WWI Digest 742 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Brisbane Jasta reinforcement by Shane Weier 2) Re:Sopwith Baby tail - addendum by Geoff Smith 3) Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. by B-A-L 4) Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. by B-A-L 5) Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 6) Re: New thread/Masking by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 7) Re: Hans Waldhausen. by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 8) Re: Blue Max Camel by Alberto Rada 9) Re: Possiblity for exchanges/ was need help from Brits by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 10) Re: A7V Tank by mbittner@juno.com 11) Re: 1/285th lozenge by mbittner@juno.com 12) A7V by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 13) Re: A7V Tank by Joey Valenciano 14) Revell 1/28 D7 Wing by BStett3770@aol.com 15) Re: Steve Hustad's diorama in FSM by KarrArt 16) Re: A7V by "Rob" 17) Re: Fee observer position by "Rob" 18) Re: New subscriber with alot of questions by "Rob" 19) Gotha Drawings by "Bill Ciciora" 20) Re: 1/285th lozenge by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 21) A7V by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 22) Re: A7V by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 23) RE: 1/285th lozenge by Shane Weier 24) Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 25) Re: Albatros D.V silver fuselage by Mick Fauchon 26) Re: Fee observer position by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 27) Re: Gotha Drawings by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 28) ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 29) Re: Gotha Drawings by Joey Valenciano 30) Re: Blue Max Camel/K&B Breguet by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 31) Re: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? by "William B. Bacon, Jr." 32) Re: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? by Bob Pearson 33) List Library? by KarrArt@aol.com 34) Wood and Engine Parts (was Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders) by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:52:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Brisbane Jasta reinforcement Message-ID: <199711032302.JAA16753@mimmon.mim.com.au> Hello all, A quick perusal of the list of list members reveals that Brisbane, Australia now has a third list member. His name is Graham Steel. This swine built his first WW1 model a few months ago, and did it well enough to win at our recent show. I hate him ;-) Don't believe ny scurrilous rumours perpetrated by the man - unless they flatter ME :-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:57:39 -0500 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re:Sopwith Baby tail - addendum Message-ID: <199711031757_MC2-2697-6F61@compuserve.com> Knut Erik, Further to my remarks on the tail surfaces, the kit part is for the Schneider which had a smaller tailplane than the Baby. Regards, Geoff. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:01:02 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. Message-ID: <345EF25E.5128@eis.net.au> Aidrian, Nice to hear from you and thanks for your very kind offer ! SOLD !! I'll try it - I envy you a decent lathe - I was just reflecting last night ( as I went slowly blind ) on the one we left at our property when the farm was sold - Snail address is Level 7 Inns of Court, 107 North Quay, Brisbane Queensland, Australia 4000 As to o/d dimension of the rod - I'm doing several Mercedes 160 - 260 HP engines If you could jigger up rod to an o/d which conforms tro the Windsock plans for this type of motor per plans for the Pfalz, Gotha GV Albatros D I - Va &tc... you won't go far wrong - Many thanks again !! I've been scratching for years- Like you ships ( no Trains ) My period- is the Napoleonic War and earlier - Have a couple on permanent loan to the Science Museum Victoria - The " Victory " 90 guns - the one before Nelsons and one of those lovely ketch rigged sloops of the same period - all tall spars and a mass of rigging - As to WW1 prefer the redoubtable sausage eaters and their near allies - Anything on floats ( I'm doing a Gotha W-7 ) and Bombers ( currently fighting a pair of Gotha GV IV and Va ) with the smaller fighters getting a look in I commend the wooden fuselage to you - I've nearly finished a Alb W-4 and the result is bloody stunning even if I do say so myself - I used a fine grained cherry ( No English Box available at a sensible price ) thickness sanded down to 25 thou ( home made thicknesser from model ship building used for this ) , bleached out some of the red and finished in clear ( visible internal frames were laminated up from the same material or the frame was veneered over card ) Have steam-bent the Gotha GVs and W-7 ) noses the same way You mentioned a source of lewis parabellum and spandau guns/ jackets - a Mr. Allen - Who's your supplier and what do they slug you over there - The duty this side of the water is bloody ruinous BTW if you can manage brazing and soldering without going totally mad and you like the transluscence of Clear Doped Linen ( CDL ) Try putting together say a Sop Baby or Pup frame ( the Windsock plans are pretty good for this ) and the cover it in CLEAR sheet - If you are ambitious you can even wack in the internal wires when the frame is together - use 5 - 10 thou sheet sand the whole sheet down to a bit of an semi-opaque look and then spray with a suitable cream - misting the spray until the desired effect is achieved - oil staining can be represented very convincingly as you can " oil " the " fabric " inside and out ! Speaking of decent timber - What's your poison ? I used to have a few off-cuts of Kauri but that's all gone now so I fidget about with some of the now more commonly available Island timbers - The local timber market here has changed dramatically in the last 20 years and the old traditional cabinet-making woods are now getting horribly expensive or are just plain unprocurable PS tried bamboo for struts ? Split a bit of cane groove it on both internal sides, re-glue reversing the grains and viola' you have a nice semi flexible strut ( good to ensure the longevity of larger bomber types ) with an insertion point for a plastic or metal point when you have finished shaping it - Stain to the desired colour and the grain LOOKS about right ! Regards DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:03:18 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. Message-ID: <345EF2E6.1F6E@eis.net.au> BAMBOO !! Well said Robert Three cheers for bamboo - Best strut, and stringer material ever invented ! Not a half bad grain in 1/48 either ! DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:03:34 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. Message-ID: <199711040003.TAA08112@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 01:52 PM 11/3/97 -0500, KarrArt@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-11-03 03:54:44 EST, Aidrian.BS@ConnectorSystems.co.nz >writes: > ><< And there will be a prize for the first model made entirely from celery. > > Aidrian >> >Yeah- second prize after my Sop Snipe made from wet leaves takes first.Models >made from bacon will not be allowed (you've got to keep an eye on those >sneaky meat-modelers) >Robert What about something sculpted in Vegemite? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:03:37 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: New thread/Masking Message-ID: <199711040003.TAA08118@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 08:48 AM 11/3/97 -0500, Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: >Mike, > I have been using 3-M brand Fine Line masking tape. This can be >purchased at a good auto body supply shop. Thanks to all who have given me some ideas on masking. I picked up the Scotch Removable Magic Tape (the stuff in the blue tartan box) today. After reading all the posts, I was amazed that no one was actually using plain old masking tape....then again, seeing how poorly it works, I shouldn't have been that surprised. I started thinking about the pin striping they do on custom auto paint jobs (on the 1:1 scale) and then Paul's post came in. Great, now when I go there, I at least know what to call the stuff and act like I know what I'm talking about. When I went to find the Magic Tape, I tried all sorts of ways of describing it to the guy. Finally, I relented and said "Uh, I think it comes in a blue box." Instantly the guy knew what I meant! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:03:40 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Hans Waldhausen. Message-ID: <199711040003.TAA08130@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 02:13 AM 11/2/97 -0500, Mick Fauchon wrote: > > >> Thanks, Mick. When I did the plane, I know it was in color on the back of >> something! > > Thanks, Mike. Just what I need: a clue! Now I'll probably spend >the next three weeks looking for it! 80) OK, Mick, clue # 2: I remembered(then again, my memory does suck) that it was in color on the back of an OTF volume on the Baden fliers. If you have the resource, good hunting. If not and you'd like a copy, let me know. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:47:17 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Max Camel Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971103164717.006d36e0@pop.true.net> Hi Would any of the list members with friends in high places, know anything in this posibility ? Does anyone know about the High Teck 1/48 Breguet 14 ? Saludos Alberto At 01:16 AM 03-11-97 -0500, you wrote: >Just got the Blue Max Camel. It almost has parts for two planes. ONE WOULD >THINK THAT AN ENTERPRISING RESIN PARTS FIRM WOULD MAKE PARTS TO COMPLETE A >SECOND CAMEL!!! > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:16:27 -0600 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: Possiblity for exchanges/ was need help from Brits Message-ID: <01bce8b6$e4de5840$2e868ece@default> For the reasons sited in the previous post, I would be very hesitant to deal via a web page posting. Just MHO. Cheers, Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nash To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 5:42 AM Subject: Re: Possiblity for exchanges/ was need help from Brits >Paul Howard wrote: >> >> Sandy, >> >> This exchange/barter system would be very useful to some of us modelers. > >Isn't this the whole idea about the Shop N'Swap page? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:09:53 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: A7V Tank Message-ID: <19971103.182659.8974.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:52:22 -0500 "Paul Schwartzkopf" writes: > Also, any references on details, finishes, etc. would be > appreciated. Now if I could just find a replacement for the > vacuformed treads.... I have the Bellona print, as well as the Schiffer book, and some plans that some wise member on the list gave me. If you want copies of the Bellona, as well as the other plans, let me know. The Schiffer book is too extreme to copy all of it, but name some details you want and I'll look for those. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:11:26 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/285th lozenge Message-ID: <19971103.182659.8974.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:23:07 -0500 "Sandy Adam" writes: > I don't think I could work with this complication - imagine if > the only cocking levers you could get for your Spandaus were > 1/285 and you had to put them on a 1/300 Fokker D.VII! You > wouldn't be able to sleep at night! Or worse, what if the 1/300 > throttle quadrants were slightly undersized? - they'd be lost in > the vast emptiness of a 1/285 cockpit! > Much easier in Matt's Balloon Scale of 1/72. Hey, watch it bub. Balloon/Braille is for those with no eyes. ;-) > Sandy > TIC (tongue in cheek) It must be in there very far. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:06:09, -0500 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: A7V Message-ID: <199711040106.UAA14292@mime4.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- I've been working on a scratchbuilt 1/72 A7V, with interior, for ages. I started out with the Tauro 1/35 and have been using it as a guide to scale down the scratchbuilt pieces. I'm at a standstill of sorts trying to duplicate even rows of rivets using sliced off bits of stretched sprue (having tried and given up on white glue and super glue - both with inconsistent results). The grills on the forward and aft sections of the hull are for ventilation and light. I think these are an excellent choice for photoetch using a scanned and scaled 1/35 part as an example. I built my track using strip styrene scribed to represent individual plates and detailed with sections of rod. Ken -- npwe28a@prodigy.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:50:01 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: A7V Tank Message-ID: <199711040150.JAA05564@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> At 02:19 PM 11/3/97 -0500, you wrote: > Once upon a time, about the time this kit was produced, there was a >Bellona print (i.e. drawing) of this beast published in 1/76. I used to >have it, but lost track of it years ago. I'd be interested to know if >there is another source for drawings of this machine as well. My source of info is from "Tankette", published by MAFVA (Miniature Armed Forces Vehicle Association). I used to subscribe years ago. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:48:19 -0500 (EST) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Revell 1/28 D7 Wing Message-ID: <971103201225_1446780372@emout02.mail.aol.com> Hi Gang One of my customers E-mailed me that he heard a UK manufacture displayed a resin replacement wing for the 1/28 Revell D-7 kit at the UK nats. Any of our UK contingent know anything about this ? Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:11:57 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Steve Hustad's diorama in FSM Message-ID: <167d78b6.345e8440@aol.com> Just got my FSM. Steve Hustad's diorama is everything I've read about on the list during the last few days.Subtle coloring applied with an artist's eye- that's what make this piece look real. I'm so tired of the standard garish figure work nowadays.Steve's work not only looks like good modeling- it looks REAL. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:43:49 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: A7V Message-ID: <199711040252.VAA02557@newman.concentric.net> Kenneth Hagerup wrote: > >I'm at a standstill of sorts trying > to duplicate even rows of rivets using sliced off bits of stretched > sprue (having tried and given up on white glue and super glue - both > with inconsistent results). Try mounting a watch gear on an axle and rolling it over thin plastic. The dents this makes appear as rivets on the other side. If the thin sheet is too thin to work with, laminate it to a thicker backing sheet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:54:05 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: Fee observer position Message-ID: <199711040302.WAA28368@cliff.concentric.net> > Still, those constraints didn't seem to deter the Germans from using > parachutes - who managed to cram parachute-encumbered bodies into > cockpits and still make reasonable progress against the wind. > > Parachute construction can hardly have been the 1918 equivelent > of rocket science - if the Germans could make parachutes small > enough and light enough to fit into cockpits and not impose > an untoward weight penalty on the aircraft, certainly the RAF > could have done so as well. Weren't most German parachutes carried outside the cockpit, on the top or bottom of the fuselage? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:04:14 +0000 From: "Rob" To: wwi Subject: Re: New subscriber with alot of questions Message-ID: <199711040312.WAA09635@newman.concentric.net> > Aidrian, down in CHCH, wrote: > > > > >The engine details aren't quite such an issue - I can work from what I > >have and from photos. However I find it easier to model any thing like > >this from a good G.A since it gives you a feel for the way the real > >thing goes together. Does any body else feel this way - that with > >exposed engines the engine needs to be a scale model in its own right as > >far as possible? Try building a BR2 from photos alone - most published > >data gives you a weight and performance figures, togehter with a photo > >if you are lucky, but never a useful dimension from which to prepare a > >drawing. You might want to look at Chandelle, Volume 2, Number 1 (March 1997) for hints on drawing plans and building scale models of WW1 engines using photos as source material. If you are interested, e-mail me privately and I will send you the article. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:46:48 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: "WWI Model List" Subject: Gotha Drawings Message-ID: Riordan, > Copies of drawings are available from the list library. Do you have any color approximations for G.V lozenge? I don't need Methuen; FS595 is close enough. Like you, I don't have an extra $30 to spend on lozenge decal. I'm going to try the masking grid method when I get around to my Aurora. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Nov 1997 22:56:16 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/285th lozenge Message-ID: <87861581096041@bdsbbs.com> Sandy wrote: > I don't think I could work with this complication - imagine if ... Actually, I have a friend in Milwaukee who is very frightening. He scratchbuilds a variety of 1/285 planes to fill in types I haven't put into production yet. On a number of them, he's built in moving parts. The scariest one has a moving rudder that automatically swings in the correct direction when the plane is rolled into a bank. (The game, Hostile Aircraft works with full 3-D stands; the planes move up and down their stand with an alligator clip and there's a brass wire arrangement so the planes have full rotation on each axis.) Brian RW ------------------------------ Date: 3 Nov 1997 23:02:52 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: A7V Message-ID: <87861617495042@bdsbbs.com> Ken wrote: >I'm at a standstill of sorts trying to duplicate even rows of rivets using sliced off bits of stretched sprue (having tried and given up on white glue and super glue - both with inconsistent results). There's a simple way to do decent rivets. Mark out the position of the rivets on the reverse side of the plastic. Then press with an awl at each spot, it will raise a dimple on the opposite side. Practice a bit first on a scrap of the same thickness plastic to get a feel of the amount of pressure needed to raise the rivet head without puncturing the plastic. Even if youdo puncture,it can be touched up with putty. (Presuming you're working in plastic of course.) Brian RW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:07:00 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: A7V Message-ID: <345FC6B4.5D7A@ConnectorSystems.co.nz> Rob wrote: > > Kenneth Hagerup wrote: > > > >I'm at a standstill of sorts trying > > to duplicate even rows of rivets using sliced off bits of stretched > > sprue (having tried and given up on white glue and super glue - both > > with inconsistent results). > > Try mounting a watch gear on an axle and rolling it over thin > plastic. The dents this makes appear as rivets on the other > side. If the thin sheet is too thin to work with, laminate it to a > thicker backing sheet. There is always the dress makers pounce wheel as well. For the really dedicated and price unconscious try Northwest Shortline (sp?) in the US - the have a really neat rivet press with an indes table as well. The model railway hobby suppliers have a lot of really neat tools for those who work in other disciplines. Cheers Aidrian Chch NZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:10:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: 1/285th lozenge Message-ID: <199711040420.OAA25655@mimmon.mim.com.au> Brian, >The scariest one has a moving rudder that automatically swings in the >correct direction when the plane is rolled into a bank. Scary indeed. And does he have it sophisticated enough to have the rotary engined aircrafts rudder turn to the same side *regardless* of which way the plane turns? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:16:17 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders. Message-ID: <345FC8E1.44D3@ConnectorSystems.co.nz> Mary-Ann/Michael wrote: > What about something sculpted in Vegemite? > Mike Muth Mike Too much vegemite has the same effect as Castor Oil, so you might be able to use it well thinned to simulate oil stained fabric on a rotary engined machine. A few rivet counters may comment on the lack of olefactory resemblance however. Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:47:13 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros D.V silver fuselage Message-ID: > Aren't you donning the top part of your > color police uniform to make a blanket statement like that? Now we know what a colour-cop wears under his/her kilt: a blanket! 80) BTW, who are our colour-constables? Not, perchance, PC 10 and PC 11, Constables P. Green and Olive Brown? smirk.......giggle 80) Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:06:14 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Fee observer position Message-ID: <199711040506.AA29712@ednet1.orednet.org> Rob writes: >Weren't most German parachutes carried outside the cockpit, on the >top or bottom of the fuselage? I've seen that arrangement but the Heinicke parachute introduced in, I believe, the summer of '18 was definitely worn by the aviator - it came in both backpack and seatpack varieties - or, perhaps, a single variety which was adaptable for either backpack or seatpack use. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:22:29 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Drawings Message-ID: <345EB115.5B04@ricochet.net> Bill Ciciora wrote: > > Riordan, > > > Copies of drawings are available from the list library. > > Do you have any color approximations for G.V lozenge? I don't need Methuen; > FS595 is close enough. Like you, I don't have an extra $30 to spend on > lozenge decal. I'm going to try the masking grid method when I get around > to my Aurora. > > Bill C. Bill, Colors are about the only thing about Gothas I can't offer much help with. I'm afraid one thing all of us on the list wish for is a Methuen-FS595 conversion system or book. I have all the Methuen data, which is, of course virtually worthless to us in the US and anyone without a Methuen booklet. What I can offer is a color copy of the plate of the night lozenge fabric covered G.V from the Windsock book I payed far too much for, or a reference photo showing a Gotha with VERY large hand applied hex lozenges (or both), which might be easier to achieve on the Aurora kit. HTH & Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:36:31 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? Message-ID: <345EB45F.275D@ricochet.net> Carl J. Bobrow wrote: > to make it more palatable for those of you who > might not want to part with your copy I am willing to add into the mix the > Tab Books soft back second printing version too. That is a two for one > deal, so if you have a copy and would like to own the Aces book and still > have a copy of the Aircraft book here is your chance. > cjb (*<* Do any list members object to the library offering the collection's very slightly water damaged hardbound Harleyford Fighters book (sans dust jacket) in trade for Carl's softcover reprint PLUS the Harleyford Air Aces book? This seems like a good opportunity to painlessly add to the list archive's holdings one more rare & out of print volume. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:51:05 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Drawings Message-ID: <199711040551.NAA06526@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> Hi Bill, >Do you have any color approximations for G.V lozenge? I have night lozenge drawn (in colour) using Corel Draw. I can email you a sample. I can turn the file into a JPG, more general format (can be opened in a web browser for viewing) file size much smaller but less clear. >I don't need Methuen; >FS595 is close enough. Like you, I don't have an extra $30 to spend on >lozenge decal. >I'm going to try the masking grid method when I get around >to my Aurora. You could try my method of painting lozenges which I posted awhile back. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:42:31 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Max Camel/K&B Breguet Message-ID: <345EB5C7.24B3@ricochet.net> Alberto Rada wrote: > Does anyone know about the 1/48 Breguet 14 ? I do, but it's decidedly low-tech. I've been studying references, both printed & video. If anyone wants progress reports or suggested references, just let me know. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 00:21:45 -0600 From: "William B. Bacon, Jr." To: wwi Subject: Re: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? Message-ID: <345EBEF9.57A0@netjava.net> Riordan, Go for it. Good thinking. You are the right man for the job. Cheers, Bill B. mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > > Carl J. Bobrow wrote: > > > to make it more palatable for those of you who > > might not want to part with your copy I am willing to add into the mix the > > Tab Books soft back second printing version too. That is a two for one > > deal, so if you have a copy and would like to own the Aces book and still > > have a copy of the Aircraft book here is your chance. > > cjb (*<* > > Do any list members object to the library offering the collection's very > slightly water damaged hardbound Harleyford Fighters book (sans dust > jacket) in trade for Carl's softcover reprint PLUS the Harleyford Air > Aces book? This seems like a good opportunity to painlessly add to the > list archive's holdings one more rare & out of print volume. > > Cheers, > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:23:51 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? Message-ID: <06235129112742@KAIEN.COM> Riordan, Out of curiousity, just what is the "List Library"? Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: ATTENTION, LIST! Re: A trade, I hope? > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:48:59 -0500 > > Carl J. Bobrow wrote: > > > to make it more palatable for those of you who > > might not want to part with your copy I am willing to add into the mix the > > Tab Books soft back second printing version too. That is a two for one > > deal, so if you have a copy and would like to own the Aces book and still > > have a copy of the Aircraft book here is your chance. > > cjb (*<* > > Do any list members object to the library offering the collection's very > slightly water damaged hardbound Harleyford Fighters book (sans dust > jacket) in trade for Carl's softcover reprint PLUS the Harleyford Air > Aces book? This seems like a good opportunity to painlessly add to the > list archive's holdings one more rare & out of print volume. > > Cheers, > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: List Library? Message-ID: <971104013510_715993637@mrin40.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-04 01:32:28 EST, you write: << Riordan, Out of curiousity, just what is the "List Library"? Regards, Bob Pearson >> Yes- just what is this library? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 20:15:24 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Wood and Engine Parts (was Re: The Trans-Tasman league of scratchbuilders) Message-ID: <345FF2DC.6034@ConnectorSystems.co.nz> B-A-L wrote: > > > As to o/d dimension of the rod - I'm doing several Mercedes 160 - 260 > HP engines If you could jigger up rod to an o/d which conforms tro the > Windsock plans for this type of motor per plans for the Pfalz, Gotha > GV Albatros D I - Va &tc... you won't go far wrong - Many thanks again > !! > Since I don't have this data handy could some one fire me a copy - I might do a decent sized batch if there is enough interest. I'm giving some thought to having some engines cast in brass or white bronze for my own work - this is a great technique for getting really detailed casting, and it copes with undercuts as well, since the mould is broken away from the casting and doesn't need to be reused. Comments would be much appreciated on this topic - I am definitely of the opinion that many parts supplied as bog or whitemetal/pewter castings or as etched brass fabrications would be far better if they were done as lost wax castings - take a look at some of the bits you can get for railway models next time you are in a shop that stocks them. > The " Victory " 90 guns - the > one before Nelsons and one of those lovely ketch rigged sloops of the > same period - all tall spars and a mass of rigging - All those sticks and strings teach you patience, nulti engined biplanes hold no terrors for a man who has rigged a man o' war!! Getting back to WW1 a special want for me a is a "K" class submarine; with the original low bow they looked like submersible destroyers - which effectively they were.To be really authentic this will need a miniature steam plant, but I'm not aware of any viable underwater boiler plant so it is going to have to be electric I'm afraid. There are a few other bods with the same idea, but we do NOT propose to refight the Battle of May Island > You mentioned a source of lewis parabellum and spandau guns/ jackets - > a Mr. Allen - Who's your supplier and what do they slug you over there > - The duty this side of the water is bloody ruinous errm,... Adams - the Aeroclub bits are a bit pricey here but there is a store in Auckland that has a range off the shelf. They aren't perfect, but they suffice. I don't like sausages, so it's Lewis and Vickers for me. A Lohner flying boat might convert me though, and I'm mighty tempted by the thought of a W-4 -all that varnished wood. > > Speaking of decent timber - What's your poison ? Kahikitea (NZ white pine) makes a good lime substitute and will cut well into small scantlings. Dunno about Kauri as a modelling wood -I have never tried it. Good for building furniture and real boats from though I got a job lot of cherry and basswood (American Lime) from a relocation or closing down sale; cherry is good, basswood rather less so - it has too many balsa like qaulities for top class work, but it is good in the right place or where the colour of cherry would be objectionable - it can be horribly bland on its own though. One of the local orchard operating companies is threatening to dig up all its trees and plant a new housing estate, so I am casting covetous eyes on what will be a useful source and lifetime supply of apple and pear - commercial pear wood is ridiculously espensive. The best comes from Switzerland, and I had to mortgage the cat for the last lot I bought. Box is almost unobtainable in the English variety, but there is a source of Turkish Box in Canada, and Brazilian Box (Castello) is aparrently very close and an awful lot cheaper - watch out for crazed savers of th rain forest though. Thanks for the wrinkle on bamboo struts - beats drilling holes in your finger tips while trying to centre a drill in the end of a finished strut. Cheers Aidrian IDFVMLBMS - but lapses into synthetics occasionally. Mary had a little plane and through the skies did frisk, Now wasn't that a silly thing her little * . ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 742 *********************