WWI Digest 750 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 1/48 Caproni by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 2) Re: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit announceme by mbittner@juno.com 3) Re: Pedro's Pup by mbittner@juno.com 4) Re: The List by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 5) Re: House Band: by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: 1/48 Caproni by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: foible spoofing by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: foible spoofing by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 9) RE: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit announceme by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 10) Re: House Band: by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 11) Re: 1/48 Caproni by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 12) Re: Pedro's Pup by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 13) Re: House Band: by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Re: 1/48 Caproni by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: 1/48 Caproni by Joey Valenciano 16) Re: Rigging -was Pedro's Pup by "Sandy Adam" 17) Re: Beardmore engines by "Rob" 18) Re: Rigging -was Pedro's Pup by KarrArt@aol.com 19) 1/48 Caproni by Geoff Smith 20) Re: Beardmore engines by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 21) Re: House Band: by DavidL1217@aol.com 22) Re: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit by DavidL1217@aol.com 23) Re: Beardmore engines by Geoff Smith 24) Emhar Anatra Anasal DS by kevinkim@interlog.com (barrett) 25) Re: Emhar Anatra Anasal DS by mbittner@juno.com 26) Re: Beardmore engines by "Rob" 27) Re: Beardmore engines by "Rob" 28) Re: 1/48 Caproni by "S.M.Sundberg" 29) Fokker Dr1 by "michell steel" 30) Re: Fokker Dr1 by "William B. Bacon, Jr." 31) Re: Beardmore engines by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: 1/48 Caproni by "Bill Ciciora" 33) Re: Beardmore engines by Bob Pearson 34) Re: Emhar Anatra Anasal DS by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 35) Re: 1/48 Caproni by Carlos Valdes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 06:36:10 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <346478DA.73C8@ricochet.net> Sandy Adam wrote: > I know it would depend on price - but providing it was reasonable, I would > have to say yes - any others? > Sandy > I'm game, provided sticker price is not more than about $60. What does everyone else think about pricing? Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:33:49 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit announceme Message-ID: <19971108.093354.13406.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:10:20 -0500 Shane Weier writes: > So folks - do you think I should start a Caproni Ca.3 next? Or > something simple, like a Big Ack? Shane, you could always build the Meikraft one and not worry about scratchbuilding one. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:31:05 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Pedro's Pup Message-ID: <19971108.093354.13406.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:31:59 -0500 bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) writes: > Nice job. Did you rig it? I was looking at mine this morning, > and thought it wouldn't be too hard to rig. Any hints? I've rigged an Airfix Pup, and besides having a lot of wires (not as much as the Tripe, though) it's not difficult. The hardest part is getting the wire to stay between the upper and lower ailerons. Then again, rigging 1/72nd biplanes is a piece of cake for me. Even easier is rigging Balloon Scale jobs. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:38:19 -0500 (EST) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: The List Message-ID: <971108103818_377991088@mrin84.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 08:58:33 EST, you write: > Now I have to find something else to do with my life. More > time for modelling? > > Yours, > James D. Gray > DING! DING! DING! I think this man is on to something! Pick a subject, tear into it and let us know how it's going. Have Fun!!' IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: House Band: Message-ID: <971108112048_-1442651114@mrin45.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 05:08:08 EST, you write: << Nieuport Convention >> Does that mean the band will have a cute girl singer who'll procede to fall down a flight of stairs? Robert (checking the steeleye wingspan of the latest Eduard) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <971108112756_1049050777@mrin38> In a message dated 97-11-08 06:34:48 EST, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << 1/48 Caproni bomber. I was asked not to mention the name of the individual but see how many would just say right off "Yes I'll buy one!" I know it would depend on price - but providing it was reasonable, I would have to say yes - any others? >> Though it's not really in my area of interest, that little voice in my head would start whispering "it's 1/48 it's 1/48 it's 1/48 buy buy buy".Then my wife woud start mumbling "why?why?why?".Then I would look all sad and suddenly out of nowhere a 1/48 Caproni would appear. Yes! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:35:46 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: foible spoofing Message-ID: <971108113546_797777309@mrin79> In a message dated 97-11-08 09:46:18 EST, you write: << Robert, they see at least a potential hope in there for you (and me--whew!). They are a kind and forgiving lot, aren't they? >> Why, yes what a wonderful and magnificent bunch.I sure they not only forgive but forget as well. Perhaps the finest group of people on Earth (there now- do you think I've kissed up enough so they'll respond promptly if I have a research request?) Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:58:03 -0500 (EST) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: foible spoofing Message-ID: <971108115801_-1811339826@mrin86.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 11:37:38 EST, you write: > Why, yes what a wonderful and magnificent bunch.I sure they not only forgive > but forget as well. Perhaps the finest group of people on Earth (there now- > do you think I've kissed up enough so they'll respond promptly if I have a > research request?) > > > > Robert OOH! Good move! What's that brown stuff on your nose? Ah, don't worry--it wipes off . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:09:14 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit announceme Message-ID: <199711081709.MAA03946@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:10 PM 11/7/97 -0500, Shane Weier wrote: > > Incidentally, this doesn't bother me at all since process rather >than product is my focus - I enjoy the challenge of the build and have >numerous quality kits sitting unbuilt while I work on turning out silk >purses from sows ears. > > So folks - do you think I should start a Caproni Ca.3 next? Or >something simple, like a Big Ack? Shane I agree with enjoying the process...however, my skill level is such that anything other than an out of the box approach is out of the question. I also note a tendency to "hurry up" right at the end, so I can put it behind(now that it's done) and start another one. No real rushing during the job...just at the end! The Big Ack sounds good to me. I don't think I've ever seen one built...or in person for that matter. Keep at the scratch-building. I figure one day, when my skills improve and before my eyesight goes, I might get to that level. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:09:15 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: House Band: Message-ID: <199711081709.MAA03957@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 02:38 AM 11/8/97 -0500, mark wrote: > >Nieuport Convention (probably only our Brit brethren will get this one...) Mark If you mean Fairport Convention, you'll be surprised how many colonials know of them. If you mean something else, you'll be comforted to know how stupid I can be! ;-) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:09:17 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <199711081709.MAA03967@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 09:49 AM 11/8/97 -0500, mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > >I'm game, provided sticker price is not more than about $60. What does >everyone else think about pricing? > >Cheers, > >Riordan Depends...Injection or resin or vac? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:09:19 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Pedro's Pup Message-ID: <199711081709.MAA03976@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:40 AM 11/8/97 -0500, mbittner@juno.com wrote: > >I've rigged an Airfix Pup, and besides having a lot of wires (not >as much as the Tripe, though) it's not difficult. The hardest >part is getting the wire to stay between the upper and lower >ailerons. > >Then again, rigging 1/72nd biplanes is a piece of cake for me. >Even easier is rigging Balloon Scale jobs. ;-) Matt Not when you're ham-handed like I am. Any rigging is a major accomplishment. Anyway, the Pup looked relatively easy.....Oh God, when have I used those words before.... Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:50:34 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: House Band: Message-ID: <971108125034_75994216@mrin52.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 12:40:25 EST, bucky@postoffice.ptd.net writes: << >Nieuport Convention (probably only our Brit brethren will get this one...) Mark If you mean Fairport Convention, you'll be surprised how many colonials know of them. Mike Muth >> I still play"Tam Lin" every Halloween.Terribly off-topic- but, geez, they were a good live band. Robert (covered in CrystalCote from the latest set of translucent wings) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:52:16 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <971108125215_2059316585@mrin53.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 12:40:42 EST, bucky@postoffice.ptd.net writes: << Depends...Injection or resin or vac? Mike Muth >> injection injection injection Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 01:59:55 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <199711081759.BAA12543@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> At 06:37 AM 11/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >Funnily enough I had a strange phone call from a well-known name in the >1/72 world after my conversations with Mike Eacock. >I was asked to see what the response would be from the list to a possible >1/48 Caproni bomber. Funny that a 1/72 maker thinks shifting to 1/48 to make a LARGE aircraft. >I was asked not to mention the name of the individual >but see how many would just say right off "Yes I'll buy one!" Count me in for one. >(Do I remember somebody else rumouring a possible Italian sourec Ca? >Franco?) Whatever happened to the rumour about an Italian firm doing 1/48 Caproni Triplane bomber? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:18:32 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Rigging -was Pedro's Pup Message-ID: <199711081819.SAA02187@beryl.sol.co.uk> > The hardest part is getting the wire to stay between the upper and lower ailerons. > Matt Bittner If you drill right through the aileron and drill half-depth holes for attachment points, you can slip a length (!!!) of mono thread through ailerons, then attach one end with CA glue on pin end to upper wing exit point. Let CA dry (seconds) and then attach self-locking tweezers to end of thread below bottom wing to apply tension; balance thread over control horn and touch CA on horn and both aileron holes. turn plane over until weight of tweezers is holding wire taught over under-control-horn and apply spot of glue. Finally cut thread to very slightly over length, push end into under attachment point hole and apply last drop of glue. You can use fine tweezers to tension the last bit close to the hole whilst gluing. It takes longer to write than it does to do! Only tricky bit is balancing thread on control horns if you've made 'em too sharp. I won't use anything other than mono thread these days - its so easy if you drill right through and rigging is now a highly enjoyable evening for a whole two-bay plane, control wires and all. It should work just as well for HSP as long as you are careful in bending it. Of course it takes a little longer to have to paint top wing after construction (and hole filling) but not really very much in practice. The time saved in rigging and the enhancement of pleaure in actually enjoying doing it, far outweighs this. The trick is to remember to drill all the holes at an early stage of construction, certainly before the top wing is in place. I only use this in 1/48 of course - where any mistake shows up like under a magnifying glass - should work just as well in your less demanding scale Matt. HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:55:45 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <199711081904.OAA01539@newman.concentric.net> Beardmores were basically pre-war Austro-Daimlers. They had pushrod overhead valves and nifty copper-sheet water jackets. The 120- and 160-hp differed in size, as one might have suspected. The 120-hp had a 130-mm (5.12-in) bore and a 175-mm (6.89-in) stroke, for a displacement of 850.5 cubic inches. It developed an actual 135 hp at 1200 rpm. The 160-hp model had a 142-mm (5.59-in) bore, a a 175-mm stroke, and displaced 1014.54 cubic inches, for an actual output of 180 hp at 1400 rpm. Wartime Jane's had good pictures of these (check your library). You might also look at the widely reprinted pre-war Jane's for shots of the early Austro-Daimlers. I doubt, however, that 120- and 160-hp Beardmores would show any obvious differences in typical modelling scales. After all, the engines differ only by 12 mm (.5 in) in bore, which would translate to a minuscule three-inch difference in length, plus something for thicker water jackets and such. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. > Bob was asking about drawings for the Beardmore 120hp. I believe the 160 > was basically a modified 120 initially in order to obtain a higher power > engine quickly. Anyone know what the differences were? Everyone who answe= > rs > no will be treated with suitable contempt, this is a serious request aime= > d > at building a file on engines. If anyone out there's interested I have > photos of the Rolls Royce Hawk, Eagle & Falcon preserved in the UK, taken= > > last weekend. Shane suggested asking Al to put some on the Web page. What= > > say you? = > > > Regards, > > Geoff. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:06:35 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging -was Pedro's Pup Message-ID: <971108140634_2059337296@mrin85.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-08 13:57:38 EST, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << I won't use anything other than mono thread these days - its so easy if you drill right through and rigging is now a highly enjoyable evening for a whole two-bay plane, control wires and all. >> Ah, Sandy- great minds think alike Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:13:31 -0500 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <199711081513_MC2-2760-2FC2@compuserve.com> >I know it would depend on price - but providing it was reasonable, I wou= ld have to say yes - any others?< Me too, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 09:26:53 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <3465F25D.382C@ConnectorSystems.co.nz> Rob wrote: > > Wartime Jane's had good pictures of > these (check your library). You might also look at the widely > reprinted pre-war Jane's for shots of the early Austro-Daimlers. I > doubt, however, that 120- and 160-hp Beardmores would show any > obvious differences in typical modelling scales. After all, the > engines differ only by 12 mm (.5 in) in bore, which would translate > to a minuscule three-inch difference in length, plus something for > thicker water jackets and such. Personally, I wouldn't worry about > it. > I think that with engines of this type there may have been enough meat in the beast to allow the extra bore without redesgning anything but the cylinder block and pistons - I don't see the manufacturer being terribly keen on retooling for new cranks and what have you if the increased power could be obtined through reboring the existing design. This might have been possible, so the two engines could thn be almost indistinguishable externally. Boring and stroking was a common way of getting more power from an existing design, occassioanlly with dire results in terms of reliability. What I would be tempted to do is to use the 120hp version dimensions in the absence of anything more definite - you don't have to make it work so just get it so it looks right. Cheers Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:55:34 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: House Band: Message-ID: <971108155534_-990010619@mrin85.mail.aol.com> I am a big Richard Thompson fan!!! Seen him twice at a small club in St Louis over the last 7 years. Phenominal. Fairports' great as well. Although not the same after Sandy Denny died. Yes, there are colonials who are in the know. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:58:14 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Pegasus: Albatros W.4 Floatplane & 1998-99 kit Message-ID: <971108155813_176599006@mrin45.mail.aol.com> I hope that Chris can begin molding his wings in one piece. Just "over the hump" in a life or death struggle with the Blue Max DH2. One thing all model companies could lerarn from Skybirds is the logical process of assembly Mike used. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:01:16 -0500 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <199711081601_MC2-2778-915E@compuserve.com> Rob replied: >Beardmores were basically pre-war Austro-Daimlers. They had pushrod = overhead valves and nifty copper-sheet water jackets. The 120- and = 160-hp differed in size, as one might have suspected. The 120-hp had = a 130-mm (5.12-in) bore and a 175-mm (6.89-in) stroke, for a = displacement of 850.5 cubic inches. It developed an actual = 135 hp at 1200 rpm. The 160-hp model had a 142-mm (5.59-in) bore, a = a 175-mm stroke, and displaced 1014.54 cubic inches, for an actual = output of 180 hp at 1400 rpm. = Wartime Jane's had good pictures of = these (check your library). You might also look at the widely = reprinted pre-war Jane's for shots of the early Austro-Daimlers. I = doubt, however, that 120- and 160-hp Beardmores would show any = obvious differences in typical modelling scales. After all, the = engines differ only by 12 mm (.5 in) in bore, which would translate = to a minuscule three-inch difference in length, plus something for = thicker water jackets and such. Personally, I wouldn't worry about = it.< Thanks for this. If I've got it right, this engine had a convoluted history. (As no doubt did others). Correct me if I'm wrong, Austro-Daimle= r - Beardmore 120 - Beardmore 160 - BHP-Galloway Adriatic - BHP-Siddeley Puma. I have photos of the last three and all seem to differ slightly at the top end. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:03:50 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Emhar Anatra Anasal DS Message-ID: To the list, Just picked up the Emhar 1/72 Anatra Anasal DS at the local game store (they keep a few models in stock). I was unfamiliar with Emhar kits, but I took a chance - and though a tiny bit on the "thick" side, it's very complete and looks enjoyably buildable. Problem is, the subject is obscure enough that I don't know where to start for reference materials. Any suggestions? In no rush, Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:21:42 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Emhar Anatra Anasal DS Message-ID: <19971108.152144.14358.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:07:16 -0500 kevinkim@interlog.com (barrett) writes: > Just picked up the Emhar 1/72 Anatra Anasal DS at the local game > store (they keep a few models in stock). I was unfamiliar with > Emhar kits, but I took a chance - and though a tiny bit on the > "thick" side, it's very complete and looks enjoyably buildable. > Problem is, the subject is obscure enough that I don't know > where to start for reference materials. Any suggestions? I show the following: IPMS/USA Update, Vol 19 No 5 Windsock, Best of Vol.2, Vol 1 No 4, Vol 8 No 5 WW1 Warplanes (Albatross book), Vol 2 That's about it. I'm sure there is more in the FMP book; unfortunately, I don't have it. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:21:49 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <199711082230.RAA16917@newman.concentric.net> The lineage cited below is correct. However, Beardmores were not precise Austro-Daimler copies, though Beardmore licensed A-D cars prewar, I believe. Nor would I try to back-detail a model from a BHP or Puma. The BHP/Galloway/Puma series were rather radical departures from Beardmore, with overhead cams and attempted lighter construction. None of them was ever as reliable as the Beardmore. > > Thanks for this. If I've got it right, this engine had a convoluted > history. (As no doubt did others). Correct me if I'm wrong, Austro-Daimle= > r > - Beardmore 120 - Beardmore 160 - BHP-Galloway Adriatic - BHP-Siddeley > Puma. I have photos of the last three and all seem to differ slightly at > the top end. > > Regards, > > Geoff > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:21:49 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <199711082230.RAA16939@newman.concentric.net> > I think that with engines of this type there may have been enough meat > in the beast to allow the extra bore without redesgning anything but the > cylinder block and pistons - I don't see the manufacturer being terribly > keen on retooling for new cranks and what have you if the increased > power could be obtined through reboring the existing design. This might > have been possible, so the two engines could thn be almost > indistinguishable externally. I agree in principle. But, like most WW1 engines, Beardmore's did not have cylinder blocks. They had a light-alloy crankcase with forged cylinders screwed in and water jackets brazed on. Upping the displacement by increasing the bore would have required new cylinders and pistons, perhaps with larger valves, but nothing else of consequence, as long as the bore centers were far enough apart to allow room. The crankcase would stay the same, but the cylinders would be a little more crowded (by a half inch per cylinder and a little for the jacket). Stroking would have required a new crank and connecting rods. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:32:03 -0600 From: "S.M.Sundberg" To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <3464E85D.5019@netins.net> Haven't reached limit on all my credit cards, so of course I would buy one. Decals, too? Steve S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:48:11 +0900 From: "michell steel" To: Subject: Fokker Dr1 Message-ID: <199711090010.TAA05014@pease1.sr.unh.edu> graham in Brisbane graham@powerup.com.au Hi guys. I am new to this list and my interest in ww1 aircraft is fairly recent. Well I suppose that I have the bug now after building my first 1/48 Eduard kit.(Morane Saulnier N) Even though I must have taken both wings off about three times in order to get the damn things square. I did mention to Shane Weire that in no way was I going to build another one of these plastic and crotchet (if thats how you spell it) nightmare kits. Much to his glee I am planning to build a 1/48 Dragon Dr1. So I believe that probably several of you guys have built this kit. Any tips on the build or the Streaky dope finish. I would like to build the Dr1 that Klimke flew but I understand that the commercially available decals are wrong (fuselage anchors black instead of yellow). Has anyone built this particular aircraft. Oh by the way Shane as the Bristol Fighter is soon to be available how about completing your scratchbuild with the "cloth off "along the fuselage. Ha ha.? Graham Steel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 18:48:17 -0600 From: "William B. Bacon, Jr." To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker Dr1 Message-ID: <34650851.673E@netjava.net> Graham, Welcome from the other side of the world. This one fine bunch of people and lots of fun is had by all. We are sometimes accused of being serious. As to the streaked finish, I bow to the experts. As always we are here to help. Cheers from Texas, Bill B. michell steel wrote: > > graham in Brisbane > graham@powerup.com.au > > Hi guys. > I am new to this list and my interest in ww1 aircraft is fairly recent. > Well I suppose that I have the bug now after building my first 1/48 Eduard > kit.(Morane Saulnier N) Even though I must have taken both wings off about > three times in order to get the damn things square. I did mention to Shane > Weire that in no way was I going to build another one of these plastic and > crotchet (if thats how you spell it) nightmare kits. > Much to his glee I am planning to build a 1/48 Dragon Dr1. > So I believe that probably several of you guys have built this kit. Any > tips on the build or the Streaky dope finish. I would like to build the Dr1 > that Klimke flew but I understand that the commercially available decals > are wrong (fuselage anchors black instead of yellow). Has anyone built this > particular aircraft. > > Oh by the way Shane as the Bristol Fighter is soon to be available how > about completing your scratchbuild with the "cloth off "along the fuselage. > Ha ha.? > > Graham Steel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:00:01 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <971108200000_1962139548@mrin40.mail.aol.com> Greetings -I've got 4 luxurious glistening color photos of the Champlin Beardmore if any one wants them- let me know- I shall scan and send- This isn't like the German Hangar fiasco- I'M HOLDING THE PICS IN MY HAND EVEN AS I TYPE! According to WWI Aero a couple of years back there is talk of building an FE2b around this engine. The photos: 3/4 view of it's right side from the front 3/4 view of right side from rear flat-on profile of left side closeup valve weirdness on top Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:02:39 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: Sandy asked: > I was asked to see what the response would be from the list to a possible > 1/48 Caproni bomber. I would buy one. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:18:26 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Beardmore engines Message-ID: <01182694825671@KAIEN.COM> Robert, Yes please, I would love copies - of course this is right after I finished my illustration of it for my FE2 profiles, but I can always update. Regards, Bob Pearson nb: MPM W.29 (thanks Pete - and Shane for the tips) nl: CBC Radio ---------- > From: KarrArt@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Beardmore engines > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:03:15 -0500 > > Greetings -I've got 4 luxurious glistening color photos of the Champlin > Beardmore if any one wants them- let me know- I shall scan and send- This > isn't like the German Hangar fiasco- I'M HOLDING THE PICS IN MY HAND EVEN AS > I TYPE! > According to WWI Aero a couple of years back there is talk of building an > FE2b around this engine. > The photos: > 3/4 view of it's right side from the front > 3/4 view of right side from rear > flat-on profile of left side > closeup valve weirdness on top > > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 18:03:02 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Emhar Anatra Anasal DS Message-ID: <346519D6.7EDF@ricochet.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > I show the following: > > IPMS/USA Update, Vol 19 No 5 > Windsock, Best of Vol.2, Vol 1 No 4, Vol 8 No 5 > WW1 Warplanes (Albatross book), Vol 2 > > That's about it. I'm sure there is more in the FMP book; > unfortunately, I don't have it. > I think the old Harleyford Bombers & Rece. book has it too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 07:57:41 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <346461C5.2A4E@conted.gatech.edu> > Whatever happened to the rumour about an Italian firm doing 1/48 Caproni > Triplane bomber? Joey, I started the thread on the Italian resin Caproni triplane a few months ago based on a conversation I had had with an individual who imported resin kits from Italy. He has been a hard person to get a hold of (his day job is lawyering), and the only info I have gotten since that time is that the kit has been delayed. I'll let the list know when I learn more. Carlos ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 750 *********************