WWI Digest 518 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: ****ing list by Bill Bacon 2) Re: any messages? by Bill Bacon 3) Re: Wood Finishes by Bill Bacon 4) Re: any messages? by Kevin Wenker 5) MB-2 (A little off topic) by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 6) Re: any messages? by Bill Bacon 7) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by "Erik" 8) Old codgers (was: Wood Finishes) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 9) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by mbittner@juno.com 10) Re: any messages? by "Don Rinker" 11) Re: Old codgers (was: Wood Finishes) by Sandy Adam 12) Re: Which way do you hang? by Sandy Adam 13) Re: wwi unscribe by Tom Eisenhour 14) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 15) Re: wwi unscribe by Kevin Wenker 16) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by Kevin Wenker 17) Re: WHAT I WANT by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 18) Cross Modeling by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 19) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 20) Gotha Photoetch by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 21) Software development (Off Topic) by Sandy Adam 22) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by "Joseph Gentile" 23) Re: On meeting listmembers by GRBroman@aol.com 24) Re: WHAT I WANT by GRBroman@aol.com 25) Re: On meeting listmembers by GRBroman@aol.com 26) Re: Software development (Off Topic) by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 27) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 28) Re: Comment on this list by aew (Allan Wright) 29) Re: Inspiration for Next Up by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:18:30 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: ****ing list Message-ID: <3366C816.20A3@netjava.net> Mark K. Nelson wrote: > > >In response to: > > > >>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:55:41 -0400 > >>To: Multiple recipients of list > >>Subject: Take me off this fucking list > > > >. . . I thought this was a list for WW I modellers. Is it some other kind of > >list? Am I missing something here? Is this like watching a movie lying on > >the couch and missing the good parts? > > > >Or was the List temporarily lurked by a jerk? > > > >PK > > He's just upset 'cause his hockey team sucks. Dallas tHHHPPPTT!!!!!! > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) > ------------------------ > mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca It took seven games and the last one went into overtime. To loose the last game by one goal in overtime ain't all that shabby. Yes, I live in Texas. Good games and well played by all. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:19:15 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: any messages? Message-ID: <3366C843.63DB@netjava.net> Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > Hi all, > > The server's been acting up again lately and I seemed to have been > unsubscribed again. > > Any way I've just resubscribe and: > > Anyone have any personal messages for me? > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* Welcome back Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:21:08 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Wood Finishes Message-ID: <3366C8B4.417A@netjava.net> Joseph Gentile wrote: > > It seems that every three months or so there is a request regarding wood > finishes and it never fails to amaze me that a new technique/idea is > shared. I wonder if there is a conspiracy... > > The latest Windsock has an Albatros Dr.I on the cover finished with the > wood grain decals. While the builder is obviously very talented it does > seem to me to be grossly out of scale. It does however, give one a good > idea of how this medium will be portrayed in 1/48. > > "... Ideal did all the WW1 planes, Fokker, Albatros, Pfalz, Camel, Spad, > Nieuport. The also did what we would now call "golden age". Remember > "golden age" was state of the art back then. Right after the war, Hawk did > a series of WW1 a/c in 1/48 balsa. The boxs were red and white checkered > as I remember." > > These were the kits that my dad built and I remember him telling me stories > about what "real" models were all about. I also recall a very recent > discussion where he recalls the then ( 1940's) "English" kits as being > state of the art and very much in demand and high in price. > > Thank you for the fond memory. > > Joe Joe, You are most welcome. Cheers, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:26:51 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: any messages? Message-ID: <3366CA0B.4236@interaccess.com> Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > Hi all, > > The server's been acting up again lately and I seemed to have been > unsubscribed again. > > Any way I've just resubscribe and: > > Anyone have any personal messages for me? > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* Well maybe if you wrote "resubscribe to this list" about a 1000 times and sent it 12 times, they would leave you on it. Then, having done that, you, too, could work for the government or teach about it. Kevin W. --------------- "For every inoffensive, law-abiding common guy, there is a bureaucrat just waiting to screw him up." Mike Ryoko (1932-1997) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:12:41, -0500 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: MB-2 (A little off topic) Message-ID: <199704300412.AAB273702@mime4.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Despite (or maybe because) this was the plane Billy Mitchell used to try to sink the Navy, I bought one of the Glencoe MB-2s this past weekend. I think that with a few replacement parts, (engines, guns, gun rings) it would make an attractive airplane. Anyone else ever tackled this kit? Any good references available? Ken -- npwe28a@prodigy.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:51:31 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: any messages? Message-ID: <3366CFD3.9EF@netjava.net> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The server's been acting up again lately and I seemed to have been > > unsubscribed again. > > > > Any way I've just resubscribe and: > > > > Anyone have any personal messages for me? > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > > > ********************************************************************* > > Well maybe if you wrote "resubscribe to this list" about a 1000 times > and sent it 12 times, they would leave you on it. Then, having done > that, you, too, could work for the government or teach about it. > > Kevin W. > > --------------- > "For every inoffensive, law-abiding common guy, there is a bureaucrat > just waiting to screw him up." > > Mike Ryoko (1932-1997) Kevin, Maybe Joey missed all the late good tims so your commenmt would be similar to Sanscit or Greek to him. Your comment might work. Ask Al. Mike Ryoko is was right on. I woirks inside the government too. For everyone trying to do something constructive there are at least two figuring out how to stop him. Cheers, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:44:32 +0000 From: "Erik" To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <199704300646.XAA12149@glinda.oz.net> On 29 Apr 97, Mary-Ann/Michael heroically postulated: > I've wondered what it is that prompts us to pick out what model > we're going to build next. There will be days that go by before I decide > what to do next, only to change my mind before I get started. I've found > that the one thing that most consistently gets me started is to find some > new decals. That usually gets me hooked. How about the rest of you guys? Ah, well... you should pose this question to the Field Judge of the Olympic Start-A-New-Kit competition, Matt.[hee hee!]... No, seriously, I really can't say how it is that I choose a new kit. Perhaps I'll see a scheme in a book, or... dunno. Man, that's a great question, come to think of it.... Cheers, Erik ........................................................................ "Mr.Anchovy, perhaps you could move *towards* 'Lion Taming' via Banking, or even Insurance?..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:47:27 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Old codgers (was: Wood Finishes) Message-ID: <199704300647.AA14570@ednet1.orednet.org> Bill Bacon diligently typed: -snips- >No problem. Ideal did all the WW1 planes, Fokker, Albatros, Pfalz, >Camel, Spad, Nieuport. Well, perhaps in the pre-plastic era. In the plastic era, Ideal produced only their truly awful roughly 1/100 or 1/96 scale SPAD XIII. I wasn't aware that ITC was involved in the production of kits in the pre-plastic era. Thanks for this tidbit. The also did what we would now call "golden >age". Remember "golden age" was state of the art back then. Right >after the war, Hawk did a series of WW1 a/c in 1/48 balsa. The boxs >were red and white checkered as I remember. They were the first kits >that I can remember that provided decals for actual a/c. I remember the >D-VII had decals for the a/c with the large "M" on the upper wing. Real >neat in those days. I guess that is when I first got interested in a/c >markings. I remember the post war strombecker kits as well as the >Monogram. How time flies. A wise man once sai that we grow old too >soon and smart too late. He also said that youth is squandered on the >young. Sigh! Ah the memories of youth! I graciously surrender my "old codger" laurels to you and anoint you "official old codger" of this list - my WW1 kit memories only go back to the first Hawk plastic kits which must have been somewheres around 1953 or '54. Yet the plastic Hawks came in the checkered box as well and I remember the prop was attached to the model by shoving a pin through the prop hub into a wooden backing piece behind the engine. So, at least my earliest memories of WW1 kits had _some_ wooden parts. The remarkable thing is that I think the Testors molds of the SPAD XIII and the Nieuport 17 which were available as recently as a couple years back (and may be available again in the future) are the exact same molds, with only a couple modifications and improvements, as the 1953 or '54 Hawk kits. Ya' no longer have to attach the propeller with a straight pin but other than that, they are more or less the same molds. Old molds never die, they just get recycled! Incidently, the Lindberg PT-17 kit, which is still available, is a likely candidate for the first injection molded plastic aircraft kit ever. These molds were originally made by Varney in 1947 or '48 and have been used, off and on, by various companies, up to the present. Either this year or next we celebrate the 50th anniversary of the modern injection molded plastic kit. Do ya' suppose we could get the (USofA) post office to issue a commemorative stamp? :-) Cheers and regards, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 04:53:12 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <19970430.045312.9062.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:51:25 -0400 "Erik" writes: > Ah, well... you should pose this question to the Field Judge of > the Olympic Start-A-New-Kit competition, Matt.[hee hee!]... You Cheeky Swine! The largest contributing factor to what's going to be built is what the theme for our club's monthly contest is going to be. Besides that, the rest is hit or miss. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 06:38:35 -0400 From: "Don Rinker" To: Subject: Re: any messages? Message-ID: <199704301040.GAA23508@post1.fast.net> > Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The server's been acting up again lately and I seemed to have been > > unsubscribed again. > > > > Any way I've just resubscribe and: > > > > Anyone have any personal messages for me? Yes, you're sister is ugly, and your feet stink...... :-) ( running away very fast) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:55:32 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Old codgers (was: Wood Finishes) Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Bill Shatzer wrote: > Bill diligently typed: > > -snips- > Incidently, the Lindberg PT-17 kit, which is still available, is a > likely candidate for the first injection molded plastic aircraft > kit ever. > > These molds were originally made by Varney in 1947 or '48 Did we not discuss Frog Penguins recently? - The first injection moulded aircraft from this source were designed by John Wilmot in the 1930's. The first subjects were produced on hand operated injection machines in a two stage operation which used a long lever to first close the two halves and then inject the liquid plastic. The Gladiator, Fury and Shark came out in 1936 which predates the Lindbergh PT by a decade. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:13:12 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Which way do you hang? Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Vincent Price wrote: > Looking through my cabinet of finished models (as opposed to my warehouse of > unfinished!) I noticed something curious - all of the props are angled the > same way, bottom left to top right! Good topic! You are dead right. I usually use the prop drive shaft hole as a means of skewering the model on a piece of thin dowel to handle whilst spraying etc. When I come to finally add the prop I usually experiment for the best look and apart from a Phoenix DII ( which for some reason looks great horizontal) every one of my models has prop angled the same way. - It so happens its bottom left to top right, and most of my aircraft would be positioned as viewed from left front quarter angle, but they just look better that way. I end up trying to decide which models I like less and turning them away from this positioning for variety - Of course as a new completed model is added (regularly every three years) they all have to be repositioned! I bet most people like furthest away prop tip high and nearest low - as well as furthest away aileron up and rudder towards the viewer? (Elevators have to droop of course) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:06:48 -0700 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: wwi unscribe Message-ID: <336751F8.6737@swbell.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > This is the closest as a flame one will get on this list. > Dealing with incompetence. Didn't his pitiful and frantic attempts to get off the list remind you of someone trying to push open a door that is labeled "pull" in large letters? Doesn't open? Push harder! Actually, folks, what we just saw is the caliber and the problem-solving approach of most people on the net today. It sure makes me appreciate our little corner of maturity and civility. Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:44:54 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: Mike wonders: > I've wondered what it is that prompts us to pick out what model >we're going to build next. A few months ago, I picked up the Fabric special on JG1 to get some ideas for painting my Pfalz DIIIa. One look at those Jasta 4 Fok DVIIs with the lozenge fuselage and black/white striped longerons, and I knew one had to be built. Then there was the beautiful Jasta 4 Alb DV with the elegant black stripe winding down the fusalage. I had to build that one too. And then there was the...well you get the idea. Kevin B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:51:40 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: wwi unscribe Message-ID: <33675C7C.29EB@interaccess.com> Tom Eisenhour wrote: It sure makes me appreciate > our little corner of maturity and civility. > > Tom Eisenhour > eisen@swbell.net Oh, I'm sure, given a little effort, we can change all that. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:54:23 -0700 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <33675D1F.C79@interaccess.com> barrett wrote: > > Mike wonders: > > > I've wondered what it is that prompts us to pick out what model > >we're going to build next. > It seems I spend more time wondering which kit to build nowadays than I do actually building. When there were only a FEW good 1/48, it was just pick the next one and start. Now, with so many, its....hmmm...maybe this...no, how about that....well, let's just go look at the old Windsocks some more. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT Message-ID: The List did a survey of most wanted airplane kits some time ago. The results are posted on the website. Is it time to do another survey of our most desired model kits? If so, here are mine (resin with metal & PE parts) 1/48 Albatros D I/II Brisfit Halberstadt DI/II/III/V fighters Bregeut 14 Aviatik DI 1/72 Zeppelin Staaken RIV/V Handley Page 100/400 Dornier RSIII --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:00:42 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Cross Modeling Message-ID: Well, since Ellen Degeneres is 'coming out' on tonite's episode of 'Ellen' here in the US I thought I might as well get something off my chest, too. It is time for me to come out of the modeling closet and admit that I Cross Model. Yes folks, hard as it is to believe, I occasionally buy and even BUILD 1/72nd scale models. I paint them pink. It helps me relax at night. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:01:26 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <199704301309.IAA29337@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Mike wote: > Hopefully a new thread > I've wondered what it is that prompts us to pick out what model > we're going to build next. There will be days that go by before I decide > what to do next, only to change my mind before I get started. I've found > that the one thing that most consistently gets me started is to find some > new decals. That usually gets me hooked. How about the rest of you guys? > Mike Muth Some of us can't decide! I have maybe 3 dozen kits on the shelf that have been started, wating for me to get back to. I have been getting input from the list on several projects I would like to start, and will be asking for more info on another one today. Usually seeing something on TV or reading about it only prompts me to go out and buy it, and not necessarily start it. At times, I almost have to "force" myself to start a kit. Then it sits on the shelf waiting! Seriously, it depends on my mood--whether I want to slam something together just for fun, or make a serious attempt at a challenging kit. Incidentley, for anyone who is interested, I believe the Discovery Channel is running a show tonight at 9:00 CDT that covers the tunneling used on the front lines during WW1. You may want to check your listings to verify this. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:07:52 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <199704301315.IAA29364@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Kevin, I am sending off the information I have on the Gotha this morning in the mail. You should have it by July, unless we have a postal strike.* Paul *Just kidding, for all you postal workers out there! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 14:56:05 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi group Subject: Software development (Off Topic) Message-ID: In the same vein as Peter's excellent Royal Navy reports, perhaps the following may help to banish memories of our hopefully departed visitor. Thought you might appreciate this: > >> Subject: Software Developers Vs Drug Dealers ... >> >> >> ------------------------ ---------------------------- >> Drug Dealers Software Developers >> ------------------------ ---------------------------- >> >> Refer to their clients Refer to their clients >> as "users". as "users". >> >> "The first one's free!" "Download a free trial version ...." >> >> Have important South-East Have important South-East >> Asian connections Asian connections >> (to help move the stuff). (to help debug the code) >> >> Strange Jargon :- Strange Jargon :- >> "Stick", "Rock", "SCSI", "RTFM" , >> "Dime bag" , "E". Java", "ISDN". >> >> Realize that there's Realize that there's >> tons of cash in the tons of cash in the >> 14 to 25 year-old 14 to 25 year-old >> market. market. >> >> Job is assisted by the Job is assisted by the >> industry's producing industry's producing >> newer, more potent mixes. newer, faster machines. >> >> Often seen in the company Often seen in the company of >> of pimps and hustlers. marketing people and venture >> capitalists. >> >> The products causes DOOM, Quake, SimCity, Duke Nukem 3D. >> unhealthy addictions. 'Nuff said. >> >> Do your job well, and Damn! Damn! DAMN!!! >> and you can sleep with >> sexy movie stars who >> depend on you. > > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:11:29 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <199704301414.JAA12454@Walden.MO.NET> Hopefully a new thread I've wondered what it is that prompts us to pick out what model > we're going to build next. There will be days that go by before I decide > what to do next, only to change my mind before I get started. I've found > that the one thing that most consistently gets me started is to find some > new decals. That usually gets me hooked. How about the rest of you guys? > Mike Muth > NB: 41st Aero Sq. Camel(1st time using ceramic wire) > NL: Still hooked on Paula Cole > NU: Maybe a Polish plane in 1/72 to keep Matt and Riordan happy! Excellent thought! I'm still plugging away at the KAE Hannover Cl.IIIa. Business and a new home purchase have kept my modelling to to a minimum. I just finished painting/priming the resin control surfaces and applying lozenge. I also had the opportunity between paint and decals to apply rib tapes to the upper surface of the bottom wing. Ahhhhgggg! Man, it looks pretty but I'd rather have a few teeth extracted! Back to the subject....Modelling contests and a new Datafile always get my imagination going. If that doesn't work then a quick trip through Allan's WWI images will stir things up a bit. As a kid growing up in the Washington, DC area a trip to the Squadron Shop to gaze into the display case would cause the saliva to flow! Joe nb: KAE 1/48 Hannover Cl.III nu: Rareplanes Gotha G.V 1/72 (biscaler and proud!) nl: Stevie Ray Vaughn, Texas Flood (Go Oilers!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:20:36 -0400 (EDT) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: On meeting listmembers Message-ID: <970430102035_1685418917@emout01.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-04-29 14:00:49 EDT, you write: << No offense was intended :-( For me, I just get a better personal sense of accomplishment on completion of a biplane, as per a jet, just because of the delicacies involved in the assembly process. (I have actually been known to build everything from dinosaurs to spacecraft!) And no offense was taken, I just couldn't resist that "no prop" line. :) > As a matter of fact, I do have the Emhar 1/35 Mk IV kit, which I have never started because of a lack of references. Any good sources you could recommend to me? I believe it is the Male. I had also picked up the Airfix 1/32 WW2 British infantry to modify to WW1 infantry. Has anyone attempted doing this, and if so, how did it turn out? If you have access to the Profile series on the Marks I-IV or the Bellona print, they are good starting points. If not, I can probably shoot a copy to you. I have tried (and nominally succedded) at converting Matchbox WW II 1/76 infantry to WW I for a diorama, but have not tried it in 1/35. I have seen the method Bill Horan uses, which is basicaly sanding off all detail and sculpting the figure as WW I. Beautiful results, but far above my skill level. I still have some of the figures he did when we were in High School, even at that age, he had tremendous skill. >Unfortunately, I cannot make the Region 5 Convention this weekend. *Good luck to all who are taking entries!* That snow we had a few weekends ago has set my "honeydew" landscaping projects back. But on the positive side, I do know how to unsubscribe from the list if I wanted to! >> ROTFL! Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WHAT I WANT Message-ID: <970430102037_-2069534427@emout04.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-04-29 16:24:58 EDT, you write: << Regards, Patrick Padovan P.S. I'm pretty ignorant about wwi armour: what's a "Mother"? Maybe one of the armour experts could explain? >> Patrick, Mother was the nickname of the first Mark I tank. BTW, I moved from Lacey in 94 to the beautiful (flooding) banks of the Mississippi. I can out you in touch with some of the modeler types in the Olympia area, if you like. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:20:42 -0400 (EDT) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: On meeting listmembers Message-ID: <970430102038_1288786365@emout07.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-04-30 03:28:27 EDT, you write: << For those who don't know, there are three armor modelers in this area whose work is utterly fantastic. The first is from our club who built the Whippet. Not only builds 1/35th, but Hustad Scale as well. The second person is from IPMS/Des Moines, and his work is exceptional. The third is also from IPMS/Des Moines, and he only builds small scale (as an idea, he used one of those expensive Paasche airbrushes on a 1/72nd Hetzer to produce "sprayed on" lines - amazing!). Sorry to rant, but you will see the Des Moines armor builders stuff in St. Louis this year. Wonderful stuff! >> Sounds great! I look forward to meeting them ands seeing their stuff. Perhaps we can talk them into attending our Moline Model Show this November. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:21:15 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Software development (Off Topic) Message-ID: <199704301428.JAA29718@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Hey! I resemble those remarks! Paul Profanity is the language all programmers know. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:32:52 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: Joseph wrote: >Excellent thought! I'm still plugging away at the KAE Hannover Cl.IIIa. >Business and a new home purchase have kept my modelling to to a minimum. I >just finished painting/priming the resin control surfaces and applying >lozenge. I also had the opportunity between paint and decals to apply rib >tapes to the upper surface of the bottom wing. Ahhhhgggg! Man, it looks >pretty but I'd rather have a few teeth extracted! > Joseph, I've got a Hannover Cl III coming up (one of the little Airfix ones, though). May I ask, what are you using as a reference, and are you putting the "hand-painted, large-hex lozenge" on the fusalage? If so, how will you go about applying it? In 1/72 scale, I wondered if I should just use 1/48 scale lozenge on the fusalage to simulate the larger stuff. Were you able to side-step the whole issue by finding an example of the plane with a simple fuselage? Let me (us) know what you've decided to do. Thanks, Kevin B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: <199704301443.KAA24391@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > >> > > please take me off this listplease take me off this listplease take > me off > > > Talk about luck! In the last two weeks I've been unsubscribed twice without > even trying. Or has that been a subtle hint? > Jim Lyzun Jim, The server automaticly takes people off when mail to their account bounces back to the list for more than a fixed number of messages (5 I think). It does this to prevent the server from choking on bounced mail, it's a self preservation tatic. I have no control over it. If your mailbox gets full, your ISP goes down, etc. you'll get dropped. If I can help debug anyting from this end let me know, if you'r mailbox isn't getting full talk to your ISP (or system admin) aobut why your mail bounces. Thanks, sorry for the inconvience. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:56:14 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Inspiration for Next Up Message-ID: <1997Apr30.075548.1155.1516544@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Acouple of things get me inspired, one seeing someone else's model, Peter Fedders brought over a beautiful, fully rigged 1/48th Taube acouple of months ago at one of our St. Louis meetings and it's been stored away in my memory banks as a model 'to do' one of these days. Secondly, merely paging through a book on our favorite subject and finding an aircraft that typifies the era we model. Last, taking a inexpensive model (Morane H or Nieuport 17 by Testors) and turning it into a model you can place next to one made by DML or Eduard. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 518 *********************