WWI Digest 424 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Eduard News/Propaganda by Joseph Gentile 2) Monday, 5 February 1917, Raonel near St Just by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 3) Re[2]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D.III by "Shelley Goodwin" 4) ajp by Franco Poloni 5) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda by "Valenciano . Jose" 6) Re: Morane Saulnier badge by mbittner@juno.com 7) Re: ajp by Hirohisa Ozaki 8) Re. Future/Windshield Washer Fluid by "Leonard Endy" 9) Re[2]: Chronicle Of The First World War, Volume II: 1917-192 by "Shelley Goodwin" 10) Books by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 11) Re: Morane Saulnier badge by "Valenciano . Jose" 12) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 13) Re: Re[2]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D.III by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 14) Re: Subscription Check by DavidL1217@aol.com 15) Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. by "Shelley Goodwin" 16) Re[2]: Rigging diagram for Airco DH4 and RAF RE8 by "Shelley Goodwin" 17) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda In Stock? by DavidL1217@aol.com 18) Re: Kit Review: Sky Birds 86-Halberstadt DII by DavidL1217@aol.com 19) Re: Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 20) Re: Subscription Check by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 21) Re: Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 22) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda by Sandy Adam 23) RE: Re[2]: Chronicle Of The First World War, Volume II: 1917-192 by Peter Kilduff 24) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda by Bob Norgren 25) Re: Eduard News/Propaganda by Joseph Gentile 26) Re: Subscription Check by Peter Kilduff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:22:18 -0600 (CST) From: Joseph Gentile To: wwi Subject: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: <199702051522.JAA10965@Walden.MO.NET> In the latest VLS flyer they list the following: 1/72 EU 7005 Fokker E.V/Navy Aces available FEB $16.99 EU 7006 Sopwith Camel strip down available FEB $24.99 EU 7007 Fokker D.VII strip down available MAY $24.99 1/48 EU 8005 Pfalz D.III in stock? $24.99 EU 8019 Albatros D.V Mvr in stock? $24.99 EU 8020 Sopwith Tripe/Black flight available JAN $24.99 EU 8023 Nieuport 17 Late available APR $24.99 EU 8024 Nieuport 17 Early available JUN $24.99 EU 8030 Albatros D.Va available MAR $24.99...*** EU 8031 Pfalz D.III/Voss available MAY $24.99 ***The "current" Albatros D.Va is EU 8013 so this may be a typo and actually the Albatros D.III I know VLS listed the Sopwith Tripe as available 2-3 months before they actually had it so this may be pure speculation on their part. It is however, nice to see actual that the kits have had serial numbers assigned to them. Maybe the test shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 and the Voison seems to be a very dead thought. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 12:41:37 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Monday, 5 February 1917, Raonel near St Just Message-ID: <32F8F081.138F@host.dmsc.net> 917. Snowy day so consequently there was no flying. Volunteered to do photographic work over the enemy lines with a Nieuport specially fixed for that. Went down this afternoon in the escadrille car with Lieut. de Laage and two other officers to an aviation camp east of Clermont where Bigelow is stationed in the Escadrille N-102. Bigelow was sent there from the G.D.E. and is to come to us to morrow. No new startling developments in regard to the rupture between the U.S. and Germany and Austria. Letter from Norman Howell about his coming over here next summer to join the American Ambulance Corps but he failed to show any appreciation for the trouble I took to offer to him etc. from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 12:22:11 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D.III Message-ID: <9701058551.AA855175090@mx.Ricochet.net> Thanks Bill. At the risk of being obtuse, was this D.III finished in the early brown/green scheme w/ nat wood fuselage & fieldgrau metal bits? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D.III Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 2/4/97 10:33 PM When we last left our intrepid adventurers, Riordan was saying: > > Anyone have info on scheme and markings or perhaps a synopsis of the > Jasta's Macedonian service? > > Riordan >From "The Jasta Pilots": "Had personal initials in black or white on Roland DIIa and Albatros DIIIs in Macedonia, also on Halberstadt DIIs." "Created 28 November, 1916, through KdF, 11 Armee, at Prilip on the Macedonian front pursuant to Kreigs Ministerium von Nr.1425.16g.A.7.L and was mobilized on 1 December under the command of Oberleutnant Fredrick-Karl Burckhardt of Feld Flieger Abteilung 30, and equipped with the Halberstadt DII. The Jasta's first victory came on 10 December, Ltn Bodo von Lyncker scoring his first victory. Von Lyncker was also the first combat casualty, colliding with an enemy Nieuport south of Gevgjeli on 18 February. On 13 march, the Jasta moved to Kanatlarci, where Ltn Otto Brauneck, who came to the Jasta with one claim, became the first ace by downing his 6th victory on 31 March. Oberleutnant Burckhardt was promoted to Hauptmann on 1 December, 1917 and on 1 February, 1918 was transferred to the Western Front to command Kest 2, at Saarbrucken. Command of Jasta 25 was assumed by Ltn Renatus Heydacker (2 victories) from Jasta 38 until the end of the war. Jasta 25 was credited with the destruction of at least 54 enemy aircraft including 8 balloons, while losing only two pilots killed in combat, one killed and two injured in flying accidents." (umlauts omitted!) Of course, the most famous Jasta 25 pilot was Gerhard Fiesler, with 19 victories and who gained a measure of fame in a later conflict as a designer/manufacturer of STOL aircraft and early cruise missiles. All quotes copyright 1996 by Norman Franks, Frank Bailey, and Richard Duiven. Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:13:16 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: ajp Message-ID: <199702030913.JAA17388@lo.itline.it> Hi all AJP: what do you think about the kits made from this company?? do you think that for WWI subject a wide use of photoetched is preferreble? I saw the model of the Taube, and I think it really looks like the actual aircraft, it give me the same sense of weakness and lightness. cheers Franco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:46:35 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Joseph Gentile wrote: > In the latest VLS flyer they list the following: > > 1/72 > > EU 7005 Fokker E.V/Navy Aces available FEB $16.99 I'm curious to find out their interpretation of Osterkamp's machine. > 1/48 > > EU 8005 Pfalz D.III in stock? $24.99 > EU 8019 Albatros D.V Mvr in stock? $24.99 > EU 8020 Sopwith Tripe/Black flight available JAN $24.99 > EU 8023 Nieuport 17 Late available APR $24.99 > EU 8024 Nieuport 17 Early available JUN $24.99 > EU 8030 Albatros D.Va available MAR $24.99...*** > EU 8031 Pfalz D.III/Voss available MAY $24.99 > > shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 I don't see the Roland C.II either. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 18:15:50 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier badge Message-ID: <19970205.171824.14078.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:04:46 -0500 Shane Weier writes: > I *am* pretty sure the badge is brass, having read that > elsewhere, and the photos look like the background, if painted, > is usually cowl colour, so mine has got a black background. > > That is, fix badge to cowl, paint black overall, buff over the > badge with 1200 grit. Clean, neat, a perfect application for > brass etching. This brings up another point I've been wanting to bring up. Here's another idea for decals (Blue Rider - you can do these *after* you finish the French Escadrille "badges" ;-)): All manufacturers logos, in all scales. Like the 'M-L' for MoS; the Albatros winged whatever; the Roland symbol; etc. Sure, some of them would be hard to make out in 1/72nd, but the *shape* would be there. Just an idea that's been floating around my brain. ;-) > My MS-L is getting close to completed. A kit builders report > will follow, inspired by Joeys SSW D.III review. I think we all should do this, regardless of kit, and regardless of scale. I know when I finish with my Revell Nie.28, I will post exactly what I did to "correct" and build the model. Others? Let's hear your experience with whatever kit you're working on. That way Al can start a new builder's page - or add to the one he already has. And if you can, take pictures, either in progress, or at the least, completed. Thoughts? Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 09:13:44 JST From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: ajp Message-ID: <9702060013.AA00256@wight.miln.mei.co.jp> Franco Poloni wrote: >Hi all > >AJP: >what do you think about the kits made from this company?? >do you think that for WWI subject a wide use of photoetched is preferreble? >I saw the model of the Taube, and I think it really looks like the actual >aircraft, it give me the same sense of weakness and lightness. >cheers >Franco > me, too. Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 19:43:59 Eastern Standard Time From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Re. Future/Windshield Washer Fluid Message-ID: <19970205194359.00823ee7.in@legend.firstsaga.com> Subject: Re. Future/Windshield Washer Fluid >Nope, I use the blue. I have never had a color "discoloration" >from it, and that includes spraying an all-white aircraft using >"blue" windshield washer fluid. Go for it. ;-) > I read about this some years back and the article alluded to the fact that the blue may actually help with slowing down/preventing the yellowing of the white paint. As far as removing dried Future I think some ammonia will do it. Len _ 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 17:40:10 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Chronicle Of The First World War, Volume II: 1917-192 Message-ID: <9701058551.AA855192970@mx.Ricochet.net> How about Morrow Jr.'s "The Great War In The Air: Military Aviation from 1909 To 1921"? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Chronicle Of The First World War, Volume II: 1917-1921 Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 2/5/97 5:03 AM Never heard of it. PK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:09:21 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Books Message-ID: Hello List Members: I'm just starting to poke around book stores looking to stock-up on some of the titles I've read about on the list over the past several weeks. One caught my eye today, "Bloody April...Black September." I think it's by the same group of fellows who wrote another book I saw last week, "Under the Guns of the Red Baron." The Red Baron book had a number of color plates, which made me think that this would be a useful title for a (re)budding modeler like myself. The Bloody April book, published in '95, looked to have more than its fair share of statistics, but did boast a number of B/W photographs. I'm curious, which titles available these days are of most benefit to the modeler, while, on the other hand, which are of more interest to the WWI air war enthusiast. I think myself both, but to hear your opinions would be enlightening, and interesting. Kevin. nb. Pegasus Pfalz DIIIa, Airfix Sopwith Pup (2nd), DH4, ESCI Albatros DIII (yes, I build in batches) nu. ESCI Fokker DVII, ESCI Albatros DIII (2nd) nl. Kula Shaker "K" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:28:50 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier badge Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:04:46 -0500 Shane Weier > writes: > > > My MS-L is getting close to completed. A kit builders report > > will follow, inspired by Joeys SSW D.III review. > > I think we all should do this, regardless of kit, and regardless > of scale. I know when I finish with my Revell Nie.28, I will > post exactly what I did to "correct" and build the model. > > Others? Let's hear your experience with whatever kit you're > working on. That way Al can start a new builder's page - or add > to the one he already has. And if you can, take pictures, either > in progress, or at the least, completed. Thoughts? Yeah, c'mon everyall, get with it! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:12:06 -0500 From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: Hello all! (NO, I haven't fallen off the edge of the earth, but it seems like it when I go outside!) >I know VLS listed the Sopwith Tripe as available 2-3 months before they >actually had it so this may be pure speculation on their part. It is >however, nice to see actual >that the kits have had serial numbers assigned to them. Maybe the test >shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 >and the Voison seems to be a very dead thought. This works to VLS's benefit -- occasionally. More often, it backfires on them. A certain to go unnamed 1/72 kit of that German Me-Thingy by Hobbycraft was listed as available by VLS early last year. After a short while that way, they changed it so that it was listed as coming in JUN ('96, mind you). Now, there is a lot of speculation that it will NEVER appear. I wonder how many people ordered and were disappointed -- or still have it backordered? This just doesn't seem like a very nice way to treat people, IMHO... A dangerous practice when many companies can't meet with their own schedules... Soapbox off. John Roll john@rollmodels.com http://www.rollmodels.com The Internet Model Shop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:31:06 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D.III Message-ID: <199702060431.AA27476@ednet1.orednet.org> In our last episode, Riordan was asking: >Thanks Bill. At the risk of being obtuse, was this D.III finished in the early >brown/green scheme w/ nat wood fuselage & fieldgrau metal bits? > >Riordan Sorry, a quick check doesn't reveal any photos in my library of this aircraft (or any Jasta 25 aircraft, fer that matter) - all I've got is the text reference I previously posted. However, I'd suspect the green/mauve scheme would be more likely for Albatros DIIIs than the green/brown one - the green/mauve seems to be more or less de rigueur for DIIIs. Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:51:43 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Subscription Check Message-ID: <970205233636_1660624986@emout30.mail.aol.com> A few of my subscriptions may be running a bit late. Has anyone yet received any of the following: Windsock - Jan/Feb 1997 Datafile - HB W12 Over the Front - Winter 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 22:30:42 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. Message-ID: <9701058552.AA855210500@mx.Ricochet.net> How about the Pascha(?) Albatrii in Palestine? Wasn't there an red-brown or fieldgrau over the flying surfaces or some such?. So when did the D.V go from green/mauve to lozenge? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 2/5/97 8:32 PM In our last episode, Riordan was asking: >Thanks Bill. At the risk of being obtuse, was this D.III finished in the early >brown/green scheme w/ nat wood fuselage & fieldgrau metal bits? > >Riordan Sorry, a quick check doesn't reveal any photos in my library of this aircraft (or any Jasta 25 aircraft, fer that matter) - all I've got is the text reference I previously posted. However, I'd suspect the green/mauve scheme would be more likely for Albatros DIIIs than the green/brown one - the green/mauve seems to be more or less de rigueur for DIIIs. Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 22:37:01 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Rigging diagram for Airco DH4 and RAF RE8 Message-ID: <9701058552.AA855210850@mx.Ricochet.net> Bob G., Are you out there? If you still require this info, please respond and post your address... Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Rigging diagram for Airco DH4 and RAF RE8 Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 2/2/97 10:13 PM Bob, Glad to have you with us. It's a great group that will share all they know (and sometimes more) with you. The banter is great and we have members from all over the world. Our interests are the same. Cheers, Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ---------- > From: Robert Godfrey > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Rigging diagram for Airco DH4 and RAF RE8 > Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 9:19 PM > > Greetings Group > > I'm starting on a 1/72 British RE8 with the DH4 to follow from Airfix kits > (yes, I know, but they were a bargain). Among other things, they do not > have a rigging diagram except for the cover/box picture and, for me, the > rigging is a bit complicated. Does anyone have (or know where I could find) > a simple rigging diagram for either or both. I'd really hate to spend $20 > on a datafile for each when the kits cost only $6 apiece. Still, I'd like > to be reasonably accurate if possible. > > I'd really appreciate any help anyone could give me and thanks (I believe > the correct e-mail contraction is TIA . . . by the way, does anyone have a > list of these contractions, some I've seen are beyond me.) > > Bob G. > RG-KC-US ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda In Stock? Message-ID: <970205232816_-1543177907@emout17.mail.aol.com> Albatros DV MvR - Ja! Pfalz DIII - Nein! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:25:15 -0500 (EST) From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Review: Sky Birds 86-Halberstadt DII Message-ID: <970205232619_276037834@emout04.mail.aol.com> Sky Birds sells only by direct sales. Address: Skybirds '86 Orchard House Chetnole Sherborne, Dorset DT9 6PE Great Britain Proprietor: Mike Eacock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:55:19 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. Message-ID: <199702060755.AA23460@ednet1.orednet.org> In our last episode, Riordan inquired: > >How about the Pascha(?) Albatrii in Palestine? Wasn't there an red-brown or >fieldgrau over the flying surfaces or some such?. >So when did the D.V go from green/mauve to lozenge? I _think_ most of the D.Vs after 1199/17 should be lozenge. Certainly by 4403/17, they should be lozenge exclusively. I've not seen any information as to exactly where the "break point" was, if, indeed, there was in fact a break point. Greg Van W. posits a color of "Pale Brunswick green and white" for one of the upper surface colors for some DIIIs - which wouldn't be far off from feldgrau. Certainly the photographs seem to support his conclusion that there is a third upper surface color there on some Albatri DIIs. The actual color is probably anybody's best guess, but feldgrau is probably in the general ballpark. But, I'm guessing on this 'un and even Greg van W. admits he is only working from British "downed aircraft" reports. "The nice thing about doing WW1 aircraft is that the color police can only give ya' a warning!" Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Subscription Check Message-ID: <199702060828.AAA18605@concord.televar.com> >A few of my subscriptions may be running a bit late. Has anyone yet >received any of the following: > >Windsock - Jan/Feb 1997 > >Datafile - HB W12 > >Over the Front - Winter 1996 Funny you should ask, I was just pondering the fate of my long awaited Winter 96 OTF today. They sent me a note to re-up for '97 a couple weeks ago, so now I'm wondering what's happened to the last one for '96? Maybe Peter can shed some light on this... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:06:39 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[4]: Vzfw Anton Banhofer's Jasta 25 Macedonian Alb. D. Message-ID: <199702060906.BAA21813@concord.televar.com> Riordan inquires - > >How about the Pascha(?) Albatrii in Palestine? Wasn't there an red-brown or >fieldgrau over the flying surfaces or some such?. All the photos I've ever seen of the Pascha units (<> that there's a whole lot of them around!) indicate that they looked like straight-from-the-factory German Albatrii, i.e. natural wood fuselage, green and brown camo flying surfaces, blue undersides, eiserne kreuze, etc. I would guess this was because the Pascha units were regular German Jastas (301, 302, 303, 304, & 305) with all German pilots serving under German command, that were detailed to Palestine. The red- brown and/or feldgrau color you mention (Rimmel says probably red-brown, others say a greenish gray. I tend to agree with Rimmel) I've only seen on photos of Albatrii and other aircraft that were actually sold to the Turks and saw service in the Ottoman flying squadrons (referred to as Fliegerabteilung or Tayyare Boluk, as opposed to Jastas) under Turkish command, albeit staffed mostly with German volunteer pilots, at least in the fighter squadrons. Geographically, the Pascha units pretty much handled Palestine, while the Turks sent their own aircraft off to Mesopotamia, the Caucasus, and the Dardanelles. >So when did the D.V go from green/mauve to lozenge? Sorry, that sounds like more of a Western front question. I'll have to transfer you to another department.... HTH, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:53:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Joseph Gentile wrote: > shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 > and the Voison seems to be a very dead thought. These prices are steep - I just got the MvR DV in the Uk at 10.75GBP, ie about 17.50USD. Is 25USD the going rate? Also, before Christmas Eduard held a sale with 20% off the scouts and 40% off the two-seaters. Some UK stockists still have these prices. I was shown a colour press release from Eduard by Ian J in Jamieson Models in Glasgow back in November which showed the artwork for the Albatros DIII, Pfalz and Hanriot boxes and I am sure, since they have commissioned pics, they will produce the Hanriot. (Certainly hope so!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 8:13:00 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Kilduff To: wwi Subject: RE: Re[2]: Chronicle Of The First World War, Volume II: 1917-192 Message-ID: <970206081300.2031552f@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> Very fine. I recommend it. PK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 08:45:12 +0000 From: Bob Norgren To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: <32F99A18.C04@ne.infi.net> Valenciano . Jose wrote: > > 1/48 > > > > EU 8005 Pfalz D.III in stock? $24.99 > > EU 8019 Albatros D.V Mvr in stock? $24.99 > > EU 8020 Sopwith Tripe/Black flight available JAN $24.99 > > EU 8023 Nieuport 17 Late available APR $24.99 > > EU 8024 Nieuport 17 Early available JUN $24.99 > > EU 8030 Albatros D.Va available MAR $24.99...*** > > EU 8031 Pfalz D.III/Voss available MAY $24.99 > > > > shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 > > I don't see the Roland C.II either. The list comprises the releasese for the first half of the year. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:49:52 -0600 (CST) From: Joseph Gentile To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News/Propaganda Message-ID: <199602061349.HAA11860@Walden.MO.NET> At 07:58 AM 2/6/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Joseph Gentile wrote: > >> shots are back. Interestingly enough, there is no Hanriot listed in 1/48 >> and the Voison seems to be a very dead thought. > >These prices are steep - I just got the MvR DV in the Uk at 10.75GBP, ie >about 17.50USD. Is 25USD the going rate? Also, before Christmas Eduard >held a sale with 20% off the scouts and 40% off the two-seaters. Some UK >stockists still have these prices. > $25.00 USD is actually a little bit low for most "Hobby shops". The best alternative is to buy these kits via email from John Roll. I "think" the Sopwith Tripe went for about $18.00 USD. JG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 8:29:35 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Kilduff To: wwi Subject: Re: Subscription Check Message-ID: <970206082935.2031552f@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> FYI, a snag at the printer has put the Winter OTF off schedule. Situation has been resolved (technical problem for them, not us) and production has resumed. We send very finite instructions to the printer, as high-quality is a MUST for OTF -- and sometimes our picky-picky specs slow down the process. I know that's a pain -- but much less of one than the situation we had a few years ago when another printer goofed omn the FRONT cover and had to do the job all over again (after letters from early recipients, who wondered whether we had lost our collective minds). PK ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 424 *********************