WWI Digest 509 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gotha Photoetch by Kevin Wenker 2) Re: German crosses. by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 3) Re: Gotha Photoetch by "Bill Ciciora" 4) Re: Alb. C.III References? by "David & Carol Solosy" 5) Re: Newbie (please be gentle) by "Brian Bushe" 6) Re: Gotha Photoetch by Tom Eisenhour 7) Re: Gotha Photoetch by Alberto Rada 8) Re: Gotha Photoetch by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 9) Re: Gotha Photoetch by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 10) Re: The Sell And Trade Internet Marketplace - FREE by aew (Allan Wright) 11) Comment on this list by Bill Bacon 12) Re: Meikraft kits by Patrick Padovan 13) Re: reRe: Meikraft kits by Patrick Padovan 14) Re: Comment on this list by "Joseph Gentile" 15) Re: Comment on this list by Patrick Padovan 16) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 17) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 18) Gotha references by mbittner@juno.com 19) Re: Comment on this list by mbittner@juno.com 20) Re: Comment on this list by aew (Allan Wright) 21) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by Jack Berlien 22) Re: Gotha references by Alberto Rada 23) Re: Comment on this list by Alberto Rada 24) Flying Machines Press by BStett3770@aol.com 25) Re: Your Basic non-Joe Camel by BStett3770@aol.com 26) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 27) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 28) Re: Lindbergh JN-4 by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 29) 1/48th dial faces by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 30) Re: Gotha Photoetch by Kevin Wenker 31) Re: Gotha Photoetch by Kevin Wenker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:25:37 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <33602431.338F@interaccess.com> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:45:19 -0400 Kevin Wenker > writes: > > > OK, I guess I'm doing the Gotha V photoetch set. I have no idea > > what will be involved or what it will cost. Let's work that out > > later. What I do need is if someone will photocopy or lend me > > the Windsock on the Gotha and any other pics or drawings. All > > non photocopies will be returned. Quite frankly, I would rather > > make this a collective effort rather than sell them - so, if you > > want a set, participate. My address is below. I'll keep you > > all informed as to the progress of what I receive, what I am > > doing and how it is going. > > > > Lat me know what you folks think on this, ok? > > I think that if you plan on reducing them to 1/72nd, I will let > you borrom my Gotha Windsock Special. If you did do it in > 1/72nd as well, I would buy at least one set, and I'm sure others > who build in the Correct Scale would buy it as well. > > Matt > mbittner@juno.com OK, I suppose I can dribble drippings down to the poor. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:35:41 -0500 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: German crosses. Message-ID: <19970425033740.AAA19446@default> Whites are an area that can be really messy. First of all, there was no such thing as a non-yellowing white paint until the '50s. One would think that this would include dopes, maybe...... Second, almost all clear dopes will have a tendency to yellow. Some will yellow more than others, but true clears are a very late development. If the white area in question was overcoated, I'd bet the overall effect would be a slightly yellow cast. To add to the confusion, zinc oxide was sometimes used in white pigments for brightness. In several squadron emblems I've seen from the WW I period (I'm referring unit emblems painted on fabric or wood for display on the ground not aircraft fabric), the white paint used for the markings still a very bright white in color. It isn't very a very opaque color though and this causes the overall effect to be less intense. (The effect is similar to putting a thin white decal on over a dark colored undercoat.) Personally, I opt for a slightly off-white color on my models. The color I use most often is Floquil's Dirty White. Good Scale effect, and what I think is a good representation of the original. Just My Opinion, Paul H. ---------- > From: mbittner@juno.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: German crosses. > Date: Thursday, April 24, 1997 6:19 PM > > On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:58:30 -0400 Geoff Smith > writes: > > > Can someone please advise me on the colours of German crosses? > > Alright, I know, black and white,but keep reading. The black > > part is pretty unambiguous but what about the "white". On most > > of the decals I have it's more of a cream colour and these > > aren't old ones that have gone off. Should they show as true > > white on the full size thing or would a top coat of varnish have > > yellowed them? I realize this is nitpicking but it occurred to > > me that possibly the decals are more correct than I at first > > thought. > > I think you have something there, Geoff. I would agree that if > the fabric weathered, why wouldn't the painted on crosses? > Interesting. > > > Matt > mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:10:16 -0500 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: Kevin W. wrote: > I was also thinking of the side engine nacelle panels with the > louvers and inspection panels. Also the top of the scarfe ring. > Then instrument panel, rudder pedals, bomb release, gas tank mounts, > radiator parts, control horns, control assembly on the outside of > the fuselage. You covered most of what I wanted; how about the steering wheel, control column, and throttle quadrant too? You asked about the DH-10a; it's Aurora kit #786 in the Correct Scale (1/48). I found it for the same bargain price ($20) as the Gotha at a Midwest C&C meeting. The late Aurora kits, 700 series, are best for building as they have all the decal locator mouldings removed. I've seen these same kits for $60-$80 on consignment at hobby shops. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:32:23 +0800 From: "David & Carol Solosy" To: Subject: Re: Alb. C.III References? Message-ID: 04342547807926@argo.net.au Rob I know that shane has a copy. I've actually borrowed it from him before. I can ask him if you like. I know he's going to Italy for six months soon, so I'm sure he won't have any use for it. Even if I photocopy it for you. Let me know. David ---------- > From: Robert Woodbury > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Alb. C.III References? > Date: Thursday, 24 April 1997 8:48 > > G'Day from Downunder, > > I'm trying to track down some references on the Alb. C.III. I'm currently > working on the Eduard kit of said aircraft. But other than the unavailable > Windsock datafile, I'm not having much success. > > If someone has a spare copy of the Windsock publication that they would be > willing to part with or maybe photocopy? > > TIA > Rob W. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:20:38 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: Newbie (please be gentle) Message-ID: <199704251021.LAA12916@itl.net> > > As an aside, howcum Al got sick and the list went down at > > _exactly_ the same time? Coincidence? I think not! I > > suspect a mutated computer virus which was at last able to > > cross the machine/man barrier. > > Very suspicious! Are we sure Al is an organic being, or could he be a > clever Turing machine? Has anyone met him in person? Are we sure it's > "A-L" and not "A-One?" Note he always signs himself "AI " which is ovbiously "A"rtificial "I"ntelligence (perhaps I should sign myself as "NI") Brian 'My mind is going. There is no question of it' - Hal 9000 Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems Fieldhouse Lane (44) 01628 476 500 Marlow Fax 01628 475 522 Buckinghamshire SL7 1LU England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 06:55:22 -0700 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <3360B7CA.3F1F@swbell.net> Matt wrote: > I think that if you plan on reducing them to 1/72nd, I will let > you borrom my Gotha Windsock Special. If you did do it in > 1/72nd as well, I would buy at least one set, and I'm sure others > who build in the Correct Scale would buy it as well. Kevin, Why not put parts in both scales on one sheet? You've got a 6" x 8" piece of brass. Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 08:33:09 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <199704251233.IAA19500@fw.true.net> To all concerned I'l send Kevin The Gotha Windsock on monday, although I will be needing it back when finished I think this is a wonderful idea of participation SALUDOS ALBERTO At 09:47 PM 24-04-97 -0400, you wrote: >Alberto Rada wrote: >> >> The photoetch for the Gotha you are making is in the >> superb 1/48 scale, if so I will certainly want to buy one >> >> SALUDOS >> >> ALBERTO >> >> At 12:55 PM 24-04-97 -0400, you wrote: >> >Bill Ciciora wrote: >> >> > >OK, I guess I'm doing the Gotha V photoetch set. I have no idea what >will be involved or what it will cost. Let's work that out later. What >I do need is if someone will photocopy or lend me the Windsock on the >Gotha and any other pics or drawings. All non photocopies will be >returned. Quite frankly, I would rather make this a collective effort >rather than sell them - so, if you want a set, participate. My address >is below. I'll keep you all informed as to the progress of what I >receive, what I am doing and how it is going. > >Lat me know what you folks think on this, ok? > >Kevin Wenker >9218 Whitehall Ln >Orland Park, IL 60462 > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 07:40:18 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <199704251248.HAA16393@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > > > I think that if you plan on reducing them to 1/72nd, I will let > > you borrom my Gotha Windsock Special. If you did do it in > > 1/72nd as well, I would buy at least one set, and I'm sure others > > who build in the Correct Scale would buy it as well. > > > > Matt > > mbittner@juno.com > Kevin responded: > OK, I suppose I can dribble drippings down to the poor. > Kevin W. Nice comeback, Kevin. I would be interested in a set in 1/48 scale for myself. I have a 3 volume set of paperback books, Aircraft Archives I believe, that have some sketches and photos of the Gotha. I could make copies for you or another soul willing to do the artwork. I don't know how accurate the drawings are, but they do include interior drawings. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 09:34:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: >Whoa....one at a time, guys. Gotha first, if that works, we'll go from >there. I was also thinking of the side engine nacelle panels with the >louvers and inspection panels. Also the top of the scarfe ring. Then >instrument panel, rudder pedals, bomb release, gas tank mounts, radiator >parts, control horns, control assembly on the outside of the fuselage. How about the bomb racks, too? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: The Sell And Trade Internet Marketplace - FREE Message-ID: <199704251504.LAA28593@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > > ARGH!!! They Spammed the WWI modeling mailing list! Now I'm gonna have > > to hunt them down and KILL THEM! > > Hey Al, Could you please e-mail these guys a package of your flu > viruses? Now that would be Justice! > Glad to hear you're back in one piece again Thanks! -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! 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All I can say is that I am most proud to call each of you friend Cheers, Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Meikraft kits Message-ID: Thanks, Charles. But my question still remains: is Meikraft still producing kits? (I've purchased mine from Rosemont in the past.) Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: reRe: Meikraft kits Message-ID: Thanks, Barry. That's what I wanted to know. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:13:28 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: <199704251713.MAA25230@Walden.MO.NET> Well put Sir...I second your remarks having benefitted greatly from my brief association. I have learned a great deal from the unselfish members of this fraternity. Where else can one get both a copy of an article with historical importance that is 30 plus years old (RE: C&C Jacobs reference) as well as a paperback copy of G-4 and His Battle Aces in one package. Talk about Contrast! Joe ---------- > From: Bill Bacon > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Comment on this list > Date: Friday, April 25, 1997 11:46 AM > > Friends, > > Can't help it, it has got to be said. This has got to be the best group > of people on linne. We are a diverse group nationally and otherwise but > the willingness to share infomation, knowledge, techniques, etc. and yet > have witty repartee to go with it make it unique. All I can say is that > I am most proud to call each of you friend > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Bill Bacon > wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: Here, here! This list is a breath of fresh air, not only because of the unique subject(s) matter(s), but equally because of the friendly, helpful people. I can't believe I haven't seen anyone flame anyone else yet (granted, I'm a newcomer at about 3 weeks, but compared to other lists I've scanned, that's still amazing!) I hope it stays this way. Also, just wanted to add my thanks to Al, and to all who've replied to my questions. I really appreciate your time. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Bill Bacon wrote: > Friends, > > Can't help it, it has got to be said. This has got to be the best group > of people on linne. We are a diverse group nationally and otherwise but > the willingness to share infomation, knowledge, techniques, etc. and yet > have witty repartee to go with it make it unique. All I can say is that > I am most proud to call each of you friend > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Bill Bacon > wbacon@netjava.net > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:52:01 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh JN-4 Message-ID: <1997Apr25.104757.1155.1504122@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Just finished painting and decalling the old Lindbergh JN-4 what a neat, inexpensive model! I hadn't built it since I was probably 13 or 14 years old. But the rigging look like a real challenge. Have two DML SPADS and use the larger of the two AEF roundels on the wings - they almost fit perfectly as the diameter fit was from edge to edge. Painted the fabric with Floquil Antique White with Floquil Mud and Roof Brown added to obtain a very light whitish tan hue. For the brown color metal panels I used a mix of Roof brown and Reefer yellow. Only changes from the kit is I added a very fine wire mesh screen to better denote the radiator front. Sanded off the cast on leather belts on the cowling and replaced with drafting tape painted medium brown. Nice, quick model - next step to rig using fishing line and ceramic wire. nr: History of the 8th AF 91st Heavy Bomb Group - (Uncle was navigator and Mickey operator on B-17G with 26 missions). nl: Hooker 'n Heat (John Lee Hooker and Canned Heat - don't recommend playing this while rigging a plane) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:02:38 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh JN-4 Message-ID: <199704251811.NAA17348@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Charles: Any work done on the cockpit interiors or the OX engine? I've been contemplating building this kit for sometime now, but as you stated, it is the challenge of the rigging that has always put me off. I've always used stretched sprue--how does fishing line compare as far as appearence and procedure for attaching? Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:15:48 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Gotha references Message-ID: <19970425.131549.13430.1.mbittner@juno.com> Well, well well. Since there are some of *you* who like to slam us builders of the Scale of Hustad, I might not photocopy Gotha stuff I have and send it off. What, may you ask, do I have? Two issues of WW1 Aero that has cockpit shots in them. Granted, I haven't looked at them since the Special came out, but never the less... Let me know if you really need them, and leave us builders of the True Scale alone. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:13:38 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: <19970425.131549.13430.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:26:45 -0400 Patrick Padovan writes: > Here, here! This list is a breath of fresh air, not only because > of the unique subject(s) matter(s), but equally because of the > friendly, helpful people. I can't believe I haven't seen anyone > flame anyone else yet (granted, I'm a newcomer at about 3 weeks, > but compared to other lists I've scanned, that's still amazing!) > I hope it stays this way. I really don't think we've ever had any flames. Sure, we've gotten under each other's colars, but no out and out flaming occurs, especially for the aversion to jets. ;-) However, start slamming 1/72nd, and you just might have to build - and correct - any number of Merlin kits. :-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: <199704251825.OAA29408@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > I really don't think we've ever had any flames. Sure, we've > gotten under each other's colars, but no out and out flaming > occurs, especially for the aversion to jets. ;-) > > However, start slamming 1/72nd, and you just might have to build > - and correct - any number of Merlin kits. :-) This list's quality is truely driven by the members. I don't think I've ever had to make an administrative decision to guide the list. It's a great thing just letting us all decide diplomaticly. The other lists I run have had some times where I've had to kill a flame war here and there. Thanks to everyone for making the list what it is. It's an administrators dream. Oh, thanks for all the kudos lately too! -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! 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Have two DML SPADS and use the larger of the two AEF roundels on the wings - they almost fit perfectly as the diameter fit was from edge to edge. Painted the fabric with Floquil Antique White with Floquil Mud and Roof Brown added to obtain a very light whitish tan hue. For the brown color metal panels I used a mix of Roof brown and Reefer yellow. Only changes from the kit is I added a very fine wire mesh screen to better denote the radiator front. Sanded off the cast on leather belts on the cowling and replaced with drafting tape painted medium brown. Nice, quick model - next step to rig using fishing line and ceramic wire. nr: History of the 8th AF 91st Heavy Bomb Group - (Uncle was navigator and Mickey operator on B-17G with 26 missions). nl: Hooker 'n Heat (John Lee Hooker and Canned Heat - don't recommend playing this while rigging a plane) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:35:30 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha references Message-ID: <199704251935.PAA10810@fw.true.net> Come on now, we the 1/48 Jasta are really nice guys, look about A month ago even I, tried to build a 1/72 Albatros, but accidentally dropped it to the carpet and haven't been able to find it since. SALUDOS ALBERTO At 02:20 PM 25-04-97 -0400, you wrote: >Well, well well. Since there are some of *you* who like to slam >us builders of the Scale of Hustad, I might not photocopy Gotha >stuff I have and send it off. > >What, may you ask, do I have? Two issues of WW1 Aero that has >cockpit shots in them. Granted, I haven't looked at them since >the Special came out, but never the less... > >Let me know if you really need them, and leave us builders of the >True Scale alone. > > >Matt >mbittner@juno.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:36:31 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Comment on this list Message-ID: <199704251936.PAA11085@fw.true.net> The friendship in this list reminds me of Disney's film back in the 30th. "Los Tres Caballeros" Specially as I live in South America At 02:29 PM 25-04-97 -0400, you wrote: The other lists I run have >had some times where I've had to kill a flame war here and there. > Shouldn't we sue him for bigamy ? SALUDOS ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:29:26 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Flying Machines Press Message-ID: <970425162854_1455740828@emout19.mail.aol.com> Hi All Just spoke to Flying Machines Press this morning. French Aircraft of WWI -book just came off the press'. They hope to be shipping in a week or so. The also have a new soft-cover series due out this summer Great War Aircraft in Profile Series Vol 1 : Sikorsky S-16 Four Pages Color, Scale Drawings, 35 Photos , 32 Pages Due Summer 97 Vol: 2 Hansa-Brandenburg D.1 Four Pages Color, Scale Drawings 75 Photos, 48 pages Due Autumn 97 Prices TBA Rosemont Hobby Will Accept Pre-orders All Whom ordered the French Book from Rosemont we will be shipping next week. Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:30:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Your Basic non-Joe Camel Message-ID: <970425163042_-1300627810@emout15.mail.aol.com> I agree Smer kit's the best buy. Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:52:45 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh JN-4 Message-ID: <1997Apr25.135100.1155.1504910@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Any work done on the cockpit interiors or the OX engine? Paul, I painted the interior with the brown and fabric colors, framed in the cockpit with HO scale 2"x 2" wood by Northeastern and drew in the wire bracing directly on the cockpit walls with a .005 Micron pen (looks good to me was getting tired of the ceramic wire coming loose) narrowed the kits seats and will add seat belts. Haven't added instrument panel yet looking for good dial faces. I'm am somewhat a novice at rigging with fishing line although the .006 line looks great after painting/ straining with Floquil's Gunmetal paint. Peter Fedders here in St. Louis did a Taube in 1/48th and to me is THE rigging master will ask him for some tips. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:19:13 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh JN-4 Message-ID: <199704252127.QAA18117@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Charles responded: > Paul, I painted the interior with the brown and fabric colors, framed > in the cockpit with HO scale 2"x 2" wood by Northeastern and drew in the > wire bracing directly on the cockpit walls with a .005 Micron pen (looks good > to me was getting tired of the ceramic wire coming loose) narrowed the > kits seats and will add seat belts. Haven't added instrument panel yet > looking for good dial faces. I'm am somewhat a novice at rigging > with fishing line although the .006 line looks great after painting/ > straining with Floquil's Gunmetal paint. Peter Fedders here in St. Louis > did a Taube in 1/48th and to me is THE rigging master will ask him for some > tips. Charles: Thanks for the information! Drawing the wires inside the cockpit would definitely help out when handling the assemblies. You are giving me the inspiration to start the kit after waiting many years to tackle it. I have had some luck making my own instrument panels, should you be unable to find any decent instrument faces. I use white styrene, and attach the bezels found on the Tom's Modelworks brass sets. After painting the panel and bezels, I paint inside the bezels black. When everything is dry, I take a very sharp, fine pointed disecting needle and *carefully* scratch in the markings, allowing the white to show through. Then a drop of clear gloss goes on to simulate the glass. Works pretty good, unless the dials should have black markings and white faces. I would be interested in any information on the rigging procedure. Bill Devins suggested this to me several years ago, but I never got the hang of it. I may be missing something in my application attempts. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:30:00 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh JN-4 Message-ID: <1997Apr25.142632.1155.1505059@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Charles, what type/brand of screen wire do you use for radiator mesh? I was thinking of using some type of screen to replace the molded radiator on a Monogram DVII model, but couldn't find anything suitable. We had a hobby shop here in St. Louis go out of business (retirement), I bought a package of extremely fine wire mesh that I cut with a small scissors. I pressed it against the molded lip on the raditor to get give me an outline and began cutting 'trial and fit' until it fit. I then acc'd the mesh in in the four corners. I know that I tossed the manufacture's label when I opened it. It was in the section of the hobby shop that had parts for plastic model racing cars, if this helps. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:33:13 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: 1/48th dial faces Message-ID: <1997Apr25.143145.1155.1505077@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Does anyone have a good recommendation for 1/48th WWI instrument dial faces? are there same in the WWII market that are adaptable for our use? thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:42:10 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <33613342.7F11@interaccess.com> Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > > mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > > > > > I think that if you plan on reducing them to 1/72nd, I will let > > > you borrom my Gotha Windsock Special. If you did do it in > > > 1/72nd as well, I would buy at least one set, and I'm sure others > > > who build in the Correct Scale would buy it as well. > > > > > > Matt > > > mbittner@juno.com > > > > Kevin responded: > > OK, I suppose I can dribble drippings down to the poor. > > Kevin W. > > Nice comeback, Kevin. I would be interested in a set in 1/48 scale > for myself. I have a 3 volume set of paperback books, Aircraft > Archives I believe, that have some sketches and photos of the Gotha. > I could make copies for you or another soul willing to do the > artwork. I don't know how accurate the drawings are, but > they do include interior drawings. > > Paul That would be great, Paul. I don't mind doing the drawings. I think I remember something from my engineering courses. If you can make copies, that would be best. This is starting to sound fun. I think. I will need to stell myself and grit my teeth though to do something in 1/7...uh, that other scale. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:48:08 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Gotha Photoetch Message-ID: <336134A8.32EE@interaccess.com> Jesse Thorn wrote: > > >Whoa....one at a time, guys. Gotha first, if that works, we'll go from > >there. I was also thinking of the side engine nacelle panels with the > >louvers and inspection panels. Also the top of the scarfe ring. Then > >instrument panel, rudder pedals, bomb release, gas tank mounts, radiator > >parts, control horns, control assembly on the outside of the fuselage. > > How about the bomb racks, too? Yup. I was just giving examples of what came to mind. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 509 *********************