WWI Digest 607 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eduard Strip Down's by Pedro Soares 2) Re: Eduard Strip Down's by Pedro Soares 3) Re: Eduard Strip Down's by "Brad Gossen" 4) Re: Decals by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 5) Re: Eduard Strip Down's by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 6) Decal prep (formerly Eduard Strip Down's) by Geoff Smith 7) Re: Decal prep (formerly Eduard Strip Down's) by Patrick Padovan 8) Re: Kevin Barrett: Thanks by Patrick Padovan 9) Re: Modelling philosophy (was: Eduard Strip Down's) by Alberto Rada 10) Re: Colt machine guns in Russian service by Alberto Rada 11) Camel File/ SE5 File by Patrick Padovan 12) Perspective on eliminating seams by Bob Pearson 13) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Bob Pearson 14) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Charles Hart 15) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Patrick Padovan 16) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Patrick Padovan 17) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Charles Hart 18) Re: Camel File/ SE5 File by Charles Hart 19) Re: help by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 20) Re: help by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 21) Re: Colt machine guns in Russian service by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 22) 504K Ordnance by Michelle and Rory Goodwin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:33:42 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Strip Down's Message-ID: <33C5E1D6.7756@anaep.pt> Paul and Patrick and all of you who stayed home, Being a modeler in this most western corner of Europe has some shortcomings but also a bunch of advantages: 1 - You'll never worry about not being able to attend the Nationals because there's no such thing around here 2 - You'll be forever tempted to scratchbuild your own stuff since there's no hobby shop that I know of that stocks photo-etched goodies and if you consider mail ordering, the current exchange rates of the pound and the dollar, on top of the typical 15% for p&p, make an already expensive item something of an extravagance (the kind you're entitled too for birthday or for graduating from the university :-)) for the commom modeler. As you know I do my a/c modeling in that most perfect of scales (1/72) and I do agree that what is important is to create an impression that the thing looks right, be it a cockpit interior or a detailed engine or whatever. As such I try to make do with scraps of plastic sheet (and I recycle a lot of yougurth cups for this) and rod as well as an infinite number of other materials I come across every now and then like telephone wire, fishing line etc, etc... I have nothing but sheer admiration (and even jealousy) for those guys that are able to replicate every nut and bolt in their models but since that is a standard much too high for me, I try to go only as far as to satisfy myself, knowing that probably next time I'll have to work a little more since this way standards are always on the rise. And I am always pleased with what I've been able to achieve. 3 years ago I couldn't scratchbuild a seat, now I'm doing fully detailled cockpit interiors. (I know that they can't compare with the work of lots of you guys, but still, they look pretty good for me and that's what really matters in the end). I have nothing against photo-etched and I haven't rulled out using it in the future, but I too feel that in 1/72, you'll have to have tweezer fingers to work with such tiny bits, which is not my case. Other point i'd like to raise is what good is to have detail parts supplied in etched form or in resin or in white metal as some main stream manufacturers are every now and then tempetd to do, when they could be perfectly well done in the normal injected plastic? I can't see that much of a difference between a well done plastic wheel and a resin one, so instead of loading the kit boxes with expensive multi material stuff why shouldn't manufacturers keep it simple and invest in better mould design? just my couple of centavos on this issue. Pedro P.S. Alexandre, ate que enfim que aparece alguem nesta lista que fala uma lingua decente. Um abraco de Portugal (sorry guys, translation follows: Alex, I'm glad to see this list finally blessed with the presence of someone speaking in a decent language, Regards from Portugal) :->. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:38:43 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Strip Down's Message-ID: <33C5E303.904@anaep.pt> Geoff Smith wrote: > > > Now a question about decals, I've been trying to apply Pegasus lozenge to= > > the interior of an E.V/D.VIII > without success. I've tried without setting solution and it won't conform= > to the shape properly but with microset (not sol), it goes all wrinkly an= > d > curls at the edges and stays that way. With sol it's even worse. This is = > on > bare plastic, will it be better painted, or are the decals the problem? > > TIA > > Geoff Hi Geoff, >From my humble experience, you should never use decals over bare plastic. Aplly an undercoat of gloss paint or varnish and the decals should stick to the parts as they are supposed too, HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:48:08 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Strip Down's Message-ID: <199707111153.HAA28759@smtp.globalserve.net> The truely ultimate kit, when completed, should have a maximum speed of around 115 mph at 6,500 ft, have a ceiling of about 18-20,000 ft, an endurance of 2hrs 30 min. Have you any idea how hard it is to find four Cooper bombs these days?! Those 6 ft sheets of photoetching are bad enough, but just think of the postage to the Philippines or Australia! :>) Brad BigglesRFC@globalserve.net "Semper Ubi Sub Ubi" ---------- > From: Valenciano . Jose > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Eduard Strip Down's > Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 11:51 PM > > > The ultimate kit: > > Real Rubber Wings > Dry Transfer Canopy > Photo Etched Tyres > Resin Markings > Vac Formed Rigging > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:56:30 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: <199707111301.IAA23159@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Geoff, Besides the painting and preparation of the plastic, I have two other possibilities for getting your decals to lay down. The first is to use a clear acrylic floor wax, such as Future, and brush this carefully over both the area and the decals after placement. I have never used this technique, but several others in our IPMS chapter have done it with good results. The wax tends to tighten the decals to the surface while it dries, and then protects them. The second is something that I have used on several occasions. I dilute either Micro Krystal Klear or Elmer's glue with water, and use it as above. This tends to work with older decals, and I only use it in areas where it will be less conspicuous, as it does cause a "buildup" over the decal. As you are working on the interior, either of these methods could give acceptable results, since any buildup would not be that noticeable. Paul A. Schwartzkopf =================================================================== Development Engineer--Software Transcrypt International, Inc. Telephone: (402) 474-4800 E-Mail: pauls@transcrypt.com =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:04:17 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Strip Down's Message-ID: <199707111309.IAA23215@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Pedro Wrote: >Other point i'd like to raise is what good is to have detail parts >supplied in etched form or in resin or in white metal as some main >stream manufacturers are every now and then tempetd to do, when they >could be perfectly well done in the normal injected plastic? I can't >see that much of a difference between a well done plastic wheel and a >resin one, so instead of loading the kit boxes with expensive multi >material stuff why shouldn't manufacturers keep it simple and invest >in better mould design? Exactly what I would like to see! Detail parts are nice, and I don't want to see them eliminated as after-market kits, but I would rather have a well-fitting, accurate kit without the costly detail parts. I can add these later if I desire to. Paul A. Schwartzkopf =================================================================== Development Engineer--Software Transcrypt International, Inc. Telephone: (402) 474-4800 E-Mail: pauls@transcrypt.com =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:37:21 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Decal prep (formerly Eduard Strip Down's) Message-ID: <199707111437_MC2-1AB2-178A@compuserve.com> Thanks to Bill & Bob for telling me to paint it. Never having used decals= on an unpainted surface before, (well you always paint models first) I wasn't expecting what happened. Suitably chastened I shall go away and blast some paint on. Thanks again, Geoff (who would do better to engage brain before operating typing finger= s) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Decal prep (formerly Eduard Strip Down's) Message-ID: Greetings! Wow, what a great string this has turned into! Lot's of intelligent, thoughtful, heartfelt comments from a bunch of great fellows. I especially loved the comment about, "this is a hobby, not a sport." Amen, brother! I think that the reason resin is often used for detail parts is that it is overall cheaper to make the molds and yet achieve the degree of surface details desired (this is reflected in the lower cost of resin after-market items, as compared to photo-etched.) However, I agree entirely that resin, or anything, is not "automatically better." That was my point. I would rather have an injected cockpit, for example, that is just part of the kit "and at no extra price." But, given the choice between scratchbuilding, photoetched (at 10.00 to 15.00) and resin (at 3.00-4.00), I'll take the resin if it looks right, since typically the kit itself won't have any cockpit interrior detail worth mentioning. I guess we modellers here in the U.S. are quite spoiled, really. By the way, I'd be happy to ship any kits or detail parts, etc. to any of you in Australia, Portugal, etc. if you'll let me know exactly what you want, and of course, reimburse me for the costs. I almost always feel satisfied with the models I finish. . .until six months or a year goes by. Then, I look at older models and see things I would do differently now. In this regard, I guess I feel I am always competing against myself, trying to improve over my previous efforts. (Not to mention the "Oh, here's the very photograph I needed for the plane I just built, and look, it's different and my model is not accurate" syndrome, which we've discussed before!) Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Kevin Barrett: Thanks Message-ID: I'm sending this via the list because I don't have K. Barrett's e-mail address: Kevin: Many thanks, I just received the copy of the SE.5 manual, and I much appreciate it! Please let me know if I can reimburse you for photocopying and mailing costs. Again, I thank you for our kind consideration. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:31:23 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Modelling philosophy (was: Eduard Strip Down's) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970711153123.006c3914@pop.true.net> Hi all of you abandoned souls Just a couple of thoughts on this thread, I started modeling again some 4 years ago and that's about 30 years after I had left it as a teenager to go college, what I found was a totally new world, I left Aurora and Revell and found back resin, etched brass aftermarket decals and you know what, at the beginning I was rather excited with all these new things and bought all I could find and put in, then I found out that most of it was not really an improvement to the kit and certainly not to the joy, some real examples, I think that etched gun jackets are irreplaceable and they really look better than anything else, an eduard instrument dashboard with the instrument film on the back is also incredible, and a seat belt buckle, but the rest I get, really I don't know what to do with it, the belts themselves are better done with paper or any other more malleable material, the struts, they all look undernourished and you have to work so much feeding them to look OK that's not worth it, besides after they invented the metal STRUTZ the rest is useless, some resin parts are OK but they are so pricey that you wonder. I also have a lot of aftermarket decals, but then, half of them are not better than the original ones. So now I am much more selective and also I have learned a bit to scratch built, and this is most satisfying. But then if something new comes out and its worth it and you enjoy using it, then why not ? It's a wonderful hobby but for one thing What am I doing here and not in the Nats ? SALUDOS ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:33:05 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Colt machine guns in Russian service Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970711153305.00d2770c@pop.true.net> Hi Riordan Your photocopy left yesterday, my office photocopier malfuntioned all week so it could not go out earlier, sorry SALUDOS ALBERTO At 07:49 PM 27-06-97 -0400, you wrote: >Alberto Rada wrote: >> >> Hi Riordan >> >> I have the book , just let me know and I'll photocopy the subject and send it >> >> SALUDOS >> >> ALBERTO >> >> At 01:26 AM 27-06-97 -0400, you wrote: >> >Harry Woodman's book on WW1 armament is the place to look. Now out >> >of print, but available by interlibrary loan. Woodman covers the >> >installation of these guns in Russian and Italian planes. >> > >> >They were sometimes synchronized, by the way, notably on the Sikorsky >> >S16. As the first gas-operated machine gun (1890?), it had some >> >operational problems. But it was successfully re-engineered to >> >produce the Marlin, which would have been the mainstay synchronized >> >gun for the US if the war had continued. Many reserve stock items >> >were dusted off and used throughout WW2 on armed merchant ships. >> > >> >> Anyone have plans/drawings or side view photos of these clunky >> >> unsynch'ed guns other than the little bit in Windsock and the FMP French >> >> book? I'm whittling the Smer Nieuport into an IRAS specimen, and I'd >> >> rather not put a Lewis on it unless I'm left with no alternative. >> >> 1/48 scale would be great, but I can do the scaling myself. >> >> >> >> TIA, >> >> >> >> Riordan >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michelle and Riordan Goodwin >> >> Visit our websites: >> >> >> >> Michelle's Home/Resume Page: >> >> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 >> >> Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >Alberto, > >That would be greatly appreciated. >Also, are there any photos or plates of an Nie.11 in the FMP book with >the death's head rudder markings of Kozakov's 19th ?. I'm mildly >interested in the accuracy of the Smer decals... I'm familiar with the >famous 'bob' Nie.17. > >Thanks, > >Riordan >-- >Michelle and Riordan Goodwin >Visit our websites: > >Michelle's Home/Resume Page: >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 >Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: Can anyone tell me where I can obtain these two books? They are British publications (Air Britain), and I have tried Amazon.Com, Zenith Books, etc, without success. Does anyone know where in the U.S. they can be purchased? Or a Canadian or U.K. address? I have read some very favorable reviews, including some comments from list members, and would like to get them if they are available. Thanks! Patricks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:14:28 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Perspective on eliminating seams Message-ID: <21142841439909@KAIEN.COM> And if we want to get away from it all here is the answer. I found it on the rec.model newsgroup. This is for all those Mk.IVs and Whippets out there...... (so it fits the era) Bob Pearson --------------------- "Casey wrote: >>I want to build a tank. I don't know what kind of a tank. >Don't worry Casey, I have it on good authority that modern medicine is >close to a cure for this peculiar ailment. Armor-the only kits where the >seam is supposed to show. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:21:06 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: <21210698839917@KAIEN.COM> Patrick, They are excellent books. A third one in a similiar vein is Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919. I got mine from Aviation World in Toronto. The email address is avworld@interlog.com or the snail is 195 Carlingview Drive Rexdale, Ontario M9W 5E8 Canada 1(800) 668-1987 HIH Bob Pearson ---------- > From: Patrick Padovan > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Camel File/ SE5 File > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:06:50 -0400 > > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain these two books? They are > British publications (Air Britain), and I have tried Amazon.Com, Zenith > Books, etc, without success. Does anyone know where in the U.S. they can > be purchased? Or a Canadian or U.K. address? I have read some very > favorable reviews, including some comments from list members, and would > like to get them if they are available. > Thanks! Patricks > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Padovan > Interlibrary Loan Associate > > Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 > 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 > Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:19:11 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain these two books? They are >British publications (Air Britain), and I have tried Amazon.Com, Zenith >Books, etc, without success. Does anyone know where in the U.S. they can >be purchased? Or a Canadian or U.K. address? I have read some very >favorable reviews, including some comments from list members, and would >like to get them if they are available. > Thanks! Patricks It is easiest (and cheaper) to purchase these direct from Air-Britain. They take credit cards, hence you save hassles with currency exchange. I and friends have had very good service from them. If you are a member of Cross & Cockade International, the prices of these books are discounted. Try writing to: Air-Britain (Historians) Ltd. 19 Kent Road Grays Essex RM17 6DE UNITED KINGDOM You can also surf on over to: http://www.air-brit.demon.co.uk/ This is the Air-Britain Web site and lists the publications for this organization. Lots of interesting non-WW I material to be found. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: Dear Bob: Many thanks for the information about Aviation World. I was beginning to think I was just out of luck as far as these titles were concerned, and after reading the reviews in "Chandelle" I really wanted to get copies. Thanks again! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:27:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: Charles: Thanks! I'd just replied to Bob, thanking him for his info, when your message came through. One way or another, I should be able to get hold of these. Thanks again! Ciao, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Charles Hart wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain these two books? They are > >British publications (Air Britain), and I have tried Amazon.Com, Zenith > >Books, etc, without success. Does anyone know where in the U.S. they can > >be purchased? Or a Canadian or U.K. address? I have read some very > >favorable reviews, including some comments from list members, and would > >like to get them if they are available. > > Thanks! Patricks > > > It is easiest (and cheaper) to purchase these direct from Air-Britain. > They take credit cards, hence you save hassles with currency exchange. I > and friends have had very good service from them. If you are a member of > Cross & Cockade International, the prices of these books are discounted. > > Try writing to: > > Air-Britain (Historians) Ltd. > 19 Kent Road > Grays > Essex RM17 6DE > UNITED KINGDOM > > You can also surf on over to: > > http://www.air-brit.demon.co.uk/ > > This is the Air-Britain Web site and lists the publications for this > organization. Lots of interesting non-WW I material to be found. > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:31:00 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: >Patrick, > >They are excellent books. A third one in a similiar vein is Royal Navy >Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919. I got mine from Aviation World in >Toronto. The email address is avworld@interlog.com or the snail is > >195 Carlingview Drive >Rexdale, Ontario >M9W 5E8 >Canada > >1(800) 668-1987 I can recommend the Royal Navy Aircraft SErials book also, this was my most recent purchase direct from Air-Britain. The price was US$16.00 plus 10% surface mail. This title is on sale to members and non-members alike. At over 450 pages, this is a steal, lots of good photos. Charles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:39:27 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Camel File/ SE5 File Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain these two books? They are >British publications (Air Britain), and I have tried Amazon.Com, Zenith >Books, etc, without success. Does anyone know where in the U.S. they can >be purchased? Or a Canadian or U.K. address? I have read some very >favorable reviews, including some comments from list members, and would >like to get them if they are available. > Thanks! Patricks > Prices for books: Camel File 16.00 (13.00 members) Se-5 File 20.00 (16.00 members) Prices are British pounds. Today's exchange rate is US$1.00= GBP 1.6960 I leave it to the reader to do the arithmetic. Charles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:51:08 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <33C6D4FC.2B95@ricochet.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > What's the command to send the list server so I get sent a copy > of my own postings to the group? > > And, for those who are bemoaning the $25 and up kits with the > plethora of itsy-bitsy photo-etched parts, remember that Smer > and Glencoe are still out there, making kits exactly like kits > were made in 1964. And the prices are roughly a third or less > of a typical Eduard kit. > > Ya' won't win many contests with a Smer but ya' can build six > Smers in the time it takes to fold all the photo-etched stuff > on a single Eduard. And the eyestrain factor will be lower, > as well. > > Cheers, > > -- > - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - > > - Cave ab homine unius libri! - Well put, Bill. I'm just about to start whittling on a Smer 504...cost me a whole 5 bucks- this is closer to 1/4 to 1/5 of an Eduard in the local shops. And it's large enough to rig w/o ending up in a straight jacket. Not that I wouldn't be buying every bloody Eduard if I'd been more sensible (sp?) about my career choice! -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:02:35 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <33C6D7AB.E60@ricochet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > Bill, > > >You said: > >And, for those who are bemoaning the $25 and up kits with the > >plethora of itsy-bitsy photo-etched parts, remember that Smer > >and Glencoe are still out there, making kits exactly like kits > >were made in 1964. And the prices are roughly a third or less > >of a typical Eduard kit. > > > I wish. The latest Eduards Pfalz D.III are costing me A$24 (about > US$17.50). The Glencoe reissue of the Aurora Pfalz is A$28. The > Linberg Jenny is A$25 > > So which manufacturer gets my money? > > Shane Shane, Given so little difference in price (do you have access to US mail order?) I would definitely go with Eduard, as it is a superior kit in all respects (the prop/spinner alone is worth it!) with the possible exceptions of box art and decals/options. I'm still not ready to resume the semi-scratch/conversion battle with my Glencoe D.III(a)-but I guess it wouldn't be a battle if I could only live with a prop that looks like two strips of bacon with a button in the middle, (among other things). Riordan -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:09:27 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Colt machine guns in Russian service Message-ID: <33C6D947.164B@ricochet.net> Alberto Rada wrote: > > Hi Riordan > > Your photocopy left yesterday, my office photocopier malfuntioned all week so > it could not go out earlier, sorry > > SALUDOS > > ALBERTO > > At 07:49 PM 27-06-97 -0400, you wrote: > >Alberto Rada wrote: > >> > >> Hi Riordan > >> > >> I have the book , just let me know and I'll photocopy the subject and > send it > >> > >> SALUDOS > >> > >> ALBERTO > >> > >> At 01:26 AM 27-06-97 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Harry Woodman's book on WW1 armament is the place to look. Now out > >> >of print, but available by interlibrary loan. Woodman covers the > >> >installation of these guns in Russian and Italian planes. > >> > > >> >They were sometimes synchronized, by the way, notably on the Sikorsky > >> >S16. As the first gas-operated machine gun (1890?), it had some > >> >operational problems. But it was successfully re-engineered to > >> >produce the Marlin, which would have been the mainstay synchronized > >> >gun for the US if the war had continued. Many reserve stock items > >> >were dusted off and used throughout WW2 on armed merchant ships. > >> > > >> >> Anyone have plans/drawings or side view photos of these clunky > >> >> unsynch'ed guns other than the little bit in Windsock and the FMP French > >> >> book? I'm whittling the Smer Nieuport into an IRAS specimen, and I'd > >> >> rather not put a Lewis on it unless I'm left with no alternative. > >> >> 1/48 scale would be great, but I can do the scaling myself. > >> >> > >> >> TIA, > >> >> > >> >> Riordan > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Michelle and Riordan Goodwin > >> >> Visit our websites: > >> >> > >> >> Michelle's Home/Resume Page: > >> >> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 > >> >> Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >Alberto, > > > >That would be greatly appreciated. > >Also, are there any photos or plates of an Nie.11 in the FMP book with > >the death's head rudder markings of Kozakov's 19th ?. I'm mildly > >interested in the accuracy of the Smer decals... I'm familiar with the > >famous 'bob' Nie.17. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Riordan > >-- > >Michelle and Riordan Goodwin > >Visit our websites: > > > >Michelle's Home/Resume Page: > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 > >Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > > > > Alberto Gracias! Gald to get it at all! -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:16:46 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: 504K Ordnance Message-ID: <33C6DAFE.D8@ricochet.net> Anyone have any info or educated guesses on where the bombs might have been hung and/or how an observer's non-Scarff Lewis mount might look? TIA. -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 607 *********************