WWI Digest 814 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Tom Harrison Trophy by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 2) Re: Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah by T HENRYS 3) Re: Kit of the year by Franco Poloni 4) Re: aerial photography by Matthew Zivich 5) Re: aerial photography by "Sandy Adam" 6) Re: Merlin Friedrichshafen G.III by TPT PUMPER 7) Off Topic Request - Selfridge's by John & Allison Cyganowski 8) Re: Munson accuracy, continued by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 9) No German flame-thrower references? Mr. Hustad? by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 10) Re: Munson accuracy, continued by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 11) Re: No German flame-thrower references? Mr. Hustad? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:56:50 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Tom Harrison Trophy Message-ID: <349C06E2.2D9F@ricochet.net> I was fortunate enough to be at the right IPMS meeting at the right time and inadvertantly attracted the attention of Tom himself (of Tom's Modelworks) with my latest modest effort (Airfix Walfish). On hearing of my having access to this list, he asked me if I would announce a trophy that he will be offering for the best WWI subject at the IPMS Nationals in July (?) at Santa Clara here in the S.F. Bay Area. The only rule is, the model has to start out as a kit-no scratchbuilts. This is an attempt to give mere mortals like most of us a chance. Tom recounted how he had entered a Bristol boxkite in an IPMS contest in the '80s complete with reference photos and had been disqualified because it lacked decals. He became understandably disillusioned and discontinued his active participation in IPMS, although he does (obviously) turn up from time to time. Amongst other things, he mentioned a planned Halberstadt D.I-III. I'd like to conclude by saying that Tom is a one of the most decent chaps I've ever met. -- --------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Riordan and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Holiday Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:49:43 EST From: T HENRYS To: wwi Subject: Re: Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah Message-ID: <2fe5f5ac.349bf72a@aol.com> In a message dated 97-12-18 21:19:57 EST, you write: << Let me take a brief moment to thank Pedro, Alberto, Carlos, Bill, Todd, Joey and anyone I may have forgotten for your kind thoughts. The elbow surgery went ok. I'll be in a cast for another week, so that Ansaldo will end up being a delayed present for my friend. Season's greetings to all on the list, my second family. 1-handed typing, not to mention rigging, is hard, so it's back into lurk mode. Mike Muth >> Here, here. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, & Season's Greetings to all of you and your families. I hope all of you have a safe and happy season (and maybe someone will give you a nice model fro X-mas. Personally, I'm betting on an Eduard Albatros from the wife {crossing fingers}) Get well soon Mike, Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:01:03 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit of the year Message-ID: <199712180901.JAA14196@lo.itline.it> >Copper State Dornier D.I >Unusual subject, beatuful crisp mouldings, lots of bits - duplicate resin >and metal, comprehensive trannies, great colour scheme. Everybody will say >"What is it?" followed by "Where can I get it?" > >Come on then. Lets hear them. >Sandy > > Hi All well, I'm not sure if this was released in '96 or '97 but I bought it this year, so.... my vote goes to Skybirds '86 Friedrichshafen GII beautifull model, unfortunately ill-treated by Windsock Int. in vol 13/5 ciao and Happy Christmas to all of you. Franco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:31:41 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: aerial photography Message-ID: Robt. & others, I'm sorry I forgot to mention my aerial photo is a real photograph taken in 1918 by some observer/photographer from the 93 Squad. and not a printed book photo. It depicts "Tour de Mars" and is dated 8 ll 18 which could either be Aug. 11th or Nov. 8th, 1918. I believe I see some typical tree-lined French roads with the trees in full bloom so it's probably August. It's probably not priceless, since there are no doubt thousands still around. I'm going to mount and frame it non the less just to preserve it. Apparently the previous owner tucked it away in his\her "Aces of the 1914-18 War" and forgot about it. There is also an interesting article from a local Michigan newspaper tucked away inside the book as well. It announces the death of Col. Gen. Ernst Udet and was apparently saved by one of the book's owners. Matt Z On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, KarrArt wrote: > In a message dated 97-12-19 20:39:22 EST, you write: > > << New subject: Does anyone have a comment to make about WWI aerial > photos. I found one in a second-hand Harleyford book. It's a shot of the > western > front taken possibly a few days before the Armistice. It's in very good > shape, a bit sepia in color, but otherwise quite legible. It was taken > by an Amer. observation unit. > > Matt Z >> > There are quite a few interesting aerial shots from the war.Pictorial > History of the German Army Air Service by Alex Imrie has a couple of good > ones.One is of the Pyramids at Gizeh taken from a Rumpler of FA300. Since this > mission involved only one airplane, the Germans released a version of this > photo showing the plane that took the photos retouched into the shot.The other > good one is of London taken July 7, 1917 from 14,000' by a Gotha. > Rimell's World War One In The Air, No.9 in the Vintage Warbird series, is a > truckload of aerial stuff. > Robert > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:05:43 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: aerial photography Message-ID: <199712202208.WAA29404@beryl.sol.co.uk> George Murdoch at Armchair Auctions has a sepia aerial photo of Passchendaele taken 12/11/17 in this month's auction. He estimates this 8.5"x6.5" original, showing duckboards and the like, will go for 20-30GBP Sandy ---------- > From: Matthew Zivich > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: aerial photography > Date: 20 December 1997 21:35 > > Robt. & others, > > I'm sorry I forgot to mention my aerial photo is a real > photograph taken in 1918 by some observer/photographer from the 93 > Squad. and not a printed book photo. It depicts "Tour de Mars" and is > dated 8 ll 18 which could either > be Aug. 11th or Nov. 8th, 1918. I believe I see some typical tree-lined > French roads with the trees in full bloom so it's probably August. > It's probably not priceless, since there are no doubt thousands > still around. I'm going to mount and frame it non the less just to > preserve it. Apparently the previous owner tucked it away in his\her > "Aces of the 1914-18 War" and forgot about it. > There is also an interesting article from a local Michigan newspaper > tucked away inside the book as well. It announces the death of Col. Gen. > Ernst Udet and was apparently saved by one of the book's owners. > > Matt Z > On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, KarrArt wrote: > > > In a message dated 97-12-19 20:39:22 EST, you write: > > > > << New subject: Does anyone have a comment to make about WWI aerial > > photos. I found one in a second-hand Harleyford book. It's a shot of the > > western > > front taken possibly a few days before the Armistice. It's in very good > > shape, a bit sepia in color, but otherwise quite legible. It was taken > > by an Amer. observation unit. > > > > Matt Z >> > > There are quite a few interesting aerial shots from the war.Pictorial > > History of the German Army Air Service by Alex Imrie has a couple of good > > ones.One is of the Pyramids at Gizeh taken from a Rumpler of FA300. Since this > > mission involved only one airplane, the Germans released a version of this > > photo showing the plane that took the photos retouched into the shot.The other > > good one is of London taken July 7, 1917 from 14,000' by a Gotha. > > Rimell's World War One In The Air, No.9 in the Vintage Warbird series, is a > > truckload of aerial stuff. > > Robert > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:20:37 EST From: TPT PUMPER To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Friedrichshafen G.III Message-ID: <854d1126.349c60d7@aol.com> In a message dated 97-12-20 09:20:11 EST, you write: > There's a hobby shop in St. ouis with a couple. The owner is saddened that > we > all just look at the box, see the Merlin name and turn up our noses. > Then he would be just plain depressed at the reaction to a Meikraft . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:07:09 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Off Topic Request - Selfridge's Message-ID: <349C87DD.313B@worldnet.att.net> To the British contingent: Does Selfridge's Depatment store have a web page? Many Thanks John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:33:18 -0500 From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Munson accuracy, continued Message-ID: <199712210333.WAA28216@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 04:11 PM 12/19/97 -0500, Matthew Zivich wrote: >New subject: Does anyone have a comment to make about WWI aerial >photos. I found one in a second-hand Harleyford book. It's a shot of the >western >front taken possibly a few days before the Armistice. It's in very good >shape, a bit sepia in color, but otherwise quite legible. It was taken >by an Amer. observation unit. Natt I believe there's a whole book with Aerials shots. I forget who put it out...Arms & Armour? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:23:43 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: No German flame-thrower references? Mr. Hustad? Message-ID: <349CA7DF.6FC2@ricochet.net> Can it be that no one on this list has a single solitary picture or drawing of a WWI flame-thrower in the vast and mouldering stacks of your personal reference libraries? Mr Hustad, are you out there? >-------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Riordan and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Holiday Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:30:28 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Munson accuracy, continued Message-ID: <349CA974.25D0@ricochet.net> KarrArt wrote: > I don't recall if they ran perp. or parallel to the wings and body. > I'm interested enough in this obscure camo to ask for a copy of the page from the Munson book. Robert, if you'd be so kind? Anything the library might have is of course yours for the asking. Merry Xmas -- --------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Riordan and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Holiday Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:39:56 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: No German flame-thrower references? Mr. Hustad? Message-ID: <199712210539.AA12835@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan wrote: > >Can it be that no one on this list has a single solitary picture or >drawing of a WWI flame-thrower in the vast and mouldering stacks of your >personal reference libraries? Mr Hustad, are you out there? Try the "trenches on the web" page. Alas, only my "text only" net access is working at present but running the "trenches on the web" search engine for "flamethrower" turns up an image which the caption _says_ is a photo of a German flamethrower. 'Course, I can't actually _see_ the photo so I can't promise what it actually does show. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 814 *********************