WWI Digest 1033

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) FSM Poll results
	by James Gibbons <jgibbons@vppsa.com>
  2) Re: FSM Poll results
	by Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
  3) Re: FSM Poll results
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
  4) Re: Tull
	by Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
  5) Re: FSM Poll results
	by Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
  6) Fighting the Flying Circus
	by "Denest, Michael J" <Michael.Denest@PHL.Boeing.com>
  7) Re: DML Gun Problems
	by The Shannons <Shingend@ix.netcom.com>
  8) Re: FSM Poll results
	by KarrArt <KarrArt@aol.com>
  9) Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
	by Alberto Rada <rada@argonaut.net>
 10) Fw: 1/72 poll results
	by "The Bittners" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 11) Re: Fw: 1/72 poll results
	by mbittner@juno.com
 12) Re: DML Gun Problems
	by Zulis <Zulis@aol.com>
 13) Anybody out there???
	by "Jim Pliml" <jfpliml@camalott.com>
 14) Re: Anybody out there???
	by Bill Bacon <wbacon@netjava.net>
 15) Re: On topic - Off media
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
 16) Re: On topic - Off media
	by Alberto Rada <rada@argonaut.net>
 17) Aeroclub Fe2B
	by "The Bittners" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 18) Re: On topic - Off media
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 19) Re: FSM Poll results
	by "P. Howard" <phoward@abilene.com>
 20) Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
	by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." <lamas@olympus.net>
 21) Re: Anybody out there???
	by "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 22) RE: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
	by Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
 23) Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
	by Suvoroff <Suvoroff@aol.com>
 24) Re: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
	by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <Aidrian.BS@connectorsystems.co.nz>
 25) Re: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
	by mbittner@juno.com

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:47:35 -0400
From: James Gibbons <jgibbons@vppsa.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <01BD856F.0B5DC280.jgibbons@vppsa.com>

Yea!  FE-2b comes in at number fourteen.  Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this is a gap in the available kits in 1/72....

A Toko FE-2b would be fine with me right about now.

James Gibbons

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:08:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980522105806.22781B-100000@timber20.timberland.lib.wa.us>

   Re-results: Yuck! What a terrible list of "Most Wanteds"! "Bear"?
"Provider"? "Badger"? These don't even sound like aircraft! At least a
couple of good things made it to the list, FE2b (now THAT's an aircraft,
pal!) Nieup 17, and Albatros D.III (why a III, I wonder? Why not "Albatros
Family, ala "Mosquito Family"?) Even the choices from WWII weren't
exciting! Martin Mariner, for heaven's sake! How about a decent Typhoon,
or Spit I/II, or Beaufighter? What's with the guys who build "Big Planes",
anyhow? What are they compensating for, whatever scale they choose? (Of
course, need I say that this most certainly doesn't apply to the Straaken,
Gotha, Caproni, or H.P. Bloody Paralyzer fans on the list? Now THOSE are
aircraft!) 
   Gee, I feel much better now!
                                                  Tra la la
                                                       Patrick

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Patrick Padovan
e-mail:   ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us
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On Fri, 22 May 1998, Shane Weier wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Remember Paul Boyers call for an email poll on most wanted 1/72 kits?
> And another on 1/48?
> 
> I append his 1/72 results, taken from rec.models scale.  Note the
> comments he makes about WW1. 
> Naughty, naughty Matt ;-)
> 
> 
> The 1/48 results were posted earlier. No WW1 models at all. Maybe Eduard
> has slaked our thirst, maybe we big-scalers aren't so skilled at
> stacking the deck.  ROTFL
> 
> Shane
> (comments in braces are mine)
> =====================================================
> 
> Subject: 
>           1/72 poll results 
>       Date: 
>           Thu, 21 May 1998 14:24:29 -0600 
>       From: 
>           pboyer@finescale.com (Paul Boyer)
> Organization: 
>           Kalmbach Publishing Co. 
>  Newsgroups: 
>           rec.models.scale
> 
> 
> Well, here it is, the result of the very informal rec.models.scale
> survey
> for most wanted aircraft in 1/72 scale. The counting is over, so don't
> "Ooh, add these choices" to me. I received 98 ballots (including my
> own).
> The results are similar to the official survey we took a year and a half
> ago in FSM - you guys want to see some big models. While the votes were
> spread out quite a bit, most settled into modern U.S. again, and some
> WWII
> U.S. that need to be updated. British subjects (both WWII and postwar)
> were also strong, as well as some postwar Soviet subjects. There was a
> mini surge from a WWI SIG that skewed things a bit - no fair, guys. But
> these are things I can't control.
> 
> Only the subjects collecting five votes or more are listed. I feel less
> than five votes is statistically irrelevant for this poll. I will be
> sharing these results with kit manufacturers.
> 
> In order of most wanted
> 
> 1. Boeing C/KC-97/377
> 2. Tupolev Bear
> 3. DeHavilland Mosquito family
> 4. Fairchild C-123 Provider
> 5. Tupolev Badger
> 6. Douglas C-54/DC-4
> 7. Martin PBM Mariner
> 8. Douglas A-26 family
> 9. Douglas C-124 Globemaster
> 10. Nieuport 17   {what, finger prints?  Matt Bittner you say?
> Weeeel....}
> 11. Martin B-26 Marauder family
> 12. N.A. B-45 Tornado
> 13. Albatros D.III  {Yup, more prints, but not all *his* this time}
> 14. F.E. 2            {right naughty bunch you teeny scalers are ;-)  }
> 15. Gloster Meteor F.8
> 16. Hawker Hunter family
> 17. H.P. Halifax family
> 18. Lockheed C-141 Starlifter family
> 19. N.A. FJ-2/3 Fury
> 20. Northrop T-38A Talon
> 21. Douglas A-20 Havoc/Boston family
> 
> Paul Boyer
> 
> Cyclists who wear helmets have something to protect.
> 
> 



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:25:50 -0500
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <s5657d00.006@transcrypt.com>

>  Re-results: Yuck! What a terrible list of "Most Wanteds"! "Bear"?
> "Provider"? "Badger"?=20

Badgers?....Badgers?....We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!

(Sorry Patrick...couldn't resist this one :-))


Paul A. Schwartzkopf


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: Tull
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980522112600.23866A-100000@timber20.timberland.lib.wa.us>

     Well, "My God", I was just "Wondering Aloud," "Son"! What a "Wind
Up"! If it was "Up To Me," there'd be "A Time For Everything." I guess
you'd prefer it if I had "Nothing To Say," you know, on the "Inside."
"With You There To Help Me," I'll try not "To Cry You A Song"!
                                         DEFINITELY Living In The Past,
                                          (and in the "Slipstream"!)
                                            Patrick, Michael Collins,
                                              Jeffrey & Me    
--------------------------------------------------------------
----------
Patrick Padovan
e-mail:   ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us
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On Thu, 21 May 1998, KarrArt wrote:

> In a message dated 98-05-21 17:35:49 EDT, you write:
> 
> << Oh yeah? Well, your "Old Man" has "Locomotive Breath"!
>                                                         Patrick >>
> 
> Is the WW I Mailing List "living in the past"?
> Robert K.
> 


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980522113617.23866B-100000@timber20.timberland.lib.wa.us>

Paul: ROTFL! Oh, If only I'd said that! (And I will, I will!)
                                              Patrick
P.S. Now I suppose you'll say, "NOBODY gets the best of Paul C.
Schwartzkopf!"
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Padovan
e-mail:   ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us
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On Fri, 22 May 1998, Paul Schwartzkopf wrote:

> >  Re-results: Yuck! What a terrible list of "Most Wanteds"! "Bear"?
> > "Provider"? "Badger"?=20
> 
> Badgers?....Badgers?....We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
> 
> (Sorry Patrick...couldn't resist this one :-))
> 
> 
> Paul A. Schwartzkopf
> 
> 


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:59:16 -0400
From: "Denest, Michael J" <Michael.Denest@PHL.Boeing.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: Fighting the Flying Circus
Message-ID: <31E6187EA8D0D111ACFE00805FE643DC077159@xch-phl-06.he.boeing.com>

Riordan,
I was looking through the Ebay web site and found this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=14471271.  There
is a selection of three books, one of which you are looking for.  Go get
'em!
Mike



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:09:21 -0500
From: The Shannons <Shingend@ix.netcom.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems
Message-ID: <3565CD60.7487D19F@ix.netcom.com>

Again, I would suggest you try scientific supply houses.  One of the standard
pieces of equipment I use in Organometallic chemistry is called a "Transfer
Canulla".  This is a long, double ended hypodermic style needle used to do
anaerobic transfers of compounds that would blow your hands off if they see
oxygen.  The most common gages are 14, 18, 20, 22, and 28, and they are
supplied in lengths from about 6" to 2'.  24" of 28 gage stainless tubing
ought to keep you in Spandau, Parabellum, and Lewis barrels for a long time.

Mark Shannon

Ernest Thomas wrote:

> Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton wrote:
> >
> > Ernest
> >
> > I can buy Hypo tubing in metre lenghtdfrom acompany known as Steel and
> > Tube locally.
> >
> > I guess you should be able to source it from similar operations in your
> > neck of the woods.
> >
> > If not try these people, but make sure you wallet is well screwed down
> > before you open their catalogue. I will not be held reseponsible for any
> > increase in your overdraft after you have done so.
> >
> > http://www.smallparts.com/
> >
> > HTH
> > Aidrian
>
> aahhh! Once again Aidrian proves to be a tremendous help and a credit to
> the Southern Hemisphere.
> E.



--
This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon
at Shingend@ix.netcom.com

History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could.



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:37:51 EDT
From: KarrArt <KarrArt@aol.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <e654b997.3565d410@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-05-22 14:26:58 EDT, you write:

<< >  Re-results: Yuck! What a terrible list of "Most Wanteds"! "Bear"?
 > "Provider"? "Badger"?=20
 
 Badgers?....Badgers?....We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
 
 (Sorry Patrick...couldn't resist this one :-))
 
 
 Paul A. Schwartzkop >>

Paasche!
Robert K.

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:42:03 -0400
From: Alberto Rada <rada@argonaut.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980522154203.008c0e00@argonaut.net>

Hi Mike

Learn every thing about it at:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/98/midway/


SALUDOS


Alberto



At 04:34 AM 22-05-98 -0400, you wrote:
>Just came across this on r.m.s. Surely one of this year's greatest 
>sensations for me. Ivan Subrt
>
>Subject: 
>                ***USS Yorktown CV5 found at Midway!!!!!****
>         Date: 
>                20 May 1998 11:44:02 GMT
>        From: 
>                mbishop446@aol.com (MBishop446)
>Organization: 
>                AOL http://www.aol.com
>Newsgroups: 
>                rec.models.scale
>
>
>In my paper this morning we had a story that Bob Ballard has found the 
>CV5 in
>16,650 feet of water north of Midway Island.  The paper says that Ballard 
>found
>the ship which is still up right and intact yesterday 3:45 pm Charleston 
>time. 
>Ballard says he is doing a video on the lost ships of Midway.  Next up is 
>to
>find the 4 Japanese CV's lost in the same battle.  No dought a book will 
>be in
>the offering too.  The paper says that National Geographic will do a show 
>on
>the Ballard finds when the other ships are found, that is if anything is 
>left
>of them.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:08:41 -0500
From: "The Bittners" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Fw: 1/72 poll results
Message-ID: <000b01bd8505$055f3c20$45a685ce@jvaughan>

Just thought some might like to read.  Yes!  The Nie.17 made the top 10!!
Woo hoo!!

And would we skew??? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Boyer <pboyer@finescale.com>
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 3:24 PM
Subject: 1/72 poll results


>Well, here it is, the result of the very informal rec.models.scale survey
>for most wanted aircraft in 1/72 scale. The counting is over, so don't
>"Ooh, add these choices" to me. I received 98 ballots (including my own).
>The results are similar to the official survey we took a year and a half
>ago in FSM - you guys want to see some big models. While the votes were
>spread out quite a bit, most settled into modern U.S. again, and some WWII
>U.S. that need to be updated. British subjects (both WWII and postwar)
>were also strong, as well as some postwar Soviet subjects. There was a
>mini surge from a WWI SIG that skewed things a bit - no fair, guys. But
>these are things I can't control.
>
>Only the subjects collecting five votes or more are listed. I feel less
>than five votes is statistically irrelevant for this poll. I will be
>sharing these results with kit manufacturers.
>
>In order of most wanted
>
>1. Boeing C/KC-97/377
>2. Tupolev Bear
>3. DeHavilland Mosquito family
>4. Fairchild C-123 Provider
>5. Tupolev Badger
>6. Douglas C-54/DC-4
>7. Martin PBM Mariner
>8. Douglas A-26 family
>9. Douglas C-124 Globemaster
>10. Nieuport 17
>11. Martin B-26 Marauder family
>12. N.A. B-45 Tornado
>13. Albatros D.III
>14. F.E. 2
>15. Gloster Meteor F.8
>16. Hawker Hunter family
>17. H.P. Halifax family
>18. Lockheed C-141 Starlifter family
>19. N.A. FJ-2/3 Fury
>20. Northrop T-38A Talon
>21. Douglas A-20 Havoc/Boston family
>
>Paul Boyer
>
>Cyclists who wear helmets have something to protect.


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:14:42 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Fw: 1/72 poll results
Message-ID: <19980522.162210.8966.0.mbittner@juno.com>

On Fri, 22 May 1998 15:55:24 -0400 "The Bittners"
<tbittners@sprintmail.com> writes:

>Just thought some might like to read.  Yes!  The Nie.17 made the top 
>10!!
>Woo hoo!!
>
>And would we skew??? :-)

Cripes!  It took almost two days to get from my wife's account to here. 
Whassup wid dat?

Sorry about the double, late post...:-(


Matt Bittner

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:47:57 EDT
From: Zulis <Zulis@aol.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems
Message-ID: <d4656f61.3565f28e@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-05-22 15:13:12 EDT,  Mark Shannon wrote:

<< This is a long, double ended hypodermic style needle used to do
 anaerobic transfers of compounds that would blow your hands off if they see
 oxygen.  >>

Wow....  after this, putting fillings in the teeth of 1/72 aviators must seem
like child's play...   

Dave Z

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:06:17 -0500
From: "Jim Pliml" <jfpliml@camalott.com>
To: "post WWI" <wwi>
Subject: Anybody out there???
Message-ID: <199805222204.RAA11815@camalott.com>

 I have not had any postings for two days. What is going on out there? 
Did my stupid server kick me off?   
HEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!


TIA                   Jim Pliml      jfpliml@camalott.com 

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:09:55 -0500
From: Bill Bacon <wbacon@netjava.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Anybody out there???
Message-ID: <3565F7B3.F748765F@netjava.net>

Jim,

We are still here.

Cheers,

Bill B.

Jim Pliml wrote:

>  I have not had any postings for two days. What is going on out there?
> Did my stupid server kick me off?
> HEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!
>
> TIA                   Jim Pliml      jfpliml@camalott.com




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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 23:36:49 +0100
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: On topic - Off media
Message-ID: <199805222240.XAA27596@beryl.sol.co.uk>

> Sam's dad sat on Sam's Spam SPAD. When Sam spied his spam SPAD sat on by
> Sam's dad, Sam was sad. And the Spam SPAD was eaten by sad Sam and his
> SPAD sitting dad.

Sad!
S.

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:52:29 -0400
From: Alberto Rada <rada@argonaut.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: On topic - Off media
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980522185229.008bf100@argonaut.net>

Hi Sandy

Please, start a new model
and by no means open the door
No, those men in white are not your friends, no, dont open the door

SALUDOS

Alberto


At 06:43 PM 22-05-98 -0400, you wrote:
>> Sam's dad sat on Sam's Spam SPAD. When Sam spied his spam SPAD sat on by
>> Sam's dad, Sam was sad. And the Spam SPAD was eaten by sad Sam and his
>> SPAD sitting dad.
>
>Sad!
>S.
>
>


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:01:49 -0500
From: "The Bittners" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Aeroclub Fe2B
Message-ID: <000b01bd85d5$9e5c0180$24a685ce@jvaughan>

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Just saw this review.  Too cool, even if it's in the wrong scale. ;-)

http://pmms.webace.com.au/fe2b.htm

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:24:09 -0700
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi>
Subject: Re: On topic - Off media
Message-ID: <02240964745435@KAIEN.COM>


Since seeing that
> > Sam's dad sat on Sam's Spam SPAD. When Sam spied his spam SPAD sat on by
> > Sam's dad, Sam was sad. And the Spam SPAD was eaten by sad Sam and his
> > SPAD sitting dad.
Sandy said
> Sad!
> S.


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:11:46 -0500
From: "P. Howard" <phoward@abilene.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results
Message-ID: <002601bd85f8$862caba0$2e868ece@phoward>

Thayer &Chandler!

Paasche is passe!   DOH...

Paul H
-----Original Message-----
From: KarrArt <KarrArt@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: FSM Poll results


>In a message dated 98-05-22 14:26:58 EDT, you write:
>
><< >  Re-results: Yuck! What a terrible list of "Most Wanteds"! "Bear"?
> > "Provider"? "Badger"?=20
> 
> Badgers?....Badgers?....We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
> 
> (Sorry Patrick...couldn't resist this one :-))
> 
> 
> Paul A. Schwartzkop >>
>
>Paasche!
>Robert K.
>


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:38:23 -0700
From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." <lamas@olympus.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
Message-ID: <E0yd58Y-00051O-00@olympus.net>


>>Subject: 
>>                ***USS Yorktown CV5 found at Midway!!!!!****

>>In my paper this morning we had a story that Bob Ballard has found the 
>>CV5 in
>>16,650 feet of water north of Midway Island. 

   As an aside, it is a historical tragedy that the U.S. Navy did not deem
fit to rescue the USS Enterprise from the scrap yard.  If any WW II U.S.
Navy ship deserved to be preserved after the war, it was the USS Enterprise.

   Fernando Lamas
   CDR, MC, USNR (Ret.)


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:48:49 -0500
From: "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: jfpliml@camalott.com, "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi>
Subject: Re: Anybody out there???
Message-ID: <35664720.BBBEF9D8@wireweb.net>

Jim Pliml wrote:

>  I have not had any postings for two days. What is going on out there?
>
> Did my stupid server kick me off?
> HEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!
>
> TIA                   Jim Pliml      jfpliml@camalott.com

Yes...At least I think I am. Therefore I might be.   Lee





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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:45:37 +1000
From: Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
To: wwi
Subject: RE: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
Message-ID: <199805230807.SAA02440@mimmon.mim.com.au>


Aidrian proclaims (as is oft the wont of our cross Tasman cousins)

>It's become a style in itself. I wonder whether this is due to the fact
>that there isn't a great deal of cross-fertilization of techniques and
>ideas between the different disciplines? Armour modellers could learn a
>lot from railway modellers for example, and I have appropriated dome of
>the figure painter's techniques of adding shade and light for railway
>models.

(minor snippage)

>I pinch ideas from all over the place, and swap them around freely -
I'm
>also a butterfly, doing ships and trains as well as aeroplanes.

Following on from this - our local model show was instituted after the
collapse of
the organisation running its predeccessor. One thing which we determined
from the start was that we'd try to make the new show a cross
disciplinary
affair, and instead of restricting it to the traditional static plastic
modelling
fraternity, chose to include the RC ship/aircraft/car guys, railroad
modellers,
toy soldier collectors, wargamers and so on.

This gave us two things.

One: critical mass, so that the show was big enough from the beginning
to 
survive despite hefty fees for a venue

Two: the chance to swap ideas, materials and so on

At last years show I know of RC aircraft modellers learning how to make
a 
crash moulded canopy, of static aircraft modellers learning that the
best place to
buy bolts for that brass prop boss is the model railroad store, and
plastic armour
afficionados learning landscape/diorama techniques from the model RR
guys.

Pretty impressive, and as a result the show has grown each year, and
most
everyone is eager for this years show (Queensland Model hobbies Expo,
August 22,23)

>Over the last few years I've added gouache and
>aquarellable colured pencils to my list of materials. I'll save tempera
>for decorating harpsichord soundboards but it might be fun to paint a
>Hasegawa egg plane in them.

Rimmel was suggesting gouache for Fokker streaks while he edited SMI
*many* years ago, 
but I *still* haven't tried it. Watercolour pencils OTOH are *the*
biggest new technique I've
developed in 10 years. Try an Indian Red pencil and Kleer/Future/Stride
to make an excellent 
propellor varnish.

>It seems Robert's milk crate had room for two - any one else want to
>join us?

Getting crowded. Make way, make way, move to the rear....

Shane

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 04:58:47 EDT
From: Suvoroff <Suvoroff@aol.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Ballard Finds Yorktown
Message-ID: <64546a81.35668fc8@aol.com>

     "As an aside, it is a historical tragedy that the U.S. Navy did not deem
fit to rescue the USS Enterprise from the scrap yard.  If any WW II U.S.
Navy ship deserved to be preserved after the war, it was the USS Enterprise."
     A crime against history as great as the wanton destruction of the USS
Oregon or the scrapping of HMS Warspite.  A historical artifact, once gone, is
gone forever.

Yours,
James D. Gray

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 21:04:24 -0700
From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <Aidrian.BS@connectorsystems.co.nz>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
Message-ID: <35679BB3.56F5@connectorsystems.co.nz>

>From Shane Weier 
> 
> Rimmel was suggesting gouache for Fokker streaks while he edited SMI
> *many* years ago,
> but I *still* haven't tried it. Watercolour pencils OTOH are *the*
> biggest new technique I've
> developed in 10 years. Try an Indian Red pencil and Kleer/Future/Stride
> to make an excellent
> propellor varnish.

Thanks - I hadn't thought of mixing in that way. Would the pencils be
any use for the Fokker streaks I wonder? I don't do German 'planes so
I've not tried it, but it would seem worth trying them out.

Aidrian

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:59:49 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: convention-was Are we filling too many seams?
Message-ID: <19980523.070019.4254.1.mbittner@juno.com>

On Sat, 23 May 1998 03:57:15 -0400 Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
writes:

>Rimmel was suggesting gouache for Fokker streaks while he edited SMI
>*many* years ago, 
>but I *still* haven't tried it. Watercolour pencils OTOH are *the*
>biggest new technique I've
>developed in 10 years. Try an Indian Red pencil and 
>Kleer/Future/Stride
>to make an excellent 
>propellor varnish.

I'm intrigued.  Please explain.


Matt Bittner

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