WWI Digest 536 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re : Moranes, a final tally by Fportier@aol.com 2) Re: Nice model! by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 3) Re: Nice model! by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 4) Re: Ceramic Wire by Tom Werner Hansen 5) Re: Modelling magazine(s) by Tom Werner Hansen 6) Re: Re : Re: Mo' Moranes by DavidL1217@aol.com 7) Re: Aurora Gotha by DavidL1217@aol.com 8) Re: Modelling magazine(s) by DavidL1217@aol.com 9) Re: Eduard 1/72 Stripped Camel in Review by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: Aurora Gotha by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 11) Hansa Brandenburg W.33 by Tom Werner Hansen 12) Dragon F.VIII lozenge by Tom Werner Hansen 13) Re: Aurora Gotha by "Joseph Gentile" 14) Re: Re : Moranes, a final tally by mbittner@juno.com 15) Dragon F.VIII lozenge by Geoff Smith 16) Re: Nice model! by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 17) Re: Aurora Gotha by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 18) Re: Aurora Gotha by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 19) Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 20) Re: Dragon F.VIII lozenge by Tom Werner Hansen 21) Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 by Tom Werner Hansen 22) Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 23) Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 by Alberto Rada 24) Re: Help with Moranes by Alberto Rada 25) Re: Nice model! by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 03:25:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Fportier@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re : Moranes, a final tally Message-ID: <970509151344_-997022195@emout05.mail.aol.com> Dear Matt, Another Morane type P model has just appeared in France, by the new company Airkit. It is a 1/72 resin kit, I have no indication concerning prices. The address given in the latest issue of Avions where I picked up the info is: Association Airdoc, BP 13, 07400 Rochemaure, France. Also available is a Caudron G2 floatplane. As both types were previously issued by Veterans 72 I suspect these are reissue by a different set of people. So much the better. Best regards, Francois ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 02:45:10 -0500 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: Nice model! Message-ID: <19970510074807.AAA14720@default> Jose, Thanks for the kind words. Don't get me wrong, I like the way it turned out. It's just that when I look at it, I see all the things I compromised on just to get it finished. I guess "disappointed" is the wrong word. Maybe I should have said "it didn't turn out exactly the way I planned." Paul H. ---------- > From: Valenciano . Jose > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Nice model! > Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 10:03 PM > > > Hi Paul Howard, > > Nice Glencoe Alb. D.III. Why do you feel disappointed with it? > > > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 03:28:47 -0500 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: Nice model! Message-ID: <19970510083012.AAA15657@default> Pfalz? I have the Blue Max D.XII on my list of upcoming projects to finish, but I haven't got it done yet. Unfortunately, my modeling time has been very limited lately so I don't know when I'll actually get it finished. I did send some scans of a couple of other models to Allan this evening though. One is a Morane Saulnier Type "N" from Eduard, and the other is a Fokker E.V from Koster. Also, if I can find the roll of film with the pictures on it, I may do some scans of my SSW D.III. Paul ---------- > From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Nice model! > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 12:43 AM > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > Hi Paul Howard, > > > > Nice Glencoe Alb. D.III. Why do you feel disappointed with it? > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > > > ********************************************************************* > > Is there a picture of Paul's Pfalz on the WWI page? > -- > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > Visit our websites: > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:07:02 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic Wire Message-ID: <3374AB36.E64@sn.no> Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > On Wed, 7 May 1997, Pedro Soares wrote: > > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, guys, what's nylon monofilament for then? > > > > Hi Jose > > > > I too have used monofilament a couple of times but i'm not yet > > satisfied with the methods I've tried to anchor it. How do you do it? > > I usually run my nylon over some fine sandpaper to remove the sheen. I > think this helps the super glue do its work better. > > All I used to do was drill holes, stick the ends in and add a dab of glue. > What's nice about the nylon is that it has some "give"/elasticity. > > But recently I've gotten a tip from Hiro that works great. I make very > very small "eyebolts" that serve as anchor points. I make them by winding > the thinnest copper wire once around the thinnest steel wire you can get. > Then you twirl the ends of the copper wire together making an eyebolt > with an eye only as large as the diameter of the steel wire. This is what > I glue into the anchor points. Then, I insert the nylon at one end and > glue it.. I insert the nylon at the other end and add a weight (tweezers or > a hemostat) to the end of the nylon to keep it taut, then add glue to the > anchor point. > > This works really great and the eyebolt is practically invisible for it's > small size. Also you could use the eyebolt as an anchor for more than one > line if needed. It's also great for keeping parallel flying wires > parallel. > Thanks a lot. Two ideas with great potential. Love the eyebolts. Have alwyas been worried about the look of the top wing after I seal the holes for the thread. Accolades to Hiro for the idea, can't wait to try it out. Tom W. Hansen > ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:54:18 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Modelling magazine(s) Message-ID: <3374A83A.1F58@sn.no> Charles. Can you check one of your magazines for the publisher's address in France. I've never seen this magazine anywhere in Norway. Tom Werner Hansen > > Au contraire, if I read the subscription form in the April issue > correctly, they will gladly accept credit cards, including VISA, for > subscription payment. For one year, 12 issues, the cost is 420 FF or about > US$74.00. Individual issues list for 35 FF or US$6.25, my news stand hits snip > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Re : Re: Mo' Moranes Message-ID: <970510083744_2017977651@emout17.mail.aol.com> Francois, I am very pleased to see that these kits will once again see the light of day. I have two, the Morane BB and the Bregeut 5. With the new Flying Machines Press book out, and the desire for more 1915-16 aircraft, there will be new demand for these types. David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:51:40 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora Gotha Message-ID: <970510085139_-399156423@emout03.mail.aol.com> I compared the Aurora to the Datafiles and its off in several ways. I think that the article in FSM had one worthy approach, that is build it well, but not try to make an exact replica. Because of its size, this qualifies as a "coffee table" model. Like a "coffee table book", a"cofffe table model" is known for its Big size, interesting first impression, colorful subject but not much in the way of text. My renewed interest in the Bregeut comes out of the fact that Tom's Modelworks appears to have been sold to Copper State and therefore we may not see the Bregeut from them. If anybody has better information, please let me know. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Modelling magazine(s) Message-ID: <970510085525_1390497085@emout17.mail.aol.com> As respects to Avions, we all have computers and there is inexpensive translation software out there.... I wonder if the software works with a scanner?... I would hate to have to get a scanner. Thank God, my wife got better grades in French than I ever did! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard 1/72 Stripped Camel in Review Message-ID: <970510085857_1786161358@emout14.mail.aol.com> I see diorama fodder with this one! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:22:35 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora Gotha Message-ID: >"...The fuselage is too wide and there is no portside bulge...The wings >are weak in all departments...the nacelles are reasonable in side-view >but way out in plan being flat sided rather than adopting the bulbous >curves of the original..." (From the Datafile) >The lower wings should be straight inboard of the nacelles, and the >'communication' between the cockpit & gun positions is absent. The >engines are nothing more than the tops of cylinders. >I have the FSM article which is helpful in some respects. The shape and width of the fuselage does as well as the ouytlines of the rudder and fuselage do not agree with the Datafile. The communication passageway between the front and rear crew stations was omitted from the G.V model and replaced by fuel tanks with a narrow crawlspace connecting the crew stations. The fuselage gun tunnel is incorrecly portrayed - it should be a concave conical section. It would be easier to scratchbuild a Gotha if you wanted an accurate 1/48th scale model of the kit. My question: What would folks rather see in 1/48: a G.IV or a G.V? The G.IV has many interesting finishes that do not require the application of a lozenge finish. This is also a conceptually simpler model with the engines/fuel tank assemblies sitting directly on top of the lower wing - the G.Vs had the engine eggs perched atop the lower wings on struts The G.V came in several flavors including the G.Va and G.Vb with the box tail. Some of the lozenge finishes are very striking, in particular, the ones with the snakes and dragons painted along the fuselage sides.. My next question: What ever happened to the rumours of a 1/48th scale Gotha kit from Sierra Scale or Eduard? And finally: What would be a reasonable price to pay for a 1/48th kit in resin, vac, and metal? --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:24:45 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 Message-ID: <3374F5AD.E96@sn.no> I'm trying to locate some information with the view of building the Hansa Brandenburg W.33 as used by Norway in the immediate post-war years. I found in the latest Hannants catalogue that they will soon have an MPM Hansa Brandenburg W.29. Does anybody know if this can be turned into a W.33? I have nothing about the W.29 in my files. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:02:34 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Dragon F.VIII lozenge Message-ID: <3374FE8A.39AD@sn.no> Dragon F.VIII I just bought the Dragon Fokker F.VIII, which upon immediate opening looks very nice, but there's one big question: Did they get the colour of the lozenge right? All my Fokker colour sources give quite a different set of colours. Are the kit colours badly off, or is there something I should know that I don't? If I should get a replacement, which is best? (remember that I live in Europe and mail order from the UK is probably fastest). Tom Werner Hansen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:03:22 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Aurora Gotha Message-ID: <199705101430.JAA14753@Walden.MO.NET> > It would be easier to scratchbuild a Gotha if you wanted an accurate 1/48th > scale model of the kit. > That seems to be the general concensus. Build it up as is with minimal modifications and accept it for it's shortcomings. > My question: What would folks rather see in 1/48: a G.IV or a G.V? I'd like to see a multi version kits offered something like the Rareplanes that can with relative ease represent a G.IV and early G.V. This would keep things simple yet allow the builder to invest in Americal stock if they wanted to cover they chose to opt for a lozenge scheme. > My next question: What ever happened to the rumours of a 1/48th scale Gotha > kit from Sierra Scale or Eduard? I believe that Bob at Sierra has scratched his plans for ANY new WWI releases in either scale for the near future. Eduards? I don't remember that one. Maybe our reviewer in Canada can comment. He seems to have an ear tuned to Eduards. Mark....is there anything here? About 10 months ago Bill Koster of KAE was pondering a Gotha but I do not know if anything will ever come to fruition. > Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:36:51 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Re : Moranes, a final tally Message-ID: <19970510.103807.13374.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 10 May 1997 03:28:30 -0400 Fportier@aol.com writes: > Another Morane type P model has just appeared in France, by the > new company Airkit. It is a 1/72 resin kit, I have no indication > concerning prices. The address given in the latest issue of > Avions where I picked up the info is: > > Association Airdoc, BP 13, 07400 Rochemaure, France. > > Also available is a Caudron G2 floatplane. As both types were > previously issued by Veterans 72 I suspect these are reissue by > a different set of people. So much the better. Anybody know if these are available in the states, yet? Any of the hobby shops subscribing: can you get these? (Rosemont, Roll, Sopwith, etc.) Are they worth whatever the price may be? I'm still finding it difficult to justify $35 on a Halberstadt D.I/II/V. Even though I have seen these (thanks, David!) and like they way they look, at this point it's difficult to justify that amount of money. Does Avions review these, and if so, could someone "translate" for me? ;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:43:46 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Dragon F.VIII lozenge Message-ID: <199705101144_MC2-1653-4975@compuserve.com> >I just bought the Dragon Fokker F.VIII, which upon immediate opening >looks very nice, but there's one big question: Did they get the colour >of the lozenge right? All my Fokker colour sources give quite a >different set of colours. Are the kit colours badly off, or is there >something I should know that I don't? >If I should get a replacement, which is best? (remember that I live in >Europe and mail order from the UK is probably fastest). Tom, I queried this in a post a few weeks back. The opinion seemed to be : 1./ the kit colours are off. 2./Only 4 colour lozenge is suitable for D.VIII 3./Americal/Gryphon are best 4./Superscale are easiest to get (Hannants have 'em), reasonable for colour but not exciting. 5./Aeromasters isn't liked much but their 5 colour is OK. (I think Hannants stock these too) Credits for the above are due to Charles Hart & Mark Shannon. I notice there was no mention of the Pegasus lozenge. Does anyone have an opinion on these? BTW the original thread was "Re: DML Fokker Dr.I" dated 18/04/97. Good luck Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:56:34 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Nice model! Message-ID: <33749AB2.2101@ricochet.net> Paul Howard wrote: > > Pfalz? I have the Blue Max D.XII on my list of upcoming projects to > finish, but I haven't got it done yet. Unfortunately, my modeling time has > been very limited lately so I don't know when I'll actually get it > finished. > > I did send some scans of a couple of other models to Allan this evening > though. One is a Morane Saulnier Type "N" from Eduard, and the other is a > Fokker E.V from Koster. Also, if I can find the roll of film with the > pictures on it, I may do some scans of my SSW D.III. > > Paul > > ---------- > > From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Nice model! > > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 12:43 AM > > > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > > > Hi Paul Howard, > > > > > > Nice Glencoe Alb. D.III. Why do you feel disappointed with it? > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > > > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > > > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > > > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > > > > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > Is there a picture of Paul's Pfalz on the WWI page? > > -- > > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > > Visit our websites: > > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com Oops! I misunderstood. The Albatros turned out great; you pulled the silk purse out of the sow's ear. The Glencoe is probably a better starting point than the Smer. I built the A-H version as a Polish plane, and as it was my 1st biplane in about 15 years, I was much less concerned with detailing than just getting it to fit together. What did you use for wing-rib detail? I've found it less tortuous to limit my improvements to refining the kit's parts as much as I can stand. The Smer has too many problems to try and fix 'em all, especially when there's a proper D.V out now and a D.III within a year. I consider it a practice kit, which I can screw up with a minimum of grief. I'm hip to compromising just to get the darned thing done! Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:10:10 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora Gotha Message-ID: <33749DE2.28AC@ricochet.net> DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > > I compared the Aurora to the Datafiles and its off in several ways. I think > that the article in FSM had one worthy approach, that is build it well, but > not try to make an exact replica. I have contemplated fixing the lower wings and concluded that it probably ain't worth it. If anybody has skill in carving/sculpting/vac or resin casting,the nacelles could really use improvement. Front view is really weak. Or better yet, make some up for G.III/IVs (these are relatively simple shapes) to open up non-lozenge, finish and minimum engine detail options. I would offer any and all reference materials necessary. -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:18:38 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora Gotha Message-ID: <33749FDE.FE5@ricochet.net> Jesse Thorn wrote: > > >"...The fuselage is too wide and there is no portside bulge...The wings > >are weak in all departments...the nacelles are reasonable in side-view > >but way out in plan being flat sided rather than adopting the bulbous > >curves of the original..." (From the Datafile) > >The lower wings should be straight inboard of the nacelles, and the > >'communication' between the cockpit & gun positions is absent. The > >engines are nothing more than the tops of cylinders. > >I have the FSM article which is helpful in some respects. > > The shape and width of the fuselage does as well as the ouytlines of the > rudder and fuselage do not agree with the Datafile. The communication > passageway between the front and rear crew stations was omitted from the > G.V model and replaced by fuel tanks with a narrow crawlspace connecting > the crew stations. The fuselage gun tunnel is incorrecly portrayed - it > should be a concave conical section. > > It would be easier to scratchbuild a Gotha if you wanted an accurate 1/48th > scale model of the kit. > > My question: What would folks rather see in 1/48: a G.IV or a G.V? > > The G.IV has many interesting finishes that do not require the application > of a lozenge finish. This is also a conceptually simpler model with the > engines/fuel tank assemblies sitting directly on top of the lower wing - > the G.Vs had the engine eggs perched atop the lower wings on struts > > The G.V came in several flavors including the G.Va and G.Vb with the box > tail. Some of the lozenge finishes are very striking, in particular, the > ones with the snakes and dragons painted along the fuselage sides.. > > My next question: What ever happened to the rumours of a 1/48th scale Gotha > kit from Sierra Scale or Eduard? > > And finally: What would be a reasonable price to pay for a 1/48th kit in > resin, vac, and metal? > > --Jesse I'd almost be willing to part with $60 US for this kinda kit. Don't know if there's enough of a market for it, considering Eduard's Hannover Cl.IIIa didn't do to well over here. It's the MvR syndrome; people wanna buy 'glamorous' single-seat fighters, so manufacturers will play it safe and continue to make them. -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:34:12 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 Message-ID: <3374A384.51FE@ricochet.net> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > I'm trying to locate some information with the view of building the > Hansa Brandenburg W.33 as used by Norway in the immediate post-war > years. > I found in the latest Hannants catalogue that they will soon have an MPM > Hansa Brandenburg W.29. Does anybody know if this can be turned into a > W.33? I have nothing about the W.29 in my files. According to Green & Swanborough, W.33 was a bigger 'plane- had larger wings, a longer fuselage and a different engine. Problematic conversion. You are welcome to the library's odds & ends on these aircraft. Just post your mailing address. Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:10:46 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Dragon F.VIII lozenge Message-ID: <33752AA6.6B3@sn.no> Geoff Smith wrote: > > >I just bought the Dragon Fokker F.VIII, which upon immediate opening > >looks very nice, but there's one big question: Did they get the colour > >of the lozenge right? All my Fokker colour sources give quite a > >different set of colours. Are the kit colours badly off, or is there > >something I should know that I don't? > >If I should get a replacement, which is best? (remember that I live in > >Europe and mail order from the UK is probably fastest). > > Tom, > > I queried this in a post a few weeks back. The opinion seemed to be : > > 1./ the kit colours are off. > > 2./Only 4 colour lozenge is suitable for D.VIII > > 3./Americal/Gryphon are best > > 4./Superscale are easiest to get (Hannants have 'em), reasonable for colour > but not exciting. > > 5./Aeromasters isn't liked much but their 5 colour is OK. (I think Hannants > stock these too) > > Credits for the above are due to Charles Hart & Mark Shannon. I notice > there was no mention of the Pegasus lozenge. Does anyone have an opinion on > these? > > BTW the original thread was "Re: DML Fokker Dr.I" dated 18/04/97. > > Good luck > Geoff Mea culpa Geoff, I had read the old thread about this lozenge. I just didn't realize that this was the same kit. Thanks for the summary. Tom W.Hansen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:13:52 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 Message-ID: <33752B60.1216@sn.no> Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: > > Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > > > I'm trying to locate some information with the view of building the > > Hansa Brandenburg W.33 as used by Norway in the immediate post-war > > years. > > I found in the latest Hannants catalogue that they will soon have an MPM > > Hansa Brandenburg W.29. Does anybody know if this can be turned into a > > W.33? I have nothing about the W.29 in my files. > > According to Green & Swanborough, W.33 was a bigger 'plane- had larger > wings, a longer fuselage and a different engine. Problematic conversion. > You are welcome to the library's odds & ends on these aircraft. Just > post your mailing address. > > Riordan > -- > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > Visit our websites: > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com Thanks for the info. I might try anyway. Fools rush in where.. well you know. Would appreciate whatever you've got. My snail mail addr: Tom Werner Hansen Skippergaten 5 N-1630 GAMLE FERDRIKSTAD Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:51:08 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 Message-ID: <3374D1AC.5F30@ricochet.net> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: > > > > Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to locate some information with the view of building the > > > Hansa Brandenburg W.33 as used by Norway in the immediate post-war > > > years. > > > I found in the latest Hannants catalogue that they will soon have an MPM > > > Hansa Brandenburg W.29. Does anybody know if this can be turned into a > > > W.33? I have nothing about the W.29 in my files. > > > > According to Green & Swanborough, W.33 was a bigger 'plane- had larger > > wings, a longer fuselage and a different engine. Problematic conversion. > > You are welcome to the library's odds & ends on these aircraft. Just > > post your mailing address. > > > > Riordan > > -- > > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > > Visit our websites: > > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com > > Thanks for the info. > I might try anyway. Fools rush in where.. well you know. > Would appreciate whatever you've got. > > My snail mail addr: > Tom Werner Hansen > Skippergaten 5 > N-1630 GAMLE FERDRIKSTAD > Norway You want both W.29 and W.33 data? -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:26:29 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Hansa Brandenburg W.33 Message-ID: <199705102026.QAA18955@fw.true.net> PMP stands for ? is this kit going to be 1/48 ? SALUDOS ALBERTO At 10:08 AM 10-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >I'm trying to locate some information with the view of building the >Hansa Brandenburg W.33 as used by Norway in the immediate post-war >years. >I found in the latest Hannants catalogue that they will soon have an MPM >Hansa Brandenburg W.29. Does anybody know if this can be turned into a >W.33? I have nothing about the W.29 in my files. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:27:32 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Help with Moranes Message-ID: <199705102027.QAA19009@fw.true.net> It is indeed similar to the Pochers, have you ever seen an un-built one ?. A year ago I had the opportunity to buy one at a very good price, received it, opened it, fainted, closed it, and kept it in my models closet, if I ever reincarnate as a mechanical-electrical engineer, with a PHD in space ships and working in my spare time with George Lucas doing Marquette spaceships for Star Wars " The grandson of the Jedi " . I might have the courage to try it. Any one who builds this, and puts it in a Coffee Table should be sent straight to the firing squad. SALUDOS ALBERTO At 07:58 PM 09-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Production of the Metropolitan 1/24 kits began and ended with the Caudron. > The kit was engineered by the same person who went on to do the Pocher >cars. This is a big "Coffee Table" model which in many ways are similar to >the 1/8 Pocher cars. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:15:41 -0500 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: Nice model! Message-ID: <19970510221854.AAA14162@default> The wing rib detail is just .005 strip blended in at the rib locations. If I were doing today, I'd use vellum strips saturated in super glue. Then the ribs would look more uniform... Thanks for the kind words though. And you're right about the SMER kit. YUCK! I'm not that brave. Good Luck, Paul H ---------- > From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Nice model! > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 11:00 AM > > Paul Howard wrote: > > > > Pfalz? I have the Blue Max D.XII on my list of upcoming projects to > > finish, but I haven't got it done yet. Unfortunately, my modeling time has > > been very limited lately so I don't know when I'll actually get it > > finished. > > > > I did send some scans of a couple of other models to Allan this evening > > though. One is a Morane Saulnier Type "N" from Eduard, and the other is a > > Fokker E.V from Koster. Also, if I can find the roll of film with the > > pictures on it, I may do some scans of my SSW D.III. > > > > Paul > > > > ---------- > > > From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: Re: Nice model! > > > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 12:43 AM > > > > > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Paul Howard, > > > > > > > > Nice Glencoe Alb. D.III. Why do you feel disappointed with it? > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > > > > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > > > > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > > > > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > > > > > > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > Is there a picture of Paul's Pfalz on the WWI page? > > > -- > > > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > > > Visit our websites: > > > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > > > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com > Oops! I misunderstood. The Albatros turned out great; you pulled the > silk purse out of the sow's ear. The Glencoe is probably a better > starting point than the Smer. I built the A-H version as a Polish plane, > and as it was my 1st biplane in about 15 years, I was much less > concerned with detailing than just getting it to fit together. > What did you use for wing-rib detail? > I've found it less tortuous to limit my improvements to refining the > kit's parts as much as I can stand. The Smer has too many problems to > try and fix 'em all, especially when there's a proper D.V out now and a > D.III within a year. I consider it a practice kit, which I can screw up > with a minimum of grief. I'm hip to compromising just to get the darned > thing done! > > Riordan > -- > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > Visit our websites: > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 536 *********************