WWI Digest 1019 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Bob Pearson by REwing 2) Book: The Wonder of War in the Air by ModelerAl 3) Mk. IV Tanks by Suvoroff 4) Re: Data Files for trade - missing numbers by "Sandy Adam" 5) 1997 UK IMPS by Jeff Hamblen 6) Re: Bob Pearson by The Shannons 7) Flying Machines Press-Update by Graham Nash 8) FMJ web site by "Rob." 9) Spoked wheels in WWI Aero? by thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) 10) sale books by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 11) Re: NorEastcon by Patrick Padovan 12) Re: Flying Machines Press-Update by "Andy Kemp" 13) Re: 1997 UK IMPS by "Andy Kemp" 14) Re: Toko Snipe -Reply by Patrick Padovan 15) 3 Questions by Carlos 16) Re: Phonix Swirl: by Patrick Padovan 17) Re: 1997 UK IMPS by KarrArt 18) Re: 3 Questions by KarrArt 19) RE: 3 Questions by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 20) Re: 3 Questions by Dave Watts 21) More on the Toko Snipe by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 22) Re: Toko Snipe -Reply by Geoff Smith 23) Re: Flying Machines Press-Update by Geoff Smith 24) R-Planes by John & Allison Cyganowski 25) RE: R-Planes by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 26) Re: Data Files for trade by "CHARLES JOHNSON" 27) Re: R-Planes by KarrArt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 02:10:22 EDT From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Bob Pearson Message-ID: <8818170.3556964f@aol.com> Anyone trying to get a hold of Bob or waiting for a reply from any messages, won't hear from him right away. Got a phone call from him and things still aren't working right. His computer that is. ;^) He'll rejoin us when he can. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 03:38:05 EDT From: ModelerAl To: wwi Subject: Book: The Wonder of War in the Air Message-ID: I've been offered this book in a trade. Does anybody know if it's worthwhile? How about its value or lack thereof, or someone/someplace that can advise me? The Wonder of War in the Air, by Francis Rolt-Wheeler Lothrop, Lee and Shepard Company Boston, November 1917 TIA, Al http://users.aol.com/modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 04:36:40 EDT From: Suvoroff To: wwi Subject: Mk. IV Tanks Message-ID: <26fd42ae.3556b899@aol.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_894875800_boundary Content-ID: <0_894875800@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII It has been suggested that people might get the wrong idea from my previous subject title and delete it as noxious spam. I apologize to anyone who did read it. Yours, James D. Gray --part0_894875800_boundary Content-ID: <0_894875800@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Suvoroff Return-path: To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hermaphrodites Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 07:22:21 EDT Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am thinking of doing a simple conversion of the new 1/72nd Emhar Mk.IV, using both a male and a female kit to construct a hermaphroditic version (6pdr on one side, two MG's on the other). However, I have never seen a photograph of one. (Then again, unless both sponsons made it into the picture, how could you tell?) So the question is, were Mk IV tanks produced as hermaphrodites? If so, which sponson was male and which female? Or were they produced both ways? Yours, James D. Gray Beside a Belgian 'staminet, when the smoke had cleared away, Beneath a busted Camel, its former pilot lay, His throat was cut by the bracing wire, the tank had hit his head, And coughing a show-er of dental work, these were the words he said, "Oh, I'm going to a better land- they jazz there every night; The cocktails grow on the bushes, so every one stays tight; They've torn up all the calendars, they've busted all the clocks, And little drops of whisky come trickling through the rocks." The pilot breathed these last few gasps before he passed away; "I'll tell you how it happened. My flippers didn't stay. The motor wouldn't hit at all, the struts were far too few, A bullet hit the gas-tank, and the gas came leaking through. "Oh, I'm going to a better land where the motors always run, Where the eggnog grows on the eggplant, and the pilots grow a bun. They've got no Sops, they've got no Spads, they've got no Flaming Fours, And little frosted juleps are served at all the stores." - Contemporary US Air Service song. --part0_894875800_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:34:12 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Data Files for trade - missing numbers Message-ID: <199805110844.JAA04234@beryl.sol.co.uk> If you wish John I can give you fax number of a bookshop in Norwich who have the following (as well as many others) for sale at 6GBP each. > > My Shortages > #1 Albatross DIII > #3 Albatross DV > #5 Fokker Dr I > #7 Pfalz D.III > #8 Spad 7 > #16 Morane Type L > #25 Fokker D.VIII > #27 Halberstadt CL.IIL > #37 Roland D.VI > #41 Pfalz D XII > #45 Aviatik Berg DI > #52 Bristol M 1 > #60 Sopwith Baby I got the Hawa from him myself - which only leaves the Nie17 - Nr20 to complete my set - if anybody has this spare in the original and wishes to trade for anything else please let me know. I'd spring for any two of the above. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 02:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Hamblen To: wwi Subject: 1997 UK IMPS Message-ID: <19980511090243.16608.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Last month in the Polish magazine, „Plastic Fanatic”, they had some pictures of the 1997 IMPS UK championship. One of the photographs was of a diorama of the Fokker workshop by someone named Jael Christian. It had 3 EIII’s in various stages of assembly, including one stripped down and a couple of wings being covered by some workmen. There was no other info. I imagine he used eduard’s 1/72, but I’m curious if he used Revell’s EIII for the completed ones or covered eduard’s in something. But since it was the championship, he could have scratchbuilt the uncovered one and wings and used eduard’s 1/48. Has anyone else seen or heard of this diorama. It looked really nice, especially the figures. == Jeff Hamblen NKJO-Opole, Poland ham545@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:39:36 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Bob Pearson Message-ID: <3556F188.66ECD7EE@ix.netcom.com> REwing wrote: > Anyone trying to get a hold of Bob or waiting for a reply from any > messages, won't hear from him right away. Got a phone call from him and > things still aren't working right. His computer that is. ;^) He'll rejoin us > when he can. > > -Rick- So. How do you get a computer or modem to take a Viagra? -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:09:38 -0700 From: Graham Nash To: World War 1 Modelling List Subject: Flying Machines Press-Update Message-ID: <199805111358.AA15688@egate2.citicorp.com> I just surfed over to their site, to find it substantial revised, although not yet working properly, but thought you'd like to read this: Flying Machines Press Future Projects Forthcoming Books=20 I. Books we have planned for 1998/1999 are listed below. Other planned titles will be announced as we receive completed manuscripts. All the books listed immediately below (1998=ADp;1999) will be soft-bound. Spring 1998 Medal of Honor Winners; American Aviators of WWI by Alan Durkota =B7 Biographies of the 8 American aviators who won the Medal of Honor in WWI. =B7 Color plates of all aircraft used in the Medal of Honor actions. =B7 100+ photos, 8.5"x11" format.=20 German Aircraft of WWI by Peter Grosz Volume 1: Pfalz =B7 150+ photos, 9"x12" format.=20 =B7 Scale drawings to both 1/48 and 1/72 scales. Fall 1998 British Colours and Squadron Markings of WWI, Volumes 1 and 2 by Les Rogers =B7 Covers all RFC, RNAS, and RAF squadrons of WWI and their markings. =B7 Each volume will have more than 400 photos. =B7 Each volume will have 40 color profiles. =B7 8.5"x11" format.=20 Winter 1998/1999 German Aircraft of WWI by Peter Grosz Volume 2: Aviatik =B7 100+ photos, 9"x12" format.=20 =B7 Scale drawings to both 1/48 and 1/72 scales. Spring 1999 German Aircraft of WWI by Peter Grosz Volume 3: AEG =B7 120+ photos, 9"x12" format.=20 =B7 Scale drawings to both 1/48 and 1/72 scales. II. Longer range projects we have in work include hard-bound books on Italian aces and Seeflieger, the Austro-Hungarian naval aircraft, which will be a companion work to our earlier Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War One. Note: Originally we intended to publish Peter Grosz's WWI German aircraft masterwork as several hard-bound volumes. This has proven too much to do at one time, so we are breaking this huge task into a series of soft-bound volumes, with each volume covering aircraft from a single manufacturer.=20 The format for the soft-bound volumes, 9"x12" page size, is exactly the same that we intended to use for the hard-bound series. Issuing the series as a larger number of soft-bounds not only makes it easier on all of us to produce, it also allows us more pages so we can include many more photos, more drawings, and more color profiles. Basically we expect to include about twice the number of photos previously planned, 50% more drawings, and more than twice the color profiles. Get those cheque books ready guys :^P ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:08:23 +0000 From: "Rob." To: wwi Subject: FMJ web site Message-ID: <199805111511.LAA10186@newman.concentric.net> The links all have a spurious directory in path. To view the pages, click on the link from the home page. You get a "Not found" message. In the Location box of your browser, delete the string "/public_html" from the URL and press return. This takes you to the page. Rob To e-mail me, replace the l with the numeral 1. Visit Chandelle, the Web Journal of Aviation History ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:27:57 -0700 From: thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) To: wwi Subject: Spoked wheels in WWI Aero? Message-ID: Hi all, Do any of you remember seeing an article in a recent issue of WWI Aero that covered details of the spoked wheels? I seem to remember the article, but can't for the life of me find it in my back issues. Thanks, Thayer -- Thayer Syme Model Aviation Homepage San Francisco http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:52:25 -0500 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: sale books Message-ID: <01BD7CDB.A6596380.panz-meador@vsti.com> just got the april 17 flyer from edward r. hamilton book sellers. i believe they have a web site, but don't remember the URL right now. things of list interest include: janes fighting a/c of ww1 @ 22.95USD, item 81895X and above the war fronts @ 33.56USD, item 241989; grub st. press, british 2 seater aces, aces of russian, belgium, italy, and A-H; compares with $47 & change from this month's squadron mail order flyer. phillip p.s. no bromowski distribution pic yet; busy weekend with daughter's guitar recital & mom's day... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NorEastcon Message-ID: Dear Gerald: Re your comment, "Yeah busts are big." Glad to hear you got hold of a pair of big busts this weekend. But do you really think this is the kind of info you should be sharing with the list? (ROTFL!) Engaging evasive manuevers, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:04:32 +0100 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: Flying Machines Press-Update Message-ID: <004501bd7d07$d4054480$570ce8c3@whatever> Looks like being an expensive year ... :-) I hear on the grapevine (from those who should know) that Les Rogers' book is what we in Yorkshire call a "stonker" - apparently he has found an example photo of virtually every variation of markings from every British squadron!!! Get my name on that list ... Andy K -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nash To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 11 May 1998 15:04 Subject: Flying Machines Press-Update >Fall 1998 >British Colours and Squadron Markings of WWI, Volumes 1 and 2 by Les Rogers >Covers all RFC, RNAS, and RAF squadrons of WWI and their markings. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:53:59 +0100 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: 1997 UK IMPS Message-ID: <004401bd7d07$cd045c20$570ce8c3@whatever> I suspect the chap in question is Joel Christie, a Canadian currently based in York, England. He specialises in WW1 aviation, and was in fact at our Cross & Cockade meeting in York on Saturday! As a non-modeller, I can safely say that the photos of his models & dioramas look "the business"!! He's currently into Big Bombers - HP 0/400, Staaken R etc - all scratchbuilt. Serious stuff :-) I don't know if Joel is on email - but his mate is, so I'll copy this to him and see if he fancies contributing. Andy K -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hamblen To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 11 May 1998 10:25 Subject: 1997 UK IMPS >Last month in the Polish magazine, „Plastic Fanatic”, they had some >pictures of the 1997 IMPS UK championship. One of the photographs was >of a diorama of the Fokker workshop by someone named Jael Christian. >It had 3 EIII’s in various stages of assembly, including one stripped >down and a couple of wings being covered by some workmen. There was >no other info. I imagine he used eduard’s 1/72, but I’m curious if >he used Revell’s EIII for the completed ones or covered eduard’s in >something. But since it was the championship, he could have >scratchbuilt the uncovered one and wings and used eduard’s 1/48. Has >anyone else seen or heard of this diorama. It looked really nice, >especially the figures. > > > > >== >Jeff Hamblen >NKJO-Opole, Poland >ham545@yahoo.com >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Toko Snipe -Reply Message-ID: Dear Pete and Shane: Shane's question is certainly valid, and Pete's answer is very well put. I know there are guys on this list to whom accuracy is everything, and I say more power to them, but I know I could drive myself absolutely nuts trying to correct every WWI (or WWII, for that matter!) kit that I want to build, or else never build anything for lack of reliable information. Nuts, I tell you! So I'm with Pete, if the kit looks right, and captures the feel of the original, why torture yourself trying to fix it! Having said that, I'll now admit that I've made very little progress on my Toko D.XII or my Pegasus Phonix D.I because of a lack of reliable data on the internal structure and cockpit details of these aircraft. . . so, I guess I've already driven myself nuts! Help me! BWWWWWWWWWWWWWFFFPPPLL, Patrick P.S. Did you know its almost impossible to build a model when you're not allowed to handle sharp objects? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:17:01 -0400 From: Carlos To: wwi Subject: 3 Questions Message-ID: <3557409D.378B396F@erols.com> Hello... I have 3 questions for the brain trust on this list: 1) Other then Temperature, Tachometer, Altimeter, Compass, maybe an Inclineometer and perhaps a clock, were there any other instruments used by any type of aircraft in WW1? I'm reading E.C.C.Genets' "An American for Lafayette", from which the next 2 questions arive from: 2) Were american letters home free from postal charges? How about american letters to other units? Edmond seems to write up to 5 letters a day. 3) Germans using Cocardes: in his Sun 25th March 1917 entry, he writes "...We saw several Boche machines at intervals and I chased one with Cocardes - the same design as the French and English identification mark on the wings-but with a black ring on the outside. Couldn't catch up with it. The Boches are even carring cocards now with the outside circle red like the Freanch but a black center in place of a blue one so there is going to be heaps of trouble in chasing after the right machines and looking out for those which look friendly but aren't. ..." Interesting! I guess thats not a question. Ok, here's the question: what else can you tell me about this practice? ====================================================================== Carlos ICQ# 1142918, MAPPC# 1068, EAA# 572117 Club 524, USUA Club #4, ASC, Nieuport 11 Plans #1116, League of WW1 Aviation Historians WW1 Pilots email daily: http://www.pro-pro.com/carlos/tow/towintro.htm ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Phonix Swirl: Message-ID: Gentlemen, Not to kick a horse which has been thoroughly tired and shagged-out after a prolonged trot, BUT I wish to correct a couple of errors which I perpetrated on this list last week; First, I've been using the term "Phonix Sworl" camo- its actually "Phonix Swirl" camo. Second, I said it was sprayed or applied with rags or sponges- wrong, it was never sprayed, only applied with rags or sponges. Third, I said that the Blue Rider decal sheet for the Phonix D.I/D.II also used the phrase, "Sworl Camo". I checked, and it doesn't. It describes the pattern but never uses the phrase "sworl." As you can see, I was doing some checking up on myself this weekend. Minor points perhaps, but I didn't want to be responsible for having passed on bad information without correcting it. I've told myself time and again not to trust my memory. But then I forget! For anyone interested, there is an excellent, concise description of Phonix Swirl camo on page 470 of the FMP A/H Army A/C book. yes, this all ties in to the Pegasus Phonix which I'm not making much progress on. Anybody got Interior/ cockpit info on this bird? I have the datafile, but its not very helpful on internal details. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:42:22 EDT From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: 1997 UK IMPS Message-ID: <67fef4f7.3557468f@aol.com> In a message dated 98-05-11 14:14:57 EDT, you write: << He's currently into Big Bombers - HP 0/400, Staaken R etc - all scratchbuilt. Serious stuff :-) >> The man is obviously nuts. (I'm not alone I'm not alone!) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:42:23 EDT From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: 3 Questions Message-ID: <56bf35a9.35574690@aol.com> In a message dated 98-05-11 14:19:36 EDT, you write: << 1) Other then Temperature, Tachometer, Altimeter, Compass, maybe an Inclineometer and perhaps a clock, were there any other instruments used by any type of aircraft in WW1? >> Rotary engined aircraft would have an oil pulsator- a kind of fat upside down test tube looking glass doo-dad that indicated that the oil was flowing. The oil would pulse up into this tube. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:47:58 -0500 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 3 Questions Message-ID: <01BD7CE3.696B44E0.panz-meador@vsti.com> carlos: in answer to your question no. 3, the roundel was at least a candidate insignia in the pre-war period. this was the former version you mention, red-white-black from inside-out (this was similar to the roundel or cockarde worn on german uniform headgear as the "empire color" i guess you'd call it--a "state color" cockarde was also worn on the headgear as well, e.g. prussia). another was a simple black chordwise stripe and still another was a checkerboard pattern: if you imaging a 3x3 checkerboard (like a tic-tac-toe layout) the center square was red and the outer 4 corners were black. all this and MORE in a.e. ferko's "die fliegertruppe", as available thru the UTD library. HTH, phillip -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [SMTP:chatten@erols.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 1:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: 3 Questions Hello... I have 3 questions for the brain trust on this list: 1) Other then Temperature, Tachometer, Altimeter, Compass, maybe an Inclineometer and perhaps a clock, were there any other instruments used by any type of aircraft in WW1? I'm reading E.C.C.Genets' "An American for Lafayette", from which the next 2 questions arive from: 2) Were american letters home free from postal charges? How about american letters to other units? Edmond seems to write up to 5 letters a day. 3) Germans using Cocardes: in his Sun 25th March 1917 entry, he writes "...We saw several Boche machines at intervals and I chased one with Cocardes - the same design as the French and English identification mark on the wings-but with a black ring on the outside. Couldn't catch up with it. The Boches are even carring cocards now with the outside circle red like the Freanch but a black center in place of a blue one so there is going to be heaps of trouble in chasing after the right machines and looking out for those which look friendly but aren't. ..." Interesting! I guess thats not a question. Ok, here's the question: what else can you tell me about this practice? ====================================================================== Carlos ICQ# 1142918, MAPPC# 1068, EAA# 572117 Club 524, USUA Club #4, ASC, Nieuport 11 Plans #1116, League of WW1 Aviation Historians WW1 Pilots email daily: http://www.pro-pro.com/carlos/tow/towintro.htm ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 20:21:48 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: 3 Questions Message-ID: <199805112014.PAA09205@sam.on-net.net> ) Other then Temperature, Tachometer, Altimeter, Compass, maybe an > Inclineometer and perhaps a clock, were there any other instruments used by > any type of aircraft in WW1? > >> Some other items would be, Fuel pressure gauges, (one for the main fuel tank, one for the reserve), rarely a oil, or "Oel" or "Ol" pressure gauge, a fuel gauge, (normally mounted on/above the fuel tank), the anemometer, or air speed indicator, was normally a self continued unit mounted on the wing strut, although there was a pi tot tube variation that went back to a mounted instrument, (normally mounted with springs), and of course you have your mag switch, and hand crank magneto. It depended upon what type of power plant, in line or rotary, as to what instrumentation one would have. You may also have a hand operated air pump to pressurize the tanks, but this is really not a instrument. Best Wishes Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:50:18 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: More on the Toko Snipe Message-ID: Hello, (Note: I sent this message to the list yesterday, but didn't get a bounce back - if it has posted already, please delete. Thanks.) Picked up the Toko Snipe today, and although another listmember has already reviewed it for us, I thought I'd add a few more observations. I put it up to the Datafile drawings and (assuming the Datafile drawings are correct), like the Czech resin, the Toko fuselage is a bit too long. The wings are OK, but have the later ailerons (inappropriate for Barker's machine). I think that sanding the ailerons down, combined with putty and rescribing detail, will get you to the early version of the Snipe. The fin and rudder are also of the late type, but too small. Unfortuately, this piece is also molded quite thick (oddly, the only clunky molding). Carving and sanding (or scratch-building) will get you to the early fin & rudder. There still exists that faint fabric texture on the flying surfaces evident in the Pfalz and SSW kits, so the "texture for the benefit of lozenge decal" theory is out the window. Fuselge detail, engine and guns are all nice, but the wheels are small. There is no interior cockpit wall detail as seen in the two other Toko kits. All moldings are crisp with zero flash. Kind of a mixed bag, but when you throw in those nice decals and are only paying $11 Canadian, I'm happy. Anyone care to forward their favoured method of getting Barker's fuselage stripes onto this machine? Kevin Barrett nr: Ace of the Iron Cross nb: Pegasus LVG C.VI (rebuild!), Toko Pfalz D.XII (to relax), Airfix Pup (painting) nl: Classic Queen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:55:56 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Toko Snipe -Reply Message-ID: <199805111856_MC2-3CA4-6C36@compuserve.com> >P.S. Did you know its almost impossible to build a model when you're not= allowed to handle sharp objects?< Well you might get a nasty prick. ;-) Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:55:52 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Flying Machines Press-Update Message-ID: <199805111856_MC2-3CA4-6C33@compuserve.com> >I hear on the grapevine (from those who should know) that Les Rogers' bo= ok >is what we in Yorkshire call a "stonker" - apparently he has found an >example photo of virtually every variation of markings from every Britis= h >squadron!!! Whereabouts in Yorkshire? I didn't know we had a tyke on board. Geoff ( in Lancs) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:51:57 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: R-Planes Message-ID: <3557810D.1DA0@worldnet.att.net> The WWI Aero Book Shop at Noreastcon had a copy of an R-Planes book, issued in the early '60s I think. It was $95.00, so I put it back without looking too much (why torture myself?). What can you guys tell me about it? Was that a good price? John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:25:30 -0500 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: R-Planes Message-ID: <01BD7D0A.2E94F1A0.panz-meador@vsti.com> great book--bad price. check out http://www.brasseys.com/ for the putnam series. the current edition of R-planes is listed at 30GBP, which i take to be on the order of 45USD. HTH, phillip -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski [SMTP:Janah@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 6:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: R-Planes The WWI Aero Book Shop at Noreastcon had a copy of an R-Planes book, issued in the early '60s I think. It was $95.00, so I put it back without looking too much (why torture myself?). What can you guys tell me about it? Was that a good price? John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:21:07 -0400 From: "CHARLES JOHNSON" To: Subject: Re: Data Files for trade Message-ID: <19980512002220.AAA22098@default> John, I dont have anything to trade, but would love to have # 9 Fokker D VII, If no one trades for it would you consider selling,and at what price Thanks Charles Johnson ---------- > From: John Huggins > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Data Files for trade > Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 11:35 PM > > I was going through my Datafile listing today and noticed that I have a few > dupes. I will list these and the list of 22 I don't have. I would like to > trade if any one can fill my list, please E-mail directly and I will get > back to you. To give the list meembers fair chance to resond, I will not > make any comments untill next weekend. All books are in new condition. > > My Dupes > #9 Fokker D VII > #31 Phonix D.I/D.II > #32 Spad 13C1 > #33 Junker DI > #34 Sopwith 1 1/ Strutter > > My Shortages > #1 Albatross DIII > #3 Albatross DV > #5 Fokker Dr I > #6 Sopwith Camel > #7 Pfalz D.III > #8 Spad 7 > #10 RAF SE 5a > #11 Albatross DII > #13 Albatross C.III > #14 RAF Be 2e > #16 Morane Type L > #17 LVG C.VI > #18 RAF Fe 2b > #23 Hanover CL.II > #25 Fokker D.VIII > #26 Sopwith Camel > #27 Halberstadt CL.IIL > #37 Roland D.VI > #41 Pfalz D XII > #45 Aviatik Berg DI > #52 Bristol M 1 > #60 Sopwith Baby > > I also have Dupes on the following specials: > Albatross Fighters > Fokker Dr I > Let me know if you have any of the specials you want to trade. > I will let you know on these. > John > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:22:41 EDT From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: R-Planes Message-ID: <1cb9b26f.35579652@aol.com> In a message dated 98-05-11 18:59:31 EDT, you write: << The WWI Aero Book Shop at Noreastcon had a copy of an R-Planes book, issued in the early '60s I think. It was $95.00, so I put it back without looking too much (why torture myself?). What can you guys tell me about it? Was that a good price? John Cyg.>> Sounds like the all-time R-plane classic by Grosz and Haddow. It's since been through a couple of updates and revisions and the current version is much less. If you like R-planes at all, get this book. $95 might be a fine price for a book collector, but if you're really after the content, rather than a rare stack of ink-covered paper and cardboard, go for the new one. Robert K. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1019 **********************