WWI Digest 576 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Brussels Museum by Charles Hart 2) Re: vacationing in the US by Carlos Valdes 3) Re : New Request Netherlands by Fportier@aol.com 4) Re: vacationing in the US by rjray@uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) 5) Re: Off-topic ESCI D.VII by Charles Hart 6) Silverbird by "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" 7) Re: Silverbird by Charles Hart 8) Re: Silverbird redux by Charles Hart 9) Re: Netherlands by JimMaas@aol.com 10) Re: vacationing in the US by Alberto Rada 11) Re: Junkers D.I by "Valenciano . Jose" 12) Re: vacationing in the US by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 13) Re: vacationing in the US by Frank Landrus 14) Re: vacationing in the US by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 15) RAF Technical Notes by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 16) Re: vacationing in the US by spbldr 17) Re: Off-topic ESCI D.VII by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 18) Riordan's ESCI DVII by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 19) Re: RAF Technical Notes by Kevin Wenker 20) Re: RAF Technical Notes by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 21) Re: RAF Technical Notes by Sandy Adam ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:24:07 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Brussels Museum Message-ID: For anyone onthis list interested in previewing the contents of the Brussels museum, surf on over to: http://www.totavia.com/pacman/Brussels.htm This site features some very nice photos of the aircraft there, not limited to WW I. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu >Mike, > >The only places I'm aware of are the R.Neth AF museum at Soesterberg whic= >h >is/was a fighter base and a Museum which was at Schipol Airport. I presum= >e >it's still there, I was last there in 1963 but it was pretty good and qui= >te >large. I remember several biplanes, a Fokker Spinne (or replica) and a >Spitfire. I don't remember any more 'cos its a long time ago and I can't >remember what happened ten minutes ago. Course if you get near Brussels, >visit the Musee Royal de l'Armee. > >HTH > >Geoff (or whoever) > >BTW I think there's a Fok. D.VII at Soesterberg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:47:23 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970610135150.29a77736@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Tom, If you're going to be in the Miami area, there are two places you should visit: Orange Blossom Hobbies, an excellent hobby shop, and the Weeks Air Museum, a small but very nice spot with several interesting a/c and some WWI artifacts. I don't have addresses or phone #s handy, but you can look these up in the local phone books. Kermit Weeks also has an attraction called, I believe, Fantasy of Flight in the Orlando area; I have yet to visit it so I can't comment on it, but it appears to have a good reputation, and if it's like the Miami museum it should definitely be worth visiting. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:51:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Fportier@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re : New Request Netherlands Message-ID: <970610145129_712414780@emout11.mail.aol.com> Dear Member, I cannot help you with places of WW1 interest in the Netherlands but I happen to know a delightful and affordable hotel in the city of Leiden, conveniently close to Amsterdam and the Hague. This Hotel de Doelen, Rapenburg 2, 2311EV Leiden; tel. 071 120527, fax 0710128453. Rapenburg is possibly one of the loveliest canals in the Netherlands. The hotel is a converted noble town house dating back to the 17th century. Leiden has a great past, many fascinating museum and was the place where the Pilgrim Fathers lived until they decided to sail across the pond. Recommended. Yours truly, Francois ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 13:20:50 -0600 From: rjray@uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <199706101920.NAA10321@tremere.ecte.uswc.uswest.com> >>> Tom Werner Hansen said: > I will be spending some time in Florida, end of June, Denver, first week > of July, Long Beach, California, the rest of the summer (till mid' > august) > Is there anything going on in any of those areas at this time that might > be of interest? > I also need the address of at least one good hobby shop. I had trouble > finding one last time. I know Charles Hart mentioned a good hobby shop > in Denver. (my first reply on this subject is to the list, as I have mis-placed Charles' e-mail address) Denver has an excellent shop called Colpar Hobbies, in Aurora. There is also a Colpar store in Lakewood, but it is not nearly as comprehensive. I would be happy to hear from you when you're in town, and perhaps several of us (including Charles and perhaps Denver's premier WWI fanatic, Steve Lawson) might grab a dinner or something together. On the 1:1 scale front, the Wings Over the Rockies Museum has a replica-built Fokker D.VII (the source of my photos on the website). The engine isn't the right one, but the rest of the plane makes for a nice walk-around. You might even be able to talk the museum staff into letting you get in for close-ups and such. Randy -- =============================================================================== Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." --Calvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 13:41:02 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Off-topic ESCI D.VII Message-ID: Riordan wrote: >In case anyone's interested, I just threw one together, so I'll offer a >few comments- >Main shortcomings of the kit are textured surfaces, inaccurate radiator, My question is: what is the inaccuracy of the radiator ? D-VIIs were fitted with a couple of different pattern radiators. I've never checked, but I thought that the ESCI/Entex/Eldon D-VII kit radiator followed one of these alternatives. My other question is: Why do you think this is "off topic" ?? <> >Unless you are prepared to do extensive surface prep,the kit is more >suitable for non-lozenge scemes, as decal adhesion is a little dicey on >the textured surfaces. Did you paint these surfaces before applying lozenge decals ? This would lead to better decal adhesion and partially smooth over the simulated fabric. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:00:09 -0500 From: "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Silverbird Message-ID: Just had to email and let everyone know. I saw on Silverbird where a "new" company out of the Ukraine(?), by the name of Toka, has announced a whole slew of 1/72nd WW1's, all injected, I believe (but could be wrong). The only ones I remember are: Nie.11 and SSW D.III. There were about 8 or 9 listed. Anybody able to surf over and get the whole list? Matt bittnerm@stratcom.af.mil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:24:41 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Silverbird Message-ID: >Just had to email and let everyone know. I saw on Silverbird where a >"new" company out of the Ukraine(?), by the name of Toka, has announced >a whole slew of 1/72nd WW1's, all injected, I believe (but could be >wrong). > >The only ones I remember are: Nie.11 and SSW D.III. There were about 8 >or 9 listed. > >Anybody able to surf over and get the whole list? > > >Matt >bittnerm@stratcom.af.mil Here is a list of HORA resin kits from the Silverbird site. Was this what you have in mind ?? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu HOR72001 Focke Achgelis Fa 225 11.90 HOR72002 Reggiane Re.2005 Sagittario 11.90 HOR72003 Yakovlev UT-1 9.90 HOR72004 Polikarpov UTI-4 NYA HOR72005 Gloster Gauntlet 11.90 HOR72006 Hansa-Brandenburg C I NYA HOR72007 Pfalz E I, E II NYA HOR72008 Pfalz A I NYA HOR72009 Bristol Scout 11.90 HOR72010 Hanriot HD-1 11.90 HOR72011 Morane H NYA HOR72012 Morane L Parasol NYA HOR72013 Morane N 11.90 HOR72014 Nieuport 11 NYA HOR72015 Nieuport 16 NYA HOR72016 Nieuport 24 bis 11.90 HOR72017 Nieuport 24/27 11.90 HOR72018 Albatros (Oeffag) D III (253) 11.90 HOR72019 Aviatik Berg D I 11.90 HOR72020 Phoenix D II 13.90 HOR72021 Phoenix C I 13.90 HOR72022 Fokker E IV 13.90 HOR72023 Fokker E II NYA HOR72024 Fokker D II NYA HOR72025 Fokker D III NYA HOR72026 Fokker D V 11.90 HOR72027 Albatros D I 11.90 HOR72028 Albatros D II Early 12.90 HOR72029 Albatros D II Late 13.90 HOR72030 Albatros (Oeffag) D II NYA HOR72031 Gotha G III NYA HOR72032 Gotha G IV NYA HOR72033 DFW B.I 12.90 HOR72034 Caudron G III 12.90 HOR72035 Siemens-Schuckert D I NYA HOR72036 Phoenix D I 11.90 HOR72037 Avro 504 11.90 HOR72038 Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter 11.90 HOR72039 Airco DH-5 11.90 HOR72040 Breguet 14 B2 NYA HOR72041 Heinkel He 51 11.90 HOR72042 DFS 230 13.90 HOR72043 Klemm 35 NYA HOR72044 Messerschmitt 35 11.90 HOR72045 Focke Wulf Fw 44 Stieglitz 11.90 HOR72046 Bucker Bu 131 Jungmann 6.90 HOR72047 S.G. 38 6.90 HOR72048 Pitts Special 6.90 HOR72049 Autogiro Cierva 11.90 HOR72050 Ford GPA Jeep NYA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:31:27 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Silverbird redux Message-ID: >Just had to email and let everyone know. I saw on Silverbird where a >"new" company out of the Ukraine(?), by the name of Toka, has announced >a whole slew of 1/72nd WW1's, all injected, I believe (but could be >wrong). > >The only ones I remember are: Nie.11 and SSW D.III. There were about 8 >or 9 listed. > >Anybody able to surf over and get the whole list? > > >Matt >bittnerm@stratcom.af.mil Here is a list of kits under the category of "irregular supplies" from the Silverbird site. No indication if these are resins or short runs, many of these have been rendered as Czech Resins in years past. Could these be knock-offs of those earlier resins ? Anyone's guess I suppose. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu Toko Hansa Brandenburg W.29 NYA Toko Siemens Schuckert D.III,D.IV NYA Toko Hansa Brandenburg D.I NYA Toko Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter NYA Toko Pfalz D.XII NYA Toko Aviatik Berg D.I NYA Toko Sopwith 7F1 Snipe NYA Toko Nieuport 11 Bebe NYA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:24:15 -0400 (EDT) From: JimMaas@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Netherlands Message-ID: <970610182332_287876029@emout20.mail.aol.com> There is indeed a Fokker D.VII at Soesterberg, as well as a Caudron something or other. If I recall correctly the D.VII is actually an authentic German machine, but painted up to represent a postwar Dutch aircraft, with orange disks. As opposed to the one in Germany, which is a postwar build machine used by the Dutch Army, but currently painted up to represent a German wartime aircraft (should these people be talking to each other...?). You can take a train to Amersfoort, then ask the local VVV (tourist info) office which bus to take to the Militaire Luchvaart Museum at Kamp Van Zeist. The bus will drop you near the gate, but be prepared to do a little hiking in to the museum (doing this on a rainy day would be a bad idea). If you are driving, go through Soesterberg on a street called 'Kampweg', which leads right into the Kamp Van Zeist/Museum complex. Nod at the people walking in from the bus stop as you pass them..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:42:11 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970610184211.00cb6950@pop.true.net> Hi Tom As Carlos said , if you are going to Miami , Weeks Air Museum should be a must , it is located at Kendall-Tamiami Airport in S.W. Miami, it was totally destroyed be hurricane Andrew ( a B-17 was found totally wrecked more than a mile away ) it is now pretty much reconstructed and with some nice planes. Orange Blossom is a pretty big store, they own Aeromaster products , and are located very near the airport, let me know if you want the address I'll find it and send it . Also as Carlos stated Fantasy of Flight is quite a place to go, its in Polk City , about 20 minutes from Orlando, they recreate a WW1 and WW2 atmosphere, and have a very interesting collection of aeroplanes also they have several simulators resembling Grumman F-6 where you can shoot it out with the whole Japanese Airforce and score some victories ( or go down in flames ) it is quite realistic. I can fax you brochures on Weeks and Fantasy of Flight if you wish SALUDOS ALBERTO At 02:56 PM 10-06-97 -0400, you wrote: >Tom, > If you're going to be in the Miami area, there are two places you >should visit: Orange Blossom Hobbies, an excellent hobby shop, and the Weeks >Air Museum, a small but very nice spot with several interesting a/c and some >WWI artifacts. I don't have addresses or phone #s handy, but you can look >these up in the local phone books. Kermit Weeks also has an attraction >called, I believe, Fantasy of Flight in the Orlando area; I have yet to >visit it so I can't comment on it, but it appears to have a good reputation, >and if it's like the Miami museum it should definitely be worth visiting. > Carlos > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:56:52 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Junkers D.I Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Sandy Adam wrote: > I know Joey is trying to get one and the only pity is that Chris has run > out of his Edition. Arrrgh! Why doesn't he reissue? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 17:55:36 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <339DF788.2BBA@ricochet.net> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > Hi list. > I'm in the final process of putting together my plans for this summer's > trip to the US. > I will be spending some time in Florida, end of June, Denver, first week > of July, Long Beach, California, the rest of the summer (till mid' > august) > Is there anything going on in any of those areas at this time that might > be of interest? > I also need the address of at least one good hobby shop. I had trouble > finding one last time. I know Charles Hart mentioned a good hobby shop > in Denver. Could somebody come back to me on this one, please. > I leave Norway on June 20, and will try to get temporarily unsubscribed > from the list for 6-7 weeks. I know this will cause severe withdrawal > symptoms, but at least a couple of the people I will be visiting are on > the Net, so maybe I'll come in for a visit when I'm there. > > Tom. Tom, If you're willing to drive a couple hours, the San Diego Aerospace Museum down south is well worth the trip. They have an excellent WWI section with what I believe to be a restored Man-Eggerton Spad VII, Jenny, and replicas of Nie. 11, Albatros D.V (?). Also, very humbling collection of vintage scratchbuilt WWI planes (balloon-scale). Lots of great off-topic stuff too. It's at 2001 Pan American Plaza, Balboa Park, San Diego CA (619) 234-8291 I am affiliated with the Museum as a lifetime member and have spent countless hours rooting around in their reference library/archive. Unfortunately, it's a "members only" deal, but If you give me an estimated window of when you might get down there, I'll try to contact them if you think you might be interested in nosing around. Be advised that they only have a few back issues of Windsock, and a lot of the WWI drawings/plans in their files are dated and inaccurate. They do own most if not all of the FMP titles, though, as well as quite a bit of rare & oop WWI reference books... Just let me know. Riordan -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:30:37 -0600 From: Frank Landrus To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <339E0DCD.7F65@flash.net> Tom : It depends where you are going in Florida. Since others have covered the Miami and Orlando area, the Panhandle is left. The Naval Air Museum would be a must if you get close to Pensacola. Within an hour of Pensacola is Destin, Florida. Destin is currently the home of Heritage Aviation, the current caretakers of the Paul Matt collection. Frank Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > Hi list. > I'm in the final process of putting together my plans for this summer's > trip to the US. > I will be spending some time in Florida, end of June, Denver, first week > of July, Long Beach, California, the rest of the summer (till mid' > august) > Is there anything going on in any of those areas at this time that might > be of interest? > I also need the address of at least one good hobby shop. I had trouble > finding one last time. I know Charles Hart mentioned a good hobby shop > in Denver. Could somebody come back to me on this one, please. > I leave Norway on June 20, and will try to get temporarily unsubscribed > from the list for 6-7 weeks. I know this will cause severe withdrawal > symptoms, but at least a couple of the people I will be visiting are on > the Net, so maybe I'll come in for a visit when I'm there. > > Tom. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:55 -0400 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <199706110157.VAA16657@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 02:56 PM 6/10/97 -0400, Carlos Valdes wrote: >Tom, > If you're going to be in the Miami area, there are two places you >should visit: Orange Blossom Hobbies, an excellent hobby shop, and the Weeks >Air Museum, a small but very nice spot with several interesting a/c and some >WWI artifacts. I don't have addresses or phone #s handy, but you can look >these up in the local phone books. Kermit Weeks also has an attraction >called, I believe, Fantasy of Flight in the Orlando area; I have yet to >visit it so I can't comment on it, but it appears to have a good reputation, >and if it's like the Miami museum it should definitely be worth visiting. I visited the Fantasy of Flight museum this Spring. It was terriffic. Flight simulater for a Wildcat and some great walk-through exhibits. Week on WWI but well worth the trip. The lunch room alone is worth it...art-deco 1930"s style with huge windows. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:12:45 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: RAF Technical Notes Message-ID: To the listmembers: The grandfather of a friend of mine was a mechanic in the RAF in 1918, and due to some incalculable set of circumstances, his RAF Technical Notebooks wound up in his grandson's closet 80 years later. My friend fished these out for me, and they've been a lot of fun to pour through. It's kind of cool to look at these little soft-cover binders with the following warning on the covers: "The information contained herein is not to be communicated either directly or indirectly to any person not holding an official position in His Majesty's Forces." In any event, I have access to Royal Air Force Technical Notes on the following five aircraft: Avro Biplane Type 504, BE2c, BE2e, DeHavilland No.4 and the SE5a. Each set of notes contains the Manufacturers' Order of Erection (you know...for the plane!), List of Principal Dimensions, Notes on Overhauling, a few photo plates and the Rigging Diagrams. Sometime over the next few weeks I'm going to photocopy a set of these for myself. Therefore, as far as it is within my ability to do so, I grant you an official position in His Majesty's Forces and am offering to photocopy and send you the notes on your favourite plane. Let me know which one interests you, if any(!). Kevin B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:23:02 -0400 From: spbldr To: wwi Subject: Re: vacationing in the US Message-ID: <339E0C06.7624@concentric.net> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > Hi list. > I'm in the final process of putting together my plans for this summer's > trip to the US. > I will be spending some time in Florida, end of June, Denver, first week > of July, Long Beach, California, the rest of the summer (till mid' > august) > Is there anything going on in any of those areas at this time that might > be of interest? > I also need the address of at least one good hobby shop. I had trouble > finding one last time. I know Charles Hart mentioned a good hobby shop > in Denver. Could somebody come back to me on this one, please. > I leave Norway on June 20, and will try to get temporarily unsubscribed > from the list for 6-7 weeks. I know this will cause severe withdrawal > symptoms, but at least a couple of the people I will be visiting are on > the Net, so maybe I'll come in for a visit when I'm there. > > Tom. Try hte COLINIAL PHOTO and HOBBY in Orlando FORIDA. OR THE HAPPY HOBO IN TAMPE OR ORANGE HOBBIES IN MIAMI OR TRAIN AND TROOPER IN NORTH YARMOUTH MAINE Good Luck Roger -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:29:51 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Off-topic ESCI D.VII Message-ID: <339E0D9F.2BC1@ricochet.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > Riordan wrote: > > >In case anyone's interested, I just threw one together, so I'll offer a > >few comments- > >Main shortcomings of the kit are textured surfaces, inaccurate radiator, > > My question is: what is the inaccuracy of the radiator ? D-VIIs were > fitted with a couple of different pattern radiators. I've never checked, > but I thought that the ESCI/Entex/Eldon D-VII kit radiator followed one of > these alternatives. > > My other question is: Why do you think this is "off topic" ?? > > <> > > >Unless you are prepared to do extensive surface prep,the kit is more > >suitable for non-lozenge scemes, as decal adhesion is a little dicey on > >the textured surfaces. > > Did you paint these surfaces before applying lozenge decals ? This > would lead to better decal adhesion and partially smooth over the simulated > fabric. > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu Charles, According to my meager refs, most of the D.VIIs (even the MAGs, as you know) appear to have had three "facets" on the radiator grilles; a flat rectangular central panel with two others, wider trapezoids slightly angled, one on either side. The ESCI kit has a radiator that is bisected vertically, having only two facets. It is also molded oversized and so must be carefully blended with the front of the fuselage. You and I both know that the Great War didn't really end until nearly 1922 (or 1945), and until professional historians admit it, the Russian Civil War shall remain off-topic. The 'plane is a WWI type, so it should be partially allowed... As I was modeling an all-black D.VII that there are no ref. photos of (see Aten's "Last Train Over Rostov Bridge" if you haven't already), I elected to finish it as "repaired" with plain linen undersurfaces and so got out of the lozenge predicament on a technicality. I'm confident, though, with enough coats of gloss primer and/or sanding, one might get any decal to stick to this kit. I have copies from Windsock Albatros Fighters of double-radiator layout of Pasha D.Vs. Interested? Riordan -- Michelle and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Michelle's Home/Resume Page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/9171 Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:56:52 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Riordan's ESCI DVII Message-ID: I haven't found a picture of a DVII with a radiator like the one on the ESCI kit, but Goring's F5125/18 comes "sort of" close. See the picture and diagram on page 63 of the JG1 Fabric Special from Albatros. Kevin B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:07:52 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: RAF Technical Notes Message-ID: <339E2498.495E@interaccess.com> barrett wrote: > > To the listmembers: > > The grandfather of a friend of mine was a mechanic in the RAF in 1918, and > due to some incalculable set of circumstances, his RAF Technical Notebooks > wound up in his grandson's closet 80 years later. My friend fished these > out for me, and they've been a lot of fun to pour through. It's kind of > cool to look at these little soft-cover binders with the following warning > on the covers: "The information contained herein is not to be communicated > either directly or indirectly to any person not holding an official > position in His Majesty's Forces." > > In any event, I have access to Royal Air Force Technical Notes on the > following five aircraft: Avro Biplane Type 504, BE2c, BE2e, DeHavilland > No.4 and the SE5a. Each set of notes contains the Manufacturers' Order of > Erection (you know...for the plane!), List of Principal Dimensions, Notes > on Overhauling, a few photo plates and the Rigging Diagrams. > > Sometime over the next few weeks I'm going to photocopy a set of these for > myself. Therefore, as far as it is within my ability to do so, I grant you > an official position in His Majesty's Forces and am offering to photocopy > and send you the notes on your favourite plane. Let me know which one > interests you, if any(!). > > Kevin B. Kevin, I would even build a 1/72 thingie for a set of SE5a plans. Thanks Kevin w. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 07:41:52 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: RAF Technical Notes Message-ID: <199706111249.HAA02353@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Kevin B Wrote: >Sometime over the next few weeks I'm going to photocopy a set of these >for myself. Therefore, as far as it is within my ability to do so, I >grant you an official position in His Majesty's Forces and am offering >to photocopy and send you the notes on your favourite plane. Let me >know which one interests you, if any(!). Kevin, I would be interested in a copy of the Avro 504 and DH4 manuals. How large are these (pages)? Just a thought, but are they something that could possibly be scanned and placed on Alan's web page, if he (and you) are willing and able? Maybe not all the manuals at once, but on a "rotating" basis? Paul There are 2 types of masking tape--one that won't stay on, and the other that won't come off. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 16:18:53 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: RAF Technical Notes Message-ID: > Kevin B Wrote: > >Sometime over the next few weeks I'm going to photocopy a set of these > >for myself. Therefore, as far as it is within my ability to do so, I > >grant you an official position in His Majesty's Forces and am offering > >to photocopy and send you the notes on your favourite plane. Let me > >know which one interests you, if any(!). Kevin, these are the manuals which are collated together in the RAF Museum Series vol 4. I referred to this a few months ago when we had our ding-dong about Stability and I used these as a ref for the trim wheels in various cockpits although I remember some 'square-earthers' still refused to believe it. I only mention this as one kind soul - I'm sorry I've binned the message long ago - had the same book and offered to scan bits for interested parties. (I don't have a scanner.) I listed the planes then but there are 29 types included. This would get the info onto the web page - but I am sure we would all rather have the original 1918 booklets to drool over - well at least those of us who like the guys that wore the white hats! ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 576 *********************