WWI Digest 392 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Duxford? by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 2) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 3) Re: The Lafayette Escadrille by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 4) Re: CBS World War I Documentary by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 5) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by Sandy Adam 6) Re: Duxford? by Sandy Adam 7) Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Mediev by "Brian Bushe" 8) Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... by Sandy Adam 9) Re: Duxford? by barrett@iplink.net (barrett) 10) Re: The Lafayette Escadrille by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 11) Re: Duxford? by GRBroman@aol.com 12) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 13) Nungesser's Nieuport by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 14) Re: Reference Books Spotted at 2 o'clock high... by Graham Nash 15) by Peter Fedders 16) Re: CBS World War I Documentary by Rob 17) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by Rob 18) Re: Monday, 8 January 1917, Plessis by Rob 19) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by Sandy Adam 20) Re: Duxford? by Bill Bacon 21) Re: Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... by Erik Pilawskii 22) Eric Pilawski's Models on-line by aew (Allan Wright) 23) Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 24) Re: Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis by Erik Pilawskii 25) Re: by "Don Rinker" 26) Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Mediev by "Valenciano . Jose" 27) Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... by "Valenciano . Jose" 28) Re: Nungesser's Nieuport by "Valenciano . Jose" 29) Re: Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 30) Biggles by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 31) Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:20:19 -0600 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: Re: Duxford? Message-ID: <199701090520.XAA10169@sh1.ro.com> >Greetings brethren- > > The bride and I are off to London for school vacation in February. >I have heard that the Imperial War Museum has an annex with goodies at >Duxford near Cambridge. Is it worth a day trip? Comments? > >Cheese- Gerry > >Gerry McOsker- Newport Rhode Island. Duxford is a long day trip. The collection takes up the main building and a series of hangars. Its one of the world's great collections and will take a while to go through. Easy to get to by car, although they do drive on the opposite side of the road over there. I was last there in 1991 and do not recall a great deal of WWI stuff, mostly replica. The RAF Museum at Hendon was much better for WWI at that time. And, of course, theres the Shuttleworth collection. Sigh! Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:35:14 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: Ray Boorman writes: >I've only had experience with the Pfalz DXII and even that is still in the >box but it looks very nice. However has there been an improvement in >quality over older Blue Max releases or have they all been on a par with >the Pfalz. The Pfalz seems to compare well in quality with all but the >latest Eduard models IMHO. I have very good reasons for asking about the >quality. I have been tempted to order some of the Blue Max offerings but at >an exchange rate of $2 per GBP and taxes tacked on top they are very pricey >up here in Canada, in other words not something I want to make a mistake >on. Of course I could invite my inlaws over and ask them to bring presents. >Nah no model is worth 2 weeks of the Mother In Law! >However if you have some reasonable mail order outlets could you send >address's in email to me. North American members of this list have already been chastized this week for griping about exchange rates with the pound at present. Don't worry, our time will come again. The cheapest way you are going to get BM kits is order direct, that is once you've decided that you can live with the exchange rate. The kits are sent air mail to you at NO CHARGE, a feature that I have yet to see a mail order house match. I also have yet to find any mail order house list these kits at an equivalent dollar rate for what you are charged buying direct. I do agreee though that these kits are expensive. I'm still trying to decide if the Pfalz is worth it. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:45:59 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: The Lafayette Escadrille Message-ID: >Forwarded from the WWI history list. Does anyone know how to go about >obtaining this magazine? --Bradley > >> >> I may be providing the following information to a large number of people >> already aware of what I am about to say, but I'll chance it. There is >> published in France an outstanding magazine about aviation. It is titled >> "Icare," and is "revue de l'aviation francaises editee par le Syndicat >> National des Pilotes de Ligne." The editor is Jean Lassere, a chief pilot >> of Air France who pilots Concordes. I met hims several years ago when he >> visited the Marine Corps Historical Center to do some research for his >> issues on Marine aviation in the Pacific War. He has published a number of >> outstanding historical issues, the latest one being #158, which I received >> this week. It is the first of a couple of issues he is putting out on the >> Lafayette Escadrille. Unfortunately for me, the magazine is almost entirely >> in French, but I can make out enough of the language to recognize the names >> of the pilots in the squadron, such as Nungesser, Nordhoff, Hall, Guynemer, >> and others who appear in outstanding contemporary photos. Back issues, >> which are available, feature outstanding stories dealing with WWII in the >> air in Europe and in the Pacific, early ballooning, and the like. Icare is >> published three times a year, and the subscription is 400 francs per year. >> Check it out. Ben Frank Somewhere in my files at home is the address for the journal "Icare". It is lavishly produced in a large, Life magazine sized format (for U.S. readers familarity). Photos are very well reproduced, but publishing pictures is not the main thrust of this magazine, it is quite heavy with French text also. Be warned, this is NOT a modeling magazine. Individual issues are on a single theme and there have been a number of WW I issues since this magazine started. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll see about digging out the address at home and posting it here in a couple of days (it will take me that long to find it). FYI, as of Tuesday the exchange rate for the Franc was: 5.29 FF/ US$1.00, making an Icare subscription about $75.00. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:51:37 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: CBS World War I Documentary Message-ID: <199701090551.AA10145@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan wrote: > Also of interest (to me at least) was American Cpt. Fiorella Laguardia > (sp?) who flew for the Italians. Anyone have info on him & his > 'plane(s)? 'Bout all I know about LaGuardia is that he flew Caproni bombers with the Italian Squadriglia 5a. There was at least one other semi-famous US Politican who was a world war one pilot - a virtual cigar to the first to identify him. (If there were others, other than the one I'm thinking of, I'll hand out duplicate prizes.) ;-) Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - ............................................................................. - This space for rent - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:44:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > Yikes, sounds like work, instead of a hobby. Did you look at the > plastic sheet that's corrugated, or look into corrugate metal > from the model railroad shop? I know the plastic sheet exists, > I'm just not 100% sure of the metal. I don't think I've ever seen thin corrugated plastic sheet in shops in the UK although the DI fuselage is so thin it would probably have meant replacing whole (exterior) cockpit sides to look right. I don't have plans for any other Junkers as yet so probably won't need but you can never tell. I do have some very useful wire mesh pattern plastic sheet which I acquired so long ago I can't recall source. It may be slightly out of absolutely exact scale but I use it for scratching radiators etc. Quite often these things lie in the bits box for years and suddenly they are perfect for the job in hand! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:52:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Duxford? Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Gerald P. McOsker wrote: > The bride and I are off to London for school vacation in February. > I have heard that the Imperial War Museum has an annex with goodies at > Duxford near Cambridge. Is it worth a day trip? Comments? Congrats to you and your (presumably 1/1 scale) bride, Gerry. I haven't looked for a while but if you look up museums on the net, I'm sure there is a web page for Duxford which tells you what they've got. I remember it as OK but if time is limited DO NOT, repeat DO NOT miss RAF Museum at Hendon. (PC10 Heaven!). You can get there by tube. Also if your bride is tolerant an hour's drive north would get you to Old Warden for the Shuttleworth collection. You might even see the LVG, Brisfit, SE5, Pup etc FLYING. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:17:54 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Mediev Message-ID: <199701091027.KAA10469@itl.net> re: Re: Yet Another Product Idea from T > I have batted this idea around a few years ago with Ray Rimell and others as > a means to lure, er, I mean assist others into our happy little hobby and to > ensure that kit makers still love us. > > The idea was to write a comprehensive little "How To" book on WWI aircraft > modeling. It would cover the usual painting, rigging etc. along with struts, > proper wing alignment, (how to do, I mean, make a jig) and rib tapes perhaps > a little description on some of the finishing practises on the real aircraft > (e.g. semi gloss finish, how the markings and personal schemes were applied, > the different forms of national markings) and cockpits. It would focus on > both 1/72 amd 1/48 as there is a different strategy for each. Vacuform > techniques would have to be a section in itself. Maybe Bob at Sierra and > Steve Hustad would be featured here! > Another section would be "Silk Purses from Sow's Ears" or how to get the most > out of a less than great kit. > > I can see it now! New York Times Best Seller list. A renaissance in the > appreciation of WWI Aviation. Revell, Monogram Tamiya and Hasagawa fighting > over themselves to get the next WWI issue out. Mongram dropping its upcoming > 1/48 scale WWII bomber to make way for a 1/48 Staaken RVI. All it would > take would be for this happy group to teach the masses. > > Naaaah... > Seems to me that all of the required information has been covered by the semi random transmissions of this group over the last two and a half years (how long exactly? I'm sure I've been subscribed for at least that long). What the world really needs (!) is the collected correspondence of the wwi mailing list, editing for worrying threads regarding ax murdering and other bizarre subjects. The contest for the naming of such a tome is now open. First prize: one glencoe Albatos kit. Second prize: two glencoe albatros kits. My entry: Rigging the email. (sorry but I haven't got time to think of a good one, this idea only just occured to me: apologies to whoever if they mentioned it before. Your house is at risk if your wife finds all those unmade kits.) Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems Denmark Street (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:05:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > > The idea was to write a comprehensive little "How To" book on WWI aircraft > modeling. It would cover the usual painting, rigging etc. along with struts, > proper wing alignment, (how to do, I mean, make a jig) and rib tapes perhaps > a little description on some of the finishing practises on the real aircraft > (e.g. semi gloss finish, how the markings and personal schemes were applied, > the different forms of national markings) and cockpits. It would focus on > both 1/72 amd 1/48 as there is a different strategy for each. Vacuform > techniques would have to be a section in itself. Did Harry Woodman not beat you to this with Scale Model Aircraft in Plastic Card back in '75? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:13:26 -0500 From: barrett@iplink.net (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Duxford? Message-ID: >>I was last there in 1991 and do not recall a great deal of WWI stuff, mostly >replica. The RAF Museum at Hendon was much better for WWI at that time. >And, of course, theres the Shuttleworth collection. > >Eli Geher To the list members: I was at Hendon in late 1990 around the time of the Battle of Britain 50th anniversary. Besides the great collection of Spitfires & Hurricanes (and the ME 109, and the Stuka, and the Halifax, and the...), they had a fantastic set of allied WWI aircraft on display. If memory serves, they had a Gunbus, Pup, Camel, Se5a, Nieuport, and several others: all in excellent condition. I have the photos around here somewhere; but in any event, if they're still on display, they are worth seeing! Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 09:03:45 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Re: The Lafayette Escadrille Message-ID: <32D524F1.7067@host.dmsc.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > > Somewhere in my files at home is the address for the journal "Icare". > It is lavishly produced in a large, Life magazine sized format (for U.S. > readers familarity). Photos are very well reproduced, but publishing > pictures is not the main thrust of this magazine, it is quite heavy with > French text also. Be warned, this is NOT a modeling magazine. Individual > issues are on a single theme and there have been a number of WW I issues > since this magazine started. > > If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll see about digging out the > address at home and posting it here in a couple of days (it will take me > that long to find it). > > FYI, as of Tuesday the exchange rate for the Franc was: > 5.29 FF/ US$1.00, making an Icare subscription about $75.00. > Charles, Thanks for the information!-- but at $75 a year, it is well out of my price range, so don't dig for the address on my account. I will see whether I can locate the magazine through our university library. Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:27:25 -0500 (EST) From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Duxford? Message-ID: <970109082725_172005569@emout13.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-01-08 19:54:59 EST, you write: > > The bride and I are off to London for school vacation in February. >I have heard that the Imperial War Museum has an annex with goodies at >Duxford near Cambridge. Is it worth a day trip? Comments? Ah Gerry, I still have my guide booklet from the great museum jaunt of late summer 91, after finishing up that Gulf thingy, the Frau and I decided to go to England and we visited the National Army Museum, the IWM and Duxford. Duxford is great, they had a V-1 a B-52 and alll manner of neat stuff. By all means go. Have fun, Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:32:31 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: <199701091332.FAA12004@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> I would recommend the Blue Max Nie. 28: nothing else to add, lots of colorful schemes, and best of all, no PE! Not cheap - about US$35 if ordered directly from Chris Gannon - but a real beauty! Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:43:08 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Nungesser's Nieuport Message-ID: <199701091343.IAA06789@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I forgot who started this one, but a question arose regarding one of Nungesser;s Nieuports and if it was camoflaged. Both the Datafile Special and # 20 show the same picture of a N. 17, #1490. The photo in #20 seems a little clearer than in the Special. It still will leave lots of room for folks to argue, I suspect. Anywazy, the caption say that it is camo , sprayed green and brown. There clearly is an extension of the underside color to the top that outlines the wings and horizontal stabilizer. It probably had a "blue cone de penetration" The photo is rather dark, so it's hard to tell about the colors, etc. The outline on the wing is clearly evident, as is Nungesser's Black Heart motif. The caption claims it is the plane he flew while attached to the Lafayette Escadrille. It had both a sync. vikers and an overwing lewis. There are color pictures in both Datafiles. OK let the color police continue their attack. HTH(heh, heh) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:10:21 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Reference Books Spotted at 2 o'clock high... Message-ID: <199701091410.AA00559@egate.citicorp.com> An update to my note of yesterday, a bookshop near me has the following remaindered books: 6 copies of P.Kilduff's Over the Battlefronts GBP 7.00 h/back 3 copies of P.Kilduff's Richtofen, Beyond the Legend.. GBP 5.99 p/back 2 copies of Chaz Bowyer Handley Page Bombers of WW1 GBP 9.99 h/back The shop will do international mail order for orders totalling GBP25, plus P&P, but I can help if people only want single items and are willing to send small amounts of cash in the post. As a matter of interest, couldn't the WW1 Modellers HomePage carry details of wants/swaps? I'm sure I would find it invaluable, and besides, I really enjoy helping people find items that they're looking for. For instance, I know of a number of shops a number of which are non-specialist, that have 2nd hand books/magazines, including Airfix/Scale Models/Scale Aviation Modelling/ Aviation News etc. and as I visit them semi-regularly anyway, I could look out for wanted items. Just a thought anyways... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:29:15 -0600 From: Peter Fedders To: wwi Message-ID: <199701091429.IAA23158@howdy.wustl.edu> On Duxford, There are a lot of aircraft at Duxford and it is very well done. I've been there twice and there were planes taking off and landing evbery half hour or so - mostly WII aircraft. You shouldn't miss it. If you don't have a car, there is a bus between Cambridge and London that stops at the museum is you make arrangements before hand - when you buy your tickets. It is very cheap. If you have a car, the Shuttleworth collection is only 30-45 minutes away from Duxford. In a town called Biggleswade (Sp ??) The Shuttleworth is fantastic. Many WWI and earlier aircraft - all in flying condition. In fact they fly them several times a year. For WWI, Shuttleworth is much better than Duxford. If you don't have a car, I believe that a bus goes there from London but I don't know much about it.. paf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:12:12 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: CBS World War I Documentary Message-ID: <9701090909.aa22680@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Riordan wrote: > > > Also of interest (to me at least) was American Cpt. Fiorella Laguardia > > (sp?) who flew for the Italians. Anyone have info on him & his > > 'plane(s)? A modest amount of info is available in the Champlin Fighter Museum-published book on the American Air Service in WW1 (possible title: The First Eagles). Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:15:07 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: <9701090912.aa22739@scosysv.speechsys.com> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Yikes, sounds like work, instead of a hobby. Did you look at the > > plastic sheet that's corrugated, or look into corrugate metal > > from the model railroad shop? I know the plastic sheet exists, > > I'm just not 100% sure of the metal. Sandy replied > I don't think I've ever seen thin corrugated plastic sheet in shops in the > UK Evergreen makes styrene metal roofing for railroad models that is terrific for corrugated metal. You have to build to the scale of the sheet, however. It would work for 1/48. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:18:35 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Monday, 8 January 1917, Plessis Message-ID: <9701090916.aa22784@scosysv.speechsys.com> >To-day completes my 2 years absence from the Navy and under the > laws I am not liable to detention should I return to the States but I have lost my > citizenship and can only be reinstated by a direct pardon from the President. For the > present I'm practically a man without a country. God grant I can secure a pardon when I > go back! So, he's a mercenary and a deserter who has lost his citizenship. And he wonders why dear Gertie's older and wiser female relatives are not encouraging the correspondence? Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:38:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Ray Boorman wrote: > I've only had experience with the Pfalz DXII and even that is still in the > box but it looks very nice. However has there been an improvement in > quality over older Blue Max releases or have they all been on a par with > the Pfalz. I've never seen the Fokker Dr1 but it got a good review in SMI recently -it is likely unobtainable now and the DML is excellent so it probably is not of much interest to you. The SPAD VII and Nie 11 are not in the same league as the Pfalzes DIIIa and DXII which are splendid. They are all pretty accurate against datafiles etc but the SPAD wings are overthick at trailing edge and difficult to correct easily. Cockpits are a bit of a joke but what's new? I scratched/converted a DML SPAD XIII to a VII at the same time as building the Blue Max as I wanted to use both sets of markings and the conversion was probably no more time consuming than the kit! N.11 is nice and thin - almost transparent white plastic and I shall try some sort of see-through rib effect when I get round to mine. I expect this kit to look right when finished, although the initial impression is that it is a bit basic. I reported elsewhere on the work so far put into the Junkers but it is such a beautiful (ie ugly) subject that I had to have it. I won't bother with the Nie 28 as I am quite happy with my Aurora conversion of some years back, but all reports on the Blue Max kit are good. What is it about the Nie 28? - for such a crap aeroplane it is such a popular subject! I know that the US had it foisted on its pilots for want of anything better when they entered the war and Campbell and Rickenbacker flew it. Surely this doesn't mean that we have to have more, and/or better, kits of this than Camels or SE5s for god's sake - after all, if you are a chauvinist the US did use the latter two as well! The Blue Max DH2 has been written about enthusiastically enough on this list without me needing to add anything. BTW did anybody else have the problem I had with my Pfalz DXII where the upper wing had too little raw plastic applied resulting in a malnutrition of the port leading edge. I looked inside another two boxes in Hannants shop in London and saw they had the same problem. A line dropped to Pegasus resulted in a speedy dispatch of replacement wing but this might not be so easy if you are several thousand miles away. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:15:56 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Duxford? Message-ID: <32D527CC.75AE@netjava.net> Gerald P. McOsker wrote: > > Greetings brethren- > > The bride and I are off to London for school vacation in February. > I have heard that the Imperial War Museum has an annex with goodies at > Duxford near Cambridge. Is it worth a day trip? Comments? > > Cheese- Gerry > > Gerry McOsker- Newport Rhode Island. > > "The whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the > level of stupidity attained by the bourgeois" Gistave Flaubert > or is it to lower the bourgeoise to the level of stupidity enjoyed by the > underclass? ...machs nicht! Gerry, Don't miss the RAF Museum at Hendon, The Science Museum in Kensington (London), The Imperial War Museum in London, The Shttleworth Collection in Biggleswade, an The Fleet Air Arm Museum in Yeovilton. All are great. Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@nerjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:42:32 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... Message-ID: > Hey, it sounds great, and shouldn't be too hard to scale > *correctly* to 1/72nd. > Right on, man. > > Matt, 1/48 of course :-( > > > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah > > Erik, is Cheeky Swine appropriate here? ;-) > Hit the Nail on the Head... Of course, one can do that in Balloon Scale... ;^) Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "If you're not living Life on the edge, you're taking up too much room!" .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:16:40 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Eric Pilawski's Models on-line Message-ID: <199701091916.OAA08390@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi WWI list, Just a quick WWW page update. I've scanned in some of Eric Pilawski's photos of his models. They're in the standard place on the WWW page. Take a look - there is some nice stuff there - especially the wood grain detail on the Roland D-VIb he did. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:04:35 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis Message-ID: <32D58793.2F69@host.dmsc.net> 890th day of the war. Rainy and miserable. Wrote up some more of my 1915 War Diary this morning. It is interesting but rather tiresome work. I've a lot to do yet before it is finished for I've all 1916 to do when I complete the 1915 part. Parsons back for the afternoon but returned to Paris on 6 o'clock train. I'd go in myself if I had sufficient funds on me to guarantee a good time. As it is I'm decidedly "short." Found out that we won't be able to leave for the front until at least next week. Received a Postal from my old Legion comrade, Louis Ester, my little South American friend from Colombia. He is well and still in the regiment. Wrote him a long letter this evening. Have finished a letter to beloved Gertrude asking her to tell me if she really loves me any more or not. I simply can't stand going on and on in this utter ignorance. Its utterly unbearable. *************************** from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson wrote: > regiment. Wrote him a long letter this evening. Have finished a letter to > beloved Gertrude asking her to tell me if she really loves me any more or > not. I simply can't stand going on and on in this utter ignorance. Its > utterly unbearable. > My Dear Genet, You simply *must* get a grip on yourself, man! This bird has flown the coop (as it were), spied a wealthy arms merchant, and settled down in Mayfair to wallow in boring upper-crust society for the rest of her life. Send some more flowers to Mary, you cheeky devil.... Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "If you're not living Life on the edge, you're taking up too much room!" .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:11:37 -0500 From: "Don Rinker" To: Subject: Re: Message-ID: ---------- > From: Peter Fedders from > Duxford. In a town called Biggleswade (Sp ??) The ^^^^^^^ THe town where Group Capt. Biggles went for a swim?? ;-( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:52:06 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Mediev Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Brian Bushe wrote: > > The idea was to write a comprehensive little "How To" book on WWI aircraft > > modeling. It would cover the usual painting, rigging etc. along with struts, > > proper wing alignment, (how to do, I mean, make a jig) ..... I'm all for this. Who'll act as editor for this treatise? > What the world really needs (!) is the collected correspondence of > the wwi mailing list, editing for worrying threads regarding ax > murdering and other bizarre subjects. I do have something like this on my hard disk now. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:53:23 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Yet Another Product Idea from Theodoric of York, Medievil Modeler.... Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Sandy Adam wrote: > > The idea was to write a comprehensive little "How To" book on WWI aircraft > > modeling. It would cover the usual painting, rigging etc. ... > > Did Harry Woodman not beat you to this with Scale Model Aircraft in > Plastic Card back in '75? > Sandy But we have to update info. He made no mention of superglue did he? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:56:21 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Nungesser's Nieuport Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Mary-Ann/Michael wrote: > I forgot who started this one, but a question arose regarding one of > Nungesser;s Nieuports and if it was camoflaged. (snip) Let me add a branch to this thread, Did Nungesser fly a Nieuport 11? If so, what colours was it in? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:23:38 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Tuesday, 9 January 1917, Plessis Message-ID: <199701100023.TAA09516@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 03:20 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson wrote: >890th day of the war. Rainy and miserable. Wrote up some more of my 1915 >War Diary this morning. It is interesting but rather tiresome work. I've >a lot to do yet before it is finished for I've all 1916 to do when I >complete the 1915 part. Parsons back for the afternoon but returned to >Paris on 6 o'clock train. I'd go in myself if I had sufficient funds on >me to guarantee a good time. As it is I'm decidedly "short." Found out >that we won't be able to leave for the front until at least next week. >Received a Postal from my old Legion comrade, Louis Ester, my little >South American friend from Colombia. He is well and still in the >regiment. Wrote him a long letter this evening. Have finished a letter to >beloved Gertrude asking her to tell me if she really loves me any more or >not. I simply can't stand going on and on in this utter ignorance. Its >utterly unbearable You know, the last things I ever would have thought of Genet, before reading his diary that is, is what a whiner he's turning out to be. How can a guy who volunteers to fights in a war, loses his citizenship, throws his body around the sky in crates of wood a fabric turn out to be such a wimp????????? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:23:40 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Biggles Message-ID: <199701100023.TAA09527@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 05:22 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Don Rinker wrote: > > >---------- >> From: Peter Fedders >from >> Duxford. In a town called Biggleswade (Sp ??) The > ^^^^^^^ > THe town where Group Capt. Biggles > went for a swim?? ;-( OK, here's a request I'm sure someone can help with. Ever since learning about Biggles a few years ago, I wanted to pick up one of the books just for nostalgia sake. I tried a bunch of old bookstores, but none even knew what I was talking about. One store in Athens, Ohio found the titles and author(A pilot named Johns...pretty good article in C&C a year or so ago) and assured me they'd be able to find one. That was 18 months ago and I've yet to hear anything. Anyone have one they are willing to part with for not too much? I think one called The White Fokker(or maybe The White Albatros) is supposed to be a typical one. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:23:42 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ultimate ragwing in 1/48] Message-ID: <199701100023.TAA09536@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 11:42 AM 1/9/97 -0500, Sandy Adam wrote: > . What is it about the Nie 28? - for such a crap aeroplane it is such >a popular subject! I know that the US had it foisted on its pilots for >want of anything better when they entered the war and Campbell and >Rickenbacker flew it. Surely this doesn't mean that we have to have >more, and/or better, kits of this than Camels or SE5s for god's sake - >after all, if you are a chauvinist the US did use the latter two as well! My guess would be in the simple yet elegant lines of the airplane. At a dinner a few years ago with some people from OTF, we argued over the "prettiest"(for lack of a better word) WWI airplane. The Nie 28 came in first, with the Pfalz D-III/a a close second. Mike Muth ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 392 *********************