WWI Digest 720 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Let's Talk Lozenge! by Alberto Rada 2) MPM Brandenburg W.29 by Shane Weier 3) Re: Pegasus Releases by DavidL1217@aol.com 4) going to London by Franco Poloni 5) Re: Favorites by Franco Poloni 6) Re: going to London by mgoodwin 7) Enjoy FREE stuff on the Internet by 729662@ican.net 8) Re: going to London by Alberto Rada 9) Naval Nieuport 28 by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Detective work by Brian Nicklas 11) Re: Merlin 1/48 kits by Hirohisa Ozaki 12) Re: K&B Breguet by John & Allison Cyganowski 13) RE: K&B Breguet by Shane Weier 14) Re: Naval Nieuport 28 by mbittner@juno.com 15) Re: Favorite enamel paint removal methods / K&B Breguet by "Jim Lyzun" 16) Re: Air Kits Moranes by DavidL1217@aol.com 17) Re: K&B Breguet by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) Re: Merlin 1/48 kits by mail@silkroadjewels.com 19) Re: Naval Nieuport 28 by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 20) Re: Riordan: Wolves/off topic by mail@silkroadjewels.com 21) Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply by Peter Mitchell 22) Re: AirKits ( Veterans 72 Redux?) by DavidL1217@aol.com 23) Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply by mail@silkroadjewels.com 24) Re: Naval Nieuport 28 by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 25) Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply -Reply by Peter Mitchell 26) Re: Naval Nieuport 28 by Bob Pearson 27) Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply -Reply by Bob Pearson 28) Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply by B-A-L 29) Re: MPM Brandenburg W.29 by Hirohisa Ozaki 30) the SMER Albatros by Peter Mitchell 31) Re: going to London by Sandy Adam ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:13:37 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: RE: Let's Talk Lozenge! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971020171337.0075951c@pop.true.net> I was wiven once in England a License to Kill, but only Color Police guys, I am told that they give them to every one these days. SALUDOS ALBERTO At 04:05 PM 20-10-97 -0400, you wrote: > >Personally I am proud of my 'Artistic License' . . . . > >Regards, > Bob Pearson > >---------- >> Shane wrote: > >> > (Card carrying member of the Colour Police Hunting and Taxidermy >> > Society) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:53:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: MPM Brandenburg W.29 Message-ID: <199710202201.IAA10214@mimmon.mim.com.au> Hi all, I thought I'd post a few comments on the MPM W.29 kit which has just started its journey across my work top. I've previously posted on this subject noting that it seems one of the best WW1 kits I've sen in /72, and I still think its excellent value. But there are a couple of changes that really must be made to capture the look of the original. As Hiro noted yesterday "It is nice kit, molding, proportion and detail. But mine wing parts had "dihedral" in outer wing." The wing should have dihedral in the inner portion and a kink at the point where the struts join beneath the wing, so that the outer panels are very nearly flat. I cured mine by the technique used in vacforms to *induce* dihedral. First, I removed the ailerons, then with a razor saw slit the underside of the wing almost through parallel to the rib stations. Pull the tip down to close the gap and run a little CyA into the slit and the job is done. The ailerons also lack the characteristic washout at the tips. This is simple to add by *slightly* heating the part and twisting the trailing edge at the tip upwards. The balance portion of the aileron should stay parallel with the inboard edge of the part, so there is a fairly sharp kink at the hinge line (See photo 46 in Datafile) In plan view, the wing leading edge should be a straight line, but they curve slightly forward at the tip. It's scarcely noticeable unless you place a straightedge on it, but the truly dedicated (lunatic) will try to reduce the LE at the tip slightly to improve this. I refined the tip (aileron balance) of the aileron, which is rather thick compared to the photos, cleaned up the remaining edges and cleaned up the wings. Also cleaned up and mated the float parts. They go together well, detail is a little different from the Stair plans but not enough to bother me (I wonder why we always assume the plan draughtsman is *right* and the toolmaker is *wrong* ?) Time elapsed - about 1 hour total. So far, enjoyable, and the changes made come under the classification or minor tweaking. If MPM would only produce the model in 1:48 as well I'd be a very happy little vvegemite Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:57:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Pegasus Releases Message-ID: <971020174947_1111379246@emout17.mail.aol.com> Czech Republic?!!! I thought it was the Austro Hungarian Empire. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:51:04 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: going to London Message-ID: <199710180951.JAA10715@lo.itline.it> Hi all next weekend I will travel to London (from Friday to Monday). Can you give me the address of some good shop or book store? I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it? Thanks P.s Does Skybirds'86 have a distributor in London? I would like to buy their Lloyd CV. Thanks Franco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:50:59 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: Re: Favorites Message-ID: <199710180950.JAA10712@lo.itline.it> Hi All here are my fovourites: Caproni ca3 Gotha GVb Friedrichshafen GII/III Lloyd CV Macchi M5 Felixtowe F2a Franco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:19:32 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: going to London Message-ID: <344BE704.5B11@ricochet.net> Franco Poloni wrote: > > Hi all > next weekend I will travel to London (from Friday to Monday). > Can you give me the address of some good shop or book store? > I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at > Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it? > Thanks > P.s Does Skybirds'86 have a distributor in London? > I would like to buy their Lloyd CV. > Thanks > > Franco Franco, I can recommend Hannats, but can't tell you where it is anymore. It was down the street from the RAF museum, but has moved since then. I bought a Rareplanes Gotha & Aeroclub set, AEG G.IV, Usk I-15 and Blue Rider decals all at reasonable prices. Be advised, the gift shop at either the RAF/Hendon or Imperial War Museum (can't remember which) stocks nearly all the datafiles at some of the best prices you'll see, so bring your life savings. Lucky bloody you! Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:45:59 -0400 (EDT) From: 729662@ican.net To: 729662@ican.net Subject: Enjoy FREE stuff on the Internet Message-ID: <199710202345.TAA03692@mail0.tor.acc.ca> Hi I got your email address from what appeared to be a relevant Internet site. I believe one of the main reason people enjoy the Internet is the Free Stuff, such as free software, free homepage, free greeting card, etc. You’re well welcome to join our Free Stuff newsletter mailing list. Now there are more than 3,000 members on the list. 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Stephan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:05:49 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: going to London Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971020200549.00759660@pop.true.net> Hi Franco I really should not tell you ( Red, Green, and Yelow envy ) did you guys over this side of the ocean read that: "I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it ? " OK I am weak at heart, here is Hannants address: 157 - 159 Colindale Avenue, London NW9 HR Telephone 0181 205 6697 OK you bugger, enjoy it for all of us. SALUDOS ALBERTO At 07:31 PM 20-10-97 -0400, you wrote: >Franco Poloni wrote: >> >> Hi all >> next weekend I will travel to London (from Friday to Monday). >> Can you give me the address of some good shop or book store? >> I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at >> Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it? >> Thanks >> P.s Does Skybirds'86 have a distributor in London? >> I would like to buy their Lloyd CV. >> Thanks >> >> Franco > >Franco, > >I can recommend Hannats, but can't tell you where it is anymore. It was >down the street from the RAF museum, but has moved since then. >I bought a Rareplanes Gotha & Aeroclub set, AEG G.IV, Usk I-15 and Blue >Rider decals all at reasonable prices. >Be advised, the gift shop at either the RAF/Hendon or Imperial War >Museum (can't remember which) stocks nearly all the datafiles at some of >the best prices you'll see, so bring your life savings. > >Lucky bloody you! > >Riordan > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Naval Nieuport 28 Message-ID: <971020200152_323738035@emout04.mail.aol.com> Hello My lunatic 12 1/2 year old son has the Revell 1/72 N28 and wants to build the U.S.Navy battleship version. About all we have to go on is the old Profile Pub. He wants to know the paint job (silver dope?) Armed? Any obvious mods? The weird kid wants to make the U.S.S.Arizona airplane. Thanks Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 20:31:46 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Detective work Message-ID: <199710210035.UAA12637@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Sandy, Truly a great reason to be on the list. Makes all the spamming almost see livable. I hope Eduard meets your plea, I think we'd all like to see Noth's a/c come to life again! -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:46:01 +0900 From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin 1/48 kits Message-ID: <199710210046.JAA00994@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp> Sorry, I forgot that you can get Tom's vac kit if it is available. I strongly recommend Tom's vac kit too. Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:39:37 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: K&B Breguet Message-ID: <344C07D9.1046@worldnet.att.net> mgoodwin wrote: > > You gotta love those old plans and Aurora draftsmen. I noticed last > night the pitch on the bloody prop is backwards! @$#%! > Oh, well. A prop is easy to replace. > > Cheers, > > Riordan I think you got the Australian version of the kit. Down-under on the other side of the world the engines turn the other way 'round! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:04:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: K&B Breguet Message-ID: <199710210213.MAA16944@mimmon.mim.com.au> Riordan says: >I think you got the Australian version of the kit. Down-under on the >other side of the world the engines turn the other way 'round! Exactly. And the propellor stands still Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:14:47 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Naval Nieuport 28 Message-ID: <19971020.201520.4614.6.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:15:14 -0400 KarrArt@aol.com writes: > My lunatic 12 1/2 year old son has the Revell 1/72 N28 and wants > to build the U.S.Navy battleship version. About all we have to > go on is the old Profile Pub. Hey, at least he's building the right *type* of a/c. Just keep him away from the Bf-10thingies. ;-) > He wants to know the paint job (silver dope?) > Armed? > Any obvious mods? > The weird kid wants to make the U.S.S.Arizona airplane. There are two photo's of a post-war US Navy plane on (according to the caption) USS Oklahoma. Here's the caption: "Twelve Nieuport 28's, doubtless ex-USAS, were acquired by the US Navy in the post-war years, and had the USN designation numbers A-5794 to A-5808. This one, photographed aboard the USS Oklahoma, was fitted with Grain flotation gear and a hydrovane on its undercarriage, and was apparently intended for evaluating the Royal Navy's technique of operating aeroplanes from small flight platforms or ramps mounted on the gun turrets of battleships." It appears that the Nie.28 is one solid color. I would guess aluminum, or maybe even the single color gray the US Navy used between the wars. The "roundels" are the first generation stars with red centers; however, the pictures only show the ones on the underside lower wing. Good luck in your endeavor, and if I find anything else, I'll let you know. Matt Bittner np: Mary Lydia Ryan, _Mary Lydia Ryan_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:52:40 +0500 From: "Jim Lyzun" To: wwi Subject: Re: Favorite enamel paint removal methods / K&B Breguet Message-ID: <19971020225240.575f8cc9.in@mail.baynet.net> I've left 'EASY-OFF" oven cleaner on models for days (I'm easily distracted - okay!) with no adverse affects. I've tried a number of homemade solutions and I don't recommend brake fluid - it can cause more damage to you than the model. Another exotic formula dissolves DRANO (crystals) in alcohol. The plastic comes out positively shiny. With all these, test on a scrap piece first and take personal precautions with all corrosives. Jim Lyzun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Air Kits Moranes Message-ID: <971020220031_1734738900@emout08.mail.aol.com> I had a chance to compare the new French resins to the FMP book. The Morane P is a bit undernurished in the wings, (3/16" each side) and the fuselage (length 1/8" and a bit in girth) However, it does match the drawings on its own instructions! ( I have seen kits that did not even match their own plans!) The FMP drawings appear more accurate that the drawings for the kit. Still, on it's own this will make a fine addition. The AC however is Spot On. I will build this one for the OTF seminar next May. Alas, neither comes with decals. Fortunately, the pennent of esc. 76 (MS AC) will not too difficult! These kits are 11.06 Pounds each. Not bad at Meikraft prices! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:15:36 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: K&B Breguet Message-ID: <199710210415.AA02228@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan writes > >You gotta love those old plans and Aurora draftsmen. I noticed last >night the pitch on the bloody prop is backwards! @$#%! >Oh, well. A prop is easy to replace. Nah - the prop is correct. In a long suppressed incident in the fall of 1917, an error at the procurement section of the Aviation Militaire resulted in some 50 Breguet 14's being delivered while equipped with Salmson A2 props. Widespread carnage resulted among the Breguet escadrilles as the attempts to get the aircraft airborne while moving in reverse were uniformly unsuccessful. The French Military, still reeling from the army mutinies of the previous summer quickly hushed the incident up although the head of the procurement section was quietly reassigned to the Serbian front. The prop provided with the Aurora kit is a fine replica of a Salmson prop and was Aurora's attempt to model one of these ill-fated Breguets. :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:20:36 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin 1/48 kits Message-ID: <344C2D94.310E@silkroadjewels.com> Scott M. Head wrote: > > >Has anyone bought or seen the Merlin Roland C.II and Nieuport 10? Juan at > >Sopwith has them for $15.95. At that price I assume they're somewhere > >between Eduard and Monogram. Opinions? > > The CII is somewhere between Eduard and Hell! Not really that bad, but a a > few choice words will certainly be needed in construction! Bottom line, 15 > bucks is a fair price. If you guys end up building these, you may want to seriously consider applying an orbital sander to the underside of the wings to thin 'em out. Laugh all you want, but I resorted to this with my Smer Albatros and it worked very well. I've seriously considered this while eyeing the Salmson kit with bad intent. A little double-sided tape to hold the wing in place and let it rip! Smooth out undersurface, add rib detail to suit and use the time you saved to superdetail interior features no one will ever see ;-). Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:29:06 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Naval Nieuport 28 Message-ID: <199710210429.AA08589@ednet1.orednet.org> Robert writes: > >Hello > My lunatic 12 1/2 year old son has the Revell 1/72 N28 and wants to build >the U.S.Navy battleship version. About all we have to go on is the old >Profile Pub. > He wants to know the paint job (silver dope?) My sources give June of 1919 as the date of the directive to paint all fabric surfaces with aluminum dope (other surfaces gray). As to my recollection the battleship trials occured after that date, aluminum is a good bet. But if my recollection is wrong, the pre-June, 1919 standard color scheme for naval aircraft was "low visability naval gray enamel". > Armed? At least some were - Combat Squadron Three is referenced as the "only fully armed fighter squadron in the Navy" in 1920. > Any obvious mods? Dunno. >The weird kid wants to make the U.S.S.Arizona airplane. Doesn't sound _that_ weird to me. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:36:56 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Riordan: Wolves/off topic Message-ID: <344C3168.21DF@silkroadjewels.com> Patrick Padovan wrote: > > Dear Riordan: "Shkura's Wolves" ? Sounds interesting. Please enlarge upon > this topic. Who, what, where? > Curiously, Patrick > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Padovan > Interlibrary Loan Associate > > Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 > 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 > Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick, I'll give the short answer from memory: They were a particularly infamous divizion of Cossacks (who were cavlrymen, not pilots) under General Shkura or Shkuro, (as Osprey spells it) who helped mopped up Bolshevik columns in Southern Russia after the 47th Squadron was finished with them c.1919-20. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:48:03 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply Message-ID: Riordan, Many thanks for this terrific idea! :-) As Bob, Shane and Alexadre already know I'm currently hacking into this old dinosaur (Smer Albatros) in an attempt to make it a DV. You have just provided a possible solution to a task I had no joy contemplating...... >If you guys end up building these, you may want to seriously consider >applying an orbital sander to the underside of the wings to thin 'em >out. Laugh all you want, but I resorted to this with my Smer Albatros >and it worked very well. I've seriously considered this while eyeing the >Salmson kit with bad intent. A little double-sided tape to hold the >wing in place and let it rip! Smooth out undersurface, add rib detail to >suit I'm off to the garden shed this week-end....... Cheers Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:07:44 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: AirKits ( Veterans 72 Redux?) Message-ID: <971020175659_1801813425@emout20.mail.aol.com> I just received from Hannants a couple of resine Morane kits in 1/72 from AirKit of France. These appear to be the resurrected Veterans 72 range. These kits are very nice. I do not have time tonight to compare with the FMP drawings, so a report on dimensions will follow. The Moranes I received are the Morane P and the AC. (A broad shouldered development of the N with ailerons and underwing struts.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:08:08 -0700 From: mail@silkroadjewels.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply Message-ID: <344C38B8.227F@silkroadjewels.com> Peter Mitchell wrote: > > Riordan, > > Many thanks for this terrific idea! :-) > As Bob, Shane and Alexadre already know I'm currently hacking into this > old dinosaur (Smer Albatros) in an attempt to make it a DV. You have just > provided a possible solution to a task I had no joy contemplating...... Pete, Be careful when sanding, as heat generated can soften and even melt plastic. Use extreme caution when trying to unwarp wings with heat gun or boiling water, as Czech plastic seems to have little heat deflection. And of course, stick to finer (400 grit?) grades of sand paper to avoid having to fill gouges/scratches later. If you need any details on corrections, let me know. I finally finished mine a few weeks back. Too cheap to buy the Eduard like me? I must admit there is a certain gratification which only comes from working on a sow's ear.. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Naval Nieuport 28 Message-ID: <971021012921_-824604899@emout15.mail.aol.com> Hey Robert! "Lunatic"? "Wierd kid"? Ease up on the kid, huh? 1.) He wants to build a model (rare among kids these days). 2.) He wants to do a WWI aeroplane (not a jet). 3.) He doesn't want to do a red Dr.I. Be thankful. However you dropped him as a baby, it worked out okay. ;^) If you're THAT unhappy with him, Matt (Mr 1/72) will probably adopt him. 8^) Have Fun!! IRA PS--Sorry, I only have the Profile Pub, too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:06:57 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply -Reply Message-ID: >>> 21/October/1997 03:19pm >>> Riordan, >Be careful when sanding, as heat generated can soften and even melt >plastic. Use extreme caution when trying to unwarp wings with heat >gun or boiling water, as Czech plastic seems to have little heat >deflection. Yes, I found this out when I tried to make some stretched sprue form the runners. It's not too good for this. >And of course, stick to finer (400 grit?) grades of sand paper to avoid >having to fill gouges/scratches later. Will do. >If you need any details on corrections, let me know. I finally finished >mine a few weeks back. Too cheap to buy the Eduard like me? I must >admit there is a certain gratification which only comes from working on >a sow's ear.. Not too cheap, I was just ignorant of just how bad this kit was. I guess I had the Smer Fokker DVII in mind when I bought it. The decals are good though :-) I have the Eduard kit of the DV and I promise never, ever to do the Smer kit again! However since I have this artifact there's no harm in the oppourtunity for a little practise in plastic surgery :-) If the list is interested in the progress of this little project I can give the odd report on it as it goes along. Otherwise I'll save the questions for Riordan. Cheers Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:26:20 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Naval Nieuport 28 Message-ID: <06262029105160@KAIEN.COM> Robert, Perhaps, in the case of fairness, your 'lunatic' son should be allowed rebuttle space to describe his father - or is that left for the therapist in years to come? :-) The Datafile on the Ni.28 shows two photos of trials onboard USS Oklahoma. in the front view photo a hydrovane forward of the front U/C strut is visible, and the caption mentions that it was also fitted with the Grain Flotation device. Bob Pearson ---------- > From: KarrArt@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Naval Nieuport 28 > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:15:14 -0400 > > Hello > My lunatic 12 1/2 year old son has the Revell 1/72 N28 and wants to build > the U.S.Navy battleship version. About all we have to go on is the old > Profile Pub. > He wants to know the paint job (silver dope?) > Armed? > Any obvious mods? > The weird kid wants to make the U.S.S.Arizona airplane. > Thanks > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:28:58 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply -Reply Message-ID: <06285834905169@KAIEN.COM> Pete, Send 'em along. I enjoy reading others progress since mine have been put on hold .... Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:55:32 +0000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros wing formerly: Merlin 1/48 kits -Reply Message-ID: <344CDE84.179C@eis.net.au> Calling all SMER Fans !!! Another Quote from Harry Woodman something to the effect ... Albatros DIII " a rather confused offerring somewhere between a D III and a DV " Well Harry is being VERY polite - As a D III it's aweful - The engine is about one scale foot short. The fuselage profile by Ian Stairs Windsock drawing ( and I'm certain Ian is correct !!! ) is horrible - Another scale foot too high behind the cockpit and the profile between the bottom of the leading edge of the wing to a point about half way along the bottom of the fuselage is too thick too. I gave up after this review in despair !! How do you correct the SMER Albatros - It looks like a nightmare !!! Anyone game to do a short item for the WW1 Modeling page assuming it rates the disc space !?? or do we consign this one to Juniouir's toy box ? David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:54:35 +0900 From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: MPM Brandenburg W.29 Message-ID: <199710210654.PAA02742@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp> Hello Shane, I have interest in this way, how do you correct "dihedral". I use hair dryer, heat and warp correctly by hands. It was very hot;-) Cheers, Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:46:28 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: the SMER Albatros Message-ID: David wrote.......... >How do you correct the SMER Albatros - It looks like a nightmare !!! >Anyone game to do a short item for the WW1 Modeling page assuming it >rates the disc space !?? or do we consign this one to Juniouir's toy >box ? Welcome to my nightmare...... :-O Riordan may really be the best person to ask on this, but here's what I've been doing... I don't have the data-file yet so I've been using the Eduard DV kit as guide and the drawings of I. Stair. It is so true that the fuselage is too tall and too deep so I hacked off the upper decking behind the cockpit, about were it starts to flatten out. I did the same for the lower deck. There are convenient panel lines marking the cuts. I also cut out the top deck forward of the cockpit. The nose seems pretty darn close to the plan and the plastic is (was) thick so I then shaped it with a jewellers file as close as could to the shape of Eduard kit. This includes filing off all lugs, cooling vents etc. and it also makes the wing fuselage join much better. The plastic is now some-what more transparent. Next problem, how to keep the two fuselage halfs together? there's not much plastic now to do this. I made three bulkheads similar to those in the Eduard kit. These were made from balsa (reinforced with paper and doped) and the shapes came from using plasticene and a freezer. I've cleaned up the interior and have started to detail it. The "gaps" that were created previously allow you to get well into the cockpit so I will save most of this detail till later when the sides are sercured together. I've copied the Eduard kit details and put in the formers and stringers. The "Engine" was bined... I'm robbing mine from Eduard and giving the Eduard kit an Aero-club replacement (later on). I've added plastic card to the engine cowl and shaped this to that scallop pattern around the cylinders as seen in Albatrossen. God Bless Eduard for providing three props and two spinners in their kit! Thus providing the Smer kit with the same, the Smer spinner is very helpful in providing support in the nose while putting the sides together and keeping the shape right. The wing cut-out is too big and the leading edge of the tips are too short. I've been building these up with plastic card laminations and sand/carve to shape. Alerons are removed (as per plan not as per kit has them marked!). So now for some fun with the orbital sander. That is as far as I've got. The fuselage will get new decking from balsa inserts and pastic card and probably a lot of milliput..... Stay tuned :-) Riordan, how does this compare with what you did? Cheers Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:44:47 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: going to London Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Franco Poloni wrote: > Hi all > next weekend I will travel to London (from Friday to Monday). > Can you give me the address of some good shop or book store? > I will spend the Friday in Raf museum at Hendon, then the Saturday at > Duxford, at the Imperial War Museum, nice program uh? isn't it? Somebody else has already mentioned that the RAF Museum shop is pretty well stocked, but I don't think they do Eduards any more - on my last visit they were selling them off at half price! If you are getting tube to Hendon you will get off at Colindale which is exactly where the Hannants London shop is (This has not moved - it was the warehouse in East Anglia which moved). If you are walking or driving you will see the tube station on a London A-Z and it is only a couple of minutes away. They usually have a good selection of old second hand kits as well as the best new selection I have seen. I mentioned that Hannats were selling off DML Fokker D.VIIs (Udet) and D.VIIIs at 9.95GBP at an Air Show in September so there may be some of these left too. Another shop worth a visit is Comet Miniatures who specialise in WW1 and took over TJ Models which has one of the biggest selectionbs of collectors kits - lots of old Auroras etc at about 25GBP. they still have copies of the Betley WW1 guide for example and keep all the Merlins and Pegasus, Blue Max etc. Comet Miniatures 46-48 Lavender Hill London SW11 5RH Take lots of pounds or plastic, Lucky man! Sandy ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 720 *********************