WWI Digest 722 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) charms of Albatros D.II? -Reply by Peter Mitchell 2) Re: Favorite kits by John & Allison Cyganowski 3) Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) by Shane Weier 4) Re: charms of Albatros D.II? by John & Allison Cyganowski 5) RE: MPM Brandenburg W.29 by Joey Valenciano 6) Nieuport Fighters in action by Charles Hart 7) Re: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) by B-A-L 8) Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) -Reply by Peter Mitchell 9) Re: THINGS ON FLOATS by B-A-L 10) Re: Nieuport Fighters in action by John & Allison Cyganowski 11) RE: THINGS ON FLOATS by Shane Weier 12) Re: in action books by Charles Hart 13) Re: single seat strutter by Bob Pearson 14) Re: THINGS ON FLOATS by "William B. Bacon, Jr." 15) Re: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) -Reply by mail@silkroadjewels.com 16) Re: kit lists by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 17) Re: Nieuport Fighters in action by mail@silkroadjewels.com 18) French bomb colors/Breguet prop by mail@silkroadjewels.com 19) Re: THINGS ON FLOATS by B-A-L 20) Re: Let's Talk Lozenge! by Sandy Adam 21) RE: going to London by "Denest, Michael J" 22) Hannants website by David Solosy 23) New book by David Solosy 24) Re: Hannants website by Joey Valenciano 25) Re: THINGS ON FLOATS by Jesse Thorn 26) RE: going to London by Franco Poloni 27) Re: charms of Albatros D.II? by KarrArt@aol.com 28) SSW D. III by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Enjoying the hobby - reprise by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:25:37 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: charms of Albatros D.II? -Reply Message-ID: >>> Hirohisa Ozaki 22/October/1997 10:41am >>> >I don't like Albatros D.II well. My favorite Albatros fighter is only D.V/Va. >Does anyone talk about charms of your Albatros D.II? Hiro, Some time ago I started to convert the Revel Albatros DIII to a DII. I've made the wings but that's all. Although I haven't had a good look, I'm of the opinion that there aren't many decent colour schemes for a DII. So I think my DII will end up a W-4 (Once again I think I've been influenced by that MPM W-29 I bought). MvR was apparently flying a DII when he downed Hawker.(?) >1. one is covered observer sheat and armed a Vickers-gun on front >nose. >And what was another one used for? As a bomber? Cheers Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:33:35 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: Favorite kits Message-ID: <344D57EF.65B4@worldnet.att.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:40:13 -0400 TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: > > > Not to brag, but I agree with Charles. Many of us have far too > > many to list. I've been buying WWI kits (and others) for over > > 30 years. Maybe a list of favorite kits would be more in order. > > Just a thought. . . > > Great idea! > > I'm sure it comes as no surprise to some, but my favorite all > around kit is the Revell Nieuport 17. I must second the Nieuport 17 as a favorite. A friend was restoring an old Aurora Pfaltz, and my intrest in WWI was re-kindled. I picked up the Testors Nieuport for $2(US) and had a ball! I followed the Finescale article pretty closely, scratchbuilt a cockpit, added an Atlee engine and Lewis. I cheated just a little and changed out the Indian for the one in the MSAP SPAD sheet. It was less accurate I think, but the blue feathers on the silver dope looked "way bitch'n" (okay, sue me!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:48:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) Message-ID: <199710220156.LAA08785@mimmon.mim.com.au> Riordan posts, with eminent good sense: >7. If a modeling project starts to make you grouchy or otherwise >difficult to live with, take a break and work on something else or give >it a rest entirely. After all, it's only a bloody hobby. My lapel badge say "It's just a hobby, stupid" The imprecation is not meant for the viewer, but for me, since I once suffered AMS to the stage of starting many and finishing NO models. My personal philosophy could hardly be more different from Riordans, since I rarely ever build anything without making major changes. I get *my* fun from being extensively picky about detail BUT I absolutely agree with his point 7 above, and add my own point 8 8. Whatever turns you on. Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:52:36 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: charms of Albatros D.II? Message-ID: <344D5C64.73C@worldnet.att.net> Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > Hello All, > > I don't like Albatros D.II well. My favorite Albatros fighter is only D.V/Va. > Does anyone talk about charms of your Albatros D.II? > > Cheers, Hiro. Those bold squared off wings, that kooky reservoir perched on top of the engine, those odd fuselage mounted radiators! Closing my eyes, I can imagine the shiver Hawker must have felt being stalked that November afternoon. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:36:58 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: RE: MPM Brandenburg W.29 Message-ID: <199710220236.KAA32113@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> Hi Shane and Hiro, > >I use hair dryer, heat and warp correctly by hands. It was very >hot;-) I've converted a kit box (DML Fok.DVII) into a little "warp fixing" oven. What I did wast to cut 3 holes on the side of the box, this of course would mean cutting 6 holes in all because the box and the boxtop overlap here. Then, on the opposite end, I cut a hole large enough for the hairdryer nozzle to fit in snuggly. So what I do is plop the part (wing?) in, set the dryer to low, and fit it into it's hole in the box. I can regulate the amount of heat in the box by slightly opening the "3 hole" end of the box, so having 6 holes in which the hot air can escape. I do my "baking" near a clock with a second hand. It takes from 30 sec. to 1.5 min. to do the trick. Since I can't tell how long it will take to make the heat work on the wing (differing melting points of different plastics, plastic thickness, etc.), I usually start by leaving the part in for 15 sec., if the warp can't be straightened, I go fro 30 sec., and so on. I like this process because the heat is not intense enough to melt little surface detail, but heat is concentrated enough to get to the inner part (core) of the plastic where it's needed the most. If you use a hairdryer directly onto a part, you're only heating the surface of the plastic most, and letting the heat escape quickly. I recommend this technique. Haven't lost a part yet. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:54:09 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Nieuport Fighters in action Message-ID: Greetings All, Just picked up the new Squadron in action book. The cover has a real boner in living color. The painting features a Ni-28 of the AEF 27th Pursuit Squadron with very funny looking cockades on the wing. The positions of red and blue on the cockades are reversed from what an American cockade should appear. The painting shows BLUE outer, RED middle rings and inner White circle. As we all know the sequence should be Red, Blue then White. Coverage of the Ni-28 is otherwise kind of skimpy, with one photo claiming to be a Ni-28 in French service. I think that the photo is post-War of a Ni-28 used as a movie prop. The machine suffers from some kind of rot which has caused the cowling metal to blister, not something one would see on a serviceable machine, I believe. I don't know gang. I'll have to look more carefully at this before saying more. This book is a nice effort at giving an overview of Nieuport fighters and it is available at most local stores fora reasonable price. MY US$ 0.02 worth. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:55:34 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) Message-ID: <344DF7C6.7B2D@eis.net.au> POSTSCRIPT Having started all this I'm actually with Shane and Riordan - When it stops giving you pleasure it's time to move on ! David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:52:45 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) -Reply Message-ID: Riordan, I very much agree with your sentiments....... What I've attempted with the Smer Albatros is a bit over the top, however it is the first moldel I've tried for over 5 years. I guess I'm using it as a safe test bed for a variety of skills (which I may or may not have lost), before I launch into the "nice" kits from Eduard and DML. The next project will probably be the Smer Fokker DVII. It's a cheap experiment. :-) > Use kit parts and decals as much as I can stand (so I just cleaned up >the kit engine, separating the valve train/cylinder heads a bit & adding >appropriate rod, whittled down intake manifold & slightly altered >exhaust). This is not only economical, but it can be a very gratifying >challenge. >Go all-out on the finish, but try not to spend more than twice the >value of the kit on decals. This is easy to do with the old Smer kits! I >think one of the reasons my D.V was so well received was the >successful simulated wood fuselage. Most of these guys do WWII & >later camo or metallic finishes, so it was unusual. I can only admire any attempt to fix the engine on this one, I tried but decided that it wasn't worth it. I will be making my DV into a Jasta 18 machine, so red and blue with 5-colour loz on the top and light blue under the wings. The lozenge is coming from that provided in the Eduard DV. Along with Foto-cut spandau jackets I estimate that these and the cost of the engine is the only extra out lay apart fro a lot of time..... approx the cost of the kit again. All good practise I hope. :-) BTW Propagteam do make 5-colour lozenge, it's very bright like their 4-colour and I hope it can be retrieved by a light grey wash in the varnish. >If a modeling project starts to make you grouchy or otherwise >difficult to live with, take a break and work on something else or give >it a rest entirely. After all, it's only a bloody hobby. I agree.... at the moment I'm looking forward to the finished product and trying not to think of the work involved. You're right about the satisfaction derived from correcting these things... :-) I'm curious about this Middle East Pasha aircraft? You don't see many schemes for german machines serving in the Middle East. Cheers Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:05:38 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: THINGS ON FLOATS Message-ID: <344DFA22.3BE7@eis.net.au> Calling all naval type afficionados In the latest issue of Windsock - Vol 13 No 5 at pp 20-21 - there's a Gotha WD 7 - a rather attractive twin tailed " thing on floats " that seems to cry out for a scratch build - Like many things on floats there doesn't seem to be wealth of info available beyond a few fuzzy distance shots - Can any kind soul out there point me in the direction of any information on this type : Specifically plans ( 1/72 or 1/48 ) or detail shots of the cockpit area ; front gunner/ observer position and engine / engine nacelles ?? Regards David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:10:51 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: Nieuport Fighters in action Message-ID: <344D6EBB.3CBD@worldnet.att.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > Greetings All, > > Just picked up the new Squadron in action book. On the subject of the Fighters in Action series from Squadron, is the Albatros Fighters in Action worth picking up? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:22:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: THINGS ON FLOATS Message-ID: <199710220332.NAA12091@mimmon.mim.com.au> Folks: >In the latest issue of Windsock - Vol 13 No 5 at pp 20-21 - there's a >Gotha WD 7 - a rather attractive twin tailed " thing on floats " that >seems to cry out for a scratch build - Like many things on floats >there doesn't seem to be wealth of info available beyond a few fuzzy >distance shots - Can any kind soul out there point me in the direction >of any information on this type : Specifically plans ( 1/72 or 1/48 ) >or detail shots of the cockpit area ; front gunner/ observer position >and engine / engine nacelles ?? That bang you hear from Brisbane Australia is the sound of David R.L.Laws, Barrister, but otherwise all round nice chap, breaking the land speed record *on*foot* whilst leaping between numerous difficult projects at superhuman speed ! ;-) David, are you ready for another red cross package? And should the Ffh G.III/G.IIIa volume be in it? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:13:58 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: in action books Message-ID: >Charles Hart wrote: >> >> Greetings All, >> >> Just picked up the new Squadron in action book. > >On the subject of the Fighters in Action series from Squadron, is the >Albatros Fighters in Action worth picking up? You have to find it first. It was first published in about 1981, which is when I bought mine. If you can get a copy for less than US$10.00 you're doing pretty well. The Windsock Datafile Special is a much better book. It has better photo quality and nice scale drawtings, but it does have a much higher price tag, on the order of US$ 25.00. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:04:37 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: single seat strutter Message-ID: <05043751907667@KAIEN.COM> Hiro, The Vickers armed one was used as a bomber. The rear cockpit area contained an internal bomb bay for 4-65lb bombs or 2-112lb bombs. Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: Hirohisa Ozaki > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: single seat strutter > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:56:35 -0400 > > I read DATAFILE and Sopwith fighters IN ACTION last night. > > There are two kinds of single seat LCT photos. > 1. one is covered observer sheat and armed a Vickers-gun on front nose. > 2. another one is covered front seat and armed Lewis-gun which mounted > center of wing by Foster mount. > > Which is "commic", used in home defense?(probably 2?) > And what was another one used for? > > Hiro. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:04:34 -0500 From: "William B. Bacon, Jr." To: wwi Subject: Re: THINGS ON FLOATS Message-ID: <344D8962.66FF@netjava.net> David, I will send WD-7 drawing and write up alomg with the promised profiles. Cheers, Bill B. B-A-L wrote: > > Calling all naval type afficionados > > In the latest issue of Windsock - Vol 13 No 5 at pp 20-21 - there's a > Gotha WD 7 - a rather attractive twin tailed " thing on floats " that > seems to cry out for a scratch build - Like many things on floats > there doesn't seem to be wealth of info available beyond a few fuzzy > distance shots - Can any kind soul out there point me in the direction > of any information on this type : Specifically plans ( 1/72 or 1/48 ) > or detail shots of the cockpit area ; front gunner/ observer position > and engine / engine nacelles ?? > > Regards > > David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:56:57 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Enjoying the hobby (was Re: the SMER Albatros) -Reply Message-ID: <344D95A9.787@silkroadjewels.com> Peter Mitchell wrote: I guess I'm using it as a safe test bed for a variety of > skills (which I may or may not have lost), before I launch into the "nice" > kits from Eduard and DML. The next project will probably be the Smer > Fokker DVII. > It's a cheap experiment. :-) This is exactly how I approached it, and it turned out OK, despite one or two major screw ups. > I can only admire any attempt to fix the engine on this one, I tried but > decided that it wasn't worth it. You're probably right, but my two Aeroclub Mercedes are reserved for the Gotha and I didn't have anything extra. > BTW Propagteam do make 5-colour lozenge, it's very bright like their > 4-colour and I hope it can be retrieved by a light grey wash in the > varnish. I've been wondering about toning these down with a wash...let me know how it turns out. You're right about the satisfaction > derived from correcting these things... :-) Speaking of corrections, you may have noticed that the kit struts make the wings too far apart. If you plan on using the kit struts, splay the cabanes out about 2-4mm at their attachment to the upper wing; you will have to file the strut's fuselage locater tabs until they will reach the new angle (and drill new holes in the wing undersurface for 'em of course). The V struts will have to be shortened a few mm as well. Continual dry fitting is of course essential to make all this work. The cabane and undercarriage attatchment points on the fuselage are slightly off, but I decided to start messing with them would be counterproductive. > > I'm curious about this Middle East Pasha aircraft? You don't see many > schemes for german machines serving in the Middle East. We've had a thread or two on Pasha birds, and the conservative line is, almost all were probably standard mauve & green or 5-color/natural varnish because there's not much evidence to the contrary. I thought it might be more fun to explore one of the possible exceptions, such as feldgrau/ green on uppersurfaces. Looks pretty cool. There is reference to D.IIIs being gray overall, but this seemed rather a bore. Most of the info on these 'planes comes from three out of print issues of C&C International. Cheers Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 02:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: kit lists Message-ID: <971022013246_-1460845800@mrin46.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-21 20:56:34 EDT, you write: > I would agree with Ira, although I have no idea who this "Mr. > Nieuport" is. Must be an idiot. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > He is also known (to me, at least) as "Mr 1/72". He's no idiot: he merely thinks small. :^) Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:14:12 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nieuport Fighters in action Message-ID: <344D99B4.2A56@silkroadjewels.com> John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > > Charles Hart wrote: > > > > Greetings All, > > > > Just picked up the new Squadron in action book. > > On the subject of the Fighters in Action series from Squadron, is the > Albatros Fighters in Action worth picking up? I may be easily amused, but I think the Albatros book and most of the Squadron WWI titles are worth having if for nothing else than as an inexpensive source of reference photographs and color plates/profiles. OK, so they're more useful if you know a little and can pick out the errors. They're not up to accuracy/value of the old Profiles, but at least they're available... Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Squadron Publishing, professional or otherwise. (If I did, they'd bloody well be covering more interesting 'planes that haven't been done by Rimell already. A new title on the Breguet 14 would be handy about now.) Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:26:22 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: French bomb colors/Breguet prop Message-ID: <344D9C8E.A26@silkroadjewels.com> I've managed to find stand-ins (1/72 Lufftwaffe SC 50 leftovers) for the ordnance on the Breguet, but what color should it be? Light grey? Olive green? For anyone working on Breguet projects, there's a few minutes of good footage of them in the last intstallment of FYOT. It appears that there may have been at least two slightly different types of mica windows fitted to B.2s... I've discovered the K&B Bre 14 prop was apparently actually intended to be fitted to the DH2...looks like I may up whittling a new one. TIA, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:16:02 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: THINGS ON FLOATS Message-ID: <344E34D2.3A9C@eis.net.au> I'm exhausted Breaking the land speed record on foot has been exciting but I'm getting too old for this - TRUE CONFESSIONS Real reasons for being on-the-go with several projects at once are (a) I have the attention span of a three year old anyway (b) with the frustrations of my job ANY change of scene is welcome (c) I have been away from modeling for so long I like to " stage " projects to (re) discover pit-falls and apply that to something at the same stage without doing the Pearson AAAARRRGGGGGHHHH !!! ( audible from Canada ... sorry Bob but the last one was a ripper ! ) ON EVERY project (d) I just cann't help myself Having bared my soul so publically I rely ( however forlornly ) on the inherant decency and sense of fair play I have seen on the List in the hope of being spared a public flogging ... Aw, yeh right if you believe that .... RED CROSS parcel time !! Yipeee !! Hell Shane, I'm nearly decent now I'm actually buying stuff ! Very kind offer as always AND THANK YOU but have the new Fdh stuff - Data and latest issue of Windsock too ! If you've got any refs on the Gotha W series ( perhaps " German Aircraft of the First WW " might be worth a quick squizzy ) you can throw into the Parcel be very grateful for that and anything else that you can spare on the usual basis - PS Are we still leaving for collection and return as per previously ? Await confirmation Kind Regards DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:24:17 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Let's Talk Lozenge! Message-ID: > > >5.) Should I be worrying about more important issues...perhaps asteroid > >collisions? Almost - I believe it would have been impossible to maintain exact colour mixes given the vagaries of pigment etc supply in Germany in 1917/18 and think there must have been a spread of colour values at any one time. I think any two planes on an airfield would probably be slightly different and once the sun had bleached or yellowed (take your pick) the cellulose dopes there would be no one definitive answer. Heck, somebodey even said that some of the transfer manufacturers cant keep their shades exact - what chance different suppliers during wartime with erratic supply. Also think of the variation in wallpaper batches - with modern technology. No, I strive to have all my lozenge models - (and PC10 but even more so) - within the same range of colours but slightly different - using different manufacturers decals achieves this rather well I think. Nothing would look worse than a line up of planes from different factories and build dates all looking identical in shade. My tuppence worth Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:45:56 -0400 From: "Denest, Michael J" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: going to London Message-ID: <21A9C368581DD011986600805FEABAD4E2FFCD@xch-phl-01.he.boeing.com> Should you develop a powerful thirst while you are touring the museums, try a pub called The Sun. I remember it being over on West Lamb's Conduit (near the Childrens Hospital). I think it was a short walk from the Leicester Square tube. It's a free house which means that they can buy any variety of beer from across the country. If you go there, hoist an Old Peculiar for me! Mike Denest Rapid Prototyping Center The Boeing Company Building 3-29 M/S P38-01 PO Box 16858 Philadelphia, PA 19142 Phone 1-610-591-4681 Fax 1-610-591-4444 e-mail to: michael.denest@PHL.boeing.com > ---------- > From: > knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no[SMTP:knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 6:24 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: going to London > > Gentlemen, > > When you take the underground to Colindale to go to the RAF Museum at > Hendon, > you should turn to the right when you leave the station and visit > Hannants shop. > My tactic has sometimes been to pick up the latest Hannants catalogue > and > read it > while taking a break at the RAF Museum before returning to do some > serious > shopping. > > For books, you have quite a good selection in the RAF Museum, in > Central London > try The Aviation Bookshop in 656 Holloway Road and Foyles in Charing > Cross Road. > > One shop which has a lot of WW1 and Science Fiction kits is Comet > Miniatures > in 46-48 Lavender Hill, but their opening hours are somewhat > irregular. > > One often overlooked place which has a number of WW1 planes is the > Science > Museum, > the aviation department is old fashioned, dusty and dark, but you get > to see > some planes that you are unlikely to see anywhere else. (Open on > Sunday) > > Eders > Knut Erik > > >Hi all > >next weekend I will travel to London (from Friday to Monday). > >Can you give me the address of some good shop or book store? > >I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at > >Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it? > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:18:39 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "'WW1 List'" Subject: Hannants website Message-ID: <01BCDF27.B7373B20@user12.argo.net.au> Don't get too excited chaps. The Hannants website is nothing more than a = single screen advising that on-line ordering will be available soon. = Anyway, thought y'all might want to bookmark it ready for when it is a = more going concern. it's at: =20 [InternetShortcut] URL=3Dhttp://www.hannants.co.uk/ Oooooh I can't wait. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:12:00 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "'WW1 List'" Subject: New book Message-ID: <01BCDF27.B58BFC20@user12.argo.net.au> I was browsing in Perth's one and only half decent bookshop (for = military books i.e.) today when I came across a WW1 title I had never = seen before. Being the impulsive type and having just received a modest = tax return I bought it without thinking twice. It has a 1997 imprint. It's called German Knights of the Air and is = written by Terry C. Treadwell and Alan C. Wood. It contains a page or two about all Blue Max recipients. While much of = the biographical data and many of the photos are familiar, some are not. = As well as the aces we all know by name, there are some other BM = recipients such as Buttlar-Brandenfels (airship commander) and Ernst = Brandenburg (Gotha pilot) Hans-Georg Horn (an observer!!) Alfred Keller = (night bomber pilot) and several others who are all new to me. The authors acknowledgements include Jack Bruce, Chaz Bowyer and Neal = O'connor. Anyone else come across this book?=20 Cheers David S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:46:57 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Hannants website Message-ID: <199710221246.UAA04090@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> Hi David, At 08:23 AM 10/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >Don't get too excited chaps. The Hannants website is nothing more than a = >single screen advising that on-line ordering will be available soon. = The downside here is that it has been that way for quite some time now. >URL=3Dhttp://www.hannants.co.uk/ ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi Subject: Re: THINGS ON FLOATS Message-ID: Bob Norgren of Sierra Scale Models made a 1/72nd scale Gotha WD 7 vac. I have built this kit and must say that it looks very nice and compares favorably with plans and photos in the Harleyford marine aircraft book. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 05:54:59 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: RE: going to London Message-ID: <199710200554.FAA17957@lo.itline.it> Hi guys Thanks a lot for all the infos, with your help my travel will be perfect. I just need another info please: it is possible to go to Duxford Imperial war museum by train? I ask this because I did not see any mention of a rail station near the museum. I only know that Duxford is 12 km south of Cambridge. I was thinking to go to the museum by taxy, but if train is less expensive,(I guess it is) I would like to save money for models. Thanks Franco ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: charms of Albatros D.II? Message-ID: <971022151826_1046973571@emout16.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-22 14:19:08 EDT, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > Hello All, > > I don't like Albatros D.II well. My favorite Albatros fighter is only D.V/Va. > Does anyone talk about charms of your Albatros D.II? >> Greetings everybody Yes! Something about those slab-sided early Albatros fighters looks so business-like yet elegant.These early ones snarled- the later ones grinned. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:37:00 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: SSW D. III Message-ID: <971022163616_2101847548@emout03.mail.aol.com> To one and all regarding Paul H.'s SSW D.III- good job. Nice prop, engine, dark stained fuselage and everything else. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 06:07:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Enjoying the hobby - reprise Message-ID: <199710222117.HAA22339@mimmon.mim.com.au> > Hi all, > > A few hours ago I posted on the subject of taking things *too* > seriously > and noted that a truly terrible case of AMS had almost wrecked it for > me > a few years ago. Since then I have been made to wear my "It's a hobby, > stupid" lapel button (by my wife) whenever I get too damned picky. > > By coincidence, the model which caused it was today posted on the IPMS > Queensland web site, with some other models from QMHE'97 > > http://www.petrie.starway.net.au/~jacleo/expo.html > > Take heed all ye true WW1 modellers and beware. Building out of topic > can be dangerous to your sanity. (My model is the first one on the > page, > and has at least the connection to WW1 that it was built by a company > bearing a famous Sopwith employees name) > > Shane > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 722 *********************