WWI Digest 533 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) WWW Page Update by aew (Allan Wright) 2) Re: Laminated Props by "Joseph Gentile" 3) Re: IPMS Region V by "Joseph Gentile" 4) Re: New 1/72 Camel from Eduard: by "Joseph Gentile" 5) Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info by "Joseph Gentile" 6) Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 7) Re: Laminated Props by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 8) Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 9) Autumn leaf decals by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 10) Re: IPMS Region V by Geoff Smith 11) Re: Flying Machines Press e-mail address by "Eli Geher" 12) Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. by Tom Werner Hansen 13) Re: Autumn Leaf Camouflage: Also: Re 1/32 N.24/27 by Patrick Padovan 14) Re: Autumn leaf decals by Patrick Padovan 15) Re : More Moranes by Fportier@aol.com 16) Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info by Patrick Padovan 17) 1/32 N.24/27 by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 18) Invisible thread / was Ceramic Wire by thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) 19) Re: Ceramic Wire by thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) 20) Re: 1/32 N.24/27 by Patrick Padovan 21) Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. by Brian Nicklas 22) Re: More Moranes by BStett3770@aol.com 23) Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 24) Re: Moranes by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 25) Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info by Patrick Padovan 26) Re: Moranes by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 27) Re: Moranes by Geoff Smith 28) Re: Flying Machines Press e-mail address by BStett3770@aol.com 29) Re: Spain by Alberto Rada 30) Re: Medals Etc. by Alberto Rada 31) Re: Invisible thread / was Ceramic Wire by Alberto Rada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Cc: phoward@abilene.com Subject: WWW Page Update Message-ID: <199705081404.KAA01838@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hello Modelers, Just a quick WWW page update - I've added a new gallery for Paul Howards models to the images page. Right now he has a 1/48 Albatros D-II there, but I expect more images as he scans them in. Check it out. I also have to announce that I'll be removing the 1994-1995 archive due to space considerations. If anyone wants anything form the archive go get it now. I'll be dumping it to tape next week and taking it off-line. Thanks, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:55:26 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Laminated Props Message-ID: <199705081414.JAA15799@Walden.MO.NET> > Maybe I'm just being obtuse, but if you want to accurately model > something that was made of laminated wood - why don't you just > laminate some thin strips of wood, and make one yourself? You know, > scratchbuilding - like modellers used to do? ;-P > Steve, I believe that we all have strengths and weaknesses. My strengths are that I am a competent builder who handles the teeny weeny parts well and has an eye for detail. My weaknesses are still alas with the airbrush in multi color schemes. I have no idea how to hand carve airscrews. In an ideal situation one should train their weaknesses and maintain their strength. I can continue to improve with the airbrush but I have neither the time nor inclanation to learn how to carve laminated props at this point in my life. I'll buy them, acknowledge the source and rationalize my decision stating convenience. It's kind of an American thing like supermarkets, pre packaged lunch meat etc.. Sorry to rant and rave. I believe that a few list members acutally do carve their own props, Rob in Colorado? and either Shane or Bill down under I think. I'm just a wimp with a blade. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:00:16 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: IPMS Region V Message-ID: <199705081414.JAA15809@Walden.MO.NET> > Haven't seen any replies to this but if it's on the way to being a good > representation, consider my interest genuine. Let me know how much > financial damage altogether for one. > >Geoff, if you have the Datafile special read the review. It isn't a very pretty sight and though I haven't seen the kit before for the editor to blast any kit it must be rather bad. Again remember the original was issued in what, 1958? Mine is going deep into hibernation. I'll wait on another 1/48 Gotha and in the meantime address my biscaler tendencies by building the petite Rareplanes kit. So, do you still want one? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:04:37 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: New 1/72 Camel from Eduard: Message-ID: <199705081414.JAA15812@Walden.MO.NET> > Anyone have any experience or advice on applying an Austro-Hungarian > "Autumn Leaf" pattern in 1/72nd? Martin O'Connor provides a detailed > description of the pattern in his Austro-Hungarian tome, and apparently > the original was applaied with paint soaked rags or sponges. I don't plan > on doing this, as the paint would be too thick for the scale. Any > suggestions? > Regards, Patrick Americal/Gryphon sheet 89 Autumn Leaf Camouflage, scale 1/72. Ochre, green and terral cotta mottles. Let me know if you need the address and or an order sheet and I'll fax you one. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:08:57 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info Message-ID: <199705081414.JAA15817@Walden.MO.NET> Riordan, I can get you the information requested as well as some interesting drawings that were given to me. Will black and white suffice? Give me your mailing address and I'll get it out before the move. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 07:41:05 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. Message-ID: <3371E601.2CAD@ricochet.net> Charles, That sounds about low-end retail average. Did I ever thank you for the Hannover copies? If not, thanks, if so, thanks again. -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 07:47:29 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Laminated Props Message-ID: <3371E781.7863@ricochet.net> Steve Kerry & Carol Ann Green wrote: > > Maybe I'm just being obtuse, but if you want to accurately model > something that was made of laminated wood - why don't you just > laminate some thin strips of wood, and make one yourself? You know, > scratchbuilding - like modellers used to do? ;-P > > -- > Steve Kerry > Yorkshire, UK This may sound wimpy, but it has something to do with unnecessarily making more work for oneself on already time intensive projects, and eliminating trial & error. Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 07:52:02 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info Message-ID: <3371E892.3DCA@ricochet.net> Joseph Gentile wrote: > > Riordan, > > I can get you the information requested as well as some interesting > drawings that were given to me. Will black and white suffice? Give me > your mailing address and I'll get it out before the move. > > Joe Thanks, Joe. B&w will be fine. If there's any appendices after pg.30, please include those too. 492 McDuff Ave Fremont, CA 94539-7538 -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:16:22 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Autumn leaf decals Message-ID: >Greetings: Under their New Arrivals listing on their online catalog, >Squadron has a 1/72nd Sopwith Camel kit from Eduard. Now for the bad news: >its another of their "Strip Down" kits, like their recent Fokker E-type. >I don't recall the price. Plastic cowl, engine, etc. The rest of the kit >consists of brass from which to make the "skeletal" airframe. Not a >favorite of mine. > Anyone have any experience or advice on applying an Austro-Hungarian >"Autumn Leaf" pattern in 1/72nd? Martin O'Connor provides a detailed >description of the pattern in his Austro-Hungarian tome, and apparently >the original was applaied with paint soaked rags or sponges. I don't plan >on doing this, as the paint would be too thick for the scale. Any >suggestions? > Regards, Patrick > > If you don't want to go mucking around with brush application of this scheme with appropriate colored paints, you might try Americal/Gryphon Decal sheet #89 Autumn Leaf , or #90 Summer Leaf, for these schemes. The 1:48 equivalents are #91 Autumn leaf and #92 Summer Leaf. Each sheet has about 7x10 inches of colored decal and sells for $6.50 plus postage per sheet. The address is: Americal/Gryphon Decals 4373 Varsity Lane Houston TX 77004 Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:50:19 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: IPMS Region V Message-ID: <199705081150_MC2-1639-A13D@compuserve.com> Joe: >>Geoff, if you have the Datafile special read the review. It isn't a very pretty sight and though I haven't seen the kit before for the editor to blast any kit it must be rather bad. Again remember the original was issued in what, 1958? Mine is going deep into hibernation. I'll wait on another 1/48 Gotha and in the meantime address my biscaler tendencies by building the petite Rareplanes kit. So, do you still want one?< I think, in that case, I'll pass on it. Thanks anyway. Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:25:59 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: Re: Flying Machines Press e-mail address Message-ID: <199705081635.LAA19557@sh1.ro.com> I don't have an e-mail address, but they do maintain a web site at . Or so it says on the publisher's page of the French Aircraft book. Eli Geher ---------- > From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Flying Machines Press e-mail address > Date: Thursday, May 08, 1997 8:30 AM > > Anyone? > I'm becoming impatient. > -- > Shelley and Riordan Goodwin > Visit our websites: > Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin > Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:26:08 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. Message-ID: <33727D30.FB6@sn.no> Alberto Rada wrote: > > It is indeed a HUMA of Germany, this kit is offered by Squadron > at $ 54.98 which is pricey without doubt , in my case conversion > is not all that difficult, as the wings are OK and the fuselage does > have some variants but not all that difficult, the only scratch to be > done is part of the tail fin and the rudder, and also the airscrews. > Please let me know what type of Wal did Amundsen's plane was > so I can try to help in the investigation. > The information I have available is about 3 articles of some 5 to 10 > pages each, including quite some photographs on the Do J Wal > and 3 way drawings in some unidentified scale and of which I can > not put my hand on their accuracy, by the way it's all in Spanish, > nevertheless if anyone is going to investigate this airplane this would > consist important material. > Needless to say that it is at the disposal of anyone on the list interested, > just send me your snail mail address and I will be more than glad to send > a photocopy of all the articles. > > SALUDOS > > ALBERTO > Amundsen's Wal was built at Marina di Pisa(Italy) in 1925, was powered by Rolls-Royce Eagles. Later, reengined with BMW engines and rename "The Amundsen Wal", it crossed the Atlantic in 44 hours in 1930,flying from Sylt(Germany) via the Faroes, Iceland, Greenland and Labrador to New York. So these pioneering Wals crossed both North and South Atlantic. However, Knut Erik Hagen, another Norwegian listmember assures me that documentation for the Amundsen Wal is easy to get here in Norway. If he's right, I need not bother anybody else on the list with this scheme. Forgive me for straying from the straight and narrow. Tom Werner Hansen. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:59:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Autumn Leaf Camouflage: Also: Re 1/32 N.24/27 Message-ID: Greetings! Joe: thanks for the info: I'll check out the Americal decal. Have you used the decal yourself? Just wondering. Another question: Anyone know where one might obtain 1/32 decals for French N.24(bis)/N.27 a/c? National Insignia are not the problem: it's a selection of alternative squadron or individual pilot markings I'm after. Does Americal offer anything along these lines, perchance? Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Autumn leaf decals Message-ID: Greetings: Thanks for the info, Charles. Joe also responded with this info. I've been planning on trying to do this by airbrush, but it does seem kind of tricky to get the right look. Have you seen the Americal ofering? I haven't. I know their nat'l insignia sheets, which are great, but I'm wondering about colors, application, etc. of this scheme re decals. I suppose I'll have to send for a sheet and look it over before I make up my mind exactly what method to use. Thanks again for the info. Regards. Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:11:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Fportier@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re : More Moranes Message-ID: <970508150736_-1632660318@emout15.mail.aol.com> Dear Matt, I thought I had sent an earlier message answering your query about Veterans 72. Certainly several Morane types were on offer: type BB, type P and type AC, all very good resin kits with metal parts but no decals. Veterans 72 is now defunct. The man behind it, Francois Lespes, has suffered a stroke, can no longer work and cannot be disturbed. I had started the idea and invented the name, but had to stop production because I'm allergic to resin emanations in the fusion state. I persuaded Francois to take over and helped him as much as I could but now we've had to call it a day. Finding these kits is going to be very difficult and I have none left. Joystick models (UK) are currently offering a nice Vacform type P with decals and metal parts. Contact Hannants. Best wishes Francois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:14:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info Message-ID: Greetings! Riordan: I'll be happy to lend you my copy of the Hannover datafile. Let me know where to send it, and you can copy what you need and return it to me when you're done. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:28:31 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: 1/32 N.24/27 Message-ID: >Greetings! Joe: thanks for the info: I'll check out the Americal decal. >Have you used the decal yourself? Just wondering. > Another question: Anyone know where one might obtain 1/32 decals for >French N.24(bis)/N.27 a/c? National Insignia are not the problem: it's a >selection of alternative squadron or individual pilot markings I'm after. >Does Americal offer anything along these lines, perchance? > Regards, Patrick Americal/Gryphon Sheet #64 Escadrille Lafayette , markings for 1/32 Nieuports #113 Escadrille 3, Ni-17 markings 1/32 #120 RFC No. 1 Sqdn. Ni-17 markings Each sheet is $12.50 plus postage Not exactly the Nieuport version you are interested in, but this is what is presently available. I'm not aware of any other aftermarket decals for the Hobbycraft Nieuport kit. Does any other list member know ?? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:35:30 -0700 From: thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) To: wwi Subject: Invisible thread / was Ceramic Wire Message-ID: John Huggins writes... >Subject: >Pedro, > I use the mono filiment also. I first drill #80 holes through the wing, (snip) >The stuff I use is made by Coats and Clarke and can be purchased in >sewing stores. it is called invisable thread and comes in clear and >smoked. It takes paint well and can be tightened with heat like sprue. This is the same stuff I am using for spokes in my spoked wheels for small flying models. I have also used it for rigging, though it is a bit small for the 13" span Demoiselle peanut scale mode I put it on. It is well behaved and seems to bond well with super glue. For size reference, it measures 0.0045-0.005 inches / 0.12-0.13 mm in diameter. 0.32-0.36" / 8.6-9.4 mm for 1/72 0.22-0.24"/ 5.8-6.2 mm for 1/48. To see some in "action", check out my web page. Thayer -- Thayer Syme Model Aviation Homepage San Francisco http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:35:35 -0700 From: thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic Wire Message-ID: Pedro Soares writes... >that's where things would go bad because since I used CA Gel the rim of >the hole would tend to get clogged in glue what would be readily >perceived as an imperfection on the wing. In fact, from looking at the >top wing on my models you can readilly tell where the holes were made I have an idea about this problem, at least with larger vacs. I have a 1/48 Felixstowe that I plan to start soon, and wonder, is there any merit in rigging the wings before the skins are sandwiched together? That is to say, the underside of the upper wing, to the top surface of the lower wing, and then "capping" the rigged structure with the other wing skins. This would alow continuous runs with monofilament, and if the spar structure were bonded to the surfaces before they were rigged, they might be stiff enough to avoid distortion. I know you would still have seams to deal with, but they are plenty accessable after the fact, and prefitting ought to eliminate most of the problems. What do you all think? Great idea? Terrible idea? Never been tried? That's the way it is always done? -- Thayer Syme Model Aviation Homepage San Francisco http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/32 N.24/27 Message-ID: Charles: thanks again. Man, you are fast on the draw! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 97 15:50:29 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. Message-ID: <199705081953.PAA02142@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Since there seem to be several of us on this thread, I hope the rest of the list can bear with us - but the Wal does have struts and props! Air Britain Archive ran a three part on the Italian-built Wals starting with issue 4, 1992. Dornier c/n 19, N-24, R-R Eagle IX engines, reinforced hull, abandoned on ice. Dornier c/n, r/n N-25, R-R Eagle IX engines,reinforced hull. Returned from Amundsen Polar flight, re-registered as G-EBQO, then to Germany as "Amudsen Wal" D-1422. Destroyed 1944 in bombing. Dornier c/n 23, "Plus Ultra" M-MWAL, Napier Lion V engines, noted as possibly still near Buenos Aires. The image reproduced of N-25 shows N25 on hull, Norwegian flag on rudder. Other details unreadable on my photocopy. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:58:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: More Moranes Message-ID: <970508155525_1356495261@emout10.mail.aol.com> Matt Morane BB - was Vacform by Eastern Star of UK Mold was made by Joe Chubbic or Les Cooper Long gone , no idea were the mold is - owner disapeared Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 13:06:38 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info Message-ID: <3372324E.379B@ricochet.net> Patrick Padovan wrote: > > Greetings! Riordan: I'll be happy to lend you my copy of the Hannover > datafile. Let me know where to send it, and you can copy what you need and > return it to me when you're done. > Regards, Patrick > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Padovan > Interlibrary Loan Associate > > Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 > 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 > Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick, Joe G. has already volunteered to copy the stuff. Thanks a lot. You don't by any chance have the Albatros Fighters special? I have the Pfalz D.III, SVA.5, AEG G.III & Gotha Datafiles and copies of several others. If there's anything you're interested in that the library might have, just let me know. Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 13:09:36 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: <33723300.5987@ricochet.net> ModelerAl@aol.com wrote: > > << >>Since my copy of the huge Flying Machines French book came > >>yesterday, I was perusing the Morane Saulnier section, and came > >>up with the following, in 1/72nd: > >> > >>Type BB: Eastern Models Vacuform > >>Type I: Temens Injected > >>Type G: Roseplane Resin > >>Type L: 12 Squared Injected > >> > >>Does anybody know if any of the other types have been kitted, and > >>by whom? Plus, if anybody knows of other sources for the above, > >>please let me know, as well. > >> >> > > Revell once made an injection molded Morane Saulnier N in 1/72 Is the Eduard Type N still in production? -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Swapping/Mooching for Datafile (#23) info Message-ID: Greetings! Riordan: Yes, I do have the Albatros Fighters special. I'll be happy to lend it to you to copy. Send your mailing address to me on this list, or on my e-mail, shown below, or mail it to me at the address below, and I'll send it off to you. I am interested in the SVA datafile, but I think I'll wait until I'm actually getting started on the kit before I ask you for the loan of it. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:36:39 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: >ModelerAl@aol.com wrote: >> >> << >>Since my copy of the huge Flying Machines French book came >> >>yesterday, I was perusing the Morane Saulnier section, and came >> >>up with the following, in 1/72nd: >> >> >> >>Type BB: Eastern Models Vacuform >> >>Type I: Temens Injected >> >>Type G: Roseplane Resin >> >>Type L: 12 Squared Injected >> >> >> >>Does anybody know if any of the other types have been kitted, and >> >>by whom? Plus, if anybody knows of other sources for the above, >> >>please let me know, as well. >> >> >> >> >> Revell once made an injection molded Morane Saulnier N in 1/72 > >Is the Eduard Type N still in production? >-- >Shelley and Riordan Goodwin >Visit our websites: >Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin >Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com Am I mistaken or are the Eduard kits produced as one shot deals ? I had heard that they made up all the bits, plastic, PE etc, packaged them all up and shipped them out. The Fokker E-III and SSW D-III were the first of the 1/48 line and sold out. Subsequently they were unavailable for a time, started gathering "collector's" value, but now are back as a second production run. Perhaps this means that the MS Type N only had one run and what's on the shelf is basically what will be available ? If someone out there has some better information on this, I would like to find out. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:02:26 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: <199705081702_MC2-1637-8FA6@compuserve.com> riordan wrote: >>> >> << >>Since my copy of the huge Flying Machines French book came >> .>>yesterday, I was perusing the Morane Saulnier section, and came >> >>up with the following, in 1/72nd: .>> >> >>Type BB: Eastern Models Vacuform >> >>Type I: Temens Injected >> >>Type G: Roseplane Resin >> >>Type L: 12 Squared Injected >> >> >> >>Does anybody know if any of the other types have been kitted, and >> >>by whom? Plus, if anybody knows of other sources for the above, >> >>please let me know, as well. >> >> >> >> >> Revell once made an injection molded Morane Saulnier N in 1/72 >Is the Eduard Type N still in production? -- >Shelley and Riordan Goodwin< It's still listed by Hannants @ 11.95 GBP Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:23:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Flying Machines Press e-mail address Message-ID: <970508153806_574468621@emout06.mail.aol.com> Hi Riordan FMP has no E-mail that I know of. Heres The FAX # 203 380-1849 Cheers Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:25:42 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Spain Message-ID: <199705082225.SAA19260@fw.true.net> Thanks Mark, I'll look into it SALUDOS ALBERTO At 09:29 AM 08-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Alberto asks: > >>I need some infor on a Spanish Aircraft >> >>SALUDOS >> >>ALBERTO > >Although I've since read the rest of this thread and know you're looking for >something different, there is some interesting info. on 1914-18 Spanish >built aircraft in Janes Fighting Aircraft of WWI, pages 218 - 220. > >Mark > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:27:55 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Medals Etc. Message-ID: <199705082227.SAA19390@fw.true.net> Carlos I have sent a letter asking for their catalog, but would very much appreciate, as it looks that you have traveled this road more than the rest of us, if you could email a list of Eagles WW1 medals, pins and badges, their prices and if possible a comparison with Der Dienst quality wise My personal gratitude debt with you is getting close to our national debt figures. SALUDOS ALBERTO At 09:31 AM 08-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >David & Joey, > Company of Eagles offers a one-sided Blue Max with ribbon and oak >leaves for $24.95; it is also available wth only a chain (16 or 18 in.) >for $14.95. I have one of these (I think--I don't remember my source) >and can say it looks OK. OTOH, Der Dienst offers a two-sided BM with >ribbon for $37.50; available also are one-sided BMs with and without oak >leaves for $19.50 and $24.50, respectively. I've seen one of these and >it might be a little nicer than the one from Eagles, but I haven't >compared them side by side. Both operations carry a DFC (which I suspect >may come from the same manufacturer), Eagles' for $13.95 and DD's for >$19.50; I believe these are one-sided. > Carlos > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:46:48 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Invisible thread / was Ceramic Wire Message-ID: <199705082246.SAA20366@fw.true.net> At 03:39 PM 08-05-97 -0400, you wrote: I have seen your free flight models in your page, They look superb. Two questions: What material do you use to cover the wings, I bought some Maquette models from France, they are mainly photoetch and a few Metal parts, and they include a paper tissue that does not look at All convincing. Do you use normal transfers ? SALUDOS ALBERTO >This is the same stuff I am using for spokes in my spoked wheels for small >flying models. I have also used it for rigging, though it is a bit small >for the 13" span Demoiselle peanut scale mode I put it on. It is well >behaved and seems to bond well with super glue. > >For size reference, it measures 0.0045-0.005 inches / 0.12-0.13 mm in >diameter. >0.32-0.36" / 8.6-9.4 mm for 1/72 >0.22-0.24"/ 5.8-6.2 mm for 1/48. > >To see some in "action", check out my web page. > >Thayer > >-- > >Thayer Syme Model Aviation Homepage >San Francisco http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 533 *********************