WWI Digest 1177 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Down Under show report by mbittner@juno.com 2) Updated club's web site by mbittner@juno.com 3) RE: Down Under show report by Shane Weier 4) Re: Updated club's web site by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 5) Palmer Aero Chord decals by "Steven M. Perry" 6) Re: Palmer Aero Chord decals by Bob Pearson 7) Re: Palmer Aero Chord decals by "Steven M. Perry" 8) Re: Down Under show report by mbittner@juno.com 9) Re: Updated club's web site by mbittner@juno.com 10) WWI R/C models by Franco Poloni 11) Re: DR1 on the web by aew (Allan Wright) 12) RE: WWI R/C models by "Denest, Michael J" 13) Re: WWI R/C models by Don RInker 14) Re: WWI R/C models by "Douglas R. Jones" 15) British WW1 colors by "Douglas R. Jones" 16) Re: Updated club's web site by "Richard Eaton" 17) Re: WWI R/C models by "Douglas R. Jones" 18) Re: WWI R/C models by Don Rinker 19) Re: WWI R/C models by "Douglas R. Jones" 20) Re: DR1 on the web by REwing@aol.com 21) FT 17 Tracks / Pedro's SSW by "Leonard Endy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:58:19 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Down Under show report Message-ID: <19980823.205956.-241453.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 18:23:11 -0400 Shane Weier writes: >And given that there was just one 1/48 model of a WW1 aircraft >subject, >what has happened to all the Eduards my strene pusher seems to sell? I >think I've been Bittnered. Bwahahahahaha.... Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:49:14 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Updated club's web site Message-ID: <19980823.214916.-235209.0.mbittner@juno.com> I just update my club's WW1 gallery. It is now broken up by nation. Check out: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html When there, go into the German page to see Pedro's wonderful Toko SSW D.III (here's your first, Shane). I've included my Pegasus SSW D.III for comparison. They're both marked as Udet's bird, and it's interesting to see two different approaches to color, as well as application of the lozenge. I applied mine at 45 degrees, while Pedro applied his spanwise. Pedro did an excellent job! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:50:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: Down Under show report Message-ID: <199808240306.NAA21520@mimmon.mim.com.au> Matt, >>And given that there was just one 1/48 model of a WW1 aircraft >>subject, >>what has happened to all the Eduards my strene pusher seems to sell? I >>think I've been Bittnered. >Bwahahahahaha.... > >Matt Bittner Awwr, don't go getting all mean about it. It was humiliating enough realising that the only WW1 models I'd finished in the last 10 months were the two 1/72 ones I entered. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:42:53 -0600 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi Subject: Re: Updated club's web site Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980823224253.0072dfec@mail> At 10:45 PM 23/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >I just update my club's WW1 gallery. It is now broken up by nation. >Check out: > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html > >When there, go into the German page to see Pedro's wonderful Toko SSW >D.III (here's your first, Shane). I've included my Pegasus SSW D.III for >comparison. They're both marked as Udet's bird, and it's interesting to >see two different approaches to color, as well as application of the >lozenge. I applied mine at 45 degrees, while Pedro applied his spanwise. > >Pedro did an excellent job! Hard to tell from the thumbnails. Each time I clicked on the thumbnails, I was taken to another Geocities page that said the link was unavailable. Will this be fixed soon? I'd like to get a better look at the Toko kit. Dane > >Matt Bittner > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:17:19 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi Subject: Palmer Aero Chord decals Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980824051719.00697638@pop.mindspring.com> Some weeks back somebody mentioned the possibility of some decals for Palmer Aero Chord tires. Now that my DH-2 is done, the tires are one of the few areas on the model not obscured with rigging. I'd sure be interested in hearing more about these decals. If anyone has any info, please give me a holler. TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 02:38:15 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Palmer Aero Chord decals Message-ID: <09381567202593@KAIEN.COM> Steven Not sure what posting you mention in regards to the Palmer Cord Aero Tyres, however the Eduard Sopwith Triplane kit includes them Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "Steven M. Perry" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Palmer Aero Chord decals > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:19:10 -0400 > > Some weeks back somebody mentioned the possibility of some decals for > Palmer Aero Chord tires. Now that my DH-2 is done, the tires are one of the > few areas on the model not obscured with rigging. > > I'd sure be interested in hearing more about these decals. If anyone has > any info, please give me a holler. > > TIA > sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:06:35 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi Subject: Re: Palmer Aero Chord decals Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980824060635.00709da8@pop.mindspring.com> At 05:39 AM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Steven > >Not sure what posting you mention in regards to the Palmer Cord Aero Tyres, >however the Eduard Sopwith Triplane kit includes them > >Regards, > Bob Pearson Thanks Bob: I'll begin my hunt in that direction. #5998 is on it's way to work today so I can try out the 35mm camera and macro lens the safety guy has. So, if anyone asks you about your profiles, you can tell them that one of your profiles and a $5 kit kept one squirrel off the streets & out of the bars for 3 months. I just wouldn't have enjoyed this kit as much without your profile of 5998. Thanks again sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:15:26 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Down Under show report Message-ID: <19980824.052354.-226939.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:53:00 -0400 Shane Weier writes: >Awwr, don't go getting all mean about it. Not mean, just tongue-in-cheek. :-) >It was humiliating enough realising that the only WW1 models I'd >finished in the last 10 months were the two 1/72 ones I entered. Good for you! :-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:23:50 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Updated club's web site Message-ID: <19980824.052355.-226939.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:50:38 -0400 "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> writes: >Hard to tell from the thumbnails. Each time I clicked on the >thumbnails, I >was taken to another Geocities page that said the link was >unavailable. > >Will this be fixed soon? I'd like to get a better look at the Toko >kit. Sorry. I uploaded and moved all of the new thumbnails to the new directory, but forgot to upload and move Pedro's SSW D.III images. They're there now, and in working order. Thanks for letting me know! That's what happens when you do this stuff late at night...:-( Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:02:48 +0200 From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980724140248.0068d080@lo.itline.it> Hi guys just retourned from my vacation and while reading a magazine I came across a wonderfull photo of a flying model. now, my question is:is there a source on the net that I can contact for some infos about this models? are (the models) easy to fly and build? Thanks Franco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: DR1 on the web Message-ID: <199808241234.IAA03545@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > IPMS home page, I discovered on page two of the photos of aircraft from > the National contest in Santa Clara, there before me was my DR1. > SO....surf on over to the following: > www.lizpope.com/NATPIX/aircraft/dr1.jpg I had trouble with that URL, eventually finding said image at: http://www.lizpope.com/NATPIX/Aircraft_Aviation/dr1.jpg Looks great! Too bad there was so much 'heavy metal' in the entries and not as much canvas..... -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:48:43 -0400 From: "Denest, Michael J" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <31E6187EA8D0D111ACFE00805FE643DC74AF0D@xch-phl-06.he.boeing.com> Hi Franco, There is an offshoot from the WWI list called Time Machines. E-mail me off the list and I can answer your questions. Mike > ---------- > From: Franco Poloni[SMTP:frank@lo.itline.it] > Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 8:09 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: WWI R/C models > > Hi guys > just retourned from my vacation and while reading a magazine I came > across > a wonderfull photo of a flying model. > now, my question is:is there a source on the net that I can contact > for > some infos about this models? > are (the models) easy to fly and build? > > Thanks > Franco > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:00:51 -0400 From: Don RInker To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <35E17213.13D1@fast.net> Please explain where it's written on the Temple Walls that this list is limited to the discussion of plastic, static models..... >Denest, Michael J wrote: > > Hi Franco, > There is an offshoot from the WWI list called Time Machines. E-mail me > off the list and I can answer your questions. > Mike > >I came across a wonderfull photo of a flying model. > > now, my question is:is there a source on the net that I can contact > > for > > some infos about this models? > > are (the models) easy to fly and build? > > > > Thanks > > Franco > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:36:34 -0500 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980824093633.009bdd48@deimos.tx.iex.com> At 08:09 AM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi guys >just retourned from my vacation and while reading a magazine I came across >a wonderfull photo of a flying model. >now, my question is:is there a source on the net that I can contact for >some infos about this models? >are (the models) easy to fly and build? As with all things all I can say is it depends. Sorry for not being more specific. If you could tell me where you saw the photos it would help. There are several companies making kits of WWI aircraft. Flair in England makes a line of terrific flying sport scale models. Proctor makes probably the best known "precision" scale models. (I say this in quotes as there are those who take issue with the outlines etc of some of the Proctor models). A relative newcomer to this marketplace is Arizona Model Aircrafters. They claim to have kits in 1/6, 1/4 and 1/3 of several aircraft. They are very expensive. Also there is a new company out of Sweden (I believe) that is making 3 kits of Pioneer/WWI planes that are ARF (Almost Ready to Fly). They are supposed to be quite nice but also are expensive. Hope this helps, Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:06:14 -0500 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: wwi Subject: British WW1 colors Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980824140613.009b7e80@deimos.tx.iex.com> Anyone have any ideas to help this person out? >Return-Path: > >Dear Mr. Jones, I'm building a Sopwith Baby and I am looking for info on >interior colors of the cocpit area of this aircraft. Also the actual >materials used in the construction of the actual aircraft would shed light >on what colors to use for the duplication of the aircraft in miniature. Any >knowledge that you can share would be helpful. > > Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:35:32 -0500 From: "Richard Eaton" To: wwi Subject: Re: Updated club's web site Message-ID: <35E1C084.54E4F4EE@dsccc.com> Great models Matt, Paul, and Pedro et al. I like the way the new site layout plays too! Keep up the good work! Regards, Richard mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > I just update my club's WW1 gallery. It is now broken up by nation. > Check out: > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html > > When there, go into the German page to see Pedro's wonderful Toko SSW > D.III (here's your first, Shane). I've included my Pegasus SSW D.III for > comparison. They're both marked as Udet's bird, and it's interesting to > see two different approaches to color, as well as application of the > lozenge. I applied mine at 45 degrees, while Pedro applied his spanwise. > > Pedro did an excellent job! > > Matt Bittner > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:18:27 -0500 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: Franco Poloni Cc: wwi Subject: Re: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980824161826.009b6500@deimos.tx.iex.com> At 10:43 PM 7/24/98 +0200, you wrote: Hi Franco, >I found the web site og Arizona models, and their models are impressive, >and expensive too. That they are! For what is worth I have flown the 1/6 DH-1. I had the chance to fly the prototype model (built by John Cole) at last year's Scale Masters. Nice flying plane. Doesn't like the wind much but very few WWI models do. >Since I would like to try to build and fly a wwi r/c aircraft, I need some >infos about companies, adresses, and, if you have some experience, I would >like to have a good piece of advice. Have you any experience flying R/C models? I will assume you do. If you don't then WWI is not the place to start. I have been flying my Flair Puppeteer for the last 6 years. I love this plane. While not a true scale model I jazzed mine up with the nose ribs, flying wires etc. Good looking model and a joy to fly. I have built and flown the Flair Magnatilla which is a sort of Eindekker. I have a Flair Legionnaire (Nie 17) ready for paint, a Flair SE5a in the bones and a Baronette (small Dr1) in the box. Flair models are not true scale models. They are sport scale. But all build into nice flying planes. You can get them from Hobby Supply South http://www.hway.net/hss/ Proctor has several nice kits. These tend to be more precision scale. The large models are pretty pricey. They also have some models in the ~1/6 that are the old VK kits with some new additions. These are a bit less expensive, in the $150 - $175 range. They even have a new Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter available. Proctor doesn't have a web page so look for them in any of the R/C magazines. Arizona AM you know about. Mick Reeves Models in England has some interesting stuff. Large and expensive but really nice. He has won more contests than I can imagine! See his stuff at http://members.aol.com/mickmodels/index.htm I believe Brian Taylor (another English R/C legend) has a SE5a for electric power. Not sure about a web site. Balsa USA has a couple of kits. They can be reached at http://www.balsausa.com Glen Torrance has a couple of 1/4 models out. They are very nice and very scale. Also expensive. See them at http://www.gtmodels.com/ There are also several folks who offer plans for the scratch builder. Check for them in the R/C magazines. Hope this helps get you started. Building and flying R/C models of WWI subjects can be very rewarding. They fly differently than models of other eras. I like them! Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:25:43 -0400 From: Don Rinker To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <35E1DA57.42AC2782@fast.net> Douglas R. Jones wrote: > A relative newcomer to this marketplace is Arizona Model Aircrafters. They > claim to have kits in 1/6, 1/4 and 1/3 of several aircraft. Heh heh.... I like that... "claim to have" :-) > Also there is a new company out of Sweden (I believe) that is > making 3 kits of Pioneer/WWI planes that are ARF (Almost Ready to Fly). > They are supposed to be quite nice but also are expensive. Any more on these? I only ever saw one postage stamp size photo of what looked like a Bleriot .... ??? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:55:40 -0500 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI R/C models Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980824165539.009bb6c0@deimos.tx.iex.com> At 05:29 PM 8/24/98 -0400, Don Rinker wrote: >Heh heh.... I like that... "claim to have" :-) That's the way I looked at it! I checked his web page today. He has some of the Bob Holman kits, Aerodrome and his own. Also a SPAD XIII from a German kit. If you believe his web page and ads he is doing pretty well. I have my suspicions. I know the fellow who is doing the Hansa prototype. As far as I know John hasn't finished his yet. So I am not sure how they could have a kit yet! >Any more on these? I only ever saw one postage stamp size photo of what >looked like a Bleriot .... MAN did a "I Spy" blurb on these guys. I'll check and see which issue if you want. I have never seen one myself. Rumor has it they are very nice.....but expensive! Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:14:30 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: DR1 on the web Message-ID: <31b1b87a.35e1e5c7@aol.com> Russ bragged (and rightly so)... << IPMS home page, I discovered on page two of the photos of aircraft from the National contest in Santa Clara, there before me was my DR1. SO....surf on over to the following: http://www.lizpope.com/NATPIX/Aircraft_Aviation/dr1.jpg >> Hi everyone, I belong to the same IPMS group as Russ and saw this plane go together in stages. The picture really doesn't do justice to the model. The stories, the cussing, and the new stories that Russ told at the meetings added a lot to the model's history. I thought Russ did a beautiful job on the Dr.I, and I got to get up close and personal to it. BTW, I helped supply Russ with some info from my library so that he could do the great job that he did! ;^} -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:34:21 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: FT 17 Tracks / Pedro's SSW Message-ID: <35e1f6d5.2057417@legend.firstsaga.com> Well, after some deliberation I finally decided to purchase a set of the RPM individual track links for the FT 17. Maybe a tad on the expensive side but they look fantastic. Basically, they assemble like a bicycle chain with the track pads welded on. Probably a good deal of work but they are worth it. If you plan on building the RPM FT-17 you won't be disappointed. Now....where can I find some photos of the interior of one of these beasts ? Figure if I'm going to go with the tracks might as well detail the interior. Pedro: Really enjoyed seeing your SSW D.III. Great job...now tell us about your method for painting the prop. Last trivia photo at the Swap'N'Shop pages has only generated two responses...both correct. Either no one else knows or no one else is looking. Will provide a new photo again this coming weekend. Len Visit the Swap'N' Shop pages... http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1177 **********************