WWI Digest 457 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Sorry folks, false alarm by lkearns@sfu.ca 2) Re: Albatros loz. by Sandy Adam 3) Re: Getting started/Airbrushes by Sandy Adam 4) Re: Albatros loz. by mbittner@juno.com 5) Re: Getting started/Airbrushes by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 6) Re: ESCI Decals by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 7) Butch O'Hare by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 8) Re: Getting started/Airbrushes by Tom Eisenhour 9) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by The Shannons 10) Observer Becomes Participant by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 11) Re: Nationals Idea by "Stuart L. Malone" 12) Re: Albatros loz. by THENRYS@aol.com 13) Blue Rider Decals by THENRYS@aol.com 14) Re: Welcome/Scale Wars by THENRYS@aol.com 15) Blue Rider Decals by Brian Nicklas 16) Tuesday, 6 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 17) Re: Blue Rider Decals by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 18) Re[2]: ESCI Decals by "Shelley Goodwin" 19) Re: Welcome by Kevin Wenker 20) Re: Nationals Idea by Erik Pilawskii 21) Re: Blue Rider Decals by Erik Pilawskii 22) Embarassing Question by Don Leonard 23) Re: Blue Rider Decals by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 24) Re: Nationals Idea by Carlos Valdes 25) Re: Embarassing Question by aew (Allan Wright) 26) Re: Nationals Idea by aew (Allan Wright) 27) Re: Re[2]: cottage industries by Bob Norgren 28) Re: Chandelle vol. 2 # 1 by Bob Norgren 29) Re: Nationals Idea by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 30) Re: Blue Rider Decals by Bob Norgren 31) Rep : Observer Becomes Participant by Fportier@aol.com 32) Rep : Blue Rider Decals by Fportier@aol.com 33) Re[4]: cottage industries by "Shelley Goodwin" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:30:28 -0800 From: lkearns@sfu.ca To: whowley@citicom.com, tkearns@autobahn.org, jdziak@postoffice.ptd.net, Subject: Sorry folks, false alarm Message-ID: As a number of you have just pointed out, I seemed to have been hoaxed. Here, for example, is what Tom Kearns says: Well I just found this Dept. of Energy site that deals with such things .... The URL (below) is the location and has some good info in it... http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html In part it says .... PENPAL GREETINGS! Warning Hoax The PENPAL GREETINGS! Hoax shown below appears to be an attempt to kill an e-mail chain letter by claiming that it is a self starting Trojan that destroys your hard drive and then sends copies of itself to everyone whose address in in your mailbox. Reading an e-mail message does not run it nor does it run any attachments, so this Trojan must be self starting. Aside from the fact that a program cannot start itself, the Trojan would also have to know about every different kind of e-mail program to be able to forward copies of itself to other people. This warning is totally a hoax. Maybe this would be a good site to let your mailing list know about as I think everybody everywhere is hearing of one virus or another almost any week of the month. Oh yes... I found this by doing an advanced search on ALT VISTA using "PENPAL GREETINGS" There are other sites that came up also.. I just haven't gotten into them yet... Talk to you later. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:14:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros loz. Message-ID: > > that lozenge rubbers are for sore throats :-0 > > ROTFLMAO!!! > Matt > mbittner@juno.com WTFDTM? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:26:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Getting started/Airbrushes Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, barrett wrote: > > Now, in regards to the masterpieces that I see illustrated on the WW I > >modelling web page, is it safe to assume that you all use airbrushes (I have > >never even seen one) to achieve such results? > > I imagine, if you live in California, the prospect of sitting out in the sunshine airbrushing to your hearts content, watching the girls go by (I am a 1/48 scale man as defined by Fernando) and letting the fumes and overspray blow away, is pretty good. But, in Scotland, in winter, airbrushing means a cold utility room and trying to avoid spraying the cats' food bowls PC10. Now I moved wholeheartedly to airbrushing years ago and this means that I built about a dozen models up to spraying stage over the last three months but have only finished two. The rest wait for Spring (4 days in August, every second leap year) and my fingers to unfreeze from the airbrush control. Seriously though, brushing is much quicker but cannot easily get the results of simple spray. The important thing is to experiment with the thinning of the paint. A good halfway house is to brush paint but spray the varnishes. My two groats' worth Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 06:18:13 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros loz. Message-ID: <19970306.052133.13478.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:18:22 -0500 Sandy Adam writes: >> ROTFLMAO!!! > > WTFDTM? Laughing My Tush Off...with a little more color. ;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:28:10 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Getting started/Airbrushes Message-ID: <199703061228.HAA24583@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 09:49 PM 3/5/97 -0500, Fernando E. Lamas, M.D. wrote: ...deletions... > Now, in regards to the masterpieces that I see illustrated on the WW I >modelling web page, is it safe to assume that you all use airbrushes (I have >never even seen one) to achieve such results? Nope. I mix things up a lot, but still mostly use brushes. I'll either spray or use an airbrush for white & yellow. In all honesty, I'm still a little afraid of the airbrush especially for camo. I'm just starting to THINK about using it withj some liquid mask. Happy money spending for awhile! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:35:17 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ESCI Decals Message-ID: <199703061235.HAA24635@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 03:15 AM 3/6/97 -0500, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: >-- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > >Is it just me, or are all the decals with the ESCI 1/72 WWI fighters >completely useless? I have never been able to get these to conform or >adhere to the surface of even the glossiest paint. At least there >aren't any schemes with the ESCI kits that aren't covered by the >aftermarket sources, but it would have been nice to be able to use the >national insignia. Nope. I always thought they were useless too. The Nungesser markings went on ok, however, although I ended up using a pre-WWII bright yellow for the wings! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:38:04 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Butch O'Hare Message-ID: <199703061238.HAA24684@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Dave & Greg Thanks for the info. I tried ordering the aeromaster decals but Squadron said they were out of stock. Anybody got a spare set hanging around????? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:17:50 -0800 From: Tom Eisenhour To: wwi Subject: Re: Getting started/Airbrushes Message-ID: <331EEE2E.5C88@swbell.net> Fernando E. Lamas, M.D. wrote: > So, since my modelling skills are frozen at the 12-year-old-boy-building-Auroras-30- years-ago level. Where to start? I have a copy of the Zenith Books catalog and will be ordering some modelling "how to" books. I figure that will give me an idea of the basics. OK, Fernando Lamas, M.D., here's my advice: since you say your skills are frozen in time at the Aurora level, that's where you should pick up again, with the Glencoe reissues of the Aurora kits: the Pfalz, Nie. 28, and the SPAD. (Caution: the Glencoe Albatros D.III is NOT the Aurora "Albatross D-3" that you may remember but a new mold - avoid it!) I've built the first two recently and they go together quite well. I haven't built the SPAD but the kit has a good reputation. Building these inexpensive kits will help you get your hand back in and will allow you to work on basic construction techniques (e.g. upper/lower wing alignment). The first one you build, I wouldn't even fill seams, paint, or decal - just assemble it. The next one, you can move on to finishing techniques. BTW, Glenco kits excellent decals for multiple subjects which will be useful to you in the future. After you've conquered the Glencoe range, try the slightly more complex Lindberg SE-5a and/or Jenny. There are three reasons why you should work in the "Breast Surgeon" scale: (1) the kits I mentioned are readily available, fit together well, and are cheap; (2) unless you built the Aurora kits at a very young age, you are over 40 which means your eyes are shot - give yourself a break!; and finally (3) the nearest 1/72 equivalent would be the Revell kits from the 60s which aren't currently available in hobby shops the last time I checked. However, if must build in 1/72, there are _some_ very good Airfix kits (Sopwith Pup, Roland C.II, Hannover Cl.III) which are still available but grab 'em fast because they're going out of production. The Kalmbach "how-to" books are quite good. Good luck, doc! Tom Eisenhour eisen@swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 07:38:53 -0600 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: <331EC8ED.59C0@ix.netcom.com> Alberto Rada wrote: > > At 10:28 PM 04-03-97 -0500, you wrote: > > > I come as a neutral observer to this Scale War but, from what I have > >observed for the past six weeks, it is similar to the wars in medicine: > > > > 1/72 (The Brain Surgeons) > . . . . . > > 1/48 (The Breast Surgeons) > . . . . . > > > After this we will start calling each other > The brainy pickers or the boson grabbers > > SALUDOS > > ALBERTO -- Bosom grabbers, Alberto, bosom. If you are into grabbing subatomic particles, you are able to work in a much smaller scale than 1/72 with no problems. And most males would have no problem with describing themselves as, at least attempted, bosom grabbers. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:02:03 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: <199703061407.IAA04363@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> I, too, have been observing the dialogs circulating within this group for some time, and have enjoyed some of the witty sayings expressed. Pesonally, I build in all scales, the choice being dictated by the aircraft type I want to build, and what is available. I am contemplating the Lone Star Felixstowe F2A kit. This is the only kit that I know of for this type. Are there any other kits available, and how would you guys who have built them rate their pros and cons? OBTW, going along with the surgeon-related scale definitions, I have to tell you that I also build sports cars, because they are supposed to represent an extension ..... (actually, WW1 modelers don't need extensions!) Paul Schwartzkopf Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 09:26:26 +0000 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970306092601.0068d904@sound.net> I thought I might chime in on this one..... I have a friend who found a supplier for such things. He has purchased single and double sided pour le merit's, along with victoria crosses and other trinkets. They were all repros, and not very expensive. I think the double sided medals were around $20. Single sided were on the order of $12 to $15. If any of these strikes your fancy, let me know, and I'll get the address of the distributor. I already have a 'merit', but will not be able to attend nationals. Stuart L. Malone At 10:19 PM 3/5/97 -0500, you wrote: >Matt suggested: >> >>Somehow, someway, we should come up with something >>to show everybody that we're members of this list. >> >How about a button (pretty cheap to produce) showing a WWI two-seater >dropping leaflets (like our e-mail)? > >Kevin. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros loz. Message-ID: <970306103217_-1238714085@emout04.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-03-06 07:35:30 EST, sandya@cbbs.demon.co.uk (Sandy Adam) wrote : << > > that lozenge rubbers are for sore throats :-0 > > ROTFLMAO!!! > Matt > mbittner@juno.com WTFDTM? Sandy >> Outstanding !!! Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:32:31 -0500 (EST) From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <970306103223_-870121829@emout08.mail.aol.com> Just a question : I'm thinking seriously about building the Pegasus AlbDIII (Oef) with the Blue Rider 'sworl' camoflauge decal. Anyone out there seen this sheet ? I've got some experience with Pegasus kits and was curious about the decal sheet. Thanks in advance , Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:32:15 -0500 (EST) From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome/Scale Wars Message-ID: <970306103212_-1640323365@emout18.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-03-04 22:26:35 EST, lamas@olympus.net (Fernando E. Lamas, M.D.) wrote : << Thanks to all for the warm welcome. As I recall, I paid little attention to scale back in my modelling days in the 60's. I think I had some little 1/72's and, of course, Aurora was 1/48 and I had a LARGE Spad and a Fokker Dr. I which must have been Revell 1/28's. I come as a neutral observer to this Scale War but, from what I have observed for the past six weeks, it is similar to the wars in medicine: << Excellent Humor Snipped >> Welcome to the group. I'm a bit of a newcomer to the list as well, and the conversation is entertaining and most helpful. I have a most mundane question to ask you, would you mind if I forwarded your thesis on scale choice and the human condition to the editor of our club's newsletter ? I think everyone would enjoy this excellent comment on "our times". Thanks Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 10:40:17 EST From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <199703061543.KAA25384@pease1.sr.unh.edu> The sworl sheet is very nice, great registration, wonderful color reproduction. Alas, my Albatros is not near enough to complete to evaluate how well it sits. It looks great though! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 11:54:39 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Tuesday, 6 March 1917, Raoenel near St Just Message-ID: <331F20FF.989@host.dmsc.net> Fair day. Out along our lines from eleven o'clock until one with Johnson and Bigelow. Johnson was forced to return on account of motor trouble and Bigelow went in at 12:30. Stayed out until the two hours were up so as to help along with my flying time to get 20 hours so I can be proposed for the grade of sous-officier by the tenth. Decorated a 75 shell for Bigelow during the afternoon. Have gotten my nose and part of one cheek frost bitten and now the skin is peeling off and making it quite raw. It feels mighty uncomfortable and my face is a sight. from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet **************************************** Tuesday, March 6, 1917 Made a flight with Johnson and Bigelow from 11 to 1 o'clock today along the French lines between Peronne and Tilloy. Saw no German machines but were shelled some north of Roye. Also saw an interesting sight north of Chaulnes--a German gas attack on the French trenches. The thick, greenish fumes were rolling out from the enemy's lines in great clouds and rolling across "No Man' Land" into French territory. Johnson had motor trouble about 11:30 and had to return to camp. Bigelow and I kept going together until he went in about 12:30. I stayed out to try my machine gun and I interestedly watched the German batteries shelling the French first line north and east of Tilloy. I'm using MacConnell's machine #2055 while he's in the hospital at Amiens and is running splendidly. I made a fine landing coming back at 1 o'clock. Time: 2 hr. Height 2500 meters from the Flight Log of E.C.C. Genet, N-124 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:24:53 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: Brian wrote: >The sworl sheet is very nice, great registration, wonderful >color reproduction. Alas, my Albatros is not near enough to >complete to evaluate how well it sits. It looks great though! With all dues respect, speak for yourself. My sheet of the BR Sworl sheet was notably out of register even if it was clearly printed. There is a serious flaw with both this decal and the color reproductions found in several publications, these reproductions only portray THREE colors in the sworl pattern. A careful look at the photo of unused Sworl fabric behind a D-III wing frame, found in Marty O'Connor's piece in Cross & Cockade International, clearly show that this pattern has FOUR shades of gray, meaning the pattern was produced with 4 colors. The C&C I piece used some smoke and mirrors to come up with Methuen values for three colors for this pattern, based upon analysis of this single black and white photo. These were dutifully used in the color plate found near the back of the Grosz et al tome on Austro-Hungarian Army a/c, which are now found on the Blue Rider decal. I think that this color reproduction misrepresents the appearance of the original fabric (what ever the colors may have been) with the dominant color as terra cotta. A careful look at the photo of the fabric shows that there was no singly dominant color, the aerial distibution of grays are pretty much equal across the patter. So what were the "real" colors ? I think that it is anyone's guess. A surviving shred of this fabric has yet to turn up, but then there probably wasn't that much of it to begin with. In looking around in various publications there appear to be less than a dozen photographs showing this material being used on an airframe, and several of those are post-war use in Poland. To say the least, this was an intriguing pattern and interesting camouflage, its just a pity that we don't know more about it. My $0.02 worth. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 08:48:14 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: ESCI Decals Message-ID: <9702068576.AA857667010@mx.Ricochet.net> If anyone wants my ESCI Nie.17 sheet, it's up for grabs. Also, if anyone wants to trade for any/all of the other ESCI decals, let me know. (This is not due to the present poor review of ESCI decals, but because I build predominantly Blue Rider "off-topic" subjects.) Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ESCI Decals Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 3/6/97 4:32 AM At 03:15 AM 3/6/97 -0500, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: >-- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > >Is it just me, or are all the decals with the ESCI 1/72 WWI fighters >completely useless? I have never been able to get these to conform or >adhere to the surface of even the glossiest paint. At least there >aren't any schemes with the ESCI kits that aren't covered by the >aftermarket sources, but it would have been nice to be able to use the >national insignia. Nope. I always thought they were useless too. The Nungesser markings went on ok, however, although I ended up using a pre-WWII bright yellow for the wings! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 11:07:31 -0800 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Welcome Message-ID: <331F15F3.3B7A@interaccess.com> KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > > -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > > Please allow me to add my welcome to Fernando. Another fellow ex-Navy > person on the list can only improve the quality of this already august > group..... Ken, Does it count for me that my son is at Annapolis? Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:43:28 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Mar 1997 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Somehow, someway, we should come up with something > to show everybody that we're members of this list. > Everyone would get one, and then we would wear it > whever we attend *any* modeling or WW1 related activity. > How about a large, gaudy colored T-shirt that says "Balloon Scale", or "Munchkin Scale"? > [hee hee hee hee] ...Oh, sorry.... ;^) Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Mr.Anchovy, perhaps you could move *towards* 'Lion Taming' via Banking, or even Insurance?..." .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 THENRYS@aol.com wrote: > Brian and Todd, > I'm thinking seriously about building the Pegasus AlbDIII (Oef) with the Blue > Rider 'sworl' camoflauge decal. Anyone out there seen this sheet ? I've got > some experience with Pegasus kits and was curious about the decal sheet. > There was a rather lengthy discussion a while back on the actual color od these swirl patterns. I believe (I'm looking through my saved mails to see if I still have the thing) it was an Austro-H machine in restoration on which some type of chemical paint analysis was performed, whereupon the testing party felt that the original colors were in fact two greys! Naturally, a lot of comment passed on that matter here on the list, and as I recall no consensus was reached. Just food for thought if these things keep you up at night.... {..perhaps it will now... <:^o } Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Mr.Anchovy, perhaps you could move *towards* 'Lion Taming' via Banking, or even Insurance?..." .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 13:14:56 -0500 From: Don Leonard To: wwi Subject: Embarassing Question Message-ID: <331F09A0.3DD1@gwi.net> Hello Folks, I got on this mailing list out of curiosity, as I occasionally build a WWI fighter (my main focus is WWII Pacific Theatre). Anyway, it seems like a great resource, but since it's not my primary area of interest, I'd like to unsubscribe...I just can't figure out how to do this. Can someone help me out? Thanks, Don Leonard dleonard@gwi.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:22:30 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: Erik writes: > There was a rather lengthy discussion a while back on the actual color >od these swirl patterns. I believe (I'm looking through my saved mails to >see if I still have the thing) it was an Austro-H machine in restoration >on which some type of chemical paint analysis was performed, whereupon the >testing party felt that the original colors were in fact two greys! > Naturally, a lot of comment passed on that matter here on the list, and >as I recall no consensus was reached. Just food for thought if these >things keep you up at night.... >{..perhaps it will now... <:^o } Actually, I sleep pretty soundly. Erik, I think you are mixing metaphors here. The gray discussion had to do with the "stepped" two-tone camouflage found on late-war Berg D-Is among other a/c following a "cover story" on an issue of Windsock. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:14:55 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970306131656.0917c2be@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Stuart, What's the quality like on your double-sided Blue Max? Der Diest offers a good one but at a higher price. What's the name of the distributor of your copy? TIA. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:09:20 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Embarassing Question Message-ID: <199703061909.OAA26269@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > I got on this mailing list out of curiosity, as I occasionally build a > WWI fighter (my main focus is WWII Pacific Theatre). Anyway, it seems > like a great resource, but since it's not my primary area of interest, > I'd like to unsubscribe...I just can't figure out how to do this. Can > someone help me out? Don, Simply send a message to wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu with the following in the BODY of the message: unsubscribe wwi -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:11:42 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703061911.OAA26297@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > On Wed, 5 Mar 1997 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Somehow, someway, we should come up with something > > to show everybody that we're members of this list. > > Everyone would get one, and then we would wear it > > whever we attend *any* modeling or WW1 related activity. How about a button with the Camel Picture from the WWW page with the URL under it? I'm not going to the Nationals but I'd like one for when I go to wargaming conventions and local modeling schtuff. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:27:49 +0000 From: Bob Norgren To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: cottage industries Message-ID: <331D82E5.1ED8@ne.infi.net> Shelley Goodwin wrote: > > > Bob, > > At the risk of being obtuse, aren't there enough WWII aftermarket choices for > decals that you could get Superscale or Areomaster sheets to offer with your > kits get them at a bulk rate? Would this be more expensive than having them > made, or are your subjects obscure enough that existing stuff won't 'fit' them? > > Riordan Unfortunately, there are no ready made sheets for the Beech Mentors, Vultee BT-13 and Vengeance, Fairey Barracuda, Blackburn Skua and Curtiss Seamew and SC-1 in 1/48. I'm teaching myself the process of generating the artwork in Adobe Illustrator to save money and, perhaps, continue on a different modelling career. Bob Sierra ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:30:04 +0000 From: Bob Norgren To: wwi Subject: Re: Chandelle vol. 2 # 1 Message-ID: <331D836C.38F8@ne.infi.net> Rob wrote: > > The long-promised all-WW1 issue of Chandelle is now on-line at > . It features the list's own Riordan > on the Rumpler G Types, Sounds great! Beautiful work. BTW, are there any scale plans available for the Rumpler Bombers? Would make a good complement for our AEG and Friedrichshafen in 1/72. Bob Sierra ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:37:42 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Nationals Idea Message-ID: <199703061943.NAA06321@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:15:20 -0500 Reply-to: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu From: aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu (Allan Wright) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nationals Idea > On Wed, 5 Mar 1997 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Somehow, someway, we should come up with something > > to show everybody that we're members of this list. > > Everyone would get one, and then we would wear it > > whever we attend *any* modeling or WW1 related activity. How about a small dogfight scene? Camel vs DVII? Paul Schwartzkopf Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:45:17 +0000 From: Bob Norgren To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <331D86FD.6AEE@ne.infi.net> THENRYS@aol.com wrote: > > Just a question : > > I'm thinking seriously about building the Pegasus AlbDIII (Oef) with the Blue > Rider 'sworl' camoflauge decal. Anyone out there seen this sheet ? I've got > some experience with Pegasus kits and was curious about the decal sheet. > > Thanks in advance , > > Todd Henry Beautiful sheet, I have them in stock, as well as almost all of the Blue Rider sheets, at $10.95 plus $2 first class postage. The sheet consists of a full sheet of sworl plus markings for two Austro-Hungarian and two Polish Albatri. If anyone wants a price list of Blue Rider Decals, just email. Also we are gearing up on a Spring sale of all Sierra kits so email for a listing. Bob Sierra Scale Models ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:07:30 -0500 (EST) From: Fportier@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Rep : Observer Becomes Participant Message-ID: <970306150715_-1171583736@emout10.mail.aol.com> There is an excellent vacform of the Felixtowe: the 1/72 Aeroclub kit (includes metal parts and decals). Special feature is the way the wings are moulded, which saves time by reducing the amount of sanding down necessary with vac-form kits. Excellent instructions booklet. Recommended. Best wishes, Francois. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:07:21 -0500 (EST) From: Fportier@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Rep : Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <970306150719_-937105912@emout13.mail.aol.com> I've built a Polish Oeffag with the Pegasus kit and blue rider sworl sheet. The decal adheres very well. Dr Glen Merrill of Americals tells me that the sworls are inaccurate as there should be a fourth colour (unknown). That is the reason why Americals have not produced this scheme: not enough precise information availble. So a nice, attractive decal sheet but questionable accuracy. A personal choice, once again. Best regards, Francois. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 12:24:49 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: cottage industries Message-ID: <9702068576.AA857680100@mx.Ricochet.net> Ya don't say! While I enjoyed a dream job as archaeologist/historical researcher at Edwards for a couple years, we rooted around the site of Muroc Army Air Corps Bombing and Gunnery Range and found the canopy frame of a BT-13, as well as zillions of bomb fragments (and a couple whole ones), Keystone bomber airframe and artillery caisson parts which had been expended as targets. All kinds of fascinating junk out there... Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: cottage industries Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 3/6/97 11:33 AM Shelley Goodwin wrote: > > > Bob, > > At the risk of being obtuse, aren't there enough WWII aftermarket choices for > decals that you could get Superscale or Areomaster sheets to offer with your > kits get them at a bulk rate? Would this be more expensive than having them > made, or are your subjects obscure enough that existing stuff won't 'fit' them? > > Riordan Unfortunately, there are no ready made sheets for the Beech Mentors, Vultee BT-13 and Vengeance, Fairey Barracuda, Blackburn Skua and Curtiss Seamew and SC-1 in 1/48. I'm teaching myself the process of generating the artwork in Adobe Illustrator to save money and, perhaps, continue on a different modelling career. Bob Sierra ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 457 *********************