WWI Digest 617 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gotha by B-A-L 2) Re: Meikraft Spad XIII by "David Solosy" 3) PD Decals by Carlos Valdes 4) Re: PD Decals by "David Solosy" 5) Re: Nationals impressions by GRBroman@aol.com 6) Re: More than a little help, please -- Albatri and Pfalz by The Shannons 7) Re: Gotha by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 8) Re: Gotha by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 9) Nationals - 1/72nd scratchbuilts by mbittner@juno.com 10) Re: Meikraft Spad XIII by mbittner@juno.com 11) Re: Nationals impressions by mbittner@juno.com 12) Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions by mbittner@juno.com 13) Re: Nationals impressions by mbittner@juno.com 14) Pfalz Booklet (formerly Re: Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions) by Bob Pearson 15) RE: Nationals impressions by Shane Weier 16) Re: Pfalz Booklet (formerly Re: Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions) by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 17) Re: Pfalz Booklet by Bob Pearson 18) Re: Gotha by B-A-L 19) Re: Meikraft Spad XIII by rjray@uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) 20) RE: Gotha by Shane Weier 21) Re: Nationals impressions by mbittner@juno.com 22) Roland C.II by Alberto Rada 23) OTF Freebie by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 24) Resin Stability by Shane Weier 25) Re: Gotha by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 26) Re: Resin Stability by "Robert Woodbury" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:27:53 +1000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <33D1A1D9.7352@eis.net.au> Dear Riodan Thanks for the offer ! If you have any drawings or photographs that show the lower wing union with the fuselage I'd be grateful - The Windsock material isn't that clear in this area. Also the exact shape of the fuselage at the lower wing union is a bit " ambiguous " in the Windsock drawings ( bottom line of the fuselage straight or curved ?? ) and the Photos don't make the precise configuration quite clear either - Could you help there ? A couple of clear and clean happy snaps of both sides of the engine ( uncowled ) would be great too. Can you give any guidance on the colours of the engine and associated fitting spark plug leads Etc... ) There's also a mention of there being a metal walkway betweeen the engine and the fuselage ( is that both sides ? ) and have you a photo or drawing ( sketch ) to show what these looked like ? The other request is for any really " different " or spectacular colour schemes - Having gone to a whole lot of trouble with the detail work I'd love to get either the IV or V ( Va) in something a bit special Thanks and look forward to your reply DAVID R.L. LAWS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:23:49 +0800 From: "David Solosy" To: Subject: Re: Meikraft Spad XIII Message-ID: 12313567900362@argo.net.au IRA Campbell asked: >Does anyone know if the PD decals > are still available? (I just traded for a Meikraft SPAD myself. . . ) > > Have Fun!! > > IRA Campbell Conicidentally I have just written to PD in Melbourne asking what they still have left and if they could send me a list. That was only a few days ago. I have seen only a few sets of their WW1 decals in local hobby shops here in Western Australia. One of them was for Spads as I recall, although US markings not French. As soon as I have any more info I'll let the list know. Cheers David S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 00:38:06 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: PD Decals Message-ID: <33BC7E2E.6CA2@conted.gatech.edu> I don't know if this is correct, but I have seen comments somewhere on the Net to the effect that PD is no longer in business. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 22:05:57 +0800 From: "David Solosy" To: Subject: Re: PD Decals Message-ID: 14134098700435@argo.net.au Carlos, You may be correct. I'll try to verify through my modellers network here in Oz. David S ---------- > From: Carlos Valdes > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: PD Decals > Date: 20 July, 1997 9:46 PM > > I don't know if this is correct, but I have seen comments somewhere on > the Net to the effect that PD is no longer in business. > Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:26:45 -0400 (EDT) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals impressions Message-ID: <970720122644_-1006539077@emout03.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-07-19 18:26:45 EDT, you write: << Seconding Eli's comment, I point out that the judges are generally not allowed to discriminate in that fashion. The problem is that it is not possible to have a panel of judges where all (or indeed any) know everything about everything. So to prevent harsh judging of subjects well known to the judges, or judging in ignorance on others, the choice is made to as far as possible judge on constructional skills >> Just to throw my opinion in ( yes, I did judge at the Nationals this year :)) The emphasis is more on basic construction. The judges are also working in areas that they are knowledgeable in. There are guidleine published for the judges and there are discussions of "color" The bottom line is not to be too dogmatic on this point. To qoute: " As you will notice in the section devoted to actual judging, the emphasis is on basics, and that is where it belongs. While I have flown many aircraft that didn't comply with the painting directives or where even the wrong color, I never saw one with a seam down the middle of it." The judging handbook also states that if a contestant enters a model with a "peculiar" color, he should provide some sort off documentation. Even at that it is "should" and not "will". All in all, I was very impressed by the quality and experience of the judges and judging. It is an enormous task and you know you are going to get beat up at the end of the day :). I would encourage all of you, if you have the opportunity, to sign up to be an OJT (on the job training) judge at the National level. You do not get to vote your first year, but it is a tremendous experience, and you get to finally find out what really goes on behind the closed doors. And hey, ya get a free breakfast too! (at 0600) Anyway, my hat is off to all of you who entered at the US Nationals! Tremendous work, I just wished that I knew that Jesse was the builder of thise beautifull WW 1 armor pieces when I ran into him! On the Armor front, there were a collection of WW I tanks entitled "Mother and here offspring", two Whippets, a Tadpole,a St.Chamond, An FT-17, a Mark I and a vignette by Mike McFadden with a scratchbuilt A7V and a Mark I entitled "First Encounter". A bit off historically :), but nevertheless excellent models. Matt also teased me with his Emhar 1/76 Mark IV " Hey, I just bought the last one" . We ripped the shrink wrap off and fondled the plastic in one of the vendor rooms. I see great possibilites with this kit, I also see some of the same fit problems of its larger parent, but its armor, and its WW I so I'm happy. I was informed when I got in Yesterday that a large pile of stuff arrived for me at the local hobby shop, so perhaps my Emhars are in. I just hope to hell that Herr Hustad stays out of WW I armor :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:45:12 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: More than a little help, please -- Albatri and Pfalz Message-ID: <33D24098.6AC1@ix.netcom.com> Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: > > The Shannons wrote: > > > > For my recent birthday, I was given a kit of the Glencoe Pfalz D.III to > > give me all those wonderful markings choices. Could someone please > > point me toward the info we recently had on the kit corrections and the > > markings? Also, anyone able to point me toward the Datafile? I haven't > > been able to get ahold of it (Pfalz D.III and D.IIIa). > > Mark, > > I have a copy of the old Rimel "corrections" article, as well as the > Profile and D.III Datafile, but you'll have to wait until Len's finished > with the Datafile. I suppose he could just mail it to you when he's > done. If you want a color copy of the plates in the Profile, send me > about $4.00 to cover costs/shipping; if not, send me $2.00 for c/s. > You'll have a bit of work converting the Glencoe Pfalz to a D.IIIa - > lower wingtips and tailplane, you know. I highly recommend saving up and > buying an Eduard kit rather than torturing yourself with the Glencoe. > Whatever you do, don't let it get anywhere near the Datafile plans...you > might get a bit discouraged. > I do not have your mailing address, so please post it. > > Riordan > -- > Michelle and Riordan Goodwin > Visit our websites: > > Michelle's Home/Resume Page: > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin -- Ectually, I have the Eduard, as well. I got the Glencoe as a gift because the markings on it were so colorful they struck my wife's fancy. The D.IIIa I'd like to do seems to have the pointed lower wings, but the large area horizontal stabilizer and, of course, the external machine gun mounts. It's the first one on the Aeromaster Pfalz collection sheets, with a black tail and black banded rear fuselage, six pointed star in a shooting star design over this, and the star without the comet trail on the upper wing. Because the design is a black & white one, my artistic sense would also like to have a Pfalz in the collection that has a more colorful decor. Since I have the two kits, I was thinking in terms of finishing the Eduard as the D.III using one of the Glencoe markings, then seeing about the bigger project of modifying the Glencoe into the other. (When so much has to be done to make it accurate, why not change the type at the same time?). The problem I have is that I suffer from a paucity of Pfalz references. Thank you for the offer of the information, I will set up the arrangements in the next week. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 09:57:13 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <33D24369.15C9@ricochet.net> B-A-L wrote: > > Dear Riodan > > Thanks for the offer ! > > If you have any drawings or photographs that show the lower wing union > with the fuselage I'd be grateful - The Windsock material isn't that > clear in this area. Also the exact shape of the fuselage at the lower > wing union is a bit " ambiguous " in the Windsock drawings ( bottom > line of the fuselage straight or curved ?? ) and the Photos don't make > the precise configuration quite clear either - Could you help there ? > > A couple of clear and clean happy snaps of both sides of the engine ( > uncowled ) would be great too. Can you give any guidance on the > colours of the engine and associated fitting spark plug leads Etc... ) > There's also a mention of there being a metal walkway betweeen the > engine and the fuselage ( is that both sides ? ) and have you a photo > or drawing ( sketch ) to show what these looked like ? > > The other request is for any really " different " or spectacular > colour schemes - Having gone to a whole lot of trouble with the detail > work I'd love to get either the IV or V ( Va) in something a bit > special > > Thanks and look forward to your reply > > DAVID R.L. LAWS David, This quote from an old Harry Woodman article: "The fuselage of the earlier G.II and of all subsequent models...picked up on the upper surface of the lower wing which necessitated a rather clumsy fillet at leading and trailing edges of the G.II and G.III versions. In the G.IV series, the front part of the fuselage was given a false bottom which brought the lower surface in line with the leading edge of the wing, although the rear fillet was still fitted." As for spectacular schemes, isn't a fire-breathing dragon, a writhing snake a ghoulish death's head flashy enough? I don't have much on color schemes, although Hauptmann Brandenburg, who led the first daylight raid on London flew a G.IV with a rust-red aft fuselage and tail. Unfortunately, I don't know the serial offhand & not sure if I've a reference anywhere. I'll send you copies as soon as you post your address. -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:25:54 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <33D24A22.6CFE@ricochet.net> B-A-L wrote: > > Dear Riodan > > Thanks for the offer ! > > If you have any drawings or photographs that show the lower wing union > with the fuselage I'd be grateful - The Windsock material isn't that > clear in this area. Also the exact shape of the fuselage at the lower > wing union is a bit " ambiguous " in the Windsock drawings ( bottom > line of the fuselage straight or curved ?? ) and the Photos don't make > the precise configuration quite clear either - Could you help there ? > > A couple of clear and clean happy snaps of both sides of the engine ( > uncowled ) would be great too. Can you give any guidance on the > colours of the engine and associated fitting spark plug leads Etc... ) > There's also a mention of there being a metal walkway betweeen the > engine and the fuselage ( is that both sides ? ) and have you a photo > or drawing ( sketch ) to show what these looked like ? > > The other request is for any really " different " or spectacular > colour schemes - Having gone to a whole lot of trouble with the detail > work I'd love to get either the IV or V ( Va) in something a bit > special > > Thanks and look forward to your reply > > DAVID R.L. LAWS David, I also have an article from Fine Scale Modeler on correcting the Aurora kit that may be of some use, as the builder semi-accurrizes it. Let me know & I'll include a copy. -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:48:33 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Nationals - 1/72nd scratchbuilts Message-ID: <19970720.134833.16246.6.mbittner@juno.com> Steve H's Albatros Dr.II was beautiful, and it took second. I was extremely impressed with this one. Quite well done! Bill Devins' (an IPMS regular) Hansa Brandenburg W.20. Really well done, but I can't see why. Although it's a Merlin kit, it's the best (I think) of the whole line. As I said, a really well done model. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:32:08 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Spad XIII Message-ID: <19970720.134833.16246.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:03:39 -0400 TPTPUMPER@aol.com writes: > I've seen the Meikraft SPAD XIII for over $20US, so $10 is a > good price. As Barry pointed out, no decal was provided. I was > told in a phone conversation with Meikraft that it was to keep > the cost down. He said that most real modelers would buy > aftermarket decals anyway, such as the several sheets offered by > PD (in 1/72 and 1/48). Does anyone know if the PD decals are > still available? (I just traded for a Meikraft SPAD myself. . . > ) I'm not sure where you can get them, but they have to be out there. Think about it. How many people are going to buy WW1 decals, besides ourselves? Do any of the Blue Rider sheets have SPAD 13's on them? Yes, as someone else stated, the PD decals are for American planes only. I'm hoping Blue Rider starts pumping out the French Escadrille sheets soon (Richard?). FWIW, I have a Meikraft 13. If you want a relatively easy 13 to build, buy one. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:34:49 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals impressions Message-ID: <19970720.134833.16246.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:27:37 -0400 Shane Weier writes: > Good God man! And I thought there was nothing new at the Nats. > Yet here we have not only a new model, heretofore unknown, but > of an aircraft also unheard of, and not one but FIVE built to > competition standards. Tell me more !!!! I guess I don't understand "new model", nor "unheard of". The Eduard, 1/72nd Fokker D.VIII/E.V has been out for months. > Seconding Eli's comment, I point out that the judges are > generally not allowed to discriminate in that fashion. The > problem is that it is not possible to have a panel of judges > where all (or indeed any) know everything about everything. So > to prevent harsh judging of subjects well known to the judges, > or judging in ignorance on others, the choice is made to as far > as possible judge on constructional skills. Well, not to start anything ;-) but how would you have liked it if your *correctly colored* Caudron G.4 got beat out by a peach one, assuming everything else was on par? And you get a comment from the judges like "it was more accurate"? Hmmm...? :-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:46:35 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions Message-ID: <19970720.134833.16246.5.mbittner@juno.com> Steve Hustad took second with his wonderful Pfalz D.VIII. Third went to a really nice, beautifully done Nie.11 in Italian markings. Nice and "petite", just as it should be. Overall, very impressive. Another Nie.11 conversion that, although not as "fine" as the previous, was well done none-the-less. Another Pfalz D.VIII. Another well done effort. Funny story about this one: all of us (Steve H., John Roll, Erik and I) were commenting on the prop, which was just two two-bladed props stuck together. "Oh, can't be right. It was a "true" four bladed prop." Hee hee. We all thought that, until I spied a copy of the ultra-rare WW1 Aero Publishers book on the Pfalz airplanes (no, I was unable to pick it up, as I was broke at the time) with a picture of - yep, you guessed it, a D.VIII with a four-bladed prop which consisted of two two-blades stuck together. Talk about eating toenails! ;-) A Fokker D.II converted out of a Revell Fokker E.III. A lot of work that paid off handsomely. I thought for sure it was the Meikraft kit, but nope, wrong again. That's all I can remember. The one thing that struck me was that I can't remember if there were any 1/48th WW1 conversions or scratchbuilts! Don't you Braille Scalers take any chances? Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:28:41 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals impressions Message-ID: <19970720.134833.16246.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:30:39 -0400 GRBroman@aol.com writes: > Just to throw my opinion in ( yes, I did judge at the Nationals > this year :)) The emphasis is more on basic construction. The > judges are also working in areas that they are knowledgeable in. > There are guidleine published for the judges and there are > discussions of "color" The bottom line is not to be too dogmatic > on this point. To qoute: " As you will notice in the section > devoted to actual judging, the emphasis is on basics, and that > is where it belongs. While I have flown many aircraft that > didn't comply with the painting directives or where even the > wrong color, I never saw one with a seam down the middle of it." > The judging handbook also states that if a contestant enters a > model with a "peculiar" color, he should provide some sort off > documentation. Even at that it is "should" and not "will". All > in all, I was very impressed by the quality and experience of > the judges and judging. It is an enormous task and you know you > are going to get beat up at the end of the day :). I would > encourage all of you, if you have the opportunity, to sign up to > be an OJT (on the job training) judge at the National level. > You do not get to vote your first year, but it is a tremendous > experience, and you get to finally find out what really goes on > behind the closed doors. And hey, ya get a free breakfast too! > (at 0600) Anyway, my hat is off to all of you who entered at the > US Nationals! Tremendous work, I just wished that I knew that > Jesse was the builder of thise beautifull WW 1 armor pieces when > I ran into him! On the Armor front, there were a collection of > WW I tanks entitled "Mother and here offspring", two Whippets, a > Tadpole,a St.Chamond, An FT-17, a Mark I and a vignette by Mike > McFadden with a scratchbuilt A7V and a Mark I entitled "First > Encounter". A bit off historically :), but nevertheless > excellent models. Matt also teased me with his Emhar 1/76 Mark > IV " Hey, I just bought the last one" . We ripped the shrink > wrap off and fondled the plastic in one of the vendor rooms. I > see great possibilites with this kit, I also see some of the > same fit problems of its larger parent, but its armor, and its > WW I so I'm happy. I was informed when I got in Yesterday that > a large pile of stuff arrived for me at the local hobby shop, so > perhaps my Emhars are in. I just hope to hell that Herr Hustad > stays out of WW I armor :) Glen Sorry to quote the whole thing, but I didn't know where I should snip. I really don't like blanket statements about seams running down the middle. If memory serves, didn't the Fokker D.VII have a "sewing seam" on the underside of the fuselage? And I will leave my judging comments at that. My first post was just about the "1/72nd Biplane" category. I'm about to post the other, 1/72nd categories. I need at least two more "Males"; one for a "regular" one, and another to make a recovery vehicle. So, where's the money?! Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:22:14 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Pfalz Booklet (formerly Re: Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions) Message-ID: <20221432504672@KAIEN.COM> Matt Bittner wrote..... > Another Pfalz D.VIII. Another well done effort. Funny story about this > one: all of us (Steve H., John Roll, Erik and I) were commenting on the > prop, which was just two two-bladed props stuck together. "Oh, can't be > right. It was a "true" four bladed prop." Hee hee. We all thought > that, until I spied a copy of the ultra-rare WW1 Aero Publishers book on > the Pfalz airplanes (no, I was unable to pick it up, as I was broke at > the time) with a picture of - yep, you guessed it, a D.VIII with a > four-bladed prop which consisted of two two-blades stuck together. Talk > about eating toenails! ;-) Matt, I have a copy of the Pfalz booklet if you would like a copy. BTW your original posting did *say* PFALZ D.VII/E.V Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:31:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nationals impressions Message-ID: Hi Matt, Speaking tongue in cheek I said: > > Good God man! And I thought there was nothing new at the Nats. >> Yet here we have not only a new model, heretofore unknown, but >> of an aircraft also unheard of, and not one but FIVE built to >> competition standards. Tell me more !!!! And your reply: >>I guess I don't understand "new model", nor "unheard of". The >>Eduard, 1/72nd Fokker D.VIII/E.V has been out for months. Ah, yes, but for some reason when I got your post it said PFALZ D.VIII/E.V Must have lost something in the transPacific translation. ;-) > >>> Seconding Eli's comment, I point out that the judges are >>> generally not allowed to discriminate in that fashion. > >>Well, not to start anything ;-) but how would you have liked it >>if your *correctly colored* Caudron G.4 got beat out by a peach >>one, assuming everything else was on par? And you get a comment >>from the judges like "it was more accurate"? Hmmm...? :-) I don't doubt that it'd be infuriating, but what if your *almost* perfectly accurate Nieuport 17 was marked down because a judge was expert in Nieuports and an unmodified Airfix Dr.I beat you because the judges weren't Fokker experts and didn't know how inacurate it was? (Just an aside. I saw a magnificent Dr.I get cut in a contest for incorrect colours. The modeller had Olive streaks over CDL upper surfaces - but the Judges just KNEW the truth from the Sqn Signal In action) Unfortunately, judging is always going to be a delicate balancing act. I've seen it go wrong, have suffered from it, even been guilty of causing it, but I can't see where it can *practically* be changed to improve things To quote Glen "The emphasis is more on basic construction. The judges are also working in areas that they are knowledgeable in. " At contests where I've judged we've taken the same line. When we can, we appoint juding panels which know the subject, though it's frequently difficult becuse the knowledgeable go and disqualify them selves by entering. Failing that, the best we can do is make sure aircraft modellers judge aircraft, AFV modellers judge AFV's, and a framework is provided to give the poor suckers judging (and inevitably doomed complaint) a logical methodology which helps when the *just*don't*know*. Incidentally, after 15 years of judging, I've only seen this same problem about 2000 times. Still don't know how we make everyone happy. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:59:59 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Pfalz Booklet (formerly Re: Nationals - 1/72nd Conversions) Message-ID: <33D28A5F.6A49@ricochet.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Matt Bittner wrote..... > > > Another Pfalz D.VIII. Another well done effort. Funny story about this > > one: all of us (Steve H., John Roll, Erik and I) were commenting on the > > prop, which was just two two-bladed props stuck together. "Oh, can't be > > right. It was a "true" four bladed prop." Hee hee. We all thought > > that, until I spied a copy of the ultra-rare WW1 Aero Publishers book on > > the Pfalz airplanes (no, I was unable to pick it up, as I was broke at > > the time) with a picture of - yep, you guessed it, a D.VIII with a > > four-bladed prop which consisted of two two-blades stuck together. Talk > > about eating toenails! ;-) > > Matt, > I have a copy of the Pfalz booklet if you would like a copy. > > BTW your original posting did *say* PFALZ D.VII/E.V > > Bob Pearson Bob, What aircraft does this obscure Pfalz booklet cover? I'm curious as Arthur Lee mentions a Pfalz two-seater in his memoirs. I would like a copy also, if it's not too much trouble. Thanks, Riordan -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:50:34 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Pfalz Booklet Message-ID: <22503439304816@KAIEN.COM> Riordan Goodwin wrote > > What aircraft does this obscure Pfalz booklet cover? I'm curious as > Arthur Lee mentions a Pfalz two-seater in his memoirs. > I would like a copy also, if it's not too much trouble. > > Thanks, > > Riordan ---------- Rory, Pfalz - First Detailed Story of the Company and Its Famous Planes by Grosz and Kruger contains photos and/or drawings of the following aircraft: Pfalz A.I Otto Pusher Pfalz Parasol Pfalz E.I-E.V Pfalz D.4 Roland D.I/D.II (Pfal) Pfalz D.III/IIIa Pfalz D.VI Pfalz D.III Triplane *not Dr.I* Pfalz C.I (Rumpler C.IV) Pfalz Dr. I Pfalz Dr.II Pfalz D.VII Pfalz D.VIII Pfalz D.XII Pfalz D.XIV Pfalz D.XV Unfortunately I have been sending lots of stuff to people at my own expense up to now, but will have to start charging to copy items that aren't being emailed. $4 should be enough to cover copying/shipping if anyone else wants a copy . However my profiles are still available for free by email. Regards Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:16:28 +1000 From: B-A-L To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <33D2AA5C.6BFE@eis.net.au> Riordan, Obliged for the latest offer and thank you I'd love a copy of the FSM article Regards David R.L. LAWS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:23:50 -0600 From: rjray@uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Spad XIII Message-ID: <199707210023.SAA16831@tremere.ecte.uswc.uswest.com> I have three of the Meikraft Spad 13C1 kits. The parts match the line drawings in the Windsock Datafile, and the PE looks nice. Like most of Meikraft kits, you'll get a result based on the effort you put in-- this isn't really an OOB project (though technically it could be, since aftermarket decals are allowed, and you do have enough in the kit to live with). Randy -- =============================================================================== Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." --Calvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:35:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Gotha Message-ID: David, Riordan > >David says: >>Obliged for the latest offer and thank you I'd love a copy of the FSM >article Riordan save the postage on the FSM article, I'll loan David the magazine, and he can see it in colour. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:04:38 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals impressions Message-ID: <19970720.200521.13398.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:38:14 -0400 Shane Weier writes: >Ah, yes, but for some reason when I got your post it said PFALZ >D.VIII/E.V DOH! So sorry. I promise to stay (for the most part) out of Braille Scale. >I don't doubt that it'd be infuriating, but what if your *almost* >perfectly accurate Nieuport 17 was marked down because a judge was >expert in Nieuports and an unmodified Airfix Dr.I beat you because the >judges weren't Fokker experts and didn't know how inacurate it was? That's always a problem. It's difficult finding good help nowadays. ;-) >(Just an aside. I saw a magnificent Dr.I get cut in a contest for >incorrect colours. The modeller had Olive streaks over CDL upper >surfaces - but the Judges just KNEW the truth from the Sqn Signal In >action) Oh man, there are so many "ekspurts" now based entirely on nothing but In Action's. Gads. I know there are some really good In Action's out there, but there are as many - if not more - bad ones. >Incidentally, after 15 years of judging, I've only seen this same >problem about 2000 times. Still don't know how we make everyone happy. You can't and inevetibly won't. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 22:26:59 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Roland C.II Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970720222659.00d2e190@pop.true.net> Hi Anyone has, has build or has seen the Merlin 1/48 Roland C.II Any recomendation ? THANKS SALUDOS ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 23:03:30 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: OTF Freebie Message-ID: <199707210303.XAA08928@pease1.sr.unh.edu> First come, first served I was putting all my Over the Front volumes into their new binders and discovered I had a duplicate. For those interested and wishing to see one, I'll mail it to the first one who replies. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:06:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Resin Stability Message-ID: Hello all, I've been wondering what would happen to a resin biplane model left in my house through our summer. I've seen thick wing monoplanes belonging to mates survive okay, and small (1:72) biplanes as well, but I fear how long, thin, highly cambered resin wings might react to the typical temperatures here. I'd hate to buy a resin kit for some large sum, build and admire it only to see it turned it a Pretzel D.III the first real summer day. FWIW I regularly record interior temperatures over 110F when I open the house on return from a day out. And NO, running an airconditioner non-stop is not an answer. Anyone know from experience? regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 23:14:52 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <199707210314.XAA09062@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 01:12 PM 7/20/97 -0400, Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: MAJOR DELETIONS I don't have much on color >schemes, although Hauptmann Brandenburg, who led the first daylight raid >on London flew a G.IV with a rust-red aft fuselage and tail. >Unfortunately, I don't know the serial offhand & not sure if I've a >reference anywhere. >I'll send you copies as soon as you post your address. This answers a question I had. I saw a small add for a new painting by Stan Stokes called "First Battle of Britain". It shows 3 Gothas, one with a red tail. If interested in the small color picture, let me know and I'll send it. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:24:39 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Re: Resin Stability Message-ID: <199707210326.LAA23107@cronus.per.dwr.csiro.au> G'Day Shane, I seriously doubt that you'll have any problems. The temperatures that one would use to soften resin either by hair dryer or hot water require temperatures around 80C not the 42C that you'd get at home. But, if you are worried I'd just look for a spot in a cupboard or maybe the fridge. Remember, it gets hotter here in Perth and I've never come across anyone complaining of melted models. Cheers, Rob Robert Woodbury CSIRO Land and Water Underwood Avenue Floreat Park WA 6014 Phone (08) 9333 6281 Fax (08) 9387 8211 e-mail Robert.Woodbury@per.clw.csiro.au World Wide Web http://www.clw.csiro.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, 21 July 1997 11:13 Subject: Resin Stability ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 617 *********************