WWI Digest 697 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown by Carlos Valdes 2) Re: Pfalzies by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: new guy by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Gotha G V by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: new guy by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: taking over the world by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: Guillow SE5a by KarrArt@aol.com 9) Re:Pfalz A and Thulin by KarrArt@aol.com 10) RE: stirring the waters.... by Joey Valenciano 11) French FMP book by Joey Valenciano 12) Re: French FMP book by Suvoroff@aol.com 13) Re: Pfalzies by lothar@televar.com (mark) 14) Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 15) Re: taking over the world by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 16) Re: taking over the world by Bob Pearson 17) tea and vengeance by KarrArt@aol.com 18) RCHTA Report by "Bill Ciciora" 19) Re: new guy by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: Gotha by "Bill Ciciora" 21) Re: Gotha by KarrArt@aol.com 22) Re: French FMP book by Alberto Rada 23) Contest by mbittner@juno.com 24) Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown by mbittner@juno.com 25) Re: Roll Models Order by mbittner@juno.com 26) Re: Thanks by mbittner@juno.com 27) Re: Pfalz by mbittner@juno.com 28) Re: Thanks by The Shannons 29) Re: taking over the world by mbittner@juno.com 30) Re: tea and vengeance by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 31) Re: taking over the world by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: tea and vengeance by KarrArt@aol.com 33) Re: taking over the world by Bob Pearson 34) Re: RCHTA Report by JP 35) Re: taking over the world by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 13:26:00 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown Message-ID: <34367C28.4ABF@conted.gatech.edu> > Hmmmmmm....speaking of Ed Wood, maybe we should give "Richtofen & Brown" the > Mystery Science Theater treatment, as only true WWI aviation aficionados > could do. Run the movie on a big screen TV, and sit three of the wittiest, > and most knowledgable, members of this list (nominations, anyone?) down in > front to make wisecracks, rude remarks and other suitable comments while the > whole thing is recorded, make copies of the videotape and sell it to the > members on the list. Hey, now ***that's*** something I'd pay $19.95 for! > > MR Good idea! Actually, something similar to this happened last year at the WWI fly-in at Dayton. All day long--on Saturday, I think--"Richtofen and Brown" (in rotation with another flick, I believe) was playing in the museum's theater. A couple of us would go in there and laugh whenever we needed a break . . . Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:57:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Pfalzies Message-ID: <971004155715_1476945401@emout04.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 11:58:43 EDT, mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: << Would you have anything on the Pfalz A series >> Windsock Datafile#16 MS Type L had a few pages devoted to the Pfalz A Types ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:01:07 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: new guy Message-ID: <971004160106_1418028666@emout06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 11:40:41 EDT, mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: << > << Nice Gotha. Do you have any data on non-lozenge finish Gotha G.Vs? I've > got a K&B kit but I don't have $30 for decals. >> > It might be cheaper to convert the kit to a G IV ( I've done it- as > conversions go, it's not as masochistic as it may sound) I've considered it, but was always discouraged at the thought of having to carve/sculpt new engine nacelles. How did you make 'em? >> Sheet plastic boxes, whatever curves present are gentle; a little putty around the wing joints. (it's the 10,000 other little things that'll drive you crazy) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha G V Message-ID: <971004160548_100687355@emout14.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 11:38:15 EDT, mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: << Thanks for the search. I also looked through my datafile, profile and scrapbook and discovered 670/16, which was interpreted by Rimell as having 5-color lozenge. The photo on pg. 20 is at long range, but the wings look very light, whereas lozenge tended to appear neutral to dark. Also found an old Harry Woodman Scale Models article with color notes on the G.V.: "It appears that some of the earlier models were finished in the pale blue scheme...At least two such >> I think you're right- That wings in that picture look pale and very non-lozenge to me. If I were to built the kit again in that scheme , I'd go with overall pale blue Robert P.S. thanks for the good words about my site! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:14:59 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: new guy Message-ID: <971004161457_272270205@emout10.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 11:26:38 EDT, phoward@abilene.com writes: << Since we were talking about the Pfalz that is now at Champlin, I know exactly where the question came from. That machine definitely has a silvery-grayish interior. My money is on the Silbergrau finish used on the exterior on most of the D.IIIs and some early D.XIIs. This is strictly a guess, but since the coating was already available, and it was made to serve as a weatherproof coating for wood, it seems like the logical solution. >> I've seen a few pics of the Australian D XII and it looks like its interior is grey or silver-grey- I don't the accuracy of the current restorations, but just the logic of production seems to point to painted innards for the veneered Pfalzes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:18:20 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown Message-ID: <971004161819_519352574@emout06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 08:34:37 EDT, TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: << The list will corrupt you, and modeling will relax you (sometimes!). ;^) >> I've been on the list for less than 36 hours and in that time I've become a 3-pack-a-day smoker and coffee consumption is up to appox. 25 cups Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:27:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <971004162706_1176531330@emout17.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 08:21:08 EDT, TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: << > so, Happy Trails and now, with my > assistant Pinky, I'm going to do what I do every night- TRY TO TAKE OVER THE > WORLD! > Robert Uh, Robert, would that be the 1/1 real world or a, say, 1/48 model, scratchbuilt on your (large) dining room table? Welcome to the List, and congrats on the wife who not only tolerates, but supports your efforts! My wife is wonderfully tolerant as well, but I don't think she would do a hobby shop run unless I was badly laid up. >> For now, I guess it's just a 1/48 world.A few key words got my wife model-world ready- Zap-a-gap, Aurora, Eduard, Smer.Then a few key phrases:"1/48 good","1/72 like building insects" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Guillow SE5a Message-ID: <971004163849_373527174@emout13.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 04:16:58 EDT, ghackney@iglou.com (Gary Hackney) writes: << This is my first post; I've been reading the list for about a month. I'm building a Guillow's SE5a; first model of any kind I've done in 25 years. Haven't decided if I'll try to fly it or not. Gary Hackney >> I sometimes get a yearning to once again build one of those Guillows (the 18" wingspan series used to be $1.29!). Being covered in wood dust is more pleasant than plastic dust and little sharp chips. robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:48:08 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re:Pfalz A and Thulin Message-ID: <971004164805_2032485257@emout10.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 03:15:57 EDT, lothar@televar.com writes: << Would you have anything on the Pfalz A series? I recently purchased the Eduard Morane L kit with the intention of converting it into a Pfalz A, with Ottoman markings. So far the only photo reference I've got is the one of Muzalim Orhan's mount, flown out of Deraa (Amman) against Lawrence and his Arabs, unfortunately the photo shows mostly Mr. Orhan, and very little of his plane! (leave it to me to once again try a frustratingly obscure subject). So anything you might have on the A (wouldn't necessarily have to be middle-eastern, >> Somewhere in the back of my brain I know an old C&C U.S.A. had something on desert "A" types. It may take a few days to confirm this...... On the general subject of MS parasols and their offspring-The Swedish Thulin belonging to Finland-was the wing originally clear doped or an opaque yellowy-cream similar to the French treatment? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 05:06:24 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: RE: stirring the waters.... Message-ID: <199710042106.FAA15612@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> At 10:02 PM 10/1/97 -0400, you wrote: >Bill, > >(and Joey) > >No imagination indeed ! > >Lets really ask for something unusual > >Linke Hoffman R.I] This is another I've never laid eyes on. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 05:06:33 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: French FMP book Message-ID: <199710042106.FAA15625@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> Hi all, I just recently received the "French Aircraft of the First World War" book. Great book! But there's a problem. My copy is lacking 2 foldout pages, namely: 146A/B Breguet 16 & Caudron G.6 drawings 154A/B Caudron R.4 & Caudron R.11 drawings Any of you owning a copy of the book have the same problem? Who could I contact/email about this problem? I've been to the FMP site on the internet but they don't have an email address anywhere on their site, so I can't contact them directly. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:23:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: French FMP book Message-ID: <971004192324_-1563746346@emout11.mail.aol.com> I have those pages included in my book. For as much as this book costs, I would return it and demand a replacement. Yours, James D. Gray nb- Eduard Albatros D.V nr- The Battle for Burma nl- KIXI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Pfalzies Message-ID: <199710042343.QAA07237@concord.televar.com> Riordan - >I have a copy of the old WWI Aero Publishers Pfalz booklet in which >there are several good photos of the Pfalz A.I/Parasol. Let me know and >I'll send them to you. Yesss! Please do. My snail mail is: Mark Rook PO Box 1121 Wenatchee, WA 98807-1121 BTW, did you ever get the Halberstadt fighters book by Peter Grosz that came out earlier this year? If not, there's some interesting stuff on Ottoman Halby's I can send you in return. Other than that, not much new here on the Turkish front, although I am working on trying to run down a copy of the long out of print "Turk Havacilik Tarahinder" thru their military attache at the embassy in DC. Now **that** would be a coup to pull off! >BTW, I finished the Smer(after nearly ruining it) as a Pasha D.V (which >is what the fuselage most closely resembles) and got a good response at >the local IPMS meetings. Thanks for the suggestion. Right on, bro. Would love to see a photo of it if possible. Next time you could be even more daring and try one in Ottoman markings; that oughta leave 'em both impressed and scratching their heads at the same time.... MR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:48:32 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown Message-ID: <971004194828_337774539@emout09.mail.aol.com> Hi Robert! > I've been on the list for less than 36 hours and in that time I've become a > 3-pack-a-day smoker and coffee consumption is up to appox. 25 cups > Robert > WHEW!! No smoke here, but I go through iced tea by the quart. (And it in turn goes through me!) With all that coffee, no wonder you do larger scales! ;^) Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:55:33 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <971004195515_1890976845@emout11.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 16:28:46 EDT, Robert writes: > For now, I guess it's just a 1/48 world.A few key words got my wife > model-world ready- Zap-a-gap, Aurora, Eduard, Smer.Then a few key > phrases:"1/48 good","1/72 like building insects" > Good job! My wife recognizes words like Eduard, Fokker, and Albatros, but generally she says things like, "Oh, that's nice. . . ". She rarely limits my model acquisitions, so that's okay with me if she is no expert. If she were an expert, why would I need the List? Have Fun!! IRA PS--Sometimes she does point out my Pfalz, however. :^( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 17:06:53 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <00065329965003@KAIEN.COM> Just so long as there is real and no Pfalz pride....... Bob ---------- > From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: taking over the world > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:00:18 -0400 > > In a message dated 97-10-04 16:28:46 EDT, Robert writes: > > > For now, I guess it's just a 1/48 world.A few key words got my wife > > model-world ready- Zap-a-gap, Aurora, Eduard, Smer.Then a few key > > phrases:"1/48 good","1/72 like building insects" > > > Good job! My wife recognizes words like Eduard, Fokker, and Albatros, but > generally she says things like, "Oh, that's nice. . . ". She rarely limits > my model acquisitions, so that's okay with me if she is no expert. If she > were an expert, why would I need the List? > > Have Fun!! > > IRA > > PS--Sometimes she does point out my Pfalz, however. :^( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: tea and vengeance Message-ID: <971004200603_1430324382@emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 19:49:18 EDT, TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: << > I've been on the list for less than 36 hours and in that time I've become a > 3-pack-a-day smoker and coffee consumption is up to appox. 25 cups > Robert > WHEW!! No smoke here, but I go through iced tea by the quart. (And it in turn goes through me!) With all that coffee, no wonder you do larger scales! ;^) Have Fun!! IRA >> Hello IRA The ancient and venerable joke about beer (one doesn't buy it, one merely rents) is equally true about ice tea.In a "serious" shift, those large scale projects of mine are are few-my favorite scale is 1/48. That 1/32 Gotha was specifically aimed for contests where I got tired of seeing huge Phantoms and F-14s loaded down with $300 worth of after-market Verlinden stuff take all the prizes.It worked! (I did scratch a 1/100 Wright Flyer once and my first Gotha long ago was scratched in 1/96- so I can do the small stuff!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:16:56 -0500 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: RCHTA Report Message-ID: Back from hours of walking around the various displays at the RCHTA trade show. Not a whole bunch of WWI content, but enough to whet our appetites. Glencoe had a hastily built test shot of the DH-4. The wings were surprisingly thin! Target for release is February, maybe earlier. They're planning to offer different versions of the DH-4 as well, once the first kit is going. Some aftermarket guns, engine, and interior will turn this into a beauty. A Pfalz D.IIIa kit is in the works too. Nothing new at the Eduard display. Apparently the flooding in eastern Europe has played havoc with delivery. The Bell X-1 looked very nice; I'm looking forward to the new WWI stuff if the X-1 is any indication of how far they've come with their mouldings. Pegasus had a W-29 in Christiansen's markings for the munchkin scalers. Met list member John Huggins at the Squadron display, demonstrating Fast Frames. Always nice to put a face with the user ID. Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:18:59 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: new guy Message-ID: <971004201859_998322082@emout06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 03:15:57 EDT, lothar@televar.com writes: << Would you have anything on the Pfalz A series? I recently purchased the Eduard Morane L kit with the intention of converting it into a Pfalz A, with Ottoman markings. So far the only photo reference I've got is the one of Muzalim Orhan's mount, flown out of Deraa (Amman) against Lawrence and his Arabs, unfortunately the photo shows mostly Mr. Orhan, and very little of his plane! (leave it to me to once again try a frustratingly obscure subject). >> C&C U.S.A.journal vol.11 #3 autumn 1970 page 236 has what appears to be the same photo you mention- but German markings are clearly distinguishable on the Pfalz Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:21:48 -0500 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: Robert recommended: > It might be cheaper to convert the kit to a G IV ( I've done it- as > conversions go, it's not as masochistic as it may sound) What's involved with this conversion? Might make a nice article for the web site (hint, hint). ;-) Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:29:01 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <971004202851_1343247991@emout11.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 20:23:30 EDT, wpc@wwa.com writes: << > It might be cheaper to convert the kit to a G IV ( I've done it- as > conversions go, it's not as masochistic as it may sound) What's involved with this conversion? Might make a nice article for the web site (hint, hint). ;-) Bill Ciciora >> We'll see, won't we! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 21:45:32 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: French FMP book Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971004214532.0071c70c@pop.true.net> Hi My copy has these to pages in SALUDOS ALBERTO At 05:07 PM 04-10-97 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi all, > >I just recently received the "French Aircraft of the First World War" book. > >Great book! But there's a problem. > >My copy is lacking 2 foldout pages, namely: > >146A/B Breguet 16 & Caudron G.6 drawings >154A/B Caudron R.4 & Caudron R.11 drawings > >Any of you owning a copy of the book have the same problem? > >Who could I contact/email about this problem? >I've been to the FMP site on the internet but they don't have an email >address anywhere on their site, so I can't contact them directly. > > >********************************************************************* > >Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, >joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist >tel. (632) 921-26-75 >Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > >********************************************************************* > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:45:39 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Contest Message-ID: <19971004.210327.13646.1.mbittner@juno.com> Well, our contest is over, and I want to congratulate our own Paul Schwartzkopf for taking the Best WW1 Model! His HB D.I was superb - even if it is in the wrong scale. ;-) My only request to Paul: take pictures of it so Al can add it to the web site. Well done, Paul! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:00:04 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Movie: Von Richthofen and Brown Message-ID: <19971004.210327.13646.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:47:58 -0400 "Gary Hackney" writes: > This is my first post; I've been reading the list for about a > month. I'm building a Guillow's SE5a; first model of any kind > I've done in 25 years. Haven't decided if I'll try to fly it or > not. Welcome, Gary! You will find this list helpful, and taxing - especially on the wallet. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:58:58 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Roll Models Order Message-ID: <19971004.210327.13646.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 3 Oct 1997 22:30:25 -0400 Brian Nicklas writes: > Thought I'd pass word on receipt of a Roll Models order. I sent > the order on the 15th of Sept, got a msg back to confirm on the > 17th, and it arrived on October 1st. Invoice inside is dated > the 25th of September. Package in good shape, some stuff I > couldn't find through my usual pushers, er, dealers, um, > vendors. Does every feel that way, "pushers", etc.? Is it just me and Brian? Or am I reading too much into that. Good one Brian. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:01:24 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <19971004.210327.13646.6.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 02:38:44 -0400 KarrArt@aol.com writes: > Well, the "new guy" wishes to thank everyone for a most > enjoyable first day on the list and to those who welcomed me - > thanks especially. I shall sign off for tonight, looking forward > to another harrowing list-day of Fokker controversies and > choleric color arguments- so, Happy Trails and now, with my > assistant Pinky, I'm going to do what I do every night- TRY TO > TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Boy, am I glad I'm not the only one who watches this wonderful, and intellectual show. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:03:07 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Pfalz Message-ID: <19971004.210328.13646.7.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:29:27 -0400 phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) writes: > Since we were talking about the Pfalz that is now at Champlin, I > know exactly where the question came from. That machine > definitely has a silvery-grayish interior. My money is on the > Silbergrau finish used on the exterior on most of the D.IIIs and > some early D.XIIs. This is strictly a guess, but since the > coating was already available, and it was made to serve as a > weatherproof coating for wood, it seems like the logical > solution. I bet when Peter Grosz' tome on the Pfalz machines comes out around Christmas, we'll learn even more! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 21:00:16 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <3436F4B0.3F6B@ix.netcom.com> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > Well, the "new guy" wishes to thank everyone for a most enjoyable first day > on the list and to those who welcomed me - thanks especially. I shall sign > off for tonight, looking forward to another harrowing list-day of Fokker > controversies and choleric color arguments- so, Happy Trails and now, with my > assistant Pinky, I'm going to do what I do every night- TRY TO TAKE OVER THE > WORLD! > Robert -- Are you pondering what I'm pondering? Yeah, Brain, but with the twists and turns, and even with everybody shooting at him, I'm not sure whether you can rule out Roy Brown. (Duck and cover) Welcome to the list. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:19:18 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <19971004.212324.13646.10.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:31:20 -0400 KarrArt@aol.com writes: > For now, I guess it's just a 1/48 world.A few key words got my > wife model-world ready- Zap-a-gap, Aurora, Eduard, Smer.Then a > few key phrases:"1/48 good","1/72 like building insects" No, it's "1/48 for those with no imagination and blind", "1/72nd for god-like beings". Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: tea and vengeance Message-ID: <971004230000_218088655@emout07.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 20:07:36 EDT, you write: > Hello IRA > The ancient and venerable joke about beer (one doesn't buy it, one merely > rents) is equally true about ice tea.In a "serious" shift, those large scale > projects of mine are are few-my favorite scale is 1/48. That 1/32 Gotha was > specifically aimed for contests where I got tired of seeing huge Phantoms > and > F-14s loaded down with $300 worth of after-market Verlinden stuff take all > the prizes.It worked! (I did scratch a 1/100 Wright Flyer once and my first > Gotha long ago was scratched in 1/96- so I can do the small stuff!) > Hi Robert! I would not doubt your abilities to do the small ones. As we know, the larger the model the more the opportunities to model smaller details. I model in anything from 1/72 to 1/24 and would like to do a WWI type in 1/1 some day. As long as we're having fun and not hurting anyone, . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <971004230256_-1628309358@emout03.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 22:16:49 EDT, mbittner@juno.com writes: << > For now, I guess it's just a 1/48 world.A few key words got my > wife model-world ready- Zap-a-gap, Aurora, Eduard, Smer.Then a > few key phrases:"1/48 good","1/72 like building insects" No, it's "1/48 for those with no imagination and blind", "1/72nd for god-like beings". Matt Bittner >> Ah, Mr. Bittner- I've been on the list for a couple of days and I've already heard about you and your odonatic tendencies.Birds often mistake 1/72 models for lunch.There, having written that, all is much better.The WWI 1/48 and 1/72 guys can coexist- it's these damnable "model builders" with their giant Mirages, Phantoms and F14s and their bloody aftermarket parts we must vigilant about."Oooh, what'll do? what'll do?there's no throttle knobs in the kit".These sad people are beyond our pitty.We must put aside our differences and flood the contests with 1/24 Staakens and (yes) 1/72 Zeppelins! (and yes my friend, you are not alone in your enjoyment of the best show on TV) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:08:10 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: tea and vengeance Message-ID: <971004230554_1999017875@emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-10-04 23:01:51 EDT, TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: I model in anything from 1/72 to 1/24 and would like to do a WWI type in 1/1 some day. As long as we're having fun and not hurting anyone, . . . Have Fun!! IRA >> Absolutely! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:21:45 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <04214581965321@KAIEN.COM> Matt and Robert, I have just been sitting back and letting the rest of you carry on, but I must interject at this point as the TICK is (was) the best show on TV. SPOON ! ! ! ! Bob ---------- > and flood the contests with 1/24 Staakens and (yes) 1/72 Zeppelins! > (and yes my friend, you are not alone in your enjoyment of the best show on > TV) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 00:29:08 -0500 From: JP To: wwi Subject: Re: RCHTA Report Message-ID: >Back from hours of walking around the various displays at the RCHTA trade >show. Not a whole bunch of WWI content, but enough to whet our appetites. > Snip > >Pegasus had a W-29 in Christiansen's markings for the munchkin scalers. > The W-29 is a new release from MPM. This kit is simular to the Pegaasus kit, but with all the struts and other parts in injection molded plastic. They also give you the option of either elivator style. The decal sheet is for Christiansen's aircraft. The naval lozenge has two of the colors on it, and the third color will have to be painted on as an undercoat on the wings and fuselage. The guns gan be improved with some of the some of the brass sets. No other info at this time, but the kit should be available in the near future. It was to meed Bill C, along with a couple of other WWI builders who stopped by the booth. I did not get a chance to talk to them, but I did see two other folks walking aroound with our button on. Looks nice and is easy to spot. Now for the bad news (I left my button in Dallas along with a few other items I had intended on bringing) I do have a name tag on and will be in our booth on isle 600 across from the ERTL booth. If any of you are in the area, stop by and say hi. John PS I am using a friends account here in Chi town. I can be reached at my normal address. Some day, I'll build the perfect model, but there has only been one perfect person so far, and even he made a few mistakes. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: taking over the world Message-ID: <971005020957_38102565@emout20.mail.aol.com> Well, the "new guy" is leaving you all till the 'morrow, retiring with a vision of Pinky and the Brain ( and, yes the revered Tick) and all WWI modelers, whatever their prefered scale, walking off together to contemplate what the next round of this ongoing inquisition might bring.And I leave you all with this question: How the heck does one access the mailing list Archives for any date after September 24 #685? That "access forbidden"scares me. Robert ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 697 *********************