WWI Digest 1245

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: New Eduards
	by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley)
  2) A Decal Find in Mobile AL
	by "John Glaser" <JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net>
  3) Pegasus Web site?
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
  4) Re: Decal prep?
	by "Douglas R. Jones" <djones@iex.com>
  5) Re: New Eduards
	by BStett3770@aol.com
  6) Re: Decal prep?
	by Bob Johnson <robjohn@worldnet.att.net>
  7) Re: Pegasus Web site?
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
  8) D.VIII Colors
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
  9) Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
	by The Shannons <shingend@ix.netcom.com>
 10) Re: D.VIII Colors
	by The Shannons <shingend@ix.netcom.com>
 11) Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 12) Re: D.VIII Colors
	by Modelhound@aol.com
 13) Introducing APMA's new magazine Editor
	by Shane& Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
 14) Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
 15) Re: Introducing APMA's new magazine Editor
	by Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:47:17 -0500
From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: New Eduards
Message-ID: <v01530502b24b1245ef45@[207.34.203.224]>

>Hi
>
>Hanants lists the Voisin III as a 1/48  ?
>
>SALUDOS
>
>Alberto
>


No, as far as I've heard, it's a 1/72 - along with a taube, strutters,
w.29, and other goodies for us 1/72 types coming over the next year.

Yahooooooo!

Kevin Barrett.



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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:35:24 -0500
From: "John Glaser" <JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net>
To: "WW1 Mail List" <wwi>
Subject: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
Message-ID: <000001bdf7e4$765aaca0$04474a0c@jg_notebook>

As my travels continue, I find myself in Mobile Alabama - post hurricane.
Following my usual custom, I visited a local hobby shop and had an
interesting find among the off-topic Bf-10-thingies.  It is an IPMS-USA
decal set for the Revell 1/28 kits.  Includes unit markings & artwork for
Cobby's (?) Camel, Guynemer's SPAD, and Von Wedel's & Raben's Triplanes.  No
national insignia included but also has color (colour) and construction
notes.  Not bad for $4.

Question for the list:  How long was IPMS in the decal business?  Any other
on-topic items?


					From the trusty notebook in the Hampton Inn,

							- Mr. G.

PS:  The sheet also includes Albatros Werke factory emblems and Axial &
Garuda prop emblems.


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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:36:12 -0600
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Pegasus Web site?
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981014213612.006c7888@mail>

Hi.

Anyone know when Pegasus will have its site working? You can go there now,
but you just end up at their directory, so there's nothing to see yet. 

Anxiously,

Dane


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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:01:07 -0500
From: "Douglas R. Jones" <djones@iex.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Decal prep?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981014230106.00697794@deimos.tx.iex.com>

At 07:55 PM 10/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Douglas --
>
>See the repost, and Thanks!

I did. Thanks that helps a bit. You certainly now need to be careful of
solvent based overcoats. They will dissolve the toner. Try water based poly
urethane.

Doug
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'I am a traveler of       |   Douglas R. Jones
     both Time and Space' |   IEX Corporation
        Led Zeppelin      |   (972)301-1307
                          |   djones@iex.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:04:15 EDT
From: BStett3770@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: New Eduards
Message-ID: <a6b53ace.3625743f@aol.com>

Hi

Eduards North America faxed me the list today, they list it as 1/72.

Eduards had listed this in 1/72 about 5 years ago and never released it. Was
to go with the Sopwith Baby they did. 

Far as I know they turned the masters over to AMC/Flashback.

Keep Modeling
Barry
Rosemont Hobby

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:18:15 -0700
From: Bob Johnson <robjohn@worldnet.att.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Decal prep?
Message-ID: <362593A7.6553@worldnet.att.net>

Douglas R. Jones wrote:
> 
> At 07:55 PM 10/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Douglas --
> >
> >See the repost, and Thanks!
> 
> I did. Thanks that helps a bit. You certainly now need to be careful of
> solvent based overcoats. They will dissolve the toner. Try water based poly
> urethane.
> 
> Doug
> --------------------------------------------------
> 'I am a traveler of       |   Douglas R. Jones
>      both Time and Space' |   IEX Corporation
>         Led Zeppelin      |   (972)301-1307
>                           |   djones@iex.com
> --------------------------------------------------

OK -- Thanks

BJ

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:56:14 -0700
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Pegasus Web site?
Message-ID: <199810150936.KAA06237@beryl.sol.co.uk>

Should be anytime now I believe
Sandy

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> From: D. Anderson <2814823733@home.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Pegasus Web site?
> Date: 14 October 1998 20:38
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Anyone know when Pegasus will have its site working? You can go there
now,
> but you just end up at their directory, so there's nothing to see yet. 
> 
> Anxiously,
> 
> Dane
> 

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:23:09 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: "WWI M.M.L." <wwi>
Subject: D.VIII Colors
Message-ID: <003301bdf84f$b7f910a0$08d690d0@Pvosburg>

Does anybody know a good match for the dark olive used on the Fok. D.VIII
ply wing/metalwork? In a WWI Aero article Dan Abbot refers to it as Methuen
4F5, the No.25 Datafile as 4F4 or 4F5. Lacking a handbook, I'm looking for
an FS or bottled equivalent.

TIA,

Dave


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:40:03 -0500
From: The Shannons <shingend@ix.netcom.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
Message-ID: <36262562.851B819D@ix.netcom.com>

These were issued in the mid-1980's, in a move that caused the IPMS organization some
headaches, financially.  I understand there are still some sheets in storage in their
vaults as well.  There weren't other WWI sheets, that I recall, but there were a few
other types such as Japanese Hinomarus, low-vis US sheets, some squadron markings
through a unit's history.

John Glaser wrote:

> As my travels continue, I find myself in Mobile Alabama - post hurricane.
> Following my usual custom, I visited a local hobby shop and had an
> interesting find among the off-topic Bf-10-thingies.  It is an IPMS-USA
> decal set for the Revell 1/28 kits.  Includes unit markings & artwork for
> Cobby's (?) Camel, Guynemer's SPAD, and Von Wedel's & Raben's Triplanes.  No
> national insignia included but also has color (colour) and construction
> notes.  Not bad for $4.
>
> Question for the list:  How long was IPMS in the decal business?  Any other
> on-topic items?
>
>                                         From the trusty notebook in the Hampton Inn,
>
>                                                         - Mr. G.
>
> PS:  The sheet also includes Albatros Werke factory emblems and Axial &
> Garuda prop emblems.



--
This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon
at Shingend@ix.netcom.com

History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could.



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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:43:53 -0500
From: The Shannons <shingend@ix.netcom.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: D.VIII Colors
Message-ID: <36262648.BA1ABE66@ix.netcom.com>

This was 'Fokker Green', which is available in Polly Scale as a near FS34096
color.  I like a little more olive tone, and use 34086-34087.  Just what color
Fokker Green was is open to debate (like all WWI colors), and it probably
varied a lot from batch to batch and through the war, since specifications were
much looser then and Germany was having difficulty finding basic materials due
to the blockade.

.Mark.

David Vosburgh wrote:

> Does anybody know a good match for the dark olive used on the Fok. D.VIII
> ply wing/metalwork? In a WWI Aero article Dan Abbot refers to it as Methuen
> 4F5, the No.25 Datafile as 4F4 or 4F5. Lacking a handbook, I'm looking for
> an FS or bottled equivalent.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dave



--
This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon
at Shingend@ix.netcom.com

History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could.



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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:24:37 EDT
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
Message-ID: <afbd0f24.36262fd5@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-10-15 12:44:33 EDT, you write:

<< 
 These were issued in the mid-1980's, in a move that caused the IPMS
organization some
 headaches, financially.  I understand there are still some sheets in storage
in their
 vaults as well.  There weren't other WWI sheets, that I recall, but there
were a few
 other types such as Japanese Hinomarus, low-vis US sheets, some squadron
markings
 through a unit's history.
 
 John Glaser wrote:
 
 >  an
 > interesting find among the off-topic Bf-10-thingies.  It is an IPMS-USA
 > decal set for the Revell 1/28 kits.  Includes unit markings & artwork for
 > Cobby's (?) Camel, Guynemer's SPAD, and Von Wedel's & Raben's Triplanes.  
 >
 > Question for the list:  How long was IPMS in the decal business?  Any other
 > on-topic items?
 >
 >                                         From the trusty notebook in the
Hampton Inn,
 >
 >                                                         - Mr. G.>>

I don't know which chapter, or if it was published by the national IPMS, but
I've got an IPMS 1/48 decal sheet for NASM's Stropp D V( also a neat sheet off
topic sheet of B-25 noseart).
Robert K.
 

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:25:44 EDT
From: Modelhound@aol.com
To: wwi
Cc: dave@vga-graphics.com
Subject: Re: D.VIII Colors
Message-ID: <8e5408a.36263018@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/15/98 8:26:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dave@vga-
graphics.com writes:

<< Does anybody know a good match for the dark olive used on the Fok. D.VIII
 ply wing/metalwork? In a WWI Aero article Dan Abbot refers to it as Methuen
 4F5, the No.25 Datafile as 4F4 or 4F5. Lacking a handbook, I'm looking for
 an FS or bottled equivalent.
 
 TIA,
 
 Dave
  >>
I write:

Using the Mk.1 eyeball in difuse sunlight method, it is my opinion that the
closest match to Methuen 4F4 - 4F5 is FS-34098.  Not "exact" but really really
close.  The 4F4 is just a tad lighter than the 4F5 and the Fs-34098 is just a
tad lighter and a tad yellower than the Methuen colors.   The differences are
not enough to notice unless you have all three colors side by side.  I would
use FS-34098 and call it good.

Mike Franklin
Bellingham, WA

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:26 -0700
From: Shane& Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: WW1 posts <wwi>
Subject: Introducing APMA's new magazine Editor
Message-ID: <3627274A.39FC1335@tac.com.au>

Hi guys,

 After being off the net due to a major crash & then upgrade. Then
catching up on approx 20 WW1 digests I thought I'd better tell you all
the good news.

 Lorna will kill me for this, but as of the first issue 1999 she will be
the Editor of Australia's best model club magazine(biased, who me!! :-)
). This will have the effect of more WW1 aero articles & seeing as I've
been roped in as Asst Editor, more ship articles. I should imagine there
will also be a massive crop of Austro-Hungarian articles appearing in
the magazine. Heck we'll most probably get Dr Peter Mitchell(former list
member) to write a couple of pieces.

 All the best:  Shane(the younger & better looking one) who will be
ducking for cover when Lorna reads this.

 Ps: Glad to see the Brisfit will finally be completed Shane or am I
being too optimistic :-)

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:13:27 -0500
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: A Decal Find in Mobile AL
Message-ID: <s625f513.082@transcrypt.com>

When the IPMS/USA headquarters moved from Lincoln, I helped pack up some =
of the special products.  there were to be no more decals issued once the =
existing stock ran out.  There were Japanese hinomarus, rank insignia for =
1/35 military figures, a Lockheed Constellation set, Royal Saudi Air Force =
markings, P-47s, B-24s, etc.  Quite a listing.  As I recall (this was =
several years ago), most of the decal stock was gone or close to it.  Now =
they only deal with the convention specials.

Incidently, they also did photo-etch sets for a P-51, SB2C, and others I =
have forgotten, plus a set of Spandaus.  All sets were available in 1/72, =
1/48, and 1/32 scales.  I believe they were all done by Foto-Cut.  The =
excursion into after-market products was not profitable, and it was phased =
out.  I also helped send some of the orders out, and I can tell you it was =
an awful lot of work for not getting paid anything.   I purchased several =
of the 1/32 Spandaus in anticipation of a Hobbycraft 1/32 Fokker DrI or =
DVII, but that did not come about.  Oh well,... =20

Paul A. Schwartzkopf


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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:28:35 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Introducing APMA's new magazine Editor
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981016022835.00897590@philonline.com.ph>


> Lorna will kill me for this, but as of the first issue 1999 she will be
>the Editor of Australia's best model club magazine

Congrats!

Spread the WWI modelling gospel!


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