WWI Digest 419 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New WWI Aircraft Kits (fwd) by aew (Allan Wright) 2) Copper State Models by wcreedon@tiac.net (Walter G. Creedon) 3) Re: Flying Corps by Erik Pilawskii 4) D-VIII Eduard or Sign? by aew (Allan Wright) 5) Test of new mailer by aew (Allan Wright) 6) Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? by "Randy J. Ray" 7) Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 8) Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 9) Spad color study by "Shelley Goodwin" 10) Re[4]: Lone Star M.1C/ LSM new website by "Shelley Goodwin" 11) Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: New WWI Aircraft Kits (fwd) Message-ID: <199701311544.KAA02668@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Here's an interesting E-mail I just received: -Al Forwarded message: > From mryan6@ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 31 00:45:14 1997 > Message-Id: <32F1930B.511D@ix.netcom.com> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:36:59 -0800 > From: Martin Ryan > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; U) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: aew@unh.edu > Subject: New WWI Aircraft Kits > X-Url: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/aew/ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Allan, > Don't know if you know, but there is a new line of kits coming out from > Copper State Models. The first kit due out is a Dornier D.I. Company > also produces some etched parts in 1/28th, 1/32d, 1/48th and 1/72d. > Currently they have nuts/bots and prop bosses. Will soon have out > machine gun kits. I also understand that CSM bought out the WWI aircraft > that were made by Toms Modelworks. Talked to Eric Hight the owner of > CSM. He said that he wants to produce at least 4 kits a year, more if > there is support for the products. > Thanks for the WWI page. > Happy modelling, > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:34:52 -0500 From: wcreedon@tiac.net (Walter G. Creedon) To: wwi Subject: Copper State Models Message-ID: Does anyone have an email/snailmail address? TIA Walter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:56:36 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Flying Corps Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Alberto Rada wrote: > >I also just got F C and I agree completely with your comments, > on the other hand, as you say, it will help to keep the vigil till > RB II arrives, and I certainly hope it's up to our expectations > Guys, thanks for your review. I had suspected as much, but it's nice to get a confirmation before I break down and waste money on the thing, having lost my nerve waiting for RBII!!.... Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "If you're not living Life on the edge, you're taking up too much room!" .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:10:37 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? Message-ID: <199701312010.PAA03688@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I guess I should have paid atention last time this thread went around! Which is bertter, the Eduard or the Sign D-VIII? (Including assesment of the included bits & decals) -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:21:45 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Test of new mailer Message-ID: <199701312021.PAA03772@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi list - Please ignore this message. I just changed my system's mail configuration and wanted to make sure it was working. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:19:50 -0700 From: "Randy J. Ray" To: wwi Subject: Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? Message-ID: > I guess I should have paid atention last time this thread went around! > > Which is bertter, the Eduard or the Sign D-VIII? > > (Including assesment of the included bits & decals) I don't have the Sign kit, only the Eduard. From what I have read elsewhere, the Eduard is the kit to get. As far as markings, though, I recommend finding other sources; everyone I know who has tried to apply Propagteam decals has had problems. I plan on using Americal/Gryphon for the 4-color lozenge, and SuperScale for the rest. Randy -- =============================================================================== Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." --Calvin =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:08:06 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? Message-ID: Allan wrote: >I guess I should have paid atention last time this thread went around! > >Which is bertter, the Eduard or the Sign D-VIII? > >(Including assesment of the included bits & decals) Allan: I assume you're asking because both kits are on sale from Squadron this month. I, too, am interested good, inexpensive kits for games and wondered about the Sign and Eduard kits. My solution was "Buy Both!" So I did. When they get here, I'll let you know what they're like. Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:30:25 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? Message-ID: >Allan wrote: >>I guess I should have paid atention last time this thread went around! >> >>Which is bertter, the Eduard or the Sign D-VIII? >> >>(Including assesment of the included bits & decals) > > >Allan: > >I assume you're asking because both kits are on sale from Squadron this >month. I, too, am interested good, inexpensive kits for games and wondered >about the Sign and Eduard kits. My solution was "Buy Both!" So I did. When >they get here, I'll let you know what they're like. > >Kevin. I have the Sign kit. It would't be hard to top the quality of the plastic or the PE. Have only briefly glanced at the Eduard, but remember it as the nicer one. Lozenge decals in both kits are pretty bad, in my jaundiced view. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 19:40:56 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Spad color study Message-ID: <9700318547.AA854769020@mx.Ricochet.net> During my Airfix Spad 'adventure' I've found it useful to take a copy of scheme template page from C&C's Project Butterfly article and 'color inside the lines' with preliminary paint selections (this can be done with toothpicks to save the repetitive brush cleanings). This has not only demonstrated the approximate final dried colors individually, but perhaps just as important, the contrasts between the pigments, which seem rather muted in ref. photos. Beige has proved to be the most elusive, but I think a lightened Testor's dark tan might do...I like to mix as few colors as possible. My selections so far: Testor's 1166 brown ~ chesnut brown Testor's 1164 OD green ~ light green Testor's 1165 olive ~ dark green Floquil buff + Testor's dark tan ~ beige Any comments are welcome. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 19:21:41 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Lone Star M.1C/ LSM new website Message-ID: <9700318547.AA854769010@mx.Ricochet.net> Uh, oops... Seems the wife printed out the scanned plates, so I'll be sending 'em to you with the rest of the stuff, which has been delayed in shipment. May be able to e-mail 'em eventually, but she's pretty booked up with the online business start-up. Sorry, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Lone Star M.1C/ LSM new website Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 1/30/97 9:26 PM Riordian wrote: >Scott, > >Thanks for the 'heads up' on the website. I'll have the Profile in the mail >tomorrow. My wife has been kind enough to scan the color plates and we'll >attempt to send 'em to you. At what e-mail address would you like them >delivered? Excellent! I'd love to have them! Please send them to , and I'll create the image gallery I had tallked about in the "Offer to Group" thread. I scanned the US Navy Hanriot HD-1 Illustrations that were discussed yesturday, so the M1C won't be alone. Tomorrow I hope to scan a Pup, some of the NASM's Halb.C.IV, and a few others if you are interested. Thanks! Cheers! Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) | IPMS/USA #32841 | "I love cats... IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum | they taste just like chicken!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 01 Feb 97 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Re: D-VIII Eduard or Sign? Message-ID: <199702011138.GAA96534@mime2.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- Allan wrote: > Which is better, the Eduard or the Sign D-VIII? > > (Including assesment of the included bits & decals) I have both kits and concur with most of the previous comments. The Sign kit's plastic is noticeably cruder than Eduard's and differs from the Datafile's plans in several areas including the shape of the wing's trailing edge cut out and wingtips. The P/E in the Sign kit is less detailed for interior but does include a set of wire wheels. Lozenge in both kits is inaccurate, at least compared to the profiles commonly seen in the Windsock publications. Eduard's decals are opaque, in register, and terribly fragile. I ruined the first set of black triangles I tried to apply to the cowling. My second attempt (using another Eduard D. VIII's decals) involved cutting the triangles into individual pieces, and met with more success. The Eduard has markings for two aircraft, E. V. 154/18 and E.V. 152/18, both of Jasta 6, while the Sign kit also includes markings for a E.V 153/18 of Jasta 6, two Polish machines, a US -based D VIII, a Dutch machine, and most striking scheme, Theo Osterkamp's E.V 156/18 of Marine Jasta 2. The scheme has a the fuselage painted entirely in 7 black and 6 yellow stripes. Tailplane is covered in lozenge and the wing is in dark green. I have never seen a photo of this scheme, or even another reference to it. Ken > > -Al > > ====================================================================== ========= > Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! > University of New Hampshire+------------------------------------------ --------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr. unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr. unh.edu > ====================================================================== ========= > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- -- Kenneth Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Avenue Omaha, NE 68123-1073 USA npwe28a@prodigy.com hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 419 *********************