WWI Digest 671 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Journey Into 1/48 - Part 0 by Don RInker 2) Re: out of the closet survey by Don RInker 3) RE: out of the closet -Reply by David Solosy 4) RE: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 by David Solosy 5) RE: out of the closet survey by "Denest, Michael J" 6) Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 by "David Couvillon" 7) Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 by "David Couvillon" 8) Re: out of the closet by "David Couvillon" 9) Re: out of the closet by "TIM" 10) Re: Journey Into 1/48 - Part 0 by "TIM" 11) Re: out of the closet by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 12) Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 13) by fedders 14) Re: out of the closet by "ROGER BELANGER" 15) Pasha D.V needs tail cross/serials by mgoodwin 16) Re: out of the closet survey by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 17) Re: out of the closet by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 18) Re: out of the closet by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 19) test, don't read by Joey Valenciano 20) Hi, new address by Joey Valenciano 21) Re: Dr-1 seat by Don RInker 22) I'm in despair by Franco Poloni 23) Re: out of the closet by mgoodwin 24) Re: out of the closet by ModelerAl@aol.com 25) this is a test by "ROGER BELANGER" 26) Re: Out of the closet by BStett3770@aol.com 27) Re: Out of the closet by Bob Pearson 28) Re: I'm in despair by Bob Pearson 29) Re: out of the closet by Geoff Smith 30) Re: out of the closet by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:12:55 -0400 From: Don RInker To: wwi Subject: Re: Journey Into 1/48 - Part 0 Message-ID: <341680B7.5AE6@fast.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > Joey Valenciano writes: > > > >BTW, What I did for the seat was to file the back to a sharp edge. I > >sprayed on Humbrol's buffable polished steel then buffed with a Q-tip, > >polishing more "rubbed" areas (where the ass goes). > > Wasn't the bottom of the seat (where the ass goes) made of _plywood_ > on the Dr.I?? Yes, the seat bottom is plywood. The main shell is aluminum in the shape shown on most medel seats. It does have a rolled edge around the perimeter. Also the two existing Dr-1 seats also show fabric applied to the interior with either glue or dope. The seat interior of MVR's 425/17 was doped red. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:16:18 -0400 From: Don RInker To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet survey Message-ID: <34168182.363A@fast.net> Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > > I'm promiscuous, I have kits in 1/144, 1/72nd, 1/48th, and 1/28th. What about us guys who messa round with 1/4 ( 3"=1') or 1/6 ( 1 1/2" = 1') models or occasionally the 1" = 1" models... ? :-) I gues we're just plane nutty.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:38:40 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: out of the closet -Reply Message-ID: <01BCBE23.9535E000@user11.argo.net.au> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCBE23.9546A8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am biscale I'm afraid (or happy) to say. 1/48 leaves no margin for = error, while in 1/72 some things (e.g. some cockpit details, = turnbuckles, ) can be 'fudged". Also, when productivity is an issue 1/72 = projects seem to be quicker. When display space is at a premium 1/72 = wins. Also it's usually cheaper to buy 1/72 kits. 1/48 on the other hand = is a 'nice' scale for detailing and impact. My two cents worth David S -----Original Message----- From: Peter Mitchell [SMTP:PeterM3@nch.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: out of the closet -Reply I must confess I'm also biscale. Usually I will buy a subject (most often german types) in 1/48 and use the information in the kit details (aswell as datafile refernces) to go = and do a detail job on 1/72. Often I will photocopy the photoetch parts down to the apropriate scale and use them either as the paper cut out or as templates for scratch details on the 1/72 kit. I love the detail of 1/48 but I really love the fact that six 1/72 = Fokker DrI will fit on an A4 page. 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Straighten it = by "rolling" under a steel ruler and then paint it by running through a = rag with dark grey or gunmetal paint. It can be superglued in place and = is delighfully thin. I've also used surgical steel wire which you can = get at some hobby shops. 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My preferences are 1/6 (2" = 1'), 1/5 (2.5" = 1'), 1/4 (3" = 1'). If it's gonna be bigger than that, I'll build it so I can ride in it (12" = 1')! Mike Denest Rapid Prototyping Center Building 3-29 M/S P38-01 Boeing ISDS Rotorcraft PO Box 16858 Philadelphia, PA 19142 Phone 1-610-591-4681 Fax 1-610-591-4444 e-mail to: michael.denest@PHL.boeing.com >---------- >From: Don RInker[SMTP:drinker@fast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:19 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: out of the closet survey > >Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: >> >> > I'm promiscuous, I have kits in 1/144, 1/72nd, 1/48th, and 1/28th. > >What about us guys who messa round with 1/4 ( 3"=1') or 1/6 ( 1 1/2" = >1') models >or occasionally the 1" = 1" models... ? :-) > >I gues we're just plane nutty.... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:31:02 +0000 From: "David Couvillon" To: wwi Subject: Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 Message-ID: <199709101225.MAA12475@scosysv> > David, I have not tried it myself yet, but others on the list have. > You can use clear monofilament fishing line, such as the thicknesses > used for fly-fishing leaders, for rigging. Cut and attach it using super > glue, and then carefully apply a heat source to "snap" it in place. > It can be painted after assembly is completed, but I think when I > give it a try, I will leave it unpainted. > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf Heat source? Sun; match/candle; hair dryer; blow torch? David Couvillon Major of Marines, Righter of Wrongs, Wrong most of the time, Lover extrordinaire, Chef de Hot Dog Excellance, Collector of Hot Sauce, Avoider of Yard Work Check out my homepage at http:\\www.cust.iamerica.net\captcouv\ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:31:01 +0000 From: "David Couvillon" To: wwi Subject: Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 Message-ID: <199709101225.MAA12477@scosysv> > > I for one Herr Maior- use invisible thread- a plasticsh thread found at > most sewing stores- drill little holes and just sew the blessed thingie up > like in real life- > > Cheers- Gerry I pray you're not a doctor... David Couvillon Major of Marines, Righter of Wrongs, Wrong most of the time, Lover extrordinaire, Chef de Hot Dog Excellance, Collector of Hot Sauce, Avoider of Yard Work Check out my homepage at http:\\www.cust.iamerica.net\captcouv\ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:39:33 +0000 From: "David Couvillon" To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709101233.MAA12543@scosysv> > > I just thought that I'd conduct an unofficial and very unscientific survey. > I now openly admit that I have been known to buy and occasionally even > build kits in 1/72 and 1/48 scale. I am curious as to how many members of > the list limit themselves to just one scale and how many, like me, are > biscale? > > Tim in Minnesota 1/72nd monogamous. David Couvillon Major of Marines, Righter of Wrongs, Wrong most of the time, Lover extrordinaire, Chef de Hot Dog Excellance, Collector of Hot Sauce, Avoider of Yard Work Check out my homepage at http:\\www.cust.iamerica.net\captcouv\ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:30:47 +0000 From: "TIM" To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709101243.IAA18634@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I for one am not loyal to any scale i build what suiits me at the time if i want a mjor project with mind boggling detail 1/32,1/28 is the way to go although i can pull off the same stunts with 1/48. If i want a small compact clean looking model 1/72 is the way and for all of you out there that can pack oodles of detail into a cockpit the size of the end of a pencil I bow to you and suceed you are far better than me but i truly prefer the larger scales because of the difference of truly accurately producing detail versus a good representation. dont get me wrong 1/72 is truly a beuty to behold but lets face it folks so are the rest and modeling is modeling and isnt that what we are here to discuss and share not bicker over scale. to me it seems each and every one of use is in our own way truing to help preserve the Great War for our decendents to remember and be able to see lets do that shall we! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:38:04 +0000 From: "TIM" To: wwi Subject: Re: Journey Into 1/48 - Part 0 Message-ID: <199709101249.IAA18701@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Was that fabric doped red? or the seat bottom doped red? TIM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:57:51 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709101253.HAA07861@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> I build in both 72nd and 48th scales, and even have a Hobbycraft 32nd scale Camel started (somewhere on my bench). I have no preference to scale, but buy kits just for the subject matter. (I also build just about all other types of plastic kits on the market.) It is not important to me what scale we build in, and the ribbing we take on this list is all in good fun. The important thing is to enjoy, and by creating a market demand for WW1 subjects, we are *finally* getting the attention of model manufacturers. I would love to see the number of entries in the WW1 category at an IPMS National rival those in the 48th scale single engine category!!! Paul A. Schwartzkopf =================================================================== Development Engineer--Software Transcrypt International, Inc. Telephone: (402) 474-4800 E-Mail: pauls@transcrypt.com =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:02:14 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Journey Into 1/48 Part 1 Message-ID: <199709101258.HAA07888@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> David asks: > Heat source? Sun; match/candle; hair dryer; blow torch? I use book matches. I light one, and after the head "flares down", I blow it out and just run the hot match head close to the rigging. The time-tested method of trial-and-error will have to be your guideline. Expect some practice time, and possibly re-application of some of the rigging. Paul A. Schwartzkopf =================================================================== Development Engineer--Software Transcrypt International, Inc. Telephone: (402) 474-4800 E-Mail: pauls@transcrypt.com =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:30:27 -0500 From: fedders Message-ID: <9709101330.AA21305@saladin.wustl.edu> I almost always build 1/48 although I did built a 1/16 and a 1/8 Fokker DVII. You can do great detail in the larger scales but they take a long time peter fedders ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:21:28 -0400 From: "ROGER BELANGER" To: Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709101521.LAA14909@ime.net> after building all kinds of kits in all scales I find that I do not want to pare With the finished product , so I have a celler full of models and if I am to build more I either have to get rid of some or go to a smaller scale , I have done this with ships and I now only build in !/16 or smaller , this goes for planes too like the challenge of trying to get as much detail a possible on a 1/72nd model , and you can really see it if you are interested in looking, they are very exciting Roger Belonged ---------- > From: Jure Dolanec > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: out of the closet > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 5:19 AM > > Hi, > > I am mono-scale (1/72), perhaps because I have just recently began > modeling again. But I have to say that I made quite a large Fokker Dr.I > some 20 years ago. I am not sure about the scale -- the unfortunate > plane didn't survive my son's first "modeling attempts". > > Um ... is it bad to be mono-scale? :) > > > Jure Dolanec > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:22:48 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Pasha D.V needs tail cross/serials Message-ID: <3416BB48.76FF@ricochet.net> Mark, et al, That's right, I'm just about finished with the Smer Albatros. I decided to go with the shape of the fuselage which more closely resembles a D.V (than a D.III), and the twin wing radiators, which make it a 'trop'. Removed the decal locations, cockpit padding, extra fuselage louvers & flipper-like fin/rudder (scratched new ones), reshaped engine & manifold. Used solder and brass wire for radiator plumbing and wire insulation for cockpit padding. Only problems were slightly inaccurate angle of incidence & alignment to wings due to attempt at adjustment by shortening struts & warped upper wing. Used the kit parts as much as I could stand, but had to borrow Spandaus from Glencoe Pfalz. Finished the wood fuselage in base of Testors tan and overcoat of Testors brown mixed with spar varnish. The wife said, "If that airplane is supposed to look like wood, it does." Remainder of finish is speculative, based on photo of Leutnant Victor Hafner's D.V (5350/17) of Fliegerabteilung 304 in C&C article "Last Days of the Ottoman Air Force" I used RLM 02 gray on the cowling/access panels and RLM 02/dk green for the flying surfaces camoflage. The Smer kit is not 100% accurate, but with a little help it conveys a good impression of an Albatros, and for five bucks you really can't complain. Anyone have any spare fin/rudder crosses & serial #s or suggestions? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:33:49 -0500 (CDT) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet survey Message-ID: <9709101533.AA14381@deimos.tx.iex.com> Don wrote: > > What about us guys who messa round with 1/4 ( 3"=1') or 1/6 ( 1 1/2" = > 1') models > or occasionally the 1" = 1" models... ? :-) > > I gues we're just plane nutty.... > Hey! I think I resemble that remark!! Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:58:06 -0400 (EDT) From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <970910115636_574121290@emout07.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys! While I have no use for 1/144, I am a "scale slut" and will build anything from 1/72 to 1/24. I'm really bad, in that my HO RR client wants me to build him the 1/8 SE5a kit--I'll do it. (Does anyone have a "spare" SE5a kit sitting around gathering dust? My client would like to have it. Please let me know.) It's a challenge to detail a 1/72 (fun, too!), but I build them mostly for the colors and camouflage. I like to go full out on 1/48 and larger. Does anyone on the List actually build 1/1 WWI aeroplanes? I am hoping to one day and would like to compare notes and learn from another's experience. Have Fun!! IRA Campbell (I gotta get one of those quote thingies. How about "It all goes to show that there are more horse's asses than there are horses"? My dad said that--a lot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:10:55 -0500 (CDT) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <9709101610.AA15586@deimos.tx.iex.com> > from 1/72 to 1/24. I'm really bad, in that my HO RR client wants me to > build him the 1/8 SE5a kit--I'll do it. (Does anyone have a "spare" SE5a kit > sitting around gathering dust? My client would like to have it. Please let > me know.) 1/8?? Or do you mean 1/87? Closest I could get you in a kit is the Flair 1/6 or if you can track down an old Top Flight kit. Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:28:28 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: test, don't read Message-ID: <199709101628.AAA03696@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> test ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:42:48 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Hi, new address Message-ID: <199709101642.AAA05239@fiesta.philonline.com.ph> Hi guys, Just testing a new email address I've used to subscribe to the list. Seems like everything's in order. Anyone who has stored my old email address can use this one instead ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:42:15 -0400 From: Don RInker To: wwi Subject: Re: Dr-1 seat Message-ID: <3416CDE7.5615@fast.net> TIM wrote: > > Was that fabric doped red? or the seat bottom doped red? > TIM The Aluminum/fabric/wood seat I was reffereing to is in the Aus. War Museum ( could be Canada also??)as I recall. I even think there is a photo of it in the old Harlyford Red Baron Book. When the late Wally batter ( of WW1 Aero fame) and I were comparing research notes, he got to view and measure the seat. As I recall, without going into my archives, is that the seat where the fabric was bonded on was red, the seat bootom (wood) was just lacquered. There's also evidence that some Dr-1's had a seat pad in them. THe MVR seat was a simple shell but did have several unidendified holes drilled in the back and sides. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:49:30 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: I'm in despair Message-ID: <199709080449.EAA29666@lo.itline.it> Hi guys yes, I did a mortal sin for a wwi modeller: I have lost a friend's old windsock issue. I think that he will never call me "friend" anymore. the issue was the "special seaplane issue", don't remember either the volume nor the issue, and I need to find a copy (not photocopies), somewhere, at all costs! So please, if anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it. Maybe someone have a double, or can get rid of that issue, I'll be grateful. As I said above,*at all costs* Hoping and praying Thanks Franco ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:39:16 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <3416E954.26C4@ricochet.net> ROGER BELANGER wrote: > > after building all kinds of kits in all scales I find that I do not want to > pare With the finished product , so I have a celler full of models and if I > am to build more I either have to get rid of some or go to a smaller scale > , I have done this with ships and I now only build in !/16 or smaller , > this goes for planes too like the challenge of trying to get as much > detail a possible on a 1/72nd model , and you can really see it if you are > interested in looking, they are very exciting Roger Belonged > > ---------- > > From: Jure Dolanec > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: out of the closet > > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 5:19 AM > > > > Hi, > > > > I am mono-scale (1/72), perhaps because I have just recently began > > modeling again. But I have to say that I made quite a large Fokker Dr.I > > some 20 years ago. I am not sure about the scale -- the unfortunate > > plane didn't survive my son's first "modeling attempts". > > > > Um ... is it bad to be mono-scale? :) > > > > > > Jure Dolanec > > Jure et Modeleurs, I find that attrition at the front line of display, storage or moving (i.e., models being damaged or destroyed due to 'natural causees', such as my own lack of forethought, clumsiness or my wife's friends trapesing through) effectively and unfortunately simulates wartime losses, therefore I've never been pressed for space. As for scales, I've got many cracking Blue Rider 'off-topic' decal sheets in 1/72, which has been until recently less expensive than larger scales, but I can't get past the impact and problematic diminuative construction techniques issues; as Dirty Harry once said, "A man's got to know his limitations". As Eduard continues to produce excellent kits at reasonable prices and I've yet to diddle all the old Aurora and Hawk molds, I'll end up a staunch balloon scale advocate. Wish Blue Max kits were a bit cheaper. My 2 sesterces (sp?) worth Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: ModelerAl@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <970910155930_-1533951612@emout01.mail.aol.com> <> I'll build 'em in *any* scale, so long as they're U.S. subjects. Does that make me "omniscale"? Or just crazy? Al ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:33:59 -0400 From: "ROGER BELANGER" To: Subject: this is a test Message-ID: <199709102033.QAA07927@ime.net> testing A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Out of the closet Message-ID: <970910164601_893525055@emout14.mail.aol.com> I'm a mono 1/72 only, or at least till the eyes go. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:06:07 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Out of the closet Message-ID: <22060722911699@KAIEN.COM> I recall being able to paint Airfix HO/OO figures without aid twenty years ago - now I can't even see them without my specs. Bob ---------- > From: BStett3770@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Out of the closet > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:51:18 -0400 > > > > I'm a mono > > 1/72 only, or at least till the eyes go. > > > Keep Modeling > Barry > Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:07:26 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: I'm in despair Message-ID: <22072663411702@KAIEN.COM> Franco, Sorry I can't help out beyond stating that the relevant issue of Windsock is 5/2. Good luck in your search. Bob ---------- > From: Franco Poloni > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: I'm in despair > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:14:19 -0400 > > Hi guys > yes, I did a mortal sin for a wwi modeller: > I have lost a friend's old windsock issue. > I think that he will never call me "friend" anymore. > the issue was the "special seaplane issue", don't remember either the volume > nor the issue, and I need to find a copy (not photocopies), somewhere, at > all costs! > So please, if anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it. > Maybe someone have a double, or can get rid of that issue, I'll be grateful. > As I said above,*at all costs* > Hoping and praying > Thanks > > > Franco > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:03:41 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709101803_MC2-1FE4-8CBE@compuserve.com> >I'll build 'em in *any* scale, so long as they're U.S. subjects. Does >that make me "omniscale"? Or just crazy? >Al I think you bi-scale/omni-scale perverts are letting the hobby get out of= proportion. Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:00:20 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: out of the closet Message-ID: <199709102300.TAA22178@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 09:47 PM 9/9/97 -0400, Crofoot wrote: > >I just thought that I'd conduct an unofficial and very unscientific survey. > I now openly admit that I have been known to buy and occasionally even >build kits in 1/72 and 1/48 scale. I am curious as to how many members of >the list limit themselves to just one scale and how many, like me, are >biscale? Like most (it seems) I build both 1/72 and 1/48(or 'pert near to that scale as in SMER kits). The damn shelves I put them on keep crashing, so attrition is making room for new entries, the only problem is that I don't seem to be making them as quickly as I used to...creeping a.m.s.???? Mike Muth ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 671 *********************