WWI Digest 472 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wire wheels and 7 cylinders by Alberto Rada 2) Re: one and only? by Alberto Rada 3) Re: one and only? by "S.M. Head" 4) Re: Re[2]: Lt. Victor Hafner's D.V 5350/17 (was Pascha Albatros by "Rob " 5) RE: one and only? by Shane Weier 6) Re: one and only? by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 7) Re: one and only? by Alberto Rada 8) Re: one and only? by Kevin Wenker 9) RE: one and only? by "William B. Bacon, Jr." 10) RE: one and only? by "Erik" 11) RE: one and only? by "Rob " 12) RE: one and only? by "Rob " 13) Re: one and only? by "Valenciano . Jose" 14) RE: one and only? by "S.M. Head" 15) Re: Aurora kits by Sandy Adam 16) Re: Albatros help and Museum visit. by Sandy Adam 17) Re: Aurora kits by Tom Eisenhour 18) Re: Aurora kits by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 19) Re: Aurora kits - Reviews? by Pedro Soares 20) Texas Modelers - Re: one and only? by Jack Berlien 21) Off Topic but... Advice on upgrading to Wife 1.0 by Sandy Adam 22) Re: Aurora kits by Sandy Adam 23) Re: Aurora kits by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:52:11 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Wire wheels and 7 cylinders Message-ID: <199703200252.WAA25097@fw.true.net> At 06:24 PM 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >Who makes the best brass etched wire wheels in 1/48th? I like the set that >comes with the Eduard 1/48th Eindecker but these >wheels were not included in any of their other models I've purchased. Also am >looking for a 7 cylinder rotary to put under a Morane >type H any ideas for an engine (metal or resin)? > >Thanks > Tom's Modelworks has set 205 spoke wheels, only the spokes, its ok maybe a little bit thinnish, Fotocut are very good Aeroclub will have the engine, and I am not sure but I think Atlee has them too. Sopwith Hobbies carry these lines and John Roll too For which models do you want them? Bravo for the 48th Squadron SALUDOS ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:58:46 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: <199703200258.WAA25242@fw.true.net> At 05:41 PM 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >Kevin, Rob, > I thank you for your heartfelt messages. > >I have some modeller friends in Japan. >But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. >Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each other. >I feel more lonely if I have subscribed in this list. >Thank you for all! > >Cheers! >Hiro. > > Hey , don't feel so bad about it, I am the only WW I modeler in Venezuela, and as far as the list is concerned in South America, but this has it's benefits, in all the national tournaments and clubs, no color police, same thing with you I suppose, no one to tell you that that's not the right Metheum etc. nice isn't it ? Don't brag about your English, mine is worst SALUDOS ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:58:30 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: <9703192300.aa14600@mail.iapc.net> >At 05:41 PM 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >>Kevin, Rob, >> I thank you for your heartfelt messages. >> >>I have some modeller friends in Japan. >>But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. >>Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each other. >>I feel more lonely if I have subscribed in this list. >>Thank you for all! >> >>Cheers! >>Hiro. Hello Hiro! You are not alone, my friend. Even here in Texas WWI modelers are few. We have over 100 members in our IPMS chapter and only two of us are really active WWI modelers! Most everyone builds German, American, or Japanese WWII aircraft. I do feel that the members of this list are a great help and I consider all of them friends! We have a fine "club" here! Cheers! Scott H ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) IPMS/USA #32841 "Make it idiot proof - IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum and someone will make a better idiot!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:52:56 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: Lt. Victor Hafner's D.V 5350/17 (was Pascha Albatros Message-ID: <199703200357.WAA02197@cliff.cris.com> Riordan: You write > Feldgrau is possibly gray-green, similar to WWII Luftwaffe RLM 02. > Is there any written reference to tan being applied on Pasha aircraft? > I guessed the lighter color might be feldgrau as it was apparently commo= n and > quite possibly what was used on D.III D.636/17. As a fellow lover of the obscure and recherch=E9, I hate to sound a sceptical note. But what makes you think these airplanes were anything but the standard mauve/green, possibly severely sun damaged? While nothing is impossible given the relative absence of color film in 1914-18, the Germans had a relatively modest presence in the Near East= and no major overseas colonies, so they had little incentive to come up wi= th special finishes. I don't remember ever seeing anything special about Turkish airplanes--just standard German finish. The British on the were in Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, Somaliland, and, above all, India. So they n= eeded PC12. I'd be especially sceptical about any feldgrau schemes (though maybe green could fade to that color). If it is the grey I am thinking of, it was probably a pigmented oil varnish or enamel suitable for metal panels and, perhaps, wood. It would not have been a fabric dope. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:13:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: one and only? Message-ID: Scott, > >> Even here in Texas WWI modelers are few. We >>have over 100 members in our IPMS chapter and only two of us are really >>active WWI modelers! Most everyone builds German, American, or Japanese >>WWII aircraft. Heck, my guess is that *Austin* is the most rabidly pro-WW1 subject city in Texas. I can name 3 list members who build WW1 planes (or would if he got off his duff ;-) ) and live there. Anyone care to tell me if any other city provides more list members? OTOH, in Brisbane, a little larger city, I know of one other regular builder, and the rest are either entirely uninterested or will build a stringbag once in a while to remind themselves why they usually don't. :-( > >>I do feel that the members of this list are a great help and I consider all >>of them friends! We have a fine "club" here! Agreed entirely. Maybe some time I can make a grand tour and meet a few of them face to face - a damn fine fantasy IMHO Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:06:43 -0600 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: <19970320042008.AAA14258@default> I consider myself lucky to be in a chapter in Abilene that has two WW I modelers. At one time three of the twelve members were WW I enthusiasts, but one of the three moved to Seattle. I wonder what it would be like to be in a chapter with 100 modelers...... Paul H ---------- > From: S.M. Head > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: one and only? > Date: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 9:59 PM > > >At 05:41 PM 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: > >>Kevin, Rob, > >> I thank you for your heartfelt messages. > >> > >>I have some modeller friends in Japan. > >>But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. > >>Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each other. > >>I feel more lonely if I have subscribed in this list. > >>Thank you for all! > >> > >>Cheers! > >>Hiro. > > Hello Hiro! > > You are not alone, my friend. Even here in Texas WWI modelers are few. We > have over 100 members in our IPMS chapter and only two of us are really > active WWI modelers! Most everyone builds German, American, or Japanese > WWII aircraft. > > I do feel that the members of this list are a great help and I consider all > of them friends! We have a fine "club" here! > > Cheers! > > Scott H > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) > IPMS/USA #32841 "Make it idiot proof - > IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum and someone will make a > better idiot!" > http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:40:33 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: <199703200440.AAA27635@fw.true.net> At 11:23 PM 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >I consider myself lucky to be in a chapter in Abilene that has two WW I >modelers. At one time three of the twelve members were WW I enthusiasts, >but one of the three moved to Seattle. I wonder what it would be like to >be in a chapter with 100 modelers...... > >Paul H WW III Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:37:14 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: <3330BEFA.50CC@interaccess.com> Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > Kevin, Rob, > I thank you for your heartfelt messages. > > I have some modeller friends in Japan. > But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. > Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each other. > I feel more lonely if I have subscribed in this list. > Thank you for all! > > Cheers! > Hiro. Hiro, You are more than welcome, but no thanks are needed. My sister and nieces lived in Japan (near Kyoto) for 9 years; she has many friends there and was always treated kindly. Anytime you want to discuss anything, especially WWI airplanes, please write. Never feel embarassed by your English. It is an achievement to be proud of. I wish more Americans would learn of other cultures. We are too narrow in our cultural view. We Americans have much to learn, but are too foten too prideful to do so. Best Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:31:08 -0600 From: "William B. Bacon, Jr." To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: one and only? Message-ID: <01BC34BD.B044E660@ESPRESSO.NETJAVA.NET> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC34BD.B044E660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiro, So far as I know, I am the only WWI modeler in the Panhandle of Texas. = Somebody please prove me wrong. Abiline and Carrolton are the closest = and that's 300+ miles. Don't worry about your English. It's great. = Have your friends goive us a chance, we would love to hear from them. Cheers, Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ---------- From: Kevin Wenker Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 10:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: one and only? Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: >=20 > Kevin, Rob, > I thank you for your heartfelt messages. >=20 > I have some modeller friends in Japan. > But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. > Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each = other. > I feel more lonely if I have subscribed in this list. > Thank you for all! >=20 > Cheers! > Hiro. Hiro, You are more than welcome, but no thanks are needed. My sister and=20 nieces lived in Japan (near Kyoto) for 9 years; she has many friends=20 there and was always treated kindly. Anytime you want to discuss=20 anything, especially WWI airplanes, please write. Never feel embarassed = by your English. It is an achievement to be proud of. I wish more=20 Americans would learn of other cultures. We are too narrow in our=20 cultural view. We Americans have much to learn, but are too foten too=20 prideful to do so. 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Message-ID: <199703200620.WAA16738@emerald.oz.net> On 19 Mar 97, Shane Weier heroically postulated: > Heck, my guess is that *Austin* is the most rabidly pro-WW1 subject city > in Texas. I can name 3 list members who build WW1 planes (or would if he > got off his duff ;-) ) and live there. > > Anyone care to tell me if any other city provides more list members? > It would depend on exactly how you drew the lines, but I'd bet the 'Seattle area' is close to the top. How many are we now? 4-5? > Agreed entirely. Maybe some time I can make a grand tour and meet a few > of them face to face - a damn fine fantasy IMHO Sure is far for some of you guys, but Nats. might be a good try, methinks. Cheers, Erik ........................................................................ "Mr.Anchovy, perhaps you could move *towards* 'Lion Taming' via Banking, or even Insurance?..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:06:55 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: RE: one and only? Message-ID: <199703200711.CAA06759@newman.concentric.net> > On 19 Mar 97, Shane Weier heroically postulated: > > > Heck, my guess is that *Austin* is the most rabidly pro-WW1 subject city > > in Texas. I can name 3 list members who build WW1 planes (or would if he > > got off his duff ;-) ) and live there. > > > > Anyone care to tell me if any other city provides more list members? > > > It would depend on exactly how you drew the lines, but I'd bet the > 'Seattle area' is close to the top. How many are we now? 4-5? We have five that I know of in the Denver metro area. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:10:07 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: RE: one and only? Message-ID: <199703200714.CAA07620@newman.concentric.net> > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:34:25 -0500 Bill writes > So far as I know, I am the only WWI modeler in the Panhandle of >Texas. ... Abiline and Carrolton are the closest and that's 300+ >miles. Heck. I've been to the Texas panhande, and 300+ miles away is practically next door. To a real Texan, it's probably only a 2-hr drive at that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:50:35 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: one and only? Message-ID: > >I have some modeller friends in Japan. > >But nobody of them has interest in WWI modeling. Me too. > >Sometime, I envy some list members who can see and talk directly each other. Well, I've learned to be happy with emailing and snail mail exchanges. There's an air compressor over here that I wanted Shane over in Australia to check out but I still haven't learned how to Uuencode the thing. What I miss is being part of the library. But with everybody willng to share info I'm happy. > >Thank you for all! Hiro's last line is my sentiment as well. THANK YOU FOR ALL! THANK YOU TO ALL! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:52:42 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: RE: one and only? Message-ID: <9703200301.aa17584@mail.iapc.net> >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:34:25 -0500 >Bill writes >> So far as I know, I am the only WWI modeler in the Panhandle of >>Texas. ... Abiline and Carrolton are the closest and that's 300+ >>miles. > >Heck. I've been to the Texas panhande, and 300+ miles away is >practically next door. To a real Texan, it's probably only a 2-hr >drive at that. Houston to San Antonio last month- 2 hours 35 minutes and one speeding ticket in Columbus! Practically next door! Just sent in the money today... Dried the paint on one of my models by tying it off to the back of the car and gliding it! WAY out of scale speed, eh? (Yet another tall Texas tale, got some marshland in Arizona for sale too!) __ / \ |____| \___|____|___/ - - ] {`/ } _( \_/ Scott H ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) IPMS/USA #32841 "Make it idiot proof - IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum and someone will make a better idiot!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:45:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Aurora kits Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Mark Alan Johnson wrote: > Thank you for your comments concerning the Aurora WWI kits. > If anyone has anymore information, opinions , and/or views, I > sure would like to hear some more (I hope this isn't just my > fixation). Hi Mark and let me add a Scottish welcome to everybody else's. Don't worry about being fixated on the old Aurora classics - I'm just the same. Back in the sixties when I was avidly spending my pocket money on model kits, Aurora models were an exotic treasure which turned up in the most unexpected places. When my first kits were the first Airfix releases or early Frog fit-the-box jobs, the Aurora releases appeared with coloured AND black plastic - they looked good even unpainted. They were BIG and my 1/48 roots were established even then, they formed a uniform series that you could collect and add to, and they were relatively unexpensive - also you could see through the bag what you were getting. I must have bought dozens of Dr1's, SE5s and Camels, although my dislike of the Albatros shape probably stems from the overfat Aurora machine at that time. When the second series - Pfalz, Nie28 etc appeared -you realised that there was going to be an extensive range and suddenly all your pals had them as well. Dogfights! And then the real exotica appeared in boxes - Sopwith Tripe, lots of 2-seaters. Nirvana! Even now, when I go to any old model shop, my first question is - any old Aurora kits? I have several of most of the range, built and unbuilt, but will add more to the stockpile at any chance if the price is reasonable. Although my great disappointment is that I have never managed to get an F2B - OK I know its a lousy kit - but I passed up on one in a dingy old shop in Dundee way back in short trousers time (I think I bought one of the Aurora 3 Musketeer figures instead) an I have never seen one since. I was offered one recently missing the box and some bits but thought 50GBP was just plain silly. I am rabbiting on too long - but I think you see that others have the fixation too. Yes, there are much better kits available now, but these were and are classics. Hope you enjoy the list (but watch out for the brain surgeons) Sandy Crieff Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:58:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros help and Museum visit. Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Bill Shatzer wrote: > >soup-plate-sized yellow polka dots! The number was 769/17 and I wonder if > > Are you sure the s/n wasn't 796/17? If so, the description fits the > Albatross D.III of Ltn d Reserve George Hermann Paul Noth of > Jasta Boelcke whose aircraft was described as "green with yellow > spots". Noth was downed on May 19, 1917 by Lt. W. M. Fry of > No. 60 Sqdn near Gouy-en-Ternois and Albatros D.III 796/17 was > assigned RFC "capture number" G39. Noth was taken POW and later > died of his wounds. > > The remainder of the markings would likely have consisted of a > white tail as this was the Jasta marking being used by Jasta > 2 (Boelcke) during the spring/summer of 1917. The yellow spots > were apparently Noth's personal markings. That sounds so near that I can't imagine its not the right plane. I have my notepad in front of me and have written down 769/17 but I was looking sideways at the (vertical) notation and may have mistaken it. The Albatross is misspelt and on the inside so it appears to be a later addition and could perhaps be a mistake. If anyone has detail of a 769/17 perhaps they could check markings otherwise it sounds like Noth's aircraft. Is there any cross ref for 796/17 to confirm that Noth was 796 rather than 769? I assume the wings would have been green/mauve and blue underneath, with grey or metal nose panels, or do you have any other thoughts on this? Fantastic help Bill, many thanks - could you perhaps let me know your source and I shall pass the information on to the Museum, who knew nothing of the aircraft apart from the fact it was an Albatros DIII. I'm sure they would be delighted to add this to the display. Again many thanks. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:04:08 -0800 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora kits Message-ID: <33315FF7.1384@swbell.net> Sandy Adam wrote: > Hi Mark and let me add a Scottish welcome to everybody else's. > Don't worry about being fixated on the old Aurora classics - I'm just the > same. Until lately, I thought I was the only one who had a sentimental attachment to those old Aurora kits. Now we've got a regular support group. Each of the kits has a vivid memory associated with it. The Nie. 11 will always remind me of my aunt and grandmother taking me to Perry's five-and-ten cent store on a late Saturday afternoon; the Albatros "D-3", of my seventh birthday and the Houston zoo. I could go on but you get the picture. I loved those kits but I'm not sure whether I ever finished one because of the damned upper wing! How do you make it stay up? It was years before I discovered the answer: patience. IMHO Aurora/Glencoe kits are the best remedy for Advanced Modelers Syndrome. Get the SPAD, Nie. 28, or Pfalz and just slap it together without filling seams or painting. Decals are optional. Maximum time allowed: 6 hours. In other words, build it just like you did when you were first learning to put models together. You'll feel like a new man/woman/person/organism! > They were BIG and my 1/48 roots were established even then, they formed a > uniform series that you could collect and add to, and they were relatively > unexpensive - also you could see through the bag what you were getting. In the UK, Aurora kits were bagged? Thanks for the memories, Sandy! Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:52:07 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora kits Message-ID: <199703201356.HAA21162@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> > On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Mark Alan Johnson wrote: > > Thank you for your comments concerning the Aurora WWI kits. > > If anyone has anymore information, opinions , and/or views, I > > sure would like to hear some more (I hope this isn't just my > > fixation). > I, too, must admit that I am an Auroraholic. This stems from my childhood back in the sixties. With my meager allowance, I usually could only afford the cheaper Hawk kits, their Neiuport being one of my earliest attempts at model building. When I had enough money, an Aurora kit was a real treat. Even though we modelers are getting more demanding for accuracy and details, I still enjoy building one of these kits with just adding a little detail to the cockpit area. I guess it brings back thoughts of a simpler time, when my only concern was to build the kit as fast as I could, in order to place it on my dresser. My personnal belief is that model building should be enjoyed, and sometimes I find searching for photos, worrying about accurate colors, etc., much too stressful, especially after a full day's work. These kits offer what I feel to be just plain fun. Besides, my wife doesn't know the errors they contain, so what the heck! She still enjoys looking at them like I do. On another subject, there are only two or three of us in our IPMS club that build biplanes, let alone WWI aircraft. Tail-burners seem to be the preferred subjects. I guess they don't know what they are missing! Paul Schwartzkopf A project that starts good ends badly, a project that starts bad ends worse. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:14:13 +0000 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora kits - Reviews? Message-ID: <33314635.33BB@anaep.pt> Jack Berlien wrote: >> > For those of us (beginners or otherwise) who are building the Smer/Aurora > (or Airfix - I guess I gave myself away as a 1/48th 'er) > kits, I would love to see some mini-reviews done by those more experienced > members who have built the kits. These reviews might identify the major > flaws in each kit, and briefly describe what was done to correct them. I > would personally prefer to build these more-or-less as-is, rather than, say > discard 75% of the kit and scratchbuild the rest. I am interested, though, > in the simpler changes like removing cast on markings, adding control horns, > detaching/repositioning rudders and elevators, removing the "dashboard" from > the DRI (for example), adding scratchbuilt details, etc. I think this would > be useful to all those who buy the cheaper kits, for practice or otherwise, > and are interested in improving them to make a decent model out of it. > > These would be similar to what has been done already on a few kits, like how > Pedro described the process of building his Airfix Pup, and they could be > less detailed than Matt's Nieuport 17 conversion artical. > > Any volunteers? I would do the Smer DRI, although I'm far from experienced, > and I didn't do anything to the cockpit, but I did modify it quite a bit and > added a few scratchbuilt details. If you just glanced at it, it might pass > for a roughly built DML kit! > > Best regards, > > jack I guess that this topic was already mentioned here on the list by others but anyway I think we could improve a little on Jack's suggestion and ask everybody on the list to post a message for each finished model with a short description of what they consider to be of interest to the group. Such things as additions to the basic kit (scratchbuild details or aftermarket parts), modifications of the basic kit, techniques employed etc, etc, could then be listed and explained and I'm sure that lots of people on the list (I for one) would love to have access to this kind of info as a way to improve their skills and avoid pitfalls that others have experienced. 20 centavos worth of opinion (at the current exchange rate of the Dollar my opinion is now much more precious than when I joined this list :-) P.S. Hiro, I guess we could make a sub-group on this list, sort of the "one and only WW1 modeling guys in town" (Rob, would you be willing to come up with a badge for us? I promise I'd wear it in a decent manner, even while sleeping.... :-). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:47:59 -0800 From: Jack Berlien To: wwi Subject: Texas Modelers - Re: one and only? Message-ID: How many (if any) of you Texas modelers out there are going to the Squadron Scalefest here in Plano in May? Best regards, Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:46:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi group Subject: Off Topic but... Advice on upgrading to Wife 1.0 Message-ID: Last year a friend of mine upgraded GirlFriend 6.0 to Wife 1.0 and found that it's a memory hog leaving very little system resources for other applications. He is only now noticing that Wife 1.0 also is spawning Child-Processes which are further consuming valuable resources. No mention of this particular phenomena was included in the product brochure or the documentation, though other users have informed him that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application. Not only that, Wife 1.0 installs itself such that it is always launched at system initialization where it can monitor all other system activity. He's finding that some applications such as PokerNight 10.3, BeerBash 2.5, and PubNight 7.0 are no longer able to run, crashing the system when selected (even though they always worked fine before). At installation, Wife 1.0 automatically installs undesired Plug-Ins such as MotherInLaw 55.8 and BrotherInLaw Beta release. As a consequence system performance seems to diminish with each passing day. Some features he'd like to see in the upcoming wife 2.0: - A "Don't remind me again" button - Minimize button - An install shield feature that allows Wife 2.0 to be installed with the option to uninstall at anytime without the loss of cache and other system resources. - An option to run the network driver in promiscuous mode which would allow the systems hardware probe feature to have greater use.. I myself decided to avoid all of the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 by sticking with Girlfriend 2.0. Even here, however, I found many problems. Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 2.0 on top of Girlfriend 1.0. You must uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 first. Other users say this is a long standing bug which I should have been aware of. Apparently the versions of Girlfriend have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. You think they would have fixed such a stupid bug by now. To make matters worse, The uninstall program for Girlfriend 1.0 doesn't work very well leaving undesirable traces of the application in the system. Another annoying problem -- all versions of Girlfriend continually popup annoying messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0 ***** BUG WARNING ******** Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before executing a self - uninstallation. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient system resources. *** BUG WORK-AROUNDS *************** To avoid the above bug, try installing Mistress 1.1 on a different system and never run any file transfer applications such as Laplink 6.0. Also, beware of similar shareware applications that have been known to carry viruses that may affect Wife 1.0. Another solution would be to run Mistress 1.0 via a UseNet provider under an anonymous name. Here again, beware of the viruses which can accidentally be downloaded from the UseNet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:09:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Aurora kits Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Tom Eisenhour wrote: > In the UK, Aurora kits were bagged? Now you've surprised me Tom! The first six - SE, Camel, Nie11, Alb, Dr1, D7 and the next three - Nie28, SPAD, Pfalz - came in bags with terrific "death or glory" colour artwork on the leaflet and great colour pictures of other Aurora kits inside. This kept me going back to the newsagent/toystore and demanding when they would get the Gold Knight of Nice, or the Cunningham sports car, or the Stalin tank - or more usually the SPAD, which I never saw till much later. Did these originals come in boxes in the US? The next releases Sop Tripe etc were in short boxes and later ones AlbCII etc in long boxes, then much later in square K&B boxes, but I thought all the early ones were in bags. One of the Datafiles (F1 Camel I think) has picture of "bag" artwork but as Windsock is UK based perhaps that is to be expected. They used to cost 3 shillings which equates to about 10 cents US today! and before you all say that everything has gone up in price - the PC that is accepting this text at this moment would probably have cost 10 zillion dollars then! I'd love to see a comprehensive book on Aurora, listing all there products: I know about Brad Hansen, but the wider subjects would be equally intersting. I have a superb volume on Frog - does anyone know of anything similar on Aurora? Thanks for setting me off on rose-tinted territory again, Tom. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:33:02 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Aurora kits Message-ID: >On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Tom Eisenhour wrote: >> In the UK, Aurora kits were bagged? Sandy replied: >Now you've surprised me Tom! The first six - SE, Camel, Nie11, Alb, Dr1, >D7 and the next three - Nie28, SPAD, Pfalz - came in bags with terrific >"death or glory" colour artwork on the leaflet and great colour pictures >of other Aurora kits inside. This kept me going back to the >newsagent/toystore and demanding when they would get the Gold Knight of >Nice, or the Cunningham sports car, or the Stalin tank - or more usually >the SPAD, which I never saw till much later. >Did these originals come in boxes in the US? >The next releases Sop Tripe etc were in short boxes and later ones AlbCII >etc in long boxes, then much later in square K&B boxes, but I thought all >the early ones were in bags. FWIW, I never saw "bagged" Aurora kits in the U.S., this is not to say that they didn't exist. Even the infamous Me- 1.. .ooops, you know what I mean, the thing molded in LURID metallic burgandy plastic rated its own box. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu P.S. The Frog book you mention Sandy is excellent. Wish I had one. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 472 *********************