WWI Digest 458 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re[2]: Chandelle vol. 2 # 1 by "Shelley Goodwin" 2) RE: Albatros loz. by Shane Weier 3) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 4) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 5) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 6) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 7) List designator, was Nationals Idea by mbittner@juno.com 8) scratchbuilding subject by phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) 9) Re: Nationals Idea by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: Observer Becomes Participant by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 11) Re: Observer Becomes Participant by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 12) Re: scratchbuilding subject by "Shelley Goodwin" 13) Mr. Roll, got the Eduard Pfalz yet? by "Shelley Goodwin" 14) Re: Observer Becomes Participant by "S.M. Head" 15) Re: Rep : Blue Rider Decals by "Rob " 16) RE: scratchbuilding subject by Shane Weier 17) Re: Nationals Idea by "Rob " 18) Re: Blue Rider Decals by "Rob " 19) Re: Tuesday, 6 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just by "Rob " 20) Re: Observer Becomes Participant by "Rob " 21) Re: Getting started/Airbrushes by "Rob " 22) Re: scratchbuilding subject by mbittner@juno.com 23) I'm back by Pedro Soares 24) Re: Nationals Idea by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 25) Re: Nationals Idea by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 26) Re: Blue Rider Decals by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 27) Re: I'm back by aew (Allan Wright) 28) Eduard Pfalz DIII -- in box impressions by The Shannons 29) Re: Nationals Idea by Kevin Wenker 30) Wednesday, 7 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 31) TV show by Carlos Valdes 32) Re: I'm back by Alberto Rada 33) Re: Nationals Idea by michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) 34) Re: TV show by michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 12:14:35 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Chandelle vol. 2 # 1 Message-ID: <9702068576.AA857680090@mx.Ricochet.net> Bob, There are no scale plans available to my knowledge. Perhaps you could persuade Rob to draw some, assuming he could find the time. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Chandelle vol. 2 # 1 Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 3/6/97 11:36 AM Rob wrote: > > The long-promised all-WW1 issue of Chandelle is now on-line at > . It features the list's own Riordan > on the Rumpler G Types, Sounds great! Beautiful work. BTW, are there any scale plans available for the Rumpler Bombers? Would make a good complement for our AEG and Friedrichshafen in 1/72. Bob Sierra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:39:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros loz. Message-ID: Matt: Thanks to Sandy who asks: > >>WTFDTM? >>Sandy You should add this to the FAQ. (I take it that the "F" does mean FAQ Sandy? Or did you get this one from Billy Connoly? ;-) Shane > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:17:10 -0600 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: <19970307003300.AAA19476@default> I see, so your saying they may need to go back into the closet? Sounds OK to me. (that's where the models are!);-) Paul ---------- > From: mark > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars > Date: Thursday, March 06, 1997 12:42 AM > > >Hmmm......... Let me see if I follow this line of thought. > > The smaller the scale a modeler works in, the more skillful the modeler? > >Or the smaller the scale, the more impressive the result? > > > >And here I thought size didn't matter.... > > It doesn't - just make sure you're wearing your lozenge! > > >Pick a scale, and be happy. Or better yet pick two and be really happy! > > I dunno...there's some bi-scaleular people on this list, but I'm not sure > that they're really happy that way, just confused.........;-) > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:15:32 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: <199703070215.SAA18787@concord.televar.com> >>>Pick a scale, and be happy. Or better yet pick two and be really happy! >> >>I dunno...there's some bi-scaleular people on this list, but I'm not sure >>that they're really happy that way, just confused.........;-) >> >>Mark > >I don't know Mark, ever tried two scales at once? ;-)) KINKY! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: <199703070218.SAA19388@concord.televar.com> >> > 1/48 (The Breast Surgeons) >> >Bosom grabbers, Alberto, bosom. > >If you are into grabbing subatomic particles, you are able to work in a >much smaller scale than 1/72 with no problems. > >And most males would have no problem with describing themselves as, at >least attempted, bosom grabbers. Yeah, look what it did for Sen. Packwood.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:02:08 -0600 (CST) From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: Hi Fernando! Delightful analogy! That said, what kind of surgeon are you? Or do you practice some other medical discipline? John Roll Fernando typed: > 1/72 (The Brain Surgeons) > The brain surgeon is extremely skilled (and lets every other surgeon know >it) and works on the tiniest of blood vessels and structures. They are so >tiny that he requires an operating microscope to do his work. Once the >operation is finished, you can not see his work. > > 1/48 (The Breast Surgeons) > The breast surgeons work with much larger structures and therefore are >not as manually gifted as the brain surgeons. Although the brain surgeons >lord their greater skill over the breast surgeons, the breast surgeons just >smile because it is THEIR work that is going to end up on the cover of >"Cosmopolitan" magazine and that drives the brain surgeons crazy. > > Above 1/32 or above (The Orthopeadic Surgeons) > The orthopeadic surgeons are met each day at the operating room door by a >nurse whose job it is to remind them to take the chewing gum out of their >mouths since, as everybody knows, orthopeadic surgeons do not have the >dexterity to operate and chew gum at the same time. They "operate" by >making huge incisions and wildly pounding steel rods that look like >lightning rods down broken femurs with 5 pound mallets. The other surgeons >consider them "carpenters" but never say that to their face as orthopeadic >surgeons are usually 6 feet 3 inches tall, weigh 250 pounds (mostly muscle) >and have no sense of humor whatsoever. > > Best regards, > Fernando Lamas ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com phone: 612-545-0399 fax: 612-545-0899 ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 21:58:08 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: List designator, was Nationals Idea Message-ID: <19970306.210057.9062.0.mbittner@juno.com> Stuart wrote: > I have a friend who found a supplier for such things. He has > purchased single and double sided pour le merit's, along with > victoria crosses and other trinkets. They were all repros, and > not very expensive. I think the double sided medals were around > $20. Single sided were on the order of $12 to $15. Al wrote: > How about a button with the Camel Picture from the WWW page with > the URL under it? I'm not going to the Nationals but I'd like > one for when I go to wargaming conventions and local modeling > schtuff. So far, these are the only two ideas. My thought was that *everybody* on the list would get one - whatever we decide - and then when we attend an "event", we would wear them to show others that "we belong". What r.m.s. did was create a sticker that people would put on at the time of the "event". However, these are not permanent, and would probably end up costing each person again and again. I don't like that idea. Any more ideas? Any body have any idea how much Al's idea would cost? Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:24:11 -0600 From: phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) To: "post wwi" Subject: scratchbuilding subject Message-ID: <19970307033747.AAA1998@default> I'm trying to locate good drawings and photos of the Vickers FB 12. I intend to scratchbuild at least one type. Eventually, I hope to build both the FB 12a and the FB 12c. I can't explain my like for it, and I know it wasn't a pivotal A/C but it has always interested me. The models will be in either 1/48th or 1/32nd scale. I'm more than willing to pay for the cost of reproduction of the materials. Any help you guys can send my way would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Paul Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <970306224647_-1272205725@emout20.mail.aol.com> The League of WWI Aviation Historians gave out medals to all participants at the last seminar. These are to be worn at future seminars. Soon, we will look like a bunch of British veterans. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:54:26 -0600 (CST) From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: Hey! >OBTW, going along with the surgeon-related scale definitions, I have >to tell you that I also build sports cars, because they are supposed >to represent an extension ..... (actually, WW1 modelers don't need >extensions!) As one who drives a sports car, I resemble that remark! John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:54:28 -0600 (CST) From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: Um, >OBTW, going along with the surgeon-related scale definitions, I have >to tell you that I also build sports cars, because they are supposed >to represent an extension ..... (actually, WW1 modelers don't need >extensions!) Make that: "As one who drives a sports car, I resent that remark!" ;-) John ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com phone: 612-545-0399 fax: 612-545-0899 ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 20:47:58 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: scratchbuilding subject Message-ID: <9702068577.AA857710570@mx.Ricochet.net> Paul, Might there be some Freudian reason behind your affinity for this 'plane? ;-) Seriously, I can offer you the old Harleyford drawings/text and a few other odds & sods. Just post your snail male (heh) address and I'll put you at the bottom of the library mailing list. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: scratchbuilding subject Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 3/6/97 7:38 PM I'm trying to locate good drawings and photos of the Vickers FB 12. I intend to scratchbuild at least one type. Eventually, I hope to build both the FB 12a and the FB 12c. I can't explain my like for it, and I know it wasn't a pivotal A/C but it has always interested me. The models will be in either 1/48th or 1/32nd scale. I'm more than willing to pay for the cost of reproduction of the materials. Any help you guys can send my way would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Paul Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 20:52:54 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Mr. Roll, got the Eduard Pfalz yet? Message-ID: <9702068577.AA857710580@mx.Ricochet.net> So, what about it John? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:03:13 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: <9703062346.aa19980@mail.iapc.net> >I, too, have been observing the dialogs circulating within this group >for some time, and have enjoyed some of the witty sayings >expressed. Pesonally, I build in all scales, the choice being >dictated by the aircraft type I want to build, and what is available. > >I am contemplating the Lone Star Felixstowe F2A kit. This is the >only kit that I know of for this type. Are there any other kits >available, and how would you guys who have built them rate their pros >and cons? Welcome! What a kit to tangle with! That Lone Star Felixstowe is a real challenge. I have one myself and have only begun removing the parts from the backing sheet. It's been put away and opened up again many times as I attempt to muster the courage to truly embark on building the beast. It can be done, as I have seen Mike West's model (he is the manufacturer), but I'll be one better modeller when I get mine done. >OBTW, going along with the surgeon-related scale definitions, I have >to tell you that I also build sports cars, because they are supposed >to represent an extension ..... (actually, WW1 modelers don't need >extensions!) Sports cars?! You mean those really shiny things? That brings to mind the terminology we use to rib each other with in my model club (all in good fun, of course). Seems like a good excuse to pass them along: Aircraft Models= Skeet, Gnats Armor Models= Ground Targets, Tin Cans Auto Models= Visually Enhanced Ground Targets Model Trains= Vertically Challenged Ground Targets Ship Models= Sub Bait, Flotsam Submarine Models= Ship Bait, Floating Logs, Power Turds Cheers! Scott H ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) | IPMS/USA #32841 | "Make it idiot proof - IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum | and someone will make a better idiot!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:04:27 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Rep : Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <199703070509.AAA01613@newman.concentric.net> M. Portier writes: > I've built a Polish Oeffag with the Pegasus kit and blue rider sworl sheet. > The decal adheres very well. Dr Glen Merrill of Americals tells me that the > sworls are inaccurate as there should be a fourth colour (unknown). That is > the reason why Americals have not produced this scheme: not enough precise > information availble. Some speculations on this subject will be the subject of a future Chandelle article by my collaborator, Charles Hart, and I. Happily, we know as much about that fourth color as anyone in the world! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:31:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: scratchbuilding subject Message-ID: Paul, You asked <<<<<<<<< >I'm trying to locate good drawings and photos of the Vickers FB 12. I >intend to scratchbuild at least one type. Eventually, I hope to build >both the FB 12a and the FB 12c. I can't explain my like for it, and I >know it wasn't a pivotal A/C but it has always interested me. The models >will be in either 1/48th or 1/32nd scale. I'm more than willing to pay for >the cost of reproduction of the materials. Any help you guys can send my >way would be greatly appreciated! >>>>>>>>>> Well plans for the FB.12C were published in the May 91 issue of Windsock. Copies of them can be sent to you by me for the grand sum of one snail mail address Regards >Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:15:52 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703070520.AAA07505@newman.concentric.net> To the Most Serene Mailing List: > >Matt suggested: > >How about a button (pretty cheap to produce) showing a WWI two-seater > >dropping leaflets (like our e-mail)? I have it! D'Annunzio and La Serenissima over Vienna! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:15:52 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <199703070520.AAA07531@newman.concentric.net> Todd writes > I'm thinking seriously about building the Pegasus AlbDIII (Oef) with the Blue > Rider 'sworl' camoflauge decal. Anyone out there seen this sheet ? I've got > some experience with Pegasus kits and was curious about the decal sheet. I have to second Charles on this one. I think the BR sheet looks dead wrong--way too much of one, overly light color. Four shades are definitely visible in the photos in the Flying Machines Press A-H books. They even show up in a couple of murky photocopies I have. I don't see how BR and the Flying Machine Press artist missed it. >From a functional viewpoint, it is hard to see how the BR sworl could have worked as camouflage in a temperate environment anyway--it looks way too deserty and the regular pattern of dark shapes on broad expanses of light just seems to emphasize the presence of the aircraft. I've prepared some drawings with various 4- color patterns that look alot harder to see, if I do say so myself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:15:51 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Tuesday, 6 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just Message-ID: <199703070520.AAA07544@newman.concentric.net> Is it just me? Or is friend Genet's combat flying alot less interesting than his love life? I kind of miss his whining about Gertie and his flirtations with these various expatriate females he seems to know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:18:35 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: <199703070523.AAA08667@newman.concentric.net> Paul Schwartzkopf: > OBTW, going along with the surgeon-related scale definitions, I have > to tell you that I also build sports cars, because they are supposed > to represent an extension ..... (actually, WW1 modelers don't need > extensions!) No, but there are times when we all feel the need of some struts and rigging. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:23:17 +0000 From: "Rob " To: wwi Subject: Re: Getting started/Airbrushes Message-ID: <199703070527.AAA10691@newman.concentric.net> Sandy writes > But, in Scotland, in winter, airbrushing means a cold utility room and > trying to avoid spraying the cats' food bowls PC10. I hadn't really thought about it before, but a nice coat of PC10 might improve the average cat. It would certainly seal the hair down nicely and keep it off of the models and out of the paint jars. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 05:53:05 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: scratchbuilding subject Message-ID: <19970307.045622.13462.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:41:53 -0500 phoward@abilene.com (Paul Howard) writes: > I'm trying to locate good drawings and photos of the Vickers FB > 12. I intend to scratchbuild at least one type. Eventually, I > hope to build both the FB 12a and the FB 12c. I can't explain > my like for it, and I know it wasn't a pivotal A/C but it has > always interested me. The models will be in either 1/48th or > 1/32nd scale. I'm more than willing to pay for the cost of > reproduction of the materials. Any help you guys can send my > way would be greatly appreciated! Windsock Vol 7 No 3 is the only item I show for the FB.12c. You could also probably find a little in Putnam's book _The Aeroplanes of the Royal Flying Corps Military Wing_. It's not much, but HTH. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:13:21 +0000 From: Pedro Soares To: wwi Subject: I'm back Message-ID: <33200661.6F6F@anaep.pt> Hi guys, I've been away from the list for a whole week because I was lucky and had to go to Paris to attend a meeting there. I managed to get a free day all by myself and went to Le Bourget to the Air museum. There among other treasures I could see an exceptional colection of early and WW1 aircraft. I took a lot of pictures hope they'll come out all right. I'll report more on this visit as soon as I find some spare time. Jim Lyzun I just saw you're message (I've got more than 300 mesages to read now) and I'll get back to you as soon as possible .. Cheers pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:46:39 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703071246.HAA29156@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:50 PM 3/6/97 -0500, DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: >The League of WWI Aviation Historians gave out medals to all participants at >the last seminar. These are to be worn at future seminars. Soon, we will >look like a bunch of British veterans. Nah, not everyone...just the ones who's model won awards.(Mostly everyone but ME) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:48:54 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703071248.HAA29202@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 12:24 AM 3/7/97 -0500, Rob wrote: >To the Most Serene Mailing List: > >> >Matt suggested: > >> >How about a button (pretty cheap to produce) showing a WWI two-seater >> >dropping leaflets (like our e-mail)? > >I have it! D'Annunzio and La Serenissima over Vienna! This gets my vote!!!!! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:55:05 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <199703071255.HAA29250@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:36 AM 3/6/97 -0500, THENRYS@aol.com wrote: >Just a question : > >I'm thinking seriously about building the Pegasus AlbDIII (Oef) with the Blue >Rider 'sworl' camoflauge decal. Anyone out there seen this sheet ? I've got >some experience with Pegasus kits and was curious about the decal sheet. Color accuracy aside, the decals go on nicely and don"t seem to chip off. I did the Polish version about a year ago taking great liberties with an Esci D-III. The decals are still on and look really nice. Interesting comment on the "dessert color" appearance. I agree that's sort of what it looks like. but voice no comment or concern over the "true" colors ;-}} Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:44:15 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <199703071344.IAA29427@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Hi guys, I've been away from the list for a whole week because I was > lucky and had to go to Paris to attend a meeting there. I managed to get > a free day all by myself and went to Le Bourget to the Air museum. There > among other treasures I could see an exceptional colection of early and > WW1 aircraft. I took a lot of pictures hope they'll come out all right. Get double prints - I'll scan them in for the WWW page. -Al > I'll report more on this visit as soon as I find some spare time. We'd love to hear more! -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 07:47:05 -0600 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Eduard Pfalz DIII -- in box impressions Message-ID: <33201C1A.21F3@ix.netcom.com> I picked up a Pfalz DIII at my local hobby shop yesterday evening. MSRP of $24.99. I think they have almost achieved what was long thought impossible -- the shake the box WWI model kit. Molding is crisp and the interior formers have a better depth look to them than in the Alb. DV and the Tripehound kits. Shape looks very good, though I'm a little concerned about the shape of the openings for the internally mounted guns. The interior includes the breeches of the twin Spandaus, with the other end represented by the web at the end of the cooling jacket and a stub muzzle piece. The seat is a little thick looking, but looks comfortable. The stick could use a couple of the flex leads for the triggers. There is one thing I am not sure of. That is the horizontal tailplane. It seems to be intermediate between the early small fixed area type and the later large type. It has the stiffeners at the leading edge that roughly parallel the root line, so I think it is supposed to be the large area tailplane. I need to look closer and check on references. Markings are for Lenz' and Berthold's aircraft. All of the references I have indicate that the latter was a DIIIa, though with no serial numbers showing, it is always possible that he flew identically marked DIII and DIIIa types. The decals are typical for Eduard -- Propargteam -- but they do look like they might have added a little thickness for durability to these. The engine is injected styrene plastic -- two pieces split vertically for the block, plus the valve cover, timing belt, intake and exhaust manifolds. The molding is very fine and the quality of that given in the DML Fokker D.VII kit. The photoetch is in keeping with the trend in recent Eduard kits -- I think this has the least photoetch of any of theirs. The usual instrument guage faces films are given. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 08:10:30 -0800 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <33203DF6.7958@interaccess.com> How about a pin with a little Blue Max on it? Kevin Wenker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:09:29 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Wednesday, 7 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just Message-ID: <332067E9.4B56@host.dmsc.net> Very windy, cloudy day. Stayed in bed until late this morning. Escadrille on duty for the morning but weather was too rotten to go out. Wrote to Uncle Lock and Ruth Tuttle in the afternoon. The heavy undershifts which Uncle Lock sent to me for Christmas as last came today. Have also received a notification from the Gard de Nord, Paris, bureau des colis postaux etrangeres, that the package of tobacco sent me by Ralph Cooper awhile ago from Canada is there in Consigne for me to claim and there is no duty to pay on it as far as I can tell from the notice. Mighty glad of that for I was sure I would have to pay a lot of duty on it if it ever came at all. from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:29:14 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: TV show Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970307103114.361fde1c@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Guys, Did anyone out there watch the three-part series on the Discovery Channel this past Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday at 10:00 eastern? I missed the first one one fighters but caught the other ones on bombers and attack aircrat, respectively. Each program attempted to come up with the best aircraft in each category as chosen by a "panel of experts," the planes being divided into six eras. The first era, 1910-1925, really covered only "our" war and included some nice film clips and intervews with two authorities: Peter Grosz and our own Peter Kilduff (of course, there were no pilots left to interview, unlike in the other eras). German a/c won the "best" award in this area in the two shows I caught; ay guesses as to which ones? the good news is that the programs are available for purchase; the even beter news is that they will be repeated back-to-back the 9th staring at one pm eastern. They're certainly worth watching, in spite of the slightly overwrought narration style. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:26:51 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <199703071626.MAA19873@fw.true.net> At 08:45 AM 07-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >> Hi guys, I've been away from the list for a whole week because I was >> lucky and had to go to Paris to attend a meeting there. I managed to get >> a free day all by myself and went to Le Bourget to the Air museum. There >> among other treasures I could see an exceptional colection of early and >> WW1 aircraft. I took a lot of pictures hope they'll come out all right. > >We'd love to hear more! > >-Al > We would also love to go to Paris ALBERTO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 17:02:20 GMT From: michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <332041c7.55752940@relay.ping.be> On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:47:02 -0500, you wrote: > How about a large, gaudy colored T-shirt that says "Balloon Scale", >or "Munchkin Scale"? >>=20 > [hee hee hee hee] ...Oh, sorry.... ;^) > And why not a small Belgian Hanriot HD-1 with a balloon being shot down in flames. This would be very satisfying: munchkin (HD-1) and balloon scale (guess why) and furthermore BELGIAN ;-). Regards. -- Michel Lefort - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium IPMS Belgium Foreign Liaison Officer (member F147) http://www.ping.be/IPMS Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 17:02:23 GMT From: michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) To: wwi Subject: Re: TV show Message-ID: <33214266.55911560@relay.ping.be> On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:35:05 -0500, you wrote: >Guys, > Did anyone out there watch the three-part series on the = Discovery >Channel this past Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday at 10:00 eastern? I = missed >the first one one fighters but caught the other ones on bombers and = attack >aircrat, respectively. Each program attempted to come up with the best >aircraft in each category as chosen by a "panel of experts," the planes >being divided into six eras.=20 > The first era, 1910-1925, really covered only "our" war and = included >some nice film clips and intervews with two authorities: Peter Grosz and= our >own Peter Kilduff (of course, there were no pilots left to interview, = unlike >in the other eras). German a/c won the "best" award in this area in the = two >shows I caught; ay guesses as to which ones? the good news is that the >programs are available for purchase; the even beter news is that they = will >be repeated back-to-back the 9th staring at one pm eastern. They're >certainly worth watching, in spite of the slightly overwrought narration= style. > Carlos Who could record that for me? I know that it would be NTSC standard, but I have a friend who can make occasional standard conversions. I've seen the Discovery Channel mentioned many times in the list, but we, poor Europeans, don't have any access to it. :-(((( Regards. -- Michel Lefort - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium IPMS Belgium Foreign Liaison Officer (member F147) http://www.ping.be/IPMS Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 458 *********************