WWI Digest 463 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: TV Show by "William B. Bacon, Jr." 2) Re: Nationals Idea by "Rob " 3) Re: I'm back by Pedro Soares 4) Re: Starting The Library by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 5) Re: Nationals Idea by Tom Eisenhour 6) Re: Nationals Idea / Silver EIII by Tom Eisenhour 7) Re: I'm back by aew (Allan Wright) 8) Sunday, 11 March 1917, Paris by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 9) Magazines FS: Windsock, etc... by models@pacbell.net 10) Re: Magazines FS: Windsock, etc... by aero@baynet.net (Jim Lyzun) 11) Re: Nieuport 28 marking by mbittner@juno.com 12) Re: Nationals Idea by GRBroman@aol.com 13) Re: Nationals Idea / Silver EIII by "Stuart L. Malone" 14) slightly off topic query by "Valenciano . Jose" 15) Re: slightly off topic query by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 16) Re: slightly off topic query by aero@baynet.net (Jim Lyzun) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:09:33 -0600 From: "William B. Bacon, Jr." To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" Subject: Re: TV Show Message-ID: <01BC2DB0.92D41D80@NJ095.NETJAVA.NET> Michel, No charge and glad to help. The tape is first generation with all the = adverisments included. I have made myself and edited copy so keep the = tape. The postage would be moe than it is worth. It all fit ;perfectly = on a BASF T-180 tape. Edited, it should fit on a T-130. I figure 45 min per hour after = editing for commercial off the air taping. You can leave out the = credits for the first two episodes. Glad I could help. May be needing something from you someday. Cheers, Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:53:03 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703110757.CAA00258@cliff.cris.com> No promises yet, but I'm working on a D'Annunzio graphic. It will be all one color for cheapness (silhouettes). Leaflets will be falling and one will have "WW I on the Web" with the FAQ URL and the Chandelle URL . I should be done by the weekend and will post a gif to Alan. Perhaps he can post it and the other submissions somewhere for member comments? Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:57:52 +0000 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <33251E90.1573@anaep.pt> Allan Wright wrote: > This makes sence - I forgot you're over the pond and airmail is expensive. > Sure, send the negatives. I'll get prints done and probably have the photo > lab make a photo CD of them. That'll save me the trouble of scanning them > in. > > -Al > Al, Please send me your snail mail address, so that I can get the stuff on the mail tomorrow. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:03:47 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Starting The Library Message-ID: Mike replies: > This is one of my favorites also. O keep it in the office for light >reading while a jury is out deliberating. I particularly like the color >pictures of the airplanes. Mike, ...Deliberating on the accuracy of the colour plates? Or perhaps you're a lawyer! Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:56:03 -0800 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <33257283.6DB7@swbell.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > So come on, people, vote for your favorite idea. Although the > jacket is a good idea, I don't think it's economically feasible. > I have no idea how many numbers of jackets it takes to reach an > affordable price. The pin's a great idea - that gets my vote. A reduced PLM,right? Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:15:10 -0800 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea / Silver EIII Message-ID: <332576FE.3FDD@swbell.net> Mary-Ann/Michael wrote: > 2, What does nashledanou mean? I've been waiting for Stuart to answer this question, since he was the one who wrote it but since he hasn't come forward, I'll tell you what it means. It's Czech for "see you later". Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:11:53 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <199703111311.IAA14151@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Please send me your snail mail address, so that I can get the stuff on > the mail tomorrow. Allan Wright Morse Hall Rm. 332 UNH/Durham NH 03824-3525 USA -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:48:20 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Sunday, 11 March 1917, Paris Message-ID: <33259AE4.71EC@host.dmsc.net> 951. Dandy day and quite warm and springlike. Guess the winter has run away now for good. Went to Holy communion service at 8:30 at the Amer. Church of the Holy Trinity and then again with Mrs Parker for the regular 10:30 service. Lunch with Parkers at the hotel. Walked around to see Paul Rockwell in p.m. but found that he and his wife are out of town on some trip. Went over and called upon Mr and Mrs Guerquin who were very glad to see me. Walked back to the hotel and dressed up and went over for dinner with Mrs and Raymond Harper at their home. They had several of their freinds there and had a good time altho I missed Helen. She is still visiting friends in Italy and won't return until about Easter. Back at Hotel late in evening rather tired. Am due back at the Escadrille to-morrow and shall take the 1:15 train after lunch. Saw Mrs Hoskier, Ronald's mother at the church this morning. He certainly is lucky to have his father and mother over here where he can see and be with them often. Wish my dear little Mother was here--and beloved Gertrude also. I'd be a million times more contented and happy. Wilson at last issued the order for the arming and guarding of American merchantmen yesterday. Its about time he sat up and did some active work. from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:22:50 -0800 From: models@pacbell.net To: wwi Subject: Magazines FS: Windsock, etc... Message-ID: <332594EA.5F69@pacbell.net> MAGAZINES F/S Windsock Single issues: V. 7 #1 & #2, V. 9 #1 V. 10 #5 (seaplane issue), V. 11 #5 & #6 V. 12 #1 Volumes: V. 2-6 complete Total issues: 37 Price: $150 World War One Aero Single issues: #92, #94, #100 Volumes: #102-143 #150-151 Total issues: 46 Price: $100 Cross & Cockade Volumes: V.19 1-4 V.20 1-4 Total issues: 8 Price: $30 Skyways Volumes: #1-6 Total issues: 6 Price: $20 Airwars 1919-1939 Single issue: #6 Price: $4 Small Air Forces Observer Single issues: V.1 #2 & #4, V.2 #3, V.4 #1 & #4 V.6 #2 & #3 Volumes: V.9 - V.20 Total issues: 56 Price: $100 All magazines are in mint condition and include paint chips where applicable. Shipping is additional and is at the buyers choice as to method. Charles Stephanian models@pacbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:37:24 -0500 From: aero@baynet.net (Jim Lyzun) To: wwi Subject: Re: Magazines FS: Windsock, etc... Message-ID: <199703111837.NAA12243@focus.baynet.net> >Small Air Forces Observer > Single issues: V.1 #2 & #4, V.2 #3, V.4 #4 > V.6 #2 & #3 > Volumes: V.9 - V.12 > Total issues: 22 > >All magazines are in mint condition and include paint chips where applicable. Shipping >is additional and is at the buyers choice as to method. > >Charles Stephanian >models@pacbell.net > Would you be interested in selling just the ones I've indicated above? Jim Lyzun ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:40:54 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nieuport 28 marking Message-ID: <19970311.174327.13510.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:20:39 -0500 "William B. Bacon, Jr." writes: > My error, I assumed you were building a SPAD. The Nieu 28 had > the creckerboard parallel to the a/c longitudinal axis. Will > enclose that page too. Looking at the Datafile the checkerboard > would lie along the third rib from the wing center line. The > Knight painting on the Datafile shows it on the underside of the > starboard wing. I agree that the SuperScale USAS roundels are > terrible. Your opinion on RFC-RAF roundels: should the blue be > the dark blue we see in the kits or closer to cobalt blue. > SuperScale (Microscale) has done the both ways. Again, the Spad > checkerboard is at 45 degree angle (slanted outboard) and like > the checkerboard on the Nieu 28 rather than as shown on the Spad > 13 Datafile. Dang!! Using your original message, I already applied the decal diagonally. Oh well, since there are no pictures of the upper wing that I know of of the Nie.28 I'm doing, who can call me on it? ;-) Plus, it looks cool diagonally. As far as RFC roundels, I've used Almark's examples, and I think they look great. I would hazard "cobalt blue". Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:21:21 -0500 (EST) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <970311192011_1018485773@emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-03-11 00:28:04 EST, you write: << Let me know what you think. Does anyone have a accurate number of how many badges we may need? Do we want to consider additional ones for those who support our madness and put up with the side trips to see an airplane/tank or go to a contest in the middle og the family vacation, or on Mothers Day? Just a thought. John >> John, sounds good to me. I will be at the Nationals this year with Frau und Familie in tow. (en ecehelon? :)) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:42:44 +0000 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea / Silver EIII Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970311214229.0068b6b0@sound.net> At 07:39 AM 3/11/97 -0500, you wrote: >Mary-Ann/Michael wrote: > >> 2, What does nashledanou mean? > >I've been waiting for Stuart to answer this question, since he was the >one who wrote it but since he hasn't come forward, I'll tell you what it >means. It's Czech for "see you later". > >Tom Eisenhour >eisen@swbell.net > > Ano! Ano! I was just waiting for someone to throw something into the mix! I thought maybe Matt might get this one, since he is onle a scant 80 miles away from the Czech capital of the U.S., and he resides in a town that itself once had quite a thriving Czech community on the south side... BTW, Tom, I'm just picking up the language, and what I've read, Zatim nashledanou is 'see you later', while just nashledanou is 'goodbye'. Can you clarify in personal email? ZATIM nashledanou Stuart L. Malone halifax@sound.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:28:49 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: wwi Subject: slightly off topic query Message-ID: What were the colors of the CURTISS ORIOLE as it left the factory? >From the photos: All fabric areas light colored, clear doped maybe? Fuselage is dark colored, dark stained wood maybe? Wheels, light colored. This aircraft flew here in the Philippines. I only have very general 3 views with an inline engine and rounded wingtips and horizontal tail. The one that flew here had a Jenny engine, square tips and tail. So, anyone out there know the colours of this bird? Ok, ok, it's not exactly WWI but it was produced just after the war. It looks very much like a German 2-seater due to it's ply fuselage. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:08:20 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: slightly off topic query Message-ID: Joey writes: >What were the colors of the CURTISS ORIOLE as it left the factory? > >>From the photos: >All fabric areas light colored, clear doped maybe? >Fuselage is dark colored, dark stained wood maybe? >Wheels, light colored. > >This aircraft flew here in the Philippines. >I only have very general 3 views with an inline engine and rounded >wingtips and horizontal tail. > >The one that flew here had a Jenny engine, square tips and tail. > >So, anyone out there know the colours of this bird? > >Ok, ok, it's not exactly WWI but it was produced just after the war. > >It looks very much like a German 2-seater due to it's ply fuselage. I can find some details on this in a couple of WW I Aeros. One thing it probably didn't have was clear dope on the finish. By the time this a/c was made the damaging effects of UV on fabric were well appreciated. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:33:07 -0500 From: aero@baynet.net (Jim Lyzun) To: wwi Subject: Re: slightly off topic query Message-ID: <199703120533.AAA03261@focus.baynet.net> > >What were the colors of the CURTISS ORIOLE as it left the factory? > >>From the photos: >All fabric areas light colored, clear doped maybe? >Fuselage is dark colored, dark stained wood maybe? >Wheels, light colored. Joey, The Minnesota Air National Guard built an Oriole almost from scratch several years ago to commemorate the aircraft flown by their first CO. The aircraft was painted in the contemporary scheme of cream-coloured (which may have represented clear doped fabric) flying surfaces and orange fuselage. The wheels are light-coloured and appear to be a cream shade judging by the only photos I have in the MNANG history book. Hope this helps. Jim Lyzun ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 463 *********************