.) THEN I got my hands on one of the Pyro kits- the parts matched my drawings almost perfectly. From the kit I used the prop and engine, suitably cleaned up and detailed, but the parts are really pretty good from the box, being a little incomplete rather than inaccurate. I scratched the wings from clear styrene, fishing line and Floquil Crystal Coat and did the fuselage from bamboo sticks, rigged with invisible thread. The kit fuselage is pretty accurate, but needs thinning down and it looks like if you were to get all the parts thin enough, it would collapse under its own weight. The wings are gorgeous- if I were to make another one, I'd probavly try to vac thin plastic right over the kit parts so I could get that translucent effect. Oh yeah- I did use after-market spoked wheels, but I forget who made them- might have been Tom's ModelWorks, but I don't know. Let's see, what else. The kit is a little simplfied in the area right behind the engine- there's quite a bit of plumbing here, and getting the Anzani exhausts just right is kinda tricky. Out of the box with some judicious painting to somehow simulate that light- through-the-fabric magic, the kit's a winner. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 11:02:54 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III Message-ID: Hi all, I just placed short information with sprues and decals pictures at http://www.czechia.com/silverbird/wwi I remember having seen Frommherz's 'Blaue Maus' somewhere on the Web. Could anybody be so kind and advice an URL? TIA Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 10:00:15 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out Message-ID: Forgot to quote distributor address for friends from down under: Capricorn Link (Australia) Pty Ltd. PO Box 6651 Baulkham Hills Business Centre NSW 2153, Australia Tel.: 612 9899 8322 Fax: 612 9899 8221 Forrester Books NZ Ltd. 10 Tarndale Grove Albany Private Bag 102907 North Shore Mail Centre Auckland, New Zealand Tel.: 649 415 2080 Fax: 649 415 2083 Ivan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 11:01:16 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: Re: CMK Figures Message-ID: Hi all, just posted some CMK WWI figures pictures to my WWI page. If interested check http://www.czechia.com/silverbird/wwi Cheers! Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 09:51:08 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Grubb Street 'Storks' is out Message-ID: Grub Street Ltd. do not have a website as of Oct 10, 1998 when I was discussing publishing rights for some OT titles at Frakfurt (Germany) Book Fair with Mr. J. Davies. You can contact them at: Grub Street Ltd. The Basement 10 Chivalry Rd. London SW11 1HT, U.K. Tel.: +44 171 924 3966 +44 171 738 1008 Fax: +44 171 738 1009 They do mail order when their titles can not be obtained at the place customer resides, requesting full retail price + GBP 3.00 per hardback/2.00 per paperback (information from catalogue) U.S. Distributor: Seven Hills Book Distributors 49 Central Ave Cincinnati Ohio 45202, U.S.A. Tel.: 513 381 3881 Fax: 513 381 0735 Cheers! Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:41:58 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: figures Message-ID: <01BDFA7B.C9B44D40@fei1-p8.telepac.pt> -----Original Message----- From: Joey Valenciano [SMTP:joeyval@philonline.com.ph] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 1998 9:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: figures At 07:02 PM 10/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >If you ever want to do, say, an equivalent Jasta 5 diorama I'd be willing to >donate all the figures I've got squirreled away, herr DioramaMeister... Don't forget the vicious guardcow standing watch. No chance with that one, Joey, the cow is probably copyrighted... maybe if you could contact her legal heirs... Pedro ( hidding fast :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:20:44 -0700 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Most Wanted Time? Message-ID: <199810181021.LAA05391@beryl.sol.co.uk> > .......... and the Blue Max fuselage is great, but buying it just to get the > fuselage is a waste, especially since the rest of the kit is merely ok and the > plastic is pretty cheesy. > Robert K. I agree with your view of BM plastic - I prefer just about every other grade used in kits - yet I've spoken about exactly this to Chris Gannon and he says that he has the soft stuff specially made for him - at extra expense - because his feedback is that modellers prefer it! Certainly it's easy to gouge out the thick cockpit interiors with this cheesy stuff but for external finish I think it's awful. Does anybody on our list actually like it? Maybe we can give him some feedback when his site is up (and running). Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:33:51 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi Subject: Re: cow accessory Message-ID: <3629c2eb.27372379@legend.firstsaga.com> On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:29:47 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-10-17 23:43:11 EDT, you write: > > I notice that a significant number of them have a splotchy camoflage pattern. > It appears to be in black and white but, of course, this is probably just the > effect of orthographic film. Just in....cow modeler hit w/lawsuit by a certain computer manufacturer for copyright infringement. When questioned the modeler would only say: " I think the whole thing is udderly ridiculous". Also...I found most of all the Williams Bros kits at Roll Models. Not feeling punchy because she doesn't like it... Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:57:31 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III Message-ID: <10573168643623@KAIEN.COM> Ivan, The Blaue Maus can be seen at http://www.overthefront.com/SiteMill.html/07JastaBoelcke.html Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: infosilver@czechia.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:21:11 -0400 > > Hi all, > > I just placed short information with sprues and decals pictures at > > http://www.czechia.com/silverbird/wwi > > I remember having seen Frommherz's 'Blaue Maus' somewhere on the Web. > Could anybody be so kind and advice an URL? > > TIA > > Ivan Subrt > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:04:02 PDT From: "Peter Crow" To: wwi Subject: Re: Most Wanted Time?( BM plastic) Message-ID: <19981018130402.11211.qmail@hotmail.com> ......>cheesy stuff but for external finish I think it's awful. Does anybody on >our list actually like it? Maybe we can give him some feedback when his >site is up (and running). >Sandy > Count me in on the negative side.. having done two of their kits (DH-2 & Pfalz D-XII), I think the plastic is the worst part of the kit.. lack of clear info on the instruction sheets would be my only other complaint.. P. Crow.. up early with a slight hangover after a great dinner at a fellow list members house.. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:07:49 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures Message-ID: <003601bdfaa0$b16c0640$11d690d0@Pvosburg> According to my sources, the German cow-camo was actually a two-tone scheme of light unbleached cowhide (FS17855) and hot pink (FS38903), which of course on orthographic film reads as black. So R.K.s O-gauge cow is more accurate than might be apparent from first glance. Unfortunately when NASM restored their original "Muhkuh" (NAM 678, Cat. No. 1950-92) back in the mid-Seventies the firm which printed the covering ran out of the proper inks and substituted black and white, figuring that nobody would notice. They didn't... (not that it mattered, since most of it mysteriously vanished and later turned up in a tag sale at Karl Schneide's house) so now it's become Gospel and everybody makes their WWI German cows look just like the one in D.C.. I'm working on a profile now. Anybody got Ray Rimell's fax number? DV -----Original Message----- From: Zulis@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 3:09 AM Subject: Re: cow accessory type material wasRe: figures > >This cow business intrigued me, so I took a look at a bunch of old cow >pictures. > >I notice that a significant number of them have a splotchy camoflage pattern. >It appears to be in black and white but, of course, this is probably just the >effect of orthographic film. I suppose it would be too much to hope for an >authentic methuen colour match? perhaps a scrap of holy relic leather from >the period? > >Feeling punchy on a Saturday night, > >Dave Zulis > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:37:44 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI M.M.L." Subject: RE: Airbrushes Message-ID: <000c01bdfaa4$df565700$10d690d0@Pvosburg> A couple of weeks back Matt wrote that he was using a Thayer & Chandler Vega 2000... I just got a catalog from a place called BearAir Express in Natick, MA which has a "Vega 2000 Delux Kit" with 3 tips, 6' hose, jars, etc. for $57. Problem is that on the T&C cross-reference chart they print only the 1000GF (also $57, but no goodies)is listed as being able to handle enamels. Anybody know why this might be? The prices seem to be pretty good on Iwata, Paasche, et al. as well. If anybody wants the address/phone # let me know off-list. BTW, sorry about the cow thing... DV ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1249 **********************