WWI Digest 531 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: The scale debate continues! by Mick Fauchon 2) Re: by Tom Eisenhour 3) Re: Moranes by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 4) Re: Newbie still by Kevin Wenker 5) Re: Ceramic Wire by Kevin Wenker 6) Re: The scale debate continues! by Kevin Wenker 7) Modelling magazine(s) by "Joseph Gentile" 8) Re: Ceramic Wire by aew (Allan Wright) 9) Roland CII by Pedro Soares 10) Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. by Brian Nicklas 11) Re: Ceramic Wire by Pedro Soares 12) Re: Strut Stock by Jack Berlien 13) Re: Moranes by "Stuart L. Malone" 14) Re: Polyurethane Foam by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 15) Re: Polyurethane Foam by Pedro Soares 16) Re: Polyurethane Foam by aew (Allan Wright) 17) Re: Polyurethane Foam by Pedro Soares 18) Re: Polyurethane Foam by Kevin Wenker 19) Re: Roland CII by Bill Bacon 20) Re: Roland CII by Pedro Soares 21) Re: Moranes by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 22) Re: Roland CII by Bill Bacon 23) Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 24) Re: Roland CII by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 25) Re: Tiny Tools & Drills by "Brian Bushe" 26) Re: Roland CII by Pedro Soares ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:18:32 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The scale debate continues! Message-ID: Jesse, > Judeo-Christian theology, while divergent at many points, agree on this > also. We are also reminded that we are all members of one body, which, however, consists of many parts. St. Paul admonishes us to bear with one another, on which we are also agreed. There were 12 tribes of Israel and 12 Apostles. There are 4 > corners of the earth. ...as there are 4 Gospels, and consequently 4 Evangelists. However...... > > The One True Faith is 48 scale. > Amen to that, Brother! 80) BTW, I had no idea you were a theologian. 80) Cheers, Mick. Disclaimer: As something of a theologian myself, the foregoing implies no disrespect whatever to anyone of any confession. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 07:11:11 -0700 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Message-ID: <33708D7F.3E3B@swbell.net> Hey Mick good to have you back! Or have you been here the whole time and just lurking? Nah, that'd be impossible. ;-) Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 07:39:11 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: <1997May07.053730.1155.1536773@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Matt, the 1/48 injected Morane is actually an 'H' not a 'G' as on the bag label. It makes into a nice model with some work. My wife called me at work yesterday saying I had a box in the mail - so I eagerly drove home just knowing I'd be on the couch all night reading about French aircraft - well it turned out to be a pair of shoes I had returned to the manufacturer! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:33:56 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Newbie still Message-ID: <3370A0E4.AAE@interaccess.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > > > At 01:05 PM 5/6/97 -0400, JimAlley@aol.com wrote: > > Seriously, what's > > >available? What do you all use? What do they cost? Where do you find > > >them? I have trouble imagining using a clunky, two-handed drill on such a > > >tiny and delicate object. > > > > > >I'd appreciate any advice. > Bill and the others have ansewered this thoroughly - I'm not sure where > you're based Jim, but in the UK, Beatties stores sell a whole range of > these. > One refinement; sometimes the finest drill bits are difficult to position > absolutely exactly - I'm thinking here of drilling out the business end of > a gun barrel for example - and its too easy to be slightly off-centre. I > usually start a guide hole using a surgical syringe needle. These things > have a razor sharp angled cutting tip and allow extreme precision. Once > the initial hole is started, then use the pin-vice. > (Good to have hospital contacts unless you want to be taken for a junkie > though!) > FWIW. > Sandy Great tip (excuse the unintended pun), Sandy. I never would have thought of that and my wife is an RN. Guess I'll make her my supplier. Thanks Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:42:39 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic Wire Message-ID: <3370A2EF.5D22@interaccess.com> Pedro Soares wrote: > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > > > > Guys, guys, what's nylon monofilament for then? > > Hi Jose > > I too have used monofilament a couple of times but i'm not yet > satisfied with the methods I've tried to anchor it. How do you do it? > > Pedro The only thing I use anymore is mono - flyfishing tippet material - it is much softer than regular bait fishing mono. I drill a small pilot hole and anchor it with super glue. And, I've also used foam insulation - it glues ANYTHING to anything. Spray a little out, mush it down to get the air out, dip the end of the mono and place it where you want it. Dires real quick and it will not tear. Be sure and use disposable plates and popsicle sticks to mush and so forth - you cannot get it off of anything it gets on. One nice feature, especially in 1/48, is that if you coat the mono oh, say 2 mm or so, when it dries it will expand slightly - so when its painted it looks like a turnbuckle. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:46:06 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: The scale debate continues! Message-ID: <3370A3BE.3FBD@interaccess.com> Mick Fauchon wrote: > > Jesse, > > > Judeo-Christian theology, while divergent at many points, agree on this > > also. > > We are also reminded that we are all members of one body, which, > however, consists of many parts. St. Paul admonishes us to bear with > one another, on which we are also agreed. > > There were 12 tribes of Israel and > 12 Apostles. There are 4 > > corners of the earth. > > ...as there are 4 Gospels, and consequently 4 Evangelists. > > However...... > > > > The One True Faith is 48 scale. > > > > Amen to that, Brother! 80) > > BTW, I had no idea you were a theologian. 80) > > Cheers, > > Mick. > > Disclaimer: As something of a theologian myself, the foregoing > implies no disrespect whatever to anyone of any confession. > > -- -- > Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au > Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 > University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 > > MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM > M M > M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M > M M > M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M > M M > MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM That wasn't Jess, that was me (Kevin W.) - I have a Master's in theology from Concordia Theological Seminary (Lutheran). Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 08:42:56 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: "WWI Mail list" Subject: Modelling magazine(s) Message-ID: <199705071348.IAA28937@Walden.MO.NET> I am letting my subscription to FSM expire. Although there are still some sound generic suggestions that apply to the hobby in general it is mediocre at best. I am hooked up with OTF, Windsock, and am considering WWI Aero. I am also thinking about either Scale Aircraft Modelling, Scale Aviation Modeller or Scale Models International. I think these publications are generated from the UK and are available through Wise Owl in California. Is any one magazine better than the other in covering WWI materials? TIA Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic Wire Message-ID: <199705071346.JAA29647@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > The only thing I use anymore is mono - flyfishing tippet material - it > is much softer than regular bait fishing mono. I drill a small pilot > hole and anchor it with super glue. And, I've also used foam insulation > - it glues ANYTHING to anything. Spray a little out, mush it down to > get the air out, dip the end of the mono and place it where you want it. > Dires real quick and it will not tear. Be sure and use disposable > plates and popsicle sticks to mush and so forth - you cannot get it off > of anything it gets on. One nice feature, especially in 1/48, is that > if you coat the mono oh, say 2 mm or so, when it dries it will expand > slightly - so when its painted it looks like a turnbuckle. I've heard of using this 'foam insulation' which is actually some sort of polyurethane foam for filling Vac fuselages to add structure, now a second use - time to get some. One thing I've heard is that modelers REALLY want to get the NON-expanding type, which in our scale still expands some (5-10%). Too bad we couldn't get this stuff in a liquid, non-aresol formula! It is really sticky stuff. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 14:40:21 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Roland CII Message-ID: <33707835.332D@anaep.pt> Hi guys, As you know from previous postings this recent convert to the joys of eye crossing rigging (but still addicted to instructionless erection) is planing another go into the realms of WW1 aircraft modeling. This time it'll be the Roland CII and again Matt Bitner was the best of friends and willingly sent me a bunch of documentation that will help a lot. What I am lacking still is a copy of the colour sideviews that according to Matt can be found in the old "Profile" publication on the type, since it seems that one of the schemes depicted is an example of the famous fish-scale finish that was applied to some Rollands, which I might be tempted to replicate. So guys, if any of you has access to the "profile" could anyone send me a photocopy of the side views page - specifically of the fish scale scheme. Colour would be grand but B&W would also do it, provided you'd tell me what colour would the shades of grey be... Costs on me of course. Thanks in advance Pedro P.S. Alberto, gostei de ver. Muito obrigado para ti tambem. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 97 09:57:29 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. Message-ID: <199705071400.KAA29769@pease1.sr.unh.edu> The Dornier Wal kit in question is from HUMA of Germany. It is a Dornier J II Wal (8 ton). It dates from about 1930, so Amundsen's plane would have to be modified from the kit as his was an earlier type. The wing might be good, but the tail would have to be new, and most of the fuselage re-arranged. BTW, if anyone is building this kit "staright", don't use the provided canopy as this only went on 10 ton Wals. To do that, you'd have to increase the span of the wings and add more struts at the sponsons. I think the earlier J Wals were much more slab-sided than the J II Wals. The Huma kit is nice, albeit pricey. I got mine thru Squadron Mail Order. Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 14:54:03 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic Wire Message-ID: <33707B6B.1FF3@anaep.pt> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > > > The only thing I use anymore is mono - flyfishing tippet material - it > is much softer than regular bait fishing mono. Forgive my asking Kevin, but what's tippet? I looked in the dictionary but all I could find was " a small cape or collar of fur with the ends hanging down in front" and that shouldn't really be it, right? Is tippet a special sort of mono specially conceived to make your own fishing lures? I drill a small pilot > hole and anchor it with super glue. And, I've also used foam insulation > - it glues ANYTHING to anything. Is that polyurethane foam? the kind that expands a lot after spraying? TIA pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:14:17 -0700 From: Jack Berlien To: wwi Subject: Re: Strut Stock Message-ID: Thanks, everyone, for all the info on strut stock! I'll plan to try the Strutz. Best regards, Jack ------------------ Original text From: Geoff Smith , on 5/7/97 6:53 AM: Matt wrote: >>On Tue, 6 May 1997 17:21:25 -0400 Jack Berlien > writes: >> I occasionally hear mention of strut stock (Contrel? Contrail?). >> Can this be used, say, to replace the oversize cabane struts on >> a Camel kit? What are the sources for them? How do you specify. >> the size? Are they all the same shape? >A package of Contrail strut stock has many sizes. Their all the >same general shape - an airfoil cross section - but the widths >and thicknesses varies. Perfect for almost all scales. >Also be aware of stuff Aeroclub (is this correct?) puts out >called Strutz!. It's brass, and I have heard that there isn't a >lot of smaller stuff for 1/72nd, but for overall strength it's >supposed to be grand. I can't imagine building a large >two-seater or bomber without it - especially the Contrail >Staaken. >Matt >mbittner@juno.com< Strutz comes in a pack containing twelve lengths (two of each size) plus one length of steel wire and one of copper. All are 210mm long roughly. Sizes are :1.8 x 1.1mm, 1.4 x 0.8, 1.2 x 0.7, 0.9 x 0.4, 0.7 x 0.5, 0.6 x 0.4. Cost is 4.50 GBP or to you, Matt, 200 GBP cos I now need a new pair of specs. Regards Geoff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:15:09 +0000 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970507091506.0068fa18@swbell.net> At 07:50 AM 5/7/97 -0400, you wrote: >Since my copy of the huge Flying Machines French book came >yesterday, I was perusing the Morane Saulnier section, and came >up with the following, in 1/72nd: > >Type BB: Eastern Models Vacuform >Type I: Temens Injected >Type G: Roseplane Resin >Type L: 12 Squared Injected > >Does anybody know if any of the other types have been kitted, and >by whom? Plus, if anybody knows of other sources for the above, >please let me know, as well. > >Matt >mbittner@juno.com > A few years back, Formaplane made the late war parasol (I beleieve MS A1?). I built the thing, and it was a nightmare getting the wing level, what with the funky strut layout. I never did finish it. I couldn't find a decent reference on color schemes. The kit went together quite nicely, but have no idea how dimensionally accurate it is. Also, the pittance of a cockpit left much to be desired (as usual). Is there any info on this beast in the new French A/C tome? Zatim Nashledanou, Stuart L. Malone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:18:18 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Message-ID: <1997May07.071641.1155.1537282@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Does anyone recommend a brand name for polyurethane foam and what's the technique for filling a fuselage without blowing the material out the seams? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:19:34 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Message-ID: <33708166.4F14@anaep.pt> Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > > Does anyone recommend a brand name for polyurethane foam and what's the > technique for filling a fuselage > without blowing the material out the seams? Charles I think there was an article in FSM (or was it Scale Models Intn'l) some years ago dealing with polyurethane and vacs. If I do recall correctly the trick was to have a hole somewhere to allow excess foam to come trough. If you're interested I can look up the article and copy it to you. HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 10:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Message-ID: <199705071433.KAA00106@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Does anyone recommend a brand name for polyurethane foam and what's the > technique for filling a fuselage > without blowing the material out the seams? There was a FSM that documented this (I think it was about a guy that made custom submarine models) I'll try to get the article out of my 'stacks' and post the pertinant info. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:29:18 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Message-ID: <337083AE.4E0E@anaep.pt> Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > > Does anyone recommend a brand name for polyurethane foam and what's the > technique for filling a fuselage > without blowing the material out the seams? Charles, Further to my previous posting, a peep into FSM site allowed me to get the data on the article I mentioned: it was published in the March 89 issue, on page 30. If you want I can send you some photocopies. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:56:11 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Message-ID: <3370B42B.35B5@interaccess.com> Pedro Soares wrote: > > Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > > > > Does anyone recommend a brand name for polyurethane foam and what's the > > technique for filling a fuselage > > without blowing the material out the seams? > > Charles, > > Further to my previous posting, a peep into FSM site allowed me to get > the data on the article I mentioned: it was published in the March 89 > issue, on page 30. > > If you want I can send you some photocopies. > > Pedro A couple BEWARES with this stuff. First, it WONT COME OFF ANYTHING. Be real careful what it gets on. Second, using it in a fuselage is tricky. Case in point as an example: I was building a 1/96 Perry frigate (That's a modern ship for those who may be wondering which side this flew for in the Great War and if I've deserted the ranks of the True Scale) with a fiberglass hull and plexiglass deck. I put the poly foam in the bow for flotattion (it WAS an R/C job). I had holes cut in the deck. It still expanded so far and fast that it blew the hull out - a fiberglass hull!! Looked rather a bit like the Stark after that exocet hit her a few years ago. So, take care in using it. Prperly done, it's fine. But, just a little too much and that 1/72 scale fuse will end up 1/48 scale. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:58:30 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland CII Message-ID: <33709896.2792@netjava.net> Pedro, In return for your snail mail address, I'll copy the whole profile and send it to you. Sorry I can't provide color. Cheers, Bill B. Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net Pedro Soares wrote: > > Hi guys, > > As you know from previous postings this recent convert to the joys of > eye crossing rigging (but still addicted to instructionless erection) is > planing another go into the realms of WW1 aircraft modeling. This time > it'll be the Roland CII and again Matt Bitner was the best of friends > and willingly sent me a bunch of documentation that will help a lot. > What I am lacking still is a copy of the colour sideviews that according > to Matt can be found in the old "Profile" publication on the type, since > it seems that one of the schemes depicted is an example of the famous > fish-scale finish that was applied to some Rollands, which I might be > tempted to replicate. > > So guys, if any of you has access to the "profile" could anyone send me > a photocopy of the side views page - specifically of the fish scale > scheme. Colour would be grand but B&W would also do it, provided you'd > tell me what colour would the shades of grey be... > > Costs on me of course. > > Thanks in advance > > Pedro > > P.S. > > Alberto, gostei de ver. Muito obrigado para ti tambem. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:13:06 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland CII Message-ID: <33708DF2.2A42@anaep.pt> Bill Bacon wrote: > > Pedro, > > In return for your snail mail address, I'll copy the whole profile and > send it to you. Sorry I can't provide color. > > Cheers, > > Bill B. > > Bill Bacon > wbacon@netjava.net > > Thanks a lot Bill. Great Help. The colour issue is also taken care off since Jesse Thorn e-mailed me a while ago and he said he would scan the colour side views and put them at his web site. My address is: Pedro Soares R. Bernardo Santareno, 4, 3Dto 2810 Feijo Portugal Let me also know your snail mail address so that I can send you a couple of International replly cuppons to catter for the postage. I have to say it again: people on this list are super. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:28:52 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Moranes Message-ID: >At 07:50 AM 5/7/97 -0400, you wrote: >>Since my copy of the huge Flying Machines French book came >>yesterday, I was perusing the Morane Saulnier section, and came >>up with the following, in 1/72nd: >> >>Type BB: Eastern Models Vacuform >>Type I: Temens Injected >>Type G: Roseplane Resin >>Type L: 12 Squared Injected >> >>Does anybody know if any of the other types have been kitted, and >>by whom? Plus, if anybody knows of other sources for the above, >>please let me know, as well. >> >>Matt >>mbittner@juno.com >> > > >A few years back, Formaplane made the late war parasol (I beleieve MS A1?). > I built the thing, and it >was a nightmare getting the wing level, what with the funky strut layout. >I never did finish it. I couldn't >find a decent reference on color schemes. The kit went together quite >nicely, but have no idea how dimensionally >accurate it is. Also, the pittance of a cockpit left much to be desired >(as usual). > >Is there any info on this beast in the new French A/C tome? > > > > Zatim Nashledanou, > Stuart L. Malone There is always the Windsock "Mini" (size not price) Datafile on the MS type AI as a source of drawings for this a/c. I seem to recall seeing these machines in the French 5-color painted camouflage scheme. FWIW the French cottage kit maker Veterans 72 made a couple of Morane kits. Francois will know better than I off the top of his head which types they kitted. I believe he has built all of them. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 10:33:06 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland CII Message-ID: <3370A0B2.3E1@netjava.net> Pedro Soares wrote: > > Bill Bacon wrote: > > > > Pedro, > > > > In return for your snail mail address, I'll copy the whole profile and > > send it to you. Sorry I can't provide color. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bill B. > > > > Bill Bacon > > wbacon@netjava.net > > > > > > Thanks a lot Bill. Great Help. The colour issue is also taken care off > since Jesse Thorn e-mailed me a while ago and he said he would scan the > colour side views and put them at his web site. > > My address is: > > Pedro Soares > R. Bernardo Santareno, 4, 3Dto > 2810 Feijo > Portugal > > Let me also know your snail mail address so that I can send you a couple > of International replly cuppons to catter for the postage. > > I have to say it again: people on this list are super. > > Pedro Pedro, Will have it in the mail first of next week. I agree with your assessment of the list members. It is a wonderful group and I feel fortunate to be a member. Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:36:53 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Dornier Wal - slightly off topic. Message-ID: <3370A195.5D22@ricochet.net> Brian Nicklas wrote: > > The Dornier Wal kit in question is from HUMA of Germany. > It is a Dornier J II Wal (8 ton). It dates from about 1930, so > Amundsen's plane would have to be modified from the kit as his was > an earlier type. The wing might be good, but the tail would have > to be new, and most of the fuselage re-arranged. BTW, if anyone > is building this kit "staright", don't use the provided canopy as > this only went on 10 ton Wals. To do that, you'd have to increase the > span of the wings and add more struts at the sponsons. > I think the earlier J Wals were much more slab-sided than the > J II Wals. > The Huma kit is nice, albeit pricey. I got mine thru Squadron Mail Order. > Brian Nicklas How much? -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:39:11 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland CII Message-ID: <3370A21F.2636@ricochet.net> Pedro Soares wrote: > > Hi guys, > > As you know from previous postings this recent convert to the joys of > eye crossing rigging (but still addicted to instructionless erection) is > planing another go into the realms of WW1 aircraft modeling. This time > it'll be the Roland CII and again Matt Bitner was the best of friends > and willingly sent me a bunch of documentation that will help a lot. > What I am lacking still is a copy of the colour sideviews that according > to Matt can be found in the old "Profile" publication on the type, since > it seems that one of the schemes depicted is an example of the famous > fish-scale finish that was applied to some Rollands, which I might be > tempted to replicate. > > So guys, if any of you has access to the "profile" could anyone send me > a photocopy of the side views page - specifically of the fish scale > scheme. Colour would be grand but B&W would also do it, provided you'd > tell me what colour would the shades of grey be... > > Costs on me of course. > > Thanks in advance > > Pedro > > P.S. > > Alberto, gostei de ver. Muito obrigado para ti tambem. Pedro, I have the Profile. Post your address and I'll send you the whole thing. Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:43:41 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: Tiny Tools & Drills Message-ID: <199705071546.QAA22727@itl.net> Just to second that for Micro Mark. They do efficient mail order to the UK and their catalogue is a small treasure trove. If you order any of the 'special' offers from FSM make sure you point out that you saw the FSM ads. Brian (no, a different one). re: Tiny Tools & Drills > For small tools and "stuff" for modelling, > try Micro Mark in New Jersey, USA. They advertise > every month in Finescale Modeler and have a nice catalog. > I just purchased an "itty-bitty" drill set from them > that was on sale for something around $10.00. > They do ship overseas. > I had a problem with one tool in the past being defective, > and I sent it back. I got a replacement within a week, plus > a check for the postage on my return. Good customer service. > Lotsa tools that are good for tiny models. > Micro Mark, 340-2235 Snyder Avenue, Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922 > 1-800-225-1066 (outside US 1-908-464-6764) > Somethings they have are targeted to model railroaders or > ship builders, but they seem great for biplanes... > Brian > > 'My mind is going. There is no question of it' - Hal 9000 Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems Fieldhouse Lane (44) 01628 476 500 Marlow Fax 01628 475 522 Buckinghamshire SL7 1LU England ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:46:29 +0200 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland CII Message-ID: <337095C5.41AC@anaep.pt> Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: > > > Pedro, > I have the Profile. Post your address and I'll send you the whole thing. > Riordan Riordan, Thanks a lot, but Bill Bacon has already volunteered to do that. Muito Obrigado, anyway. Pedro ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 531 *********************