WWI Digest 702 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Renault book (was Re: Contest) by GRBroman@aol.com 2) Re: W.29 -Reply by Peter Mitchell 3) Re: Wings vac vs. Merlin Salmson 2A2 by "Scott M. Head" 4) Re: Yellowed Decals by "Bill Ciciora" 5) Re: Engine drawings by mgoodwin 6) Re: new guy - Gotha Nacelles by mgoodwin 7) Re: Wings vac vs. Merlin Salmson 2A2 by mgoodwin 8) Re: Pfalz cockpits -Reply by Peter Mitchell 9) Re: Yellowed Decals by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 10) Propagteam D.V D.Va decals by Shane Weier 11) Re: Engine drawings by Bob Pearson 12) RE: Yellowed Decals by Shane Weier 13) Re: out of the closet by Shane Weier 14) Re: Propagteam D.V D.Va decals by Mick Fauchon 15) Scratchbuilding by Shane Weier 16) Re: Tom's 1/48 scale Pfalz D.XII by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 17) Re: Another FNG and Kit Collection for Sale by mbittner@juno.com 18) Re: Contest by mbittner@juno.com 19) Yellow-dog decals by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 20) Another Texan by Suvoroff@aol.com 21) rosemond model contest by "TIM" 22) Re: Dragon prices by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 23) Re: Scratchbuilding by Jesse Thorn 24) PRC Modeling and Dragon prices by Jesse Thorn 25) Re: rosemond model contest by mgoodwin 26) Eduards 1/48 WWI kits by BStett3770@aol.com 27) Re: Fokker fuse fairings by Geoff Smith 28) Re: PRC Modeling and Dragon prices by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 29) Edwards kits Rosemont by BStett3770@aol.com 30) Re: rosemond model contest by "TIM" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Renault book (was Re: Contest) Message-ID: <971007205011_1543969837@emout07.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-07 08:40:10 EDT, you write: << Uhmm, excuse me..........Renault book? (he asks with breathlessly excited anticipation) >> Yup, it will be in the Museum Ordnance series. I have it pretty much wrapped up but a few final details ahve taken second fiddle to my day job schedule. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:29:57 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Re: W.29 -Reply Message-ID: >>> Charles Hart 8/October/1997 02:46am >>> Charles, >Thanks for the review Pete. I have yet to see an MPM W.29 here in the >States (has anyone else??). I think the Pegasus kit is a little overpriced >for the limited number of pieces you get. Granted the molding of both >the metal and plastic bits is very, very good. I did find that the Pegasus >floats are a little short compared with the known dimensions given in >the Datafile. Pegaus gives you two molded pieces (fore and aft) for the >float struts, so these don't have to be constructed, you just need to use >the contrail strut material for the wing struts. I'm afraid Pegasus kits are hideously expensive out here, I'd like nothing more than to be able to afford the Albat DV (The Eduard 1/48 is cheaper) rather than repair the old Airfix work horse...... So I've not seen their W-29. The only Pegasus kit I have is the Roland DV (?)..... the one with the nice wooden decking, I picked that up ceaply at a sale. But I digress... > Is there any PE in the MPM kit ? There surely is.... forward bulkhead detail, instrument panel (with film for dials etc like Eduard does), rudder bar, seat harness, control wheel and control surface lugs. No Spandau jackets unfortunately. > It sounds as though the Pegasus naval hex camo decals are better than the MPM offerings. The Pegasus decals I got were well registered. Probably, this kits are made by Propacteam and it's the first naval loz I've really seen. I think something can probably be done with it, but then again I will try and recover Eduard lozenge. Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:31:07 -0600 From: "Scott M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Wings vac vs. Merlin Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: <9710072030.aa10549@mail.iapc.net> >I've seen this hanging around the local robbery shop for $35+. Nice kit >with metal bits and bloody huge,outstanding decal sheet. Out of >production? Anyone built it? Worth the price? Also there is a stack of >Merlin's version for $23.00 with nothing going for it other than it's an >injection kit. > >Riordan Hi Riordan, I too have the Wings vac, but my "other" 1/48 Salmson is a Czechmaster kit recently purchased from AvUsk. What I plan to do is build up a really nice one from combining the Wings vac'd fuselage and the Czechmaster wings. The metal parts of the Wings kit look like they will work better than the resin ones in the Czech kit. I can only assume from other Merlin kits that the resin would be better than the limited run Merlin parts, but I could be wrong. I am waiting on stumbling accross suitable interior detail drawings or photos. The Wings kit is worth every penny just for the decal sheets. I may have to buy another! For what it's worth, the Czech resin kit is pretty nice but badly warped. The detail on the cowl is a bit crisper than the vac kit, but overall, believe it or not, Wings really captured the look and feel of the Salmson better. Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/Houston IPMS/USA 32841 smh@iapc.net IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum: http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:52:04 -0500 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: Yellowed Decals Message-ID: Mike asks: > Anything I can do to the old decals to get the color back to white? I have not tried this method, but it comes from a Kalmbach publication who should presumably know what they're talking about. Tape the decal sheet to a window (southern exposure would work best) with the decals facing outward. Make sure it's a window that does not sweat, or you'll have all your decals transferred to the window. The sun will bleach the yellow out. This will take a few weeks. Once the yellow is bleached out, use the decals soon or they'll yellow again. Hope this works. Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:30:45 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Engine drawings Message-ID: <343AF055.70F0@ricochet.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Now that the DH4 and various Sopwith GAs are out of the way I am now > wondering about general arrangement drawings of various engines. Does anyone > know of a source showing most variants? > > Regards, > Bob Pearson Bob, I have some of the old Wylam drawings and you are welcome to copies. Do you own Jane's WWI book? It has a good section on engines w/ photos and specs but few drawings. I'll have your DH4 stuff in the mail tomorrow. Sorry for the lag. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:39:05 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: new guy - Gotha Nacelles Message-ID: <343AF249.17A4@ricochet.net> B-A-L wrote: > > Riordan, > > A scratch-build convert !??! > > I punched the nacelle ends, cann't afford a commercial vac mould and > haven't had time to build my own ( If you'd like a simple set of > drawings showing how to make your own vac moulder, I can give you > these too ! The set up is REALLY simple as is the design - no fine > tolerances and fiddlely joints, if that's a consolation ) - As for > templates, I'll have a bit of dig about for the envelope containing > the blanks. If you'd reply with a snail address I'll post them off > when they surface ! > > REGARDS > > David David, Thanks for the offer. I've a friend who works at a local prototype model shop who can probably show me low-tech punch molding, but if he's unavailable, I might be getting back to you! 3865 Burton Common Fremont, CA 94536 USA Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:47:14 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Wings vac vs. Merlin Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: <343AF432.6852@ricochet.net> Scott M. Head wrote: > > >I've seen this hanging around the local robbery shop for $35+. Nice kit > >with metal bits and bloody huge,outstanding decal sheet. Out of > >production? Anyone built it? Worth the price? Also there is a stack of > >Merlin's version for $23.00 with nothing going for it other than it's an > >injection kit. > > > >Riordan > > Hi Riordan, > > I too have the Wings vac, but my "other" 1/48 Salmson is a Czechmaster kit > recently purchased from AvUsk. What I plan to do is build up a really nice > one from combining the Wings vac'd fuselage and the Czechmaster wings. The > metal parts of the Wings kit look like they will work better than the resin > ones in the Czech kit. I can only assume from other Merlin kits that the > resin would be better than the limited run Merlin parts, but I could be > wrong. I am waiting on stumbling accross suitable interior detail drawings > or photos. > > The Wings kit is worth every penny just for the decal sheets. I may have to > buy another! > > For what it's worth, the Czech resin kit is pretty nice but badly warped. > The detail on the cowl is a bit crisper than the vac kit, but overall, > believe it or not, Wings really captured the look and feel of the Salmson > better. > > Cheers! > > Scott M. Head > IPMS/Houston > IPMS/USA 32841 > smh@iapc.net > > IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum: http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh Scott, Thanks for the reply. It looks like a very nice vac, I guess I'm still adjusting to the price (I almost never buy from the shop where I saw it, as they tend to price at the very upper end of retail). Know any mail-order sources for Wings kits? How much did you pay for your Wings & Czech kit & are they still in production? Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:03:15 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Re: Pfalz cockpits -Reply Message-ID: >>> Mick Fauchon 8/October/1997 09:39am >>> Mick, >That's how it comes out in my photos as well......I'd hesitate >to call it silbergrau.I wasn't going to Canberra in a couple of >weeks.........but if you've got room in your boot for a >stowaway.........80) Mate, I'll see what I can do, but I was probably going to take the train. I will be down there for a few days and at short notice (Uni work). See how it pans out, I'll let you know. Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:13:14 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Yellowed Decals Message-ID: <199710080313.AA08210@ednet1.orednet.org> Mike Muth diligently types: >Help! > I am still working on the Ansaldo SVA, using the Artiplast kit. I >think it dates from 1968 or so. Anyway, things are progressing nicely, the >wood color on the fuselage looks nice. I just started thinking about how the >decals will look when I decided to test one out. The white is a yellowish >color. That's ok for the Serenessima banner, but the number "4" that >appears on the left and right tailplane as well as on each side of the >rudder is hopelessly wrong, even to my rather liberal viewpoint. Anything I >can do to the old decals to get the color back to white? Is it the decal color itself which has changed or is it the clear carrier film which has yellowed? If the latter, I've had good luck de-yellowing old carrier film by taping the decal to a south-facing window for a week or so and letting the sunlight bleach it out. Check frequently of course. Cheers and luck, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:24:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Propagteam D.V D.Va decals Message-ID: Hi all, Way back on the 8th Sept while I was lying on the floor, drumming my heels at the horror of being list deprived, Mike posted the folowing >their section on decals, they note a new 1/48 set from Propagteam for the >Albatros DV/DVa. They include a color copy of the sheet and it looks pretty >nice. I never saw these decals sold seperately from a model kit. Anyway, >there are 5 airplanes on the sheet: 1) NASM "STROOP"; 2) Jasta 18 white >hatchet on dark blue; 3) Walter Boning, Jasta 19(plywood fuselage w/white >band with red outline & black "B"); 4) Jasta 5 w/grey body and green >clover(?). This one is on the back of the "In Action" book; 5) Max Nather, >Jasta 62 (black body w/ red/white/black flag. I know I've seen all these in >either the Albatros fighters In Action book or the Datafile. Anyone know an >easy way to get this sheet over here? Now, I know exactly the sheet Mike means, because I got one about 5 months back at a kit swap (it was in a grab bag of assorted decals for which I paid A$5 ) But - no instruction sheet. "Stropp" is easy (and useless) so are the Jasta 5 and Jasta 18 machines. Has anyone got the sheet AND the instructions AND would be willing to send me a photocopy (B&W is okay) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:52:32 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Engine drawings Message-ID: <03523266972242@KAIEN.COM> Robert, Barry & Riordan Many thanks for your all of your offers. At present I am in dire need of a decent view of the Puma, RAF 3a, RR Eagle, various Clergets, Le Rhone, Beardmore ....... actually any engine used in Allied aircraft that would be visible will eventually be required. (and hopefully I will be allowed to do some Central Powers ones as well). Regards, Bob ---------- > From: KarrArt@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Engine drawings > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:42:23 -0400 > > Greetings all > Over the years "World War Aero"has published various engine GAs.I shall dig > around and see what I've got.Any specific engine in mind?The old Model > Airplane News Wylam drawings for the Clerget 9, Hispano Suiza family,and the > Mercedes160 and 180 really don't look all that bad- especially for model > purposes.Some of his drawings were accurate. > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:50:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Yellowed Decals Message-ID: Mike, Bill, Mikes query and Bills reply: > >>. Anything I > >>can do to the old decals to get the color back to white? > > >>Is it the decal color itself which has changed or is it the clear >>carrier film which has yellowed? If the latter, I've had good >>luck de-yellowing old carrier film by taping the decal to a >>south-facing window for a week or so and letting the sunlight >>bleach it out. Check frequently of course. Of course, for those of us who don't have to hang upside down by the soles of our feet in constant fear of falling off the World, that would be *north* facing. ;-) But since the key is UV light, you can probably get the same effect using a UV tube in a light fitting, or by sitting in a bar in some unsavoury place where the b-girls attire, the bar towels, and the clients teeth are all whitened by UV lighting :-) You *do* need to be able to explain why you spend your time standing with one hand held high holding a sheet of paper which *isn't* a geenback Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:23:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: Hi all, I'm still catching up the content of the digests and saw this thread had come and gone without me :-( So for the sake of completeness, and in the hope of mercy from Herr Bittner... I'm biscalar, but tend to 1/48 as my main scale and build a 1/72 kit when the fancy takes me. This fancy being driven by nice kits, tasty subjects, good deals or just plain orneriness. I was *once* exclusively a 1/72 scale fanatic with my WW1 passion, because 15 years ago the shortage of new kits of ANY period was assuaged by wonderful vacform makers, mainly in 1/72. I discovered a whole realm of new WW1 subjects and found (and still believe) that the delicacy of a WW1 aircraft wing in single surface vac can't be beaten. Nevertheless, i can do a better job with limited skill on a bigger model - so Eduard now collects most of my spare cash Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:43:23 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Propagteam D.V D.Va decals Message-ID: Shane, > Has anyone got the sheet AND the instructions AND would be willing to > send me a photocopy (B&W is okay) Yep, what's your fax no., and I'll send you a copy. As I recall, Propag Team put out decals separately.....let me check it out at my local dealer, and I'll get back to ya. Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:04:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Scratchbuilding Message-ID: More from the archives: Jesse writes: >The advantages of scratchbuilding include: >-you can build a model of whatever you want and not rely on kit >manufacturers to produce one for you. No, no no no NO. What you mean is "You can build what you want and THEN rely on kit manufacturers to produce one for everyone else" ;-) Anyone for a Biff? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:29:26 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48 scale Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: <971008012705_57927681@emout17.mail.aol.com> Hi Paul! I just placed the kit on the Datafile drawings. General observation--a little big, but not bad. In detail, the upper wing has a slight twist on the starboard side. Other than that the resin pieces are true. Included are a number of metal and photoetched parts (struts are etched), a decal sheet of crosses and markings ("KI" of Jasta 35), and ample lozenge decals to cover (with tapes). The top wing is about 9" too big in span, 3" too big in chord. The bottom wings are each 3" too big in span and 3" too big in chord. Tailplane and fin/rudder are very close, within a few fileswipes of perfect. The fuselage is correct in length and depth, but the cockpit is a tad too big. The front lines up with the drawing but the rear is 3" too far back. The metal parts look good, and the etched parts are typical of Tom's work--very nice. If you want to be picky, I think the long "false" wing ribs are too prominent at their rear, but nothing a little careful sanding can't handle. I'm happy with mine overall. I hope this helps you a little. FWIW, I have not seen the Tom's Alb. D.Va, but a friend has one and says it is nice and compares well with Datafile drawings (as opposed to the Tom's vac Alb. kits which were a little smallish). I figure for the money, you're better off buying two Eduard D.V/Va kits, but that's just MHO. Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:08:24 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Another FNG and Kit Collection for Sale Message-ID: <19971008.051324.10910.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:11:20 -0400 REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com writes: > Well, there seems to be more and more folks joining the list so > I figure I would hop in too. Welcome to the list! A great group of people, here. > Hope you don't mind another Texan joining in. For the benefit of > the unwary, most members in the US have already adjusted there > BS filters up 10 Db. We won't hold being a Texan against you. At least you're building in the right era! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:06:52 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Contest Message-ID: <19971008.051324.10910.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:54:55 -0400 "Paul Schwartzkopf" writes: > Al's WW1 pages are getting full, and I don't know how much room > he has, and whether he would want to post it there. Since I > built it for a Ft. Crook IPMS contest, maybe I could submit it > to Matt for publishing on their web pages, and help keep it "WW1 > influenced". If you don't want to send it to Al, I would be more than happy to put it on the Ft. Crook site, especially now that we're on GeoCities (our other provider's ISP was charging an arm and a leg for updates). Just let me know. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:32:57 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Yellow-dog decals Message-ID: <199710081132.HAA16507@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Bill C, Bill S & Shane: Thanks for the hint. All things considered, I'll use Shane's idea and hoist a few for you! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:43:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Another Texan Message-ID: <971008074301_-762618678@emout13.mail.aol.com> We Washingtonians had best start proselytizing before the Texans take the lead from us! Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:30:57 +0000 From: "TIM" To: wwi Subject: rosemond model contest Message-ID: <199710081234.IAA01083@pease1.sr.unh.edu> HI all There is a model contest/show this weekend in rosemond CA. just wondering if any list mbr is gonna be there? TIM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:35:32 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Dragon prices Message-ID: <971008083417_57942698@emout06.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys! > I'm picking them up, with or without busts, for about $20.00 each (AUS$). > There is a glut of DVIII there are next to no DVII and there tends to be > only Kempfs DR.1. Sounds like you wouild be getting very good value. I have > hear however that some of the old Dragon kits will be released at a much > lower price in the near future. > > Regards > > Vincent > As I understand it, Dragon is rereleasing the DML kits, starting with the Kempf Dr.I, which I again see in my local shop. The new list price is $20US, as opposed to the old list of $25. I guess Chinese workers get less rice than Hong Kong workers. Oh, no! Don't let me get into it over politics, the Chinese, slave labor, etc. . . . ! IRA Campbell Good news--nice kits are coming back. Bad news--buying them supports a tyrannical economy. Decisions, decisions. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:52:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi Subject: Re: Scratchbuilding Message-ID: >More from the archives: > >Jesse writes: > >>The advantages of scratchbuilding include: > >>-you can build a model of whatever you want and not rely on kit >>manufacturers to produce one for you. > >No, no no no NO. > >What you mean is "You can build what you want and THEN rely on kit >manufacturers to produce one for everyone else" ;-) > >Anyone for a Biff? > >Shane That's why I build in 1/3.1415927 scale. No manaufacturer will touch that one. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi Subject: PRC Modeling and Dragon prices Message-ID: > As I understand it, Dragon is rereleasing the DML kits, starting with the >Kempf Dr.I, which I again see in my local shop. The new list price is $20US, >as opposed to the old list of $25. I guess Chinese workers get less rice >than Hong Kong workers. Oh, no! Don't let me get into it over politics, the >Chinese, slave labor, etc. . . . ! As I understand it, Red Chinese 1/72 scale modelers are being rounded up at People's Republic of China IPMS contests and sent to "re-education camps" where they are taught the political correctness of 1/48th scale (Mao's preferred scale). When they have successfully completed a Dragon 1/48th scale Kempf Dr.I kit they are put on the Dragon production lines folding boxes, packing parts in bags, etc for further re-education and enlightenment. It is only a matter of time before Revell-Monogram NAFTA-tizes itself and relocates to Mexico, you know. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 07:54:53 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: rosemond model contest Message-ID: <343B9EBD.49AC@ricochet.net> TIM wrote: > > HI all > There is a model contest/show this weekend in rosemond CA. > just wondering if any list mbr is gonna be there? > > > TIM Tim, Do you mean the Rosamond just west of Edwards Air Force Base? I lived there for over a year. Figures something would finally happen in the valley of fire after I'd long gone. I did some archaeology/aviation history at Edwards for a time. Interesting stuff; got to dig up Cooper and 112-lb bombs (among other things) at the old Muroc Army Air Corps Bombing & Gunnery Range and do research for Cultural Resources Overview. I guess they'll be holding the contest in the library? Where do you live? Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Eduards 1/48 WWI kits Message-ID: <971008155051_1799852598@emout17.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys Just talked to Eduards North America today. The older kits are discontinued. Good news they just put them on sale. Check out my web site: www.swiftwite.com/rosemonthobby All the kits that are left are on 1/2 price scale !! Get em while you can - they told me they have a limited supply. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:30:50 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Fokker fuse fairings Message-ID: <199710081531_MC2-2341-752E@compuserve.com> Bill & Charles, Just a word of thanks for the advice on the fairings. Looks like they're gonna be varnished ply. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: PRC Modeling and Dragon prices Message-ID: <971008160946_1443815508@emout08.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-08 10:03:31 EDT, you write: > > As I understand it, Dragon is rereleasing the DML kits, starting with the > >Kempf Dr.I, which I again see in my local shop. The new list price is $ > 20US, > >as opposed to the old list of $25. I guess Chinese workers get less rice > >than Hong Kong workers. Oh, no! Don't let me get into it over politics, > the > >Chinese, slave labor, etc. . . . ! > > > As I understand it, Red Chinese 1/72 scale modelers are being rounded up at > People's Republic of China IPMS contests and sent to "re-education camps" > where they are taught the political correctness of 1/48th scale (Mao's > preferred scale). > > When they have successfully completed a Dragon 1/48th scale Kempf Dr.I kit > they are put on the Dragon production lines folding boxes, packing parts in > bags, etc for further re-education and enlightenment. > > It is only a matter of time before Revell-Monogram NAFTA-tizes itself and > relocates to Mexico, you know. > > --Jesse > Good point on the re-education, etc.! As for Revell-Monogram, I hope you are wrong, but AMT/ERTL has already abandoned their American workers in Iowa and gone south to Mexico, land of cheap and exploitable labor. Ross was right: that sucking sound you hear is our jobs going south. My question is: when all the middle class and manufacturing jobs are elsewhere, who do these companies think will be left to buy their products? At some point, they have to go back to being loyal to their workers, rather than shareholders' dividends. FWIW, I wrote to AMT/ERTL and told them how I feel and that I would not buy a Mexican made AMT/ERTL model. They wrote back about some expensive study they did and essentially blew me off. Fine. NO AMT/ERTL kits for me. I would encourage you all to do the same. (I told you not to get me started. . . .) IRA Campbell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Edwards kits Rosemont Message-ID: <971008184545_1932187405@emout13.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys I gotta stop typing so fast. (to many years of glue fumes) My site for the Edwards kits sale is www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby Sorry about that. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:59:35 +0000 From: "TIM" To: wwi Subject: Re: rosemond model contest Message-ID: <199710082302.TAA02806@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Riordan Yep that would be the place! and its at the library also! I live about an hour and a half north of palmdale in the "SECRET CITY" regards TIM ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 702 *********************