WWI Digest 523 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Scottish Nationals/ Lone Voice by Shane Weier 2) My lost identity by "Mark Alan Johnson" 3) Signing Off - Temporarily by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 4) Re: Waldo Resin Brisfit & Dolphin? by Alberto Rada 5) Re: Take me off this f.... list by Geoff Smith 6) Re: Ceramic wire by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 7) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by "Erik" 8) Jacobs article by Geoff Smith 9) Re: Cross Modeling by The Shannons 10) Re: Jacobs article by "Joseph Gentile" 11) Re: Niueport 17C.1 markings by Kevin Wenker 12) Re: WHAT I WANT: Merlin by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 13) Re: Ceramic wire by "S.M.Sundberg" 14) Re: Osterkamp's Fokker D.VIII by DavidL1217@aol.com 15) Re: On meeting listmembers by DavidL1217@aol.com 16) Re: Niueport 17C.1 markings by Bill Bacon 17) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 19) Re: Cross Modeling by lothar@televar.com (mark) 20) Re: Cross Modeling: Another Out-Of-The-Closet by lothar@televar.com (mark) 21) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 22) Polite Request by Sandy Adam 23) Sea Eagle Fokker DVIII by Sandy Adam 24) Jacobs article by Geoff Smith 25) Re: Cross Modeling: Another Out-Of-The-Closet by Alberto Rada 26) Re: On meeting listmembers by "Joseph Gentile" 27) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by "Joseph Gentile" 28) Hat 1/72 WWI figures by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 29) Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 30) Tom's Pfalz D.VIII by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 31) Re: Cross Modeling by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 32) Re: Polite Request by aew (Allan Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 07:32:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Scottish Nationals/ Lone Voice Message-ID: Geoff > Yeah and TV programs and films we can't get! Bloody colonials - give >'em >independence and they start telling you all the things they have that you >haven't. Like cricketers who can play? Shane nb Biff, Alb.W4 and Fokker D.VIII (DML) nl Some music from Austin TX nu Ahhh, no, not entering THAT thread ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:48:41 CDT From: "Mark Alan Johnson" To: wwi Subject: My lost identity Message-ID: Everyone, I have sent 2 messages to the list that have been printed and neither one has had my name on it. Am I truly someone else and don't know it? Mark Johnson Hot Springs, AR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:52:16 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Signing Off - Temporarily Message-ID: <199705012159.QAA07927@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> As I am taking next week off, and I don't want to be accosted (killed!) by our MIS department on my return for using up all the e-mail disk space, I will be temporarily unsubscribing from the list at about 4:30 CDT (21:30 GMT) on this Friday. Should anyone want to reply to any of my information requests, please post them directly to my e-mail address: pauls@transcrypt.com. I will be re-subscribing on the morning of May 12. Gonna miss accessing this list next week :-{ (Please, no jokes about unsubscribing--that's been overdone already) Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:04:58 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Waldo Resin Brisfit & Dolphin? Message-ID: <199705012204.SAA06638@fw.true.net> I have read some not so good comments on these kits, Can any one please give a review on them. On that other matter. . . Isn't it terrible how a single asshole can muddle this nice and quite part of the internet country side ? SALUDOS ALBERTO At 10:05 AM 01-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Jesse, > >Rollmodels and Sopwith both had the Waldo W.29. I would assume that they >should be able to get their hands on the bif and dolphin as well. > >Joe > >---------- >> From: Jesse Thorn >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Waldo Resin Brisfit & Dolphin? >> Date: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 11:16 PM >> >> Has anyone seen either of these kits? They are 1/48th scale resin kits >from >> a fellow in England. >> >> Does anyone know of a US supplier? >> >> Thanks, >> --Jesse >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:04:57 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Take me off this f.... list Message-ID: <199705011804_MC2-15C6-5F6B@compuserve.com> Tony Hawkins wrote: >(SNIP). A polite message would suffice. (SNIP)< In defence of all members of this list, wherever: Quite Geoff. British and (usually) proud of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:33:37 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic wire Message-ID: <1997May01.152538.1155.1522374@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Tom asked about ceramic wire procedures, I am by no means an expert but I use both a mix of fishing line and ceramic wire to rig with; in using the ceramic wire I first use a dividers to determine the exact distance between the two points. I then have a piece of drafting tape on a sheet of glass and mark the two points on the tape as reference. Then take the wire and cut with a single edge razor blade, holding the wire down with a finger so it doesn't go flying off into the next room or your eye. I then have a small puddle of ACC glue on another piece of tape (on the same glass but away from my hand as to not glue the glass to my palm). Take a tweezers dip both ends of the wire in the ACC so to form a small drop on the ends and set in place. Hope this helps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 15:31:02 +0000 From: "Erik" To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: <199705012234.PAA04041@glinda.oz.net> On 1 May 97, Jesse Thorn heroically postulated: > >array of color schemes. . .so, what's the beef? Is it because you walk > >into a model shop and find twenty-six new Bf 109 kits and nada WWI kit?Is > >there, as I only suspect having never attended one myself, about a > Not to speak for Matt (who has just left for the weekend), but I believe the feeling here (which I share heartily) is that the Bf- Crappy'09 is ridiculously over-produced by Model Manufacturers, and equally over-Hero-worshipped by builders (thus, one begets the other, no doubt...). The aversion to this subject is a simple lament that companies will forever pander to such lucrative motives, and always ignore more 'enlightened' and interesting machines. I mean, the 109, yes, was a significant aircraft, but no more so than, say, the SPAD VII. And how many SPAD 7 kits are there? In the Master Scale, only a shamefully anaemic 25-year-old Airfix mold with more problems than Catholic School girl at a Boy Scout retreat. I can't even think of any others, in any scale. So, this is the shame-- every stupid company makes endless versions of the Nazi-o-nine, and no one a proper SPAD VII.... It's all too sad, really.... And, if we expand this line of thought further, still, it becomes more and more disappointing. Availiable variants: every conceivable permutation of 109; available, say, Nieuport variants (-17bis, -24, -24bis, -27, etc, etc): none. Not even one.... :^( > The last few model shows I have attended each had 10+ 1/48 Bf 109s. This is > without a doubt the most widely modelled aircraft of any era. > Agreed. The last show I attended featured about 45-50 1/72 scale "Single-Engined, WWII" entries (as per the category); fully 37 of them were Messerschmulz's.... ...Such a shame.... Cheers, Erik ........................................................................ "Mr.Anchovy, perhaps you could move *towards* 'Lion Taming' via Banking, or even Insurance?..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:43:27 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Jacobs article Message-ID: <199705011845_MC2-15CE-C22F@compuserve.com> >Copies of the C&C Jacobs article are now in the hands of the US Postal service. Enjoy them! Geoff, any chance of getting a Hannant's catalog? Sorry to eat up bandwidth folks. Joe< Can do. Anything you particularly need to know right now, I've got mine to hand at all times. Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:51:04 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Cross Modeling Message-ID: <33691E58.2513@ix.netcom.com> Bob Sasak wrote: > Hi, my name's Bob and I'm a cross modeller. > > In the spirit of coming out, I must admit I have built models other than > WWI. <<<<<>>>> > models, a *1/72* Sopwith Pub, a *1/72* Sopwith Schnieder, and a *1/72* ^^^^^^^^^^^ > Fokker D1. > > I am truly embarrassed for working in 1/72. > > Bob -- I didn't know that Tommy got one of those to fly. Could have eased the pilot's stress in tight combat to knock back a couple of pints of Bitter. Or, oh, did this really mean you had visited your local before reading your newsgroups? -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:13:20 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Jacobs article Message-ID: <199705012317.SAA01139@Walden.MO.NET> > Can do. Anything you particularly need to know right now, I've got mine to > hand at all times. > > Geoff Not really, I'm just always looking for new ways to spend money. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 18:19:11 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Niueport 17C.1 markings Message-ID: <336924EF.4892@interaccess.com> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > I am in the process of researching the markings that came with the ESCI > 1:72 kit of the Ni.17C.1. If I'm going to the trouble of following > M.Bittner's rebuild of the kit, I'm damned if I'm going to find out > afterwards that the markings that came with the kit actually went on > Nungesser's Nieuport 17bis. Does anybody know if the markings are > appropriate to Nungesser's earlier Ni.17? If I interpret J.Bruce's > article in Air Enthusiast ???? correctly, Nungesser flew the Ni.17bis > when he shot down the British airman who attacked him. That would mean > that at least the diagonal stripes on the top wing would not have been > painted on his Ni.17. > Also I would hate to have somebody point out to me later that "of > course, you know,old chap, that the serial number of Nungesser's > Nieuport was N 1895, and not N 189one! Actually they were all N 1985, > some sort of hang-up of his, I expect." > See what you guys have made me do. Two months ago I wouldn't have given > a hoot. > So, should I put the decals in the spares box, in the hope that I will > one day convert a 17 into a 17bis, and look for some nice aftermarket > decals? Please advice. > Unrelated question: > I see that some listmembers are trying out ceramic wire. Please inform > the rest of us on the results, tips on technique etc. > > Tom Werner Hansen I did Nungesser's N17 (#1490) per the picture in the Datafile. It had green and brown camo with a light blue cone' de penetration. Vickers on the fuselage and Lewis on the wing. I did mine from the 1/48 kit. Scratchbuild a new upper wing as well as elevator and rudder. Got a full cockpit using Tom's etchings. I was real pleased with it. Hope that helps. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:58:20 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: Merlin Message-ID: <33693C2C.7EC0@ricochet.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > >I've seen at a couple of local robbery shops, one of which has great > >selection but they're chiseling to pay for mall space (I'm willing to > >give them the BOTD.) I'll say 32 clams is excessive! They also have a > >lot of Merlin junk, including a 1/48 Salmson for $23. Any opinions on > >this kit? > > > >Riordan > > Well, how badly do you want to build a 1/48 Salmson ?? I have one of > the Merlin kits. Molding is a little more crude than their 1/48 Albatros > D-II. Walls of the fuselage pieces are very thick and my fuselage halves > are a little warped. Given that plans are scarce for this machine, I can't > comment on the accuracy of the kit overall. I think that the basics are > here for making a reasonable model of this under appreciated machine > (overdue for Datafile coverage I think), it just may depend on whether you > have $23 burning a hole in your pocket or not. > > My $0.02 worth. > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu Thanks for the $.02 worth. I got the same impressions when I looked at the kit. Maybe if the chiselers let me high-grade (take the best parts) from their box of kits, I might do it. I don't own an orbital sander though, and those wings looked pretty thick... Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 20:28:01 -0500 From: "S.M.Sundberg" To: wwi Subject: Re: Ceramic wire Message-ID: <336942F4.4F79@netins.net> Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > > Tom asked about ceramic wire procedures, I am by no means an expert but I use > both a mix of fishing line and > ceramic wire to rig with; in using the ceramic wire I first use a dividers to > determine the exact distance between the two points. > I then have a piece of drafting tape on a sheet of glass and mark the two > points on the tape as reference. Then take the > wire and cut with a single edge razor blade, holding the wire down with a > finger so it doesn't go flying off into the > next room or your eye. I then have a small puddle of ACC glue on another > piece of tape (on the same glass but away > from my hand as to not glue the glass to my palm). Take a tweezers dip both > ends of the wire in the ACC so to form a > small drop on the ends and set in place. > > Hope this helps Simple white glue or Elmers also works very well. It's a little more tacky, doesn't stick my fingers to the plane. Steve S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Osterkamp's Fokker D.VIII Message-ID: <970501233351_-1935191962@emout17.mail.aol.com> I built this from the Eduard kit. Standard finish with yellow cowling and I doctored the serials to "156" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:36:49 -0400 (EDT) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: On meeting listmembers Message-ID: <970501233643_-232292119@emout10.mail.aol.com> Tomorrow nite, I will be at the Midwest regional IPMS in St. Louis. How will I recognize my fellow WWI'ers. What's the secret handshake? Or do I look for crossed "rigger's" eyes? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 22:47:45 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Niueport 17C.1 markings Message-ID: <3369638F.5BA2@netjava.net> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > > > > I am in the process of researching the markings that came with the ESCI > > 1:72 kit of the Ni.17C.1. If I'm going to the trouble of following > > M.Bittner's rebuild of the kit, I'm damned if I'm going to find out > > afterwards that the markings that came with the kit actually went on > > Nungesser's Nieuport 17bis. Does anybody know if the markings are > > appropriate to Nungesser's earlier Ni.17? If I interpret J.Bruce's > > article in Air Enthusiast ???? correctly, Nungesser flew the Ni.17bis > > when he shot down the British airman who attacked him. That would mean > > that at least the diagonal stripes on the top wing would not have been > > painted on his Ni.17. > > Also I would hate to have somebody point out to me later that "of > > course, you know,old chap, that the serial number of Nungesser's > > Nieuport was N 1895, and not N 189one! Actually they were all N 1985, > > some sort of hang-up of his, I expect." > > See what you guys have made me do. Two months ago I wouldn't have given > > a hoot. > > So, should I put the decals in the spares box, in the hope that I will > > one day convert a 17 into a 17bis, and look for some nice aftermarket > > decals? Please advice. > > Unrelated question: > > I see that some listmembers are trying out ceramic wire. Please inform > > the rest of us on the results, tips on technique etc. > > > > Tom Werner Hansen > > I did Nungesser's N17 (#1490) per the picture in the Datafile. It had > green and brown camo with a light blue cone' de penetration. Vickers on > the fuselage and Lewis on the wing. I did mine from the 1/48 kit. > Scratchbuild a new upper wing as well as elevator and rudder. Got a > full cockpit using Tom's etchings. I was real pleased with it. > Hope that helps. > > Kevin W. Tom, A small addition to Kevin W.'s post. The under surfaces were aluminum and extended over all flying surfaces giving an outline. There were no cocardes on upper surface of the top wing. The head of the coffin in the insignia faced towards the tail on the left side and facing the cockpit on the right side. The cowl was natural metal. All info direct from "French Aircraft of the First World War". The a/c you are modeling is the only one of his three Nieuport 17's that did not have his personal insignia handed. Cheers, Bill B. Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 21:26:54 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: <199705020426.AA13907@ednet1.orednet.org> Erik writes, most earnestly: -much frothing about emee won oh nine's and SPAD's snipped- :-) > I mean, the 109, yes, was a significant aircraft, but no more so >than, say, the SPAD VII. And how many SPAD 7 kits are there? In the >Master Scale, only a shamefully anemic 25-year-old Airfix mold with >more problems than Catholic School girl at a Boy Scout retreat. I >can't even think of any others, in any scale. Heller, 1/40th scale. Not problem-free by any stretch of the imagination but not bad for its era (mid-'60's). A decidedly weird scale though. The sad fact is that if the major kit makers could sell even a third as many SPAD kits as they sell emee whatevers, there would be as many SPAD kits available as there are 109s. They can't so there aren't. Heck, even the folks that were doing it as a labor of love, like Sierra, are getting out of the WWI business. DML has ceased WWI production and most to the old molds from Hawk/Testors, Aurora/Monogram, Airfix, and Revell have disappeared from current production. Even the perennial Lindberg Jenny and SE.5a seem to have vanished from the shelves and Hobbycraft, after decent efforts in 1/32 seems to have given up on WWI We're pretty much down to Eduard, Glencoe reissues of the old Auroras and the specialty manufacturers like Pegasus. And how long even Chris Gannon can hang on at Pegasus is questionable - my hobby shop used to get three or four copies of each new Pegasus kit, now he only orders 'em when he has a specific order for one and a lot of the old ones are still sitting on the shelves unsold. I do hope the World War I Renaissance of the last 10 years of so was not just a flash in the pan but it does look like things will be getting worse before they get better. Still, having been through the last drought, my basement is well stocked. I figure I can't build 'em all before death or senility sets in anyway. My advice - don't bemoan the absence of a SPAD VII, rather, stock up on DML triplanes and SPAD 13s while ya' can still get 'em without paying collectors prices. "There's a bad moon on the rise." :-( Cheers and all, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 23:10:56 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: <33698570.7A7E@ricochet.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > Erik writes, most earnestly: > > -much frothing about emee won oh nine's and SPAD's snipped- :-) > > > I mean, the 109, yes, was a significant aircraft, but no more so > >than, say, the SPAD VII. And how many SPAD 7 kits are there? In the > >Master Scale, only a shamefully anemic 25-year-old Airfix mold with > >more problems than Catholic School girl at a Boy Scout retreat. I > >can't even think of any others, in any scale. > > Heller, 1/40th scale. Not problem-free by any stretch of the > imagination but not bad for its era (mid-'60's). A decidedly > weird scale though. > > The sad fact is that if the major kit makers could sell even a third > as many SPAD kits as they sell emee whatevers, there would be as > many SPAD kits available as there are 109s. They can't so there > aren't. Heck, even the folks that were doing it as a labor of love, > like Sierra, are getting out of the WWI business. DML has ceased > WWI production and most to the old molds from Hawk/Testors, > Aurora/Monogram, Airfix, and Revell have disappeared from > current production. Even the perennial Lindberg Jenny and SE.5a > seem to have vanished from the shelves and Hobbycraft, after decent > efforts in 1/32 seems to have given up on WWI We're pretty much down > to Eduard, Glencoe reissues of the old Auroras and the specialty > manufacturers like Pegasus. And how long even Chris Gannon can > hang on at Pegasus is questionable - my hobby shop used to get > three or four copies of each new Pegasus kit, now he only orders > 'em when he has a specific order for one and a lot of the old ones > are still sitting on the shelves unsold. > > I do hope the World War I Renaissance of the last 10 years of so > was not just a flash in the pan but it does look like things > will be getting worse before they get better. Still, having > been through the last drought, my basement is well stocked. > I figure I can't build 'em all before death or senility sets > in anyway. > > My advice - don't bemoan the absence of a SPAD VII, rather, > stock up on DML triplanes and SPAD 13s while ya' can still > get 'em without paying collectors prices. > > "There's a bad moon on the rise." :-( > > Cheers and all, > > -- > - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - > > "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Is the Smer S.VII a repackage of the Heller molds? Riordan -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Cross Modeling Message-ID: <199705020610.XAA00369@concord.televar.com> Randy (shockingly) reveals: >If it helps, I occassionally buy 1/43 scale cars. And when Accurate Miniatures >released their Corvette Grand Sport, I got one of the blue versions. > >And recently, I've been eyeing the Tamiya 1/48 MiG-15bis at the hobby shop. > >Randy PERVERT!! ......I mean, bi-scaleuality I can sort of tolerate, but **cars**?!?!? **Jets**?!?!? AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! ;-) Tongue way over in cheek mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Cross Modeling: Another Out-Of-The-Closet Message-ID: <199705020610.XAA00383@concord.televar.com> Patrick confesses: > Anyway, there it is. I still model wwi, its still my first love, but. . >.I feel better for having made a clean breast of it. I hope you can accept >me as I am. Regards, Patrick So how does one make a clean breast of it? Man, between this, Bill's erection instructions, and the infamous lozenge covered rubber, this list is headed straight for an R rating! ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:32:40 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: <199705020632.AB29610@ednet1.orednet.org> In our last episode, Riordan was typing: >Is the Smer S.VII a repackage of the Heller molds? Yes. Cheers and all, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:23:29 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi group Subject: Polite Request Message-ID: Could I ask that any wwi list member who wishes to refer to BLOODY MESSER BLOOD SCMIDTT BLOODY AEROPLANES please add "Bf" in brackets to the mail subject line so I can just delete it right awat without having to read about the damn things. Many thanks Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:44:51 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi group Subject: Sea Eagle Fokker DVIII Message-ID: I wrote a little while back about the Mailed Guantlet Alb DVa and mentioned that I had seen the 1/72 Eduard Fokker DVIII in a special edition black box with markings for a (Naval?) Razor in bizarre yellow and black diamonds. Now I respect Matt and his small following but I won't ever buy a 1/72 kit of anything less than HP 0/400 or Staaken proportions (if even then). But the "Sea Eagle" colour scheme looks superb. Does anyone have the kit yet, or know any more of this machine? Its not in the Profile or Datafile and I would probably finish either my Eduard or DML Razor in this scheme if it dates from before 11/11/18. Anybody help? Any of the stockists on the list able to break the seal on the box? Thanks Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 04:51:21 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Jacobs article Message-ID: <199705020450_MC2-15CE-B1A8@compuserve.com> >Geoff, any chance of getting a Hannant's catalog?< Joe , Send me your snail mail address and I'll get it asap. It may well be a couple of weeks though. Regards Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 17:36:37 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Cross Modeling: Another Out-Of-The-Closet Message-ID: <199705012136.RAA04938@fw.true.net> It is very brave of you Randy to say this publicly But. . . anathema ... anathema ... take him away and shoot him Come on guys , stop this trend , we need to believe in our Heroes What's that of building teeny whiny things , or worse , those CENSORED, CENSORED, CENSORED other stuf. Behave like grown ups. SALUDOS I am just finishing the Pegasus Albatros D.III in the Sworl Fabric and must recognize it is looking damn good, although a little bit teeny whiny . ALBERTO At 01:56 PM 01-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >> > It started >> > innocently enough. I thought, "Well, I'll just build one Bf 109, >> > a Hasegawa, right out of the box. It's a >> >> AAARRRGGGHHH. HE SAID IT...HE SAID IT...THE KNIGHTS OF WW1 CAN'T >> HEAR THAT WORD... AAARRRGGGHHH... >> >> Ok. I think this guy needs to correct a Merlin model. He's >> mentioned the dreaded Bf-10thingie, and here it was a decent day. >> Someone tie him up an flog him with a wet noodle. > >I **MIGHT HAVE** recently finished a project involving that dreaded word, but >do note that I was wise enough not to name names... > >Randy >-- >=============================================================================== >Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 > Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com >"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." --Calvin >=============================================================================== > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 07:47:26 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: On meeting listmembers Message-ID: <199705021250.HAA24786@Walden.MO.NET> I'll be there Saturday morning. Just look for the folks cussing and screaming at the BF-109's. Joe ---------- > From: DavidL1217@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: On meeting listmembers > Date: Thursday, May 01, 1997 10:40 PM > > Tomorrow nite, I will be at the Midwest regional IPMS in St. Louis. How will > I recognize my fellow WWI'ers. What's the secret handshake? Or do I look > for crossed "rigger's" eyes? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 07:53:24 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: <199705021256.HAA25425@Walden.MO.NET> Bill was saying.... > I do hope the World War I Renaissance of the last 10 years of so > was not just a flash in the pan but it does look like things > will be getting worse before they get better. Still, having > been through the last drought, my basement is well stocked. > I figure I can't build 'em all before death or senility sets > in anyway. > > My advice - don't bemoan the absence of a SPAD VII, rather, > stock up on DML triplanes and SPAD 13s while ya' can still > get 'em without paying collectors prices. > > "There's a bad moon on the rise." :-( > Sage advise from down under. I too feel like somewhat of a survivalist by buying whatever I can get my hands on these days. I'll be looking hard this weekend. Don't forget that Blue Max still has a SPAD VII available and JMGT has one for umpteen USD as well. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:26:22, -0500 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Hat 1/72 WWI figures Message-ID: <199705021226.IAA10764@mime4.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Anyone ever seen these? Are they styrene or rubber? Thanks, Ken -- npwe28a@prodigy.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT: survey list Message-ID: >> The last few model shows I have attended each had 10+ 1/48 Bf 109s. This is >> without a doubt the most widely modelled aircraft of any era. >> > Agreed. The last show I attended featured about 45-50 1/72 scale >"Single-Engined, WWII" entries (as per the category); fully 37 of >them were Messerschmulz's.... The Bf 109 has got to be one of the easiest model kits to build. Especially when compared to any rigged biplane. Folks have looked at my models and commented on the rigging of all things asking me, "Gaaaaawleee, but how did y'all do that?". I believe this more than anything scares modellers off biplane subjects. Consider that 3 out 4 DML 1/48 models have minimal rigging. I think this contributed to the decision to make the various Fokker kits. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:59:48 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Tom's Pfalz D.VIII Message-ID: I saw mention of a 1/48th Pfalz D.VIII kit on Tom's Modelworks website. Has anyone seen this kit? --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: Cross Modeling Message-ID: >PERVERT!! ......I mean, bi-scaleuality I can sort of tolerate, but >**cars**?!?!? **Jets**?!?!? AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! ;-) It's like dating outside your own species! Please, just say NO! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:14:29 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Polite Request Message-ID: <199705021314.JAA06679@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Could I ask that any wwi list member who wishes to refer to BLOODY MESSER > BLOOD SCMIDTT BLOODY AEROPLANES please add "Bf" in brackets to the mail > subject line so I can just delete it right awat without having to read > about the damn things. Better yet - take any WWII discussions off line or elsewhere please. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! 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