WWI Digest 646 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) LVG C.VI colors by mgoodwin 2) LVG E.VI by mgoodwin 3) Re: LVG E.VI by Bill Bacon 4) Re: Mixed Crosses on NASM Albatros? by DavidL1217@aol.com 5) Re: Lozenge by gregrydquist@juno.com (Gregory N Rydquist) 6) Vickers Guns for mid war stuff. by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 7) WWI Books by BStett3770@aol.com 8) Re: LVG E.VI by mgoodwin 9) RE: Lozenge-mania! by David Solosy 10) Re: Lozenge by thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) 11) Newbie by Jure Dolanec ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:19:53 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: LVG C.VI colors Message-ID: <33F5B709.450A@ricochet.net> I recently picked up the Phoebus FIGHTERS OF WORLD WAR ONE book for a song. It is indeed "packed with colour", and among the color illustrations is an LVG C.VI in green/mauve. Is this an accurate scheme? Cheers, Riordan P.S. Anyone read the Boelcke bio, "Knight of Germany"? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:44:02 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: LVG E.VI Message-ID: <33F5BCB2.3FDD@ricochet.net> Anyone have drawings (3-Vs) of this interesting two-seater? Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:59:11 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG E.VI Message-ID: <33F5DC5F.B5B5E623@netjava.net> Riordan, I have the Harleyford drawings in 1/72. Say the word and I will have them on the way next week. Cheers, Bill B. mgoodwin wrote: > Anyone have drawings (3-Vs) of this interesting two-seater? > > Cheers, > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 14:07:08 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Mixed Crosses on NASM Albatros? Message-ID: <970816140707_-1938045023@emout04.mail.aol.com> The NASM Albatros was refinished in the 1930's as part of a WPA project. It was here that the crosses were changed. Why? Who knows. In the last restoration Karl Schneide painted the balken crosses on without clearing it. In fact, the style of cross looked more at home on an FW 190 than the DVa. Perhaps they were politicizing the Albatros linking the Luftstreikrafte to the Luftwaffe. Hopefully, this will get straightened out by the new managment. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 16:34:16 EDT From: gregrydquist@juno.com (Gregory N Rydquist) To: wwi Cc: wwi Subject: Re: Lozenge Message-ID: <19970816.123925.2263.1.GregRydquist@juno.com> I agree, In fact some of my favorite ties almost look like lozenge pattern as it is. I would buy one of each. what scale? If 1/48 then I could cut up the tie and skin a plane Greg On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:00:13 -0400 Brian Nicklas writes: >I've been talking with our Museum Shop people about lozenge pattern >neckties. I thought it was eye-catching enough to be "art" to those >unfamiliar, and "cool" for those of us who know the real purpose... >Brian Nicklas >NASM Archives > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:54:07 -0500 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: "post wwi" Subject: Vickers Guns for mid war stuff. Message-ID: <19970816205405.AAA15847@default> Hey guys, Does anyone have a source for the mid war style Vickers guns in 1/48. None of the manufacturers that I've come across do the guns with the correct vent configuration for the ones on the Sopwith Triplanes and Pup. The style of the cooling jacket in all of the period photos I've seen only have cooling vents on the rear of the jacket. Both of Triplane kits and the Pup from Eduard have the guns with vents front and rear. Any suggestions for a source for the correct syle would be greatly appreciated. I started this Triplane project to be a vacation from the more difficult stuff I'd been working on, so I really would prefer to buy something rather than scratchbuild a set of masters... Cheers, Probably wishful thinking Paul H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 20:47:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: WWI Books Message-ID: <970816204741_654833370@emout14.mail.aol.com> Hi Gang Both books sold. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:18:01 -0700 From: mgoodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG E.VI Message-ID: <33F68989.98C@ricochet.net> Bill Bacon wrote: > > Riordan, > > I have the Harleyford drawings in 1/72. Say the word and I will have > them on the way next week. > > Cheers, > > Bill B. > > mgoodwin wrote: > > > Anyone have drawings (3-Vs) of this interesting two-seater? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Riordan Bill, The Harleyford book is in my local library, but thanks anyhow. Ciao, ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 14:11:32 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Lozenge-mania! Message-ID: <01BCAB13.22712520@user15.argo.net.au> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCAB13.2281EE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick, this guy's name wasn't Timm was it? Did he have a German accent? ;-) David S -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Padovan [SMTP:ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 1997 6:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Lozenge-mania! Greetings: wow, what a great idea! I like the lozenge fabric curtains, but I LOVE the t-shirt idea! How about bed sheets, while we're at it? BTW, since it's Friday afternoon, and since there was recently a discussion of Voss's tripe colors on this list: I met a guy at a local hobby shop recently, who began talking to me about WWI a/c. He had several interesting opinions. He insisted that Revel had originally released their 1/28 Fok.DVII kit back in the sixties, and that they had also had a Spad, a Nieuport, and an SE5 in this range. I suggested that he was misremembering, getting the 1/28 scale kits confused with Revel's 1/72 range of wwi kits, but he was adamant. He also told me that he had hand painted the lozenge pattern on his 1/28 Fokker Dr1 kit. When I inquired as to why he had done that, he asked if I'd ever heard of Werner Voss. When I replied that I had, he suggested that I visit the library and look up Voss's triplane. According to him, the craft had lozenge covered wings and a golden fuselage! Interesting scheme, isn't it? He was rather insistant about this, but he seemed like a nice guy otherwise. To each their own! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Jesse Thorn wrote: > >Is there any way to obtain / make a sufficient quantity of Lozenge Fabric for > >curtains? I mean, of course, within the realm of economic feasibility. 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Ditto!!! Thayer -- Thayer Syme Model Aviation Homepage San Francisco http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 12:08:49 +0100 From: Jure Dolanec To: wwi Subject: Newbie Message-ID: Hi, Being new to the list, I'd first like to say hello to you all. :) I am just re-discovering the joys of modelling after almost 20 years. The "Blue Max" game got my creative juices flowing and I am trying to build a 3-D scenery for the game. I would appreciate any comments about it. Is such a thing feasible? Two problems come to mind: how to make a hex grid over the terrain and how to stand the models over slopes? I'd hate to ask too many silly questions. You have probably seen too much of them, so could somebody please point me to a FAQ about aircraft modelling or something? Like how to apply them lozenge decals to the wings of a 1/72 Fokker D VII so that they stay there? It is driving me nuts. And I have to paint them, too. Thanks, Jure Dolanec ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 646 *********************