WWI Digest 666 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Albatros C.III 766/16 by The Shannons 2) Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 3) Flying Machines Press Books by BStett3770@aol.com 4) XtracolorPaint List by Vincent Price 5) Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 6) Aurora/Glencoe DH4 by mgoodwin 7) Re: Flying Machines Press Books by mgoodwin 8) Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . by "Rob " 9) Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 09:38:08 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros C.III 766/16 Message-ID: <34101950.67E7@ix.netcom.com> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Thanks to the generosity of Over The Front, those of you who don't subscribe > can see my profiles of the Bohme/Lademacher dragon & crocodile marked > Alabtros C.III on the Images website at > > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Pearson/ > > Regards > > Bob Pearson -- Bob, You are a true gentleman and, it goes without saying, a scholar. I had been building the Eduard C.III when the warning came that there was something a little different about the markings coming. I couldn't get an "Over the Front" subscription in time (or at the time), and I put the project on hold while I thunk on what to do. (Big hardship, my backlog will only keep me busy for the next fifteen years.) Now I can get on with my life, you have saved me. (This is a true, unpaid testimonial from a satisfied customer -- not that I wouldn't mind a few dollars for it.) -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:52:05 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . Message-ID: <199709051748.MAA29539@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Thanks to the responses. I just talked with a friend who informed me that the struts were wrapped with fabric, similar to an athelete wrapping an ankle, in order to provide better strength. This would then agree with the already suggested method of fabric wrapping. Bill stated that the photos would indicate the early production runs had "gray" struts, plus an indication that the later runs had a weight reduction. Would it be correct to hypothesize that the early examples had heavier, painted struts, while the later (and lighter) ones had smaller struts wrapped in fabric to make up for the loss of strength? This sort of makes sense to me. Too bad they didn't keep better records back then. True, I do have a case of AMS, but I still like to keep things accurate whenever I can. Thanks again for the time you guys spent looking this up in your references (maybe I should layoff buying computer books for work and buy more hobby books for me, huh). I should be able to get this project back on track this weekend. Paul A. Schwartzkopf =================================================================== Development Engineer--Software Transcrypt International, Inc. Telephone: (402) 474-4800 E-Mail: pauls@transcrypt.com =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:45:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Flying Machines Press Books Message-ID: <970905194434_419153966@emout06.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys Sale on the following Books Today ( Oct 5th) thru Oct 12th The Imperial Russian Airservice List Price $79.95 Sale $ 63.95 High in the Empty Blue History of the 56th Sqd. RFC/RAF List $49.95 Sale $33.95 Bookrate post $3.00 each for USA customers Overseas post at cost. All orders must be made by Oct. 12th Books will be sent to customers about Oct. 17th. Any one interested please E-mail me off list at: bstett3770@aol.com Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 12:05:27 +1000 From: Vincent Price To: wwi Subject: XtracolorPaint List Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970906120527.00721328@mailhost.world.net> Found this very useful list at this site: http://www2.ebtech.net/~lomax/xtracolr.html regards Vincent Price ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 22:42:36 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . Message-ID: <199709060242.WAA05690@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 01:45 PM 9/5/97 -0400, Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: Major deletions > (maybe I should layoff buying computer books for work >and buy more hobby books for me, huh). I should be able to get this project >back on track this weekend. Paul Took you long enough to figure out where you should be spending the $$$$$ ;-} Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 21:05:48 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Aurora/Glencoe DH4 Message-ID: <3410D69C.B70@ricochet.net> Any rumors? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 21:08:10 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Flying Machines Press Books Message-ID: <3410D72A.4102@ricochet.net> BStett3770@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Guys > > Sale on the following Books > Today ( Oct 5th) thru Oct 12th > > The Imperial Russian Airservice > List Price $79.95 Sale $ 63.95 > > High in the Empty Blue > History of the 56th Sqd. RFC/RAF > List $49.95 Sale $33.95 > > Bookrate post $3.00 each for USA customers > Overseas post at cost. > > All orders must be made by Oct. 12th > Books will be sent to customers about Oct. 17th. > > Any one interested please E-mail me off list at: > > bstett3770@aol.com > > Keep Modeling > Barry > Rosemont Hobby Barry, Is there sales tax on orders? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 23:15:06 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . Message-ID: <199709060522.BAA16852@marconi.concentric.net> > Bill stated that the photos would indicate the early production runs > had "gray" struts, plus an indication that the later runs had a > weight reduction. Would it be correct to hypothesize that the early > examples had heavier, painted struts, while the later (and lighter) > ones had smaller struts wrapped in fabric to make up for the loss of > strength? This sort of makes sense to me. I doubt it. How do you tell the difference between "grey" and "tan" in a B/W photo? The fabric was meant to protect the wood from splintering and coming apart after a bullet hit. I don't think it would greatly strengthen an undersized part. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 22:50:33 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: And Yet Another H-B D.I Question . . . Message-ID: <199709060550.AA10848@ednet1.orednet.org> > >> Bill stated that the photos would indicate the early production runs >> had "gray" struts, plus an indication that the later runs had a >> weight reduction. Would it be correct to hypothesize that the early >> examples had heavier, painted struts, while the later (and lighter) >> ones had smaller struts wrapped in fabric to make up for the loss of >> strength? This sort of makes sense to me. >I doubt it. How do you tell the difference between "grey" and "tan" >in a B/W photo? Well, the distinction is quite apparent in the photos to me - although I'm making no claims as to _what_ the actual colors were - just that the early production run aircraft have uniformly "light" colored struts while the later production run aircraft have "darker" struts but with "light" colored metal fittings. >The fabric was meant to protect the wood from >splintering and coming apart after a bullet hit. I don't think it >would greatly strengthen an undersized part. I would tend to agree that it wouldn't make much difference in strength although the bullet splintering idea makes some sense. Still, I can't detect any trace of a fabric wrapping in the photos although, admitted, the photos are not of the highest quality. I suppose if the fabric were tightly wrapped and well doped down, it might well not show. So, who knows. Still, there _is_ a distinct difference in appearance in the struts between the early and late production runs - at least with the Brandenburg-built aircraft. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Listen - strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!" ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 666 *********************