WWI Digest 691 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: CMYK Colour Chart by Mark K Nelson 2) Re: CMYK Colour Chart by Bob Pearson 3) Re: CMYK Colour Chart by DavidL1217@aol.com 4) Re: Kit ID-ing, please by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 5) Re: CMYK Colour Chart by Joey Valenciano 6) Re: CMYK Colour Chart by "TIM" 7) Re: Kit ID-ing, please by The Shannons 8) Updated web page by Jim Wallace 9) Nungesser's Fate by Suvoroff@aol.com 10) Re: Dawn Patrol - was Red Baron II by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 11) Re: Dawn Patrol - was Red Baron II by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 12) Plastic factory by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 13) Re: Nungesser's Fate by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 20:17:46 -0700 From: Mark K Nelson To: wwi Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart Message-ID: >Hi all, > >Awhile back, Richard Humberstone gave some of us a CYMK Colour Chart for use >in Adobe Illustrator. Could any kind soul please shoot a copy of this file >to me? I am a PC (not Mac) user. > >Thank you very much. Same please, except I am a Mac (not a PC) user. Thank you _____________________________________________________________________ Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) ------------------------ mnelson@v-wave.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 20:38:10 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart Message-ID: <03381089651411@KAIEN.COM> Mark, I will send along a copy of the file to you. I have added some of the colour names to it as well. Bob ---------- > From: Mark K Nelson > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:22:40 -0400 > > >Hi all, > > > >Awhile back, Richard Humberstone gave some of us a CYMK Colour Chart for use > >in Adobe Illustrator. Could any kind soul please shoot a copy of this file > >to me? I am a PC (not Mac) user. > > > >Thank you very much. > > Same please, except I am a Mac (not a PC) user. > > Thank you > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) > ------------------------ > mnelson@v-wave.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart Message-ID: <970929003733_-1329570543@emout04.mail.aol.com> Bob, I am also Mac disadvantaged. Can you send one this way too? Thanks David Layton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:07:28 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit ID-ing, please Message-ID: <199709290507.AA23487@ednet1.orednet.org> Mark (or Mary) writes: >I have a bit of a mystery kit of the S.E. 5A that I bought at a local >hobby shop as a bagged kit for $6.00. > >First of all, I am convinced that it is based on the Aurora kit, in its >Monogram revision, but there is no logo of either on any of the >materials. The instructions do list a P.O. box 48745, Niles, Ill (sic) >60648 as the source of replacement parts, but the Monogram logo is not >molded on the kit nor does it appear anywhere on the materials. >Instructions are multi-language, with serial number 6950-0200, the >sprues have 5205-00xx numbers, and the very poor decal sheet is >5205-0300 and marked 5/89 on the back. Markings are for the USAAC 19 of >'C' flight, No. 25 Aero Squadron. -snips- 5205 is the kit number used for the initial Monogram re-issue of the old Aurora kit. And, the 25th Aero decals were the decals used for that re-issue. It does sound like you've latched onto some repackaging variation of the Monogram re-issue. While I didn't buy any and don't have one, for a while the Squadron Shop was offering "close out" sales on "bagged" editions of the Monogram WW1 aircraft kits - perhaps your kit is one of those?? The Fokker D.VII and the Sopwith Camel re-issues were, incidently, kit numbers 5203 and 5204 respectively. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." Alexandre Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:19:30 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart Message-ID: <199709291019.SAA21829@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> At 12:42 AM 9/29/97 -0400, you wrote: >Bob, > >I am also Mac disadvantaged. Can you send one this way too? Hey, hey, hey! How 'bout me? Any PC users out there with the file in question? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..... ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 06:41:01 +0000 From: "TIM" To: wwi Subject: Re: CMYK Colour Chart Message-ID: <199709291344.JAA27709@pease1.sr.unh.edu> now that i got Corel Draw me to pls PC user sixpac@iwvisp.com thanks TIM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 09:54:32 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit ID-ing, please Message-ID: <342FC128.50FF@ix.netcom.com> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > Mark (or Mary) writes: > > >I have a bit of a mystery kit of the S.E. 5A that I bought at a local > >hobby shop as a bagged kit for $6.00. > > > >First of all, I am convinced that it is based on the Aurora kit, in its > >Monogram revision, but there is no logo of either on any of the > >materials. The instructions do list a P.O. box 48745, Niles, Ill (sic) > >60648 as the source of replacement parts, but the Monogram logo is not > >molded on the kit nor does it appear anywhere on the materials. > >Instructions are multi-language, with serial number 6950-0200, the > >sprues have 5205-00xx numbers, and the very poor decal sheet is > >5205-0300 and marked 5/89 on the back. Markings are for the USAAC 19 of > >'C' flight, No. 25 Aero Squadron. > > -snips- > > 5205 is the kit number used for the initial Monogram re-issue of > the old Aurora kit. And, the 25th Aero decals were the decals > used for that re-issue. > > It does sound like you've latched onto some repackaging variation > of the Monogram re-issue. While I didn't buy any and don't have > one, for a while the Squadron Shop was offering "close out" sales > on "bagged" editions of the Monogram WW1 aircraft kits - perhaps > your kit is one of those?? > > The Fokker D.VII and the Sopwith Camel re-issues were, incidently, > kit numbers 5203 and 5204 respectively. > > Cheers, > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." > Alexandre Dumas -- I do think we have a winner! Thank you all for your replies. I am puzzled that there was no identification of the manufacturer on the kit, most companies are only too pleased to let you know who done what. Thanks guys -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:50:55 -0400 From: Jim Wallace To: wwi Subject: Updated web page Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.19970929115055.0098eec0@pop.atl.mindspring.com> I've updated my web page with photos of a recently completed Revell D.VII I built for Jack Hunter, author of "The Blue Max." Take a look. http://www.mindspring.com/~jmw3/ Jim W. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:33:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Nungesser's Fate Message-ID: <970929172327_1597427655@emout15.mail.aol.com> A few years ago I heard that a crashed aircraft had been found in Newfoundland that was thought to be Nungesser's, but I never heard anything more. Has anybody heard anything about this? Is there any good source for biographies of the Great French Aces? Stuff on British aces seems easy to find, and of course the Germans as always are covered past the point of repletion, but I am having a hard time with finding stuff on the French. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:30:54 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Dawn Patrol - was Red Baron II Message-ID: <199709292230.SAA29509@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 05:47 AM 9/27/97 -0400, Sandy Adam wrote: in August I saw a games bundle including a WW1 title called >"Dawn Patrol - Head to Head" at a ridiculous price and I succumbed. > >It may be familiar to everybody else, and it is a 1994 game so it is >probably very old hat by now, but it runs perfectly on my Win95 PC and is >absolutely astonishing (to me anyway) in its quality. > >Does everybody else know of this game? Is Red Baron even better? I got the original version that didn't allow head to head play. Not nearly as good as the original RB. The graphics were great, however. Keep in mind, I still run a 486 on windows 3.1...I know, a dinosaur. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:30:55 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Dawn Patrol - was Red Baron II Message-ID: <199709292230.SAA29515@pease1.sr.unh.edu> >James D. Gray wrote > I played about 2000 hours of Red Baron One. You may think that meant I >liked it. I found the great lesson of the war was, fly a SPAD. If the odds >get too bad, you can always split, and nothing German is going to catch you! > The greatest moment of the whole game for me is when I was challenged to >single combat by Lothar Von Richtofen, and he showed up with two of his >buddies! These filthy Huns cannot be trusted! You and me both! I play that game still. Seems to have the easiest to use flight characteristics and the best options. I always thought they had unfairly singled out Lothar until someone else mentioned that Mannock uses the same trick. Hmmm, 2,000 hours and I never got to the pointw where he challenged me. Best I can manage was Nungesser. Anyway, I figure they must be close to done, since the ad was 2 full pages in living color. Must have cost a lot of $$$. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:30:57 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Plastic factory Message-ID: <199709292230.SAA29525@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 06:51 PM 9/28/97 -0400, The Shannons wrote: >I have a bit of a mystery kit of the S.E. 5A that I bought at a local >hobby shop as a bagged kit for $6.00. Ah, sweet memories. I used to live near the factory. We would ride our bikes over there and collect the "seconds" that were thrown out due to inferior quality.(Yes in spite of all our comments, they had some quality control.) Anyway, it pains me to remember all the stuff I once had for free that could be used now. Niles is next to Morton Grove. The factory was located in another suburb, I think Harwood Heights(?). In any event, it sounds like the Lindberg version to me. Now, where do they make those Eduard things......... Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:30:59 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nungesser's Fate Message-ID: <199709292230.SAA29532@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 05:38 PM 9/29/97 -0400, Suvoroff@aol.com wrote: > A few years ago I heard that a crashed aircraft had been found in >Newfoundland that was thought to be Nungesser's, but I never heard anything >more. Has anybody heard anything about this? > Is there any good source for biographies of the Great French Aces? > Stuff on British aces seems easy to find, and of course the Germans as >always are covered past the point of repletion, but I am having a hard time >with finding stuff on the French. Good point. You'd think with all the stuff written there would be some more stuff on the French. The recent book by Franks et al has some good, albeit brief biographies. Air aces of the 1914-1918 War (an old Harleyford book) has some longer bios of the more famous names. If you can't find the Air Aces book, let me know and I'll copy mine re: French aces. As far as Nungesser goes, there is a group lead by a relative of his, Bill(?) Nungesser that has gone out and looked for wreckage. He talked at one of our OTF meetings and I believe they have yet to find anything. On Weekend Edition on NPR last week Clive Cussler, the guy who writes the books about ship salvaging (Raise the Titanic, etc) says he is part of a group still looking for Nungesser's ship, "The White Bird." Mike Muth ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 691 *********************