WWI Digest 762 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: the bridge back by "Sandy Adam" 2) Re: WW I in color by Suvoroff@aol.com 3) Re: a neat site by Graham Nash 4) Decals by mbittner@juno.com 5) Re: a neat site by mbittner@juno.com 6) Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia by mbittner@juno.com 7) Re: a neat site by Graham Nash 8) Books Found by Graham Nash 9) Re: the bridge back by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 10) Tsing Tau - was: WWI in Asia by "Sandy Adam" 11) Re: Decals by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 12) Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 13) Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia/C&C cd by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 14) Re: Books Found by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 15) Air-Britain books by Charles Hart 16) Re: Books Found by Graham Nash 17) Bleriot XI by REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com 18) Re: Bleriot XI by Charles Hart 19) Re: WWI in Asia? by BStett3770@aol.com 20) Re: Bleriot XI by Franco Poloni 21) Toko kits by Carlos Valdes 22) Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia by B-A-L 23) Re: 11-11-18 by B-A-L 24) Re: Books Found by DavidL1217@aol.com 25) Re: Books Found by B-A-L 26) Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia/C&C cd by John & Allison Cyganowski 27) Re: WWI in Asia? by John & Allison Cyganowski 28) Strut Stock by John & Allison Cyganowski 29) Robert Alexander Little by Bob Pearson 30) Re: Robert Alexander Little by B-A-L 31) Re: Bleriot XI/Aeroplane Books by B-A-L 32) Re: Hansa Brandenburg D.I by B-A-L 33) Re: Bleriot XI by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 34) Re: the bridge back by KarrArt@aol.com 35) C&C on CD by KarrArt@aol.com 36) Aurora smell by KarrArt@aol.com 37) Re: Strut Stock by mgoodwin@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:38:09 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: the bridge back Message-ID: <199711130939.JAA27382@beryl.sol.co.uk> Auroras smelled nothing like Revell or Airfix or > any other brand.If the kit was, oh, say, the Fokker D VII, the first 2 > impressions were the dark shiny green plastic and then the smell. I don't > know if it came from the packaging or their exact plastic formula- what ever > it was, it was distinct. Yep, remember it exactly - I reckon it must have been the plastic - as the first nine scouts in the UK were packaged in bags and still had the distinctive smell. I used to build lots of the figures (which also had "the smell") - there was a tremendous range before the monsters appeared. I remember doing the Three Musketeers and D'Artagnan as an ornament for my grandmother - the bases of all four kits all fitted together so the swords all met at the top. I see vast prices asked here for Captain Kidd but never a mention of the really interesting subjects like these and the Chinese Mandarin. Also I must have built dozens of the Knights. Who remembers the Gold Knight of Nice on his horse? Do you ever see these at swap meets in the US? What sort of prices? Sorry to go off subject but I think Aurora is still close to most hearts here. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:59:25 -0500 (EST) From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WW I in color Message-ID: <971113045925_-489329979@mrin79> As any descendant of the Lowland Scots (such as I am) would know, only effete Englishmen spell their last name Gray with an 'e'. Yours, James D. GrAy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:20:16 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: a neat site Message-ID: <199711131005.AA10004@egate2.citicorp.com> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: The squadron itself is extensively documented. Here's the > address; > www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7133 > It's ran by a guy named Dan Conover > This address does not appear to work for me, and an hour or two searching on the Web revealed nothing. Could you re-chck the URL? Many thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:56:38 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Decals Message-ID: <19971113.045639.14774.6.mbittner@juno.com> I have just acquire an extra set of Blue Rider decals: Red Hungarian Air Corps Markings 1919 It has decals for Fokker D.VII's, an UFAG C.I, and an Aviatik Berg D.I. Anyone interested? Riordan? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:54:30 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: a neat site Message-ID: <19971113.045639.14774.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:09:07 -0500 Graham Nash writes: >> www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7133 >This address does not appear to work for me, and an hour or two >searching on the Web revealed nothing. > >Could you re-chck the URL? I have been there numerous times these past few days, and it is indeed working. Be sure the capitalizations are correct, as they are important. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:54:41 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia Message-ID: <19971113.045639.14774.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:51:26 -0500 KarrArt@aol.com writes: > When I saw this posting I thought"I must have something!" I > scurried for my stash of C&C (U.S.A.) and leafed through all the > ones that I have- I found little bits and pieces here and there > about Macedonian oprerations- but nothing earth shattering was > noticable in the quickie run-through I performed. BUT this > process did start me to wondering about C&C . Who owns the > rights? It struck me that all the issues could be put on one > CD-ROM and sold for a fraction of what a complete old fashioned > paper set now costs. This would also help preserve this > tremendous work. The early ones tended to be a little on the " > his chattering Spandaus were breathing down my neck" style, but > as the series progressed it got deeper into the more serious > aspects of the field.Any thoughts out there? Would anybody pop > for a set at maybe less than a 1/4 of the current cost?Just > curious.But, damn, it seems like a good idea if someone would do > it. That's a great idea, Robert. I would be more than willing to pay for something like that. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:49:12 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: a neat site Message-ID: <199711131134.AA11827@egate2.citicorp.com> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:09:07 -0500 Graham Nash > writes: > > >> www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7133 > > >This address does not appear to work for me, and an hour or two > >searching on the Web revealed nothing. > > > >Could you re-chck the URL? > > I have been there numerous times these past few days, and it is indeed > working. Be sure the capitalizations are correct, as they are important. > > Matt Bittner All working now-many thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:48:29 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Books Found Message-ID: <199711131333.AA14322@egate2.citicorp.com> I've just found the following:- Harleyford's Bombers & Recce- GBP10.00 (Dagnabit-I paid GBP70.00 for mine) This copy has no dust cover and the spine is damaged-the bookshop describes its condition as 'poor' however the contents seem to all be there. If anythings missing I can copy from mine. I could arrange for a colour photocopy of the front dustcover (slightly tatty)of my copy. Arms & Armour Vintage Warbirds No 7-Air War over Great Britain, 1914-18 by R L Rimell GBP5.00 Contact me if anyone's interested. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:57:15 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: the bridge back Message-ID: <199711131400.IAA23389@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Sandy wrote: > I see vast prices asked here for Captain Kidd but never a mention of > the really interesting subjects like these and the Chinese Mandarin. > Do you ever see these at swap meets in the US? What sort of prices? Sandy, I have picked up two of the knights-Blue and Black-in recent years for the cost of $10 each. The story was that some distributor was cleaning out his warehouse and "found" several stacks of the figures that had been over-looked. At least, this was what the store owner told me, make your own conclusion. I remember a friend of mine was looking for the "Steve Canyon" figure about five or six years ago. He found one, and I seem to remember it was priced in the $100-$150 range. He settled for the Air Force figure (same kit, different box) for about half that price. I have rarely found any of the Aurora figures, other than the Universal Studios Monsters, at any swap meets or shops. Too bad, if you find an old Aurora catalog, you can see that there was quite a diversity of subjects available. I do know a guy who has the old Aurora Koala kit--it even has fake fur in it! Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:52:05 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Tsing Tau - was: WWI in Asia Message-ID: <199711131352.NAA03868@beryl.sol.co.uk> > > If memory serves me right, there is a photograph in one of the Air-Britain > books (RN Serials I think), of a Camel with the name TsingTau emblazoned > on the fuselage side with a flourish. I seem to be answering my own mail now!!! But if anyone is interested, the Camel is in the A-B RN book p335. Its B6243 flown by FSL AJB Tonks of 4/204Sqn and has "Tsing Tau" in ornate script on two lines between cockpit and roundel on port fuselage side. The "T"'s are larger than the rest and extend, one above the other roughly, from lacing to bottom longeron. Wonder of Tonks had any Chinese connections? Sandy BTW This book is an even more cracking bargain from A-B - It only costs 10GBP and that includes UK postage. Since I bought it and the Shipboard book together (again 10GBP incl p&p) the total stamps on the parcel showed almost 5GBP. So I got two large, heavy books packed with photos and info for about 15GBP!!!! Overseas is even more astonishing - you only add an extra 10% for surface!! - 11GBP each!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:56:46 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: <346B152E.556B@ricochet.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > I have just acquire an extra set of Blue Rider decals: > > Red Hungarian Air Corps Markings 1919 > > It has decals for Fokker D.VII's, an UFAG C.I, and an Aviatik Berg D.I. > Anyone interested? Riordan? > > Matt Bittner Thanks for the thought, Matt. Got that one already, mostly for the data sheet. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:04:15 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia Message-ID: <346B16EF.6CA1@ricochet.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Would anybody pop for a set at > maybe less than a 1/4 of the current cost? I jolly well would, but I imagine the royalties situation would be impossible, what with so many authors...unless C&C itself put it out in bound volumes. Alas, front money for this would have to come from somewhere. Ah, but we can dream... Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:10:46 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia/C&C cd Message-ID: <346B1876.60AD@ricochet.net> Oh, a CD. I only had to read the message twice for that part to sink in.If this had an index, it would be wonderful! Or do you not need one with the search engines today? (Please forgive my technopeasant level of knowledge.) Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:53:18 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found Message-ID: <346B226E.2E9F@ricochet.net> Graham Nash wrote: > > Arms & Armour Vintage Warbirds No 7-Air War over Great Britain, 1914-18 > by R L Rimell GBP5.00 This probably a silly question, but it's mainly home defense fighters, Zeppelins, Gothas and a few R-planes then? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:10:17 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Air-Britain books Message-ID: >Sandy wrote: > >BTW This book is an even more cracking bargain from A-B - It only costs >10GBP and that includes UK postage. Since I bought it and the Shipboard >book together (again 10GBP incl p&p) the total stamps on the parcel showed >almost 5GBP. So I got two large, heavy books packed with photos and info >for about 15GBP!!!! >Overseas is even more astonishing - you only add an extra 10% for surface!! >- 11GBP each!! I will readily second Sandy's view of these two books, tons of information and lots of photos (the RN serials book is over 400 pages!), all for much less than the price of two Datafiles (at least the prices we pay here in the US). Go figure. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:40:04 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found Message-ID: <199711131625.AA22651@egate2.citicorp.com> mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > > Graham Nash wrote: > > > > Arms & Armour Vintage Warbirds No 7-Air War over Great Britain, 1914-18 > > by R L Rimell GBP5.00 > > This probably a silly question, but it's mainly home defense fighters, > Zeppelins, Gothas and a few R-planes then? > > Riordan Yep, plus the odd Taube , Sablatnig SF5, Friedrichshafen's 29 and 33E and LVG C.VI. FYI-Charles Hart has first dibs on both books ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:28:35 -0600 From: REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com To: wwi Subject: Bleriot XI Message-ID: <00152A13.3370@ccmail.dsccc.com> Thanks to all for the recommendations. Several of you correctly recognized the Bleriot XI kit I purchased as a Blue Rider. Don't you hate it when you go to your local shop (Austin's excellent King's Hobby) for supplies and find a gem like that. I pulled the kit from a box and there were two more Blue Riders right behind it! I'm going "I did not see that. I did not see that!" One was an Italian pusher the other a Maurice Farman Shorthorn. Enjoyed the global weather update too. Regards, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:52:55 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Bleriot XI Message-ID: > Thanks to all for the recommendations. Several of you correctly > recognized the Bleriot XI kit I purchased as a Blue Rider. Don't you > hate it when you go to your local shop (Austin's excellent King's > Hobby) for supplies and find a gem like that. > I pulled the kit from a box and there were two more Blue Riders right > behind it! I'm going "I did not see that. I did not see that!" > One was an Italian pusher the other a Maurice Farman Shorthorn. > > Enjoyed the global weather update too. > > Regards, > Richard What was the asking price on the other two Blue Rider kits ?? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:02:14 -0500 (EST) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI in Asia? Message-ID: <971113160214_-759386147@mrin41.mail.aol.com> Hi Riodan The book was published in 1994. I believe the address is the writer as I think its a self published book. Got mine down at the Over the Front Sem in Washington DC the other year. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:31:29 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: Re: Bleriot XI Message-ID: <199711110931.JAA10874@lo.itline.it> Hi all the Aircraft Archive books >Riordan > are those books still available somewhere? I've been looking for those books for years here in Italy but couldn't find it. regards Franco ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:26:55 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Toko kits Message-ID: <3469A08F.4882@conted.gatech.edu> If you're interested in these kits, take a look at http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/page.pl?p=1&d=a&c= for the box art of some of the upcoming WWI Toko injected kits. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:46:27 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia Message-ID: <346C2C03.2736@eis.net.au> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > BUT this process did start me to wondering about C&C . Who owns > the rights? It struck me that all the issues could be put on one CD-ROM and > sold for a fraction of what a complete old fashioned paper set now costs. > Robert Subject to Copyright - sounds good to me DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:53:36 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: 11-11-18 Message-ID: <346C2DB0.67C1@eis.net.au> BOB, RE R.A LITTLE The Littles are ( as I recall our fractured family tree ) 2nd Cousins on Mum's side - It starts to get incestuous doesn't it !! I don't know what the school might have but if you like I could write for you if you are after anything specfic - Another great untapped source here are the Returned Service Orginizations RSL Naval & Military Club Imperial Services Club and Specific Unit and Service Arm Libraries Of course I could see if Mum would be able to contact her erstwhile rellies too DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:52:27 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found Message-ID: <971113195226_2117821129@mrin47> I could be interested in the Bomber & Recce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:01:49 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found Message-ID: <346C2F9D.401A@eis.net.au> Grahame Ten Nicker !!! - If I haven't been piped, SOLD DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:49:15 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros G.IIIs over Macedonia/C&C cd Message-ID: <346BAE1B.7E28@worldnet.att.net> mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > > Oh, a CD. What an inspired idea! Fraught with legalities though. "Who owns the rights?" is the question. Would Cross & Cockade (GB) have rights here? What about the Over the Front group? The authors might be the least of your problems, since as I recall they didn't get paid for their articals. And if the magazines are in the public domain...how the hell do you protect an investment in the CD? Come on - we must have a lawyer in the group????? John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:57:38 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI in Asia? Message-ID: <346BB012.3E77@worldnet.att.net> BStett3770@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Riodan > > The book was published in 1994. > I believe the address is the writer as I think its a self published book. > Got mine down at the Over the Front Sem in Washington DC the other year. > > Keep Modeling > Barry > Rosemont Hobby This book "Dragon Master" is listed in the holiday Zenith Books Catalog. #120972E $15.00(US) (800)826-6600 (US) (715)294-3345 (all others) John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:03:32 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Strut Stock Message-ID: <346BB174.37ED@worldnet.att.net> I am looking for a source of ridgid plastic strut stock. Contrail, while nicly shaped is like working with linguine. Strutz is also nice, but I dont like to bend it and soldering it together is for the birds. Wood is for toothpicks. Anybody have any sources. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:15:30 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Robert Alexander Little Message-ID: <02153082605934@KAIEN.COM> David. Wow, the world just gets smaller and smaller. Along with Barker, Little and Dallas are two of the personalities that I find most fascinating. And now to find out that you are (however distantly) related to one of them . . I feel Little would be deserving of a good biography (not the drivel that appeared on him and Dallas by the late unlamented Douglass Whetton), however it was my understanding that the family wasn't disposed towards such happening (at least with their help) now due to Whetton's treatment and their feeling of being used to further his own agenda. But any information that you could find would be VERY appreciated as it is one of my ultimate goals to do a true biography on him, or at least use such material as is available in my future Naval Eight articles for OTF. My original plan was to do a BIG piece on 8(N), including a unit history, but with my taking over the markings column I will first just do a piece on their aircraft. However one day the real thing will be done as either an article or book. If it would help to show my seriousness, I could send along a copy of my No.3 Wing article. I have a copy of Little's combat reports and a short bio of him by the infamous TBA Graves (the fellow who robbed the PRO a few years ago) if you would like a copy. Back to the Insekt's ansteckung, I am now working on a 1/48 Sablatnig SF.5. Interestingly this doesn't appear to have crosses on the bottom wing, but under the upper wing instead. Regarding that poor bong possessing soul, no thanks I will go work in the steel warehouse and get nice and filthy and enjoy myself immensely instead, but thanks for asking anyway. Supper time. regards, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:53:12 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Robert Alexander Little Message-ID: <346C49B8.33C4@eis.net.au> Bob I will see if there's anything I can obtain at this end - It might assist in unclamming your average Librarian ( some of them seem to be the strangest aquisitive creatures ) if there was something to offer them - Like Your COPYRIGHTED material to add to their collection - If you can format in Corel or some other brand of Word Perfect ? The family will be an enirely different " kettle " though how much they are likely to have left I do not know - The Canberra War Memorial is notoriously assiduous ( or should that be insidious ) when it comes to gathering up material and then locking it away " safely " where it is henceforth to be accessed only with a good deal of stuffing about ! You would rightly surmise that I am not happy with them - I recently had to pay for BOTH access to and copies of some of my own Grandfathers documents YIKES YE GODS !!! Thanks for the last two Jpegs too and enjoy getting grubby again ! Hope it gores somewhere more permanent for you - You are going to be one tired little Vegemite !! best regards David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:16:44 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Bleriot XI/Aeroplane Books Message-ID: <346C4F3C.4192@eis.net.au> TO ALL RE AEROPLANE BOOKS ADDRESS AND INFORMATION MANY THANKS KIND REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:45:14 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Hansa Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <346C720A.2948@eis.net.au> Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > > David wrote: > > >You've mentioned Harry Woodman's drawings a couple of times in various > >threads Are these still available ANYWHERE ?? > > David, I have a three volume set called _Aircraft Archives_. It > covers many WWI types, with drawings from many people like Woodman > and Ian Stair. I purchased them through the Zenith Books catalog > (division of Motorbooks International) a few years ago. I received a > new catalog recently, but am not sure if they are still available. I > will check tonight when I get home and let you know tomorrow. I seem > to recall that they were about $15 each. > > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf Paul I was doing some house keeping in the Hard drive and stumbled across this one - If there was a second half to the Aircraft Archives via Zenith Publishing I don't seem to have kept it - Therefore with apologies TO YOU AND THE LIST !! ( acute embarrassment ) are the books still available ?? Thanks and kind regards DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:11:37 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Bleriot XI Message-ID: <346BEB99.590@ricochet.net> Franco Poloni wrote: > > Hi all > > the Aircraft Archive books > > >Riordan > > > are those books still available somewhere? > I've been looking for those books for years here in Italy but couldn't find it. > > regards > > Franco Franco, AFAIK, these much sought-after softcover books of accurate 1/72 drawings by Ian Stair and ? are out of print. Try specialty mail order, and if you find more than one set, let me know. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:23:59 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: the bridge back Message-ID: <971114012359_-1743635382@mrin40.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-13 08:54:37 EST, pauls@transcrypt.com writes: << I have picked up two of the knights-Blue and Black-in recent years for the cost of $10 each. The story was that some distributor was cleaning out his warehouse and "found" several stacks of the figures that had been over-looked. >>a couple of years ago Squadron Mail order had the Black Knight and sold it for dirt cheap- under $10 if I recall <>at the "collector"shows" here on the west coast the Air Foprce pilot has been showing up in a new RESIN version taken right off the old kit complete with a color photo copy of the original box top. This semi-pirated figure has been going for about $65-$75 << I have rarely found any of the Aurora figures, other than the Universal Studios Monsters, at any swap meets or shops. Too bad, if you find an old Aurora catalog, you can see that there was quite a diversity of subjects available. I do know a guy who has the old Aurora Koala kit--it even has fake fur in it! >> Aurora made all kinds of great and odd things.At said collector's show I've seen a Dutch Boy and girl,American Indian chief, the Mandarin and just about all the Aurora figures.Prices have ranged in the $100-$500 range.Buffaloes, and knights on horseback,famous boxing matches.Great stuff.(I also usually see plenty of Gothas) Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: C&C on CD Message-ID: <971114012757_259199307@mrin79> In a message dated 97-11-13 06:01:29 EST, mbittner@juno.com writes: << this > process did start me to wondering about C&C . Who owns the > rights? It struck me that all the issues could be put on one > CD-ROM and sold for a fraction of what a complete old fashioned > paper set now costs. >><< damn, it seems like a good idea if someone would do > it. That's a great idea, Robert. I would be more than willing to pay for something like that. Matt Bittner >> Anybody out there have a clue about the rights? Any OTFpeople-might they know? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Aurora smell Message-ID: <971114013654_1937360718@mrin46.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-13 04:45:18 EST, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << I used to build lots of the figures (which also had "the smell") - there was a tremendous range before the monsters appeared. I remember doing the Three Musketeers and D'Artagnan as an ornament for my grandmother - the bases of all four kits all fitted together so the swords all met at the top. I see vast prices asked here for Captain Kidd but never a mention of the really interesting subjects like these and the Chinese Mandarin. Also I must have built dozens of the Knights. Who remembers the Gold Knight of Nice on his horse? >>I do! Never had one but a friend of mine built it.I'll probably never have one- they run about $500 these days(I've thrown away and destroyed $10,000 worth of old kits in my day. Just shoot me) Robert <> Without Aurora and what they did for WW I airplanes, I know alot of people would have never taken up the interest. Their products may be crude by today's standard, but the Aurora pioneers desrve credit for launching the WW I bug in many of us. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:39:22 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Strut Stock Message-ID: <346BF21A.3D84@ricochet.net> John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > > I am looking for a source of ridgid plastic strut stock. Contrail, while nicly shaped > is like working with linguine. Strutz is also nice, but I dont like to bend it and > soldering it together is for the birds. Wood is for toothpicks. Anybody have any > sources. > > John John, You have touched on one of the ultimate quests of modeling biplanes: scale struts that are strong enough to hold up and hold together a model. With my K&B Breguet, I've resorted to brass wire for replacing the undercarriage and I may try a little blacksmithing. I think brass wire faired with .05 thou strip 'envelopes' may be a solution. Other people have successfully used paper clips and all manner of eccentric contrivances. Perhaps thin sprue could be heated up and pressed into oval section & sanded into shape. Probably a hairbrained idea, but that's the best I can do. Someone on the list must have tried this already. Odd that Contrail didn't use proper styrene. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 762 *********************