WWI Digest 387 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Rigging stuff... by mbittner@juno.com 2) Re: Ah'm Back! by mbittner@juno.com 3) Re: 1996 Projects (was "A'hm Back") by "Bill Ciciora" 4) Re: Ah'm Back! by "Shelley Goodwin" 5) Atlantic Coast Chapter, Spring Meeting by ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) 6) Re: Ah'm Back! by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 7) datum line by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 8) Re: Rigging stuff... by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 9) Re: Fokker Dr.I machine guns (was: This List) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 10) Re: Re[2]: Nieuport articles by "Ray Boorman" 11) Re: Ah'm Back! by "Ray Boorman" 12) Re: Ah'm Back! by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 13) Re: 1996 projects (Ah'm Back!) by "S.M. Head" 14) Re: This List (- forgetting the Great War) by Sandy Adam 15) Re: SE5a Book/Currency Rates by Sandy Adam 16) Saturday, 6 January 1917, Plessis by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 17) WWW Page Updated by aew (Allan Wright) 18) by Peter Fedders 19) by Peter Fedders 20) Re[8]: This List - Air or Armor? by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 21) Re: SE5a Book/Currency Rates by "Brian Bushe" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 21:04:30 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging stuff... Message-ID: <19970105.200536.11174.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:18:20 -0500 "Valenciano . Jose" writes: > Were turnbuckles present on every rigging line on a plane? What > do you guys use to simulate turnbuckles? Not sure if they were present everywhere, but in 1/72nd, who's going to notice if they're there or not? What do you 1/48th guys use? Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 21:04:30 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Ah'm Back! Message-ID: <19970105.200536.11174.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 19:02:57 -0500 "Valenciano . Jose" writes: > What models have we finished & worked on this year? Finished: - Rebuilt 1/72nd Pegasus SSW D.III - 'Mother' conversion of the 1/76th Airfix "Mk.II" tank Worked on: - 1/72nd Pegasus Roland D.II - 1/72nd Nieuport 11 conversion (combination scratch, ESCI and Rosemont) - 1/48th Eduard Albatros D.V - 1/72nd Temens Morane Saulnier type I Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:23:50 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: 1996 Projects (was "A'hm Back") Message-ID: Joey asked: > What models have we finished & worked on this year? Finished: Smer Ansaldo SVA-5 (started late 1995) Glencoe Pfalz D.III Lindberg S.E.5a Smer Nieuport 11 Worked (working) on: DML Fokker D.VIII I single-thread my models. Gets too complicated for me to have more than one going at once. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 18:33:40 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: Ah'm Back! Message-ID: <9700058525.AA852519610@mx.Ricochet.net> Joey, Do you have the RPM "Polish" PuW bomb set? Rare, but a must for G-planes in 1/72. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Ah'm Back! Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 1/5/97 4:04 PM Hi All, A Happy and prolific New Year to all. May I start a thread here? What models have we finished & worked on this year? Finished: DML Fokker Dr.I Eduard Eindekker Eduard SSW D.III Worked on: Sierra AEG G.IV Sierra H.B. 29 Sierra Roland C.II How about you? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:32:36 -0500 From: ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) To: wwi Subject: Atlantic Coast Chapter, Spring Meeting Message-ID: >Date: 05 Jan 97 21:52:55 EST >From: "Louis E. Della Torre, Jr" <71505.1421@CompuServe.COM> >Subject: Atlantic Coast Chapter, Spring Meeting > >To: Officers and Directors, Atlantic Coast Chapter, League of World >War I > Aviation Historians (and whoever else it may concern) > >From: Louis E. Della Torre, Jr., Chapter President > >Date: 1/5/97 > >Re: Spring, 1997 meeting > > A Happy and Healthy New Year to one and all. > > Now that the Holidays are behind us, its time to get ready for the >"Big Push," or more accurately for the Spring 1997 meeting. Given the >need to allow for a reasonable amount of lead time to notify the >membership, we have at most three months to get everything organized. > > We still lack a topic and a site. My anticipation is that the >former will determine the latter. Since we are not in a position to pay >any significant honorarium, or even major travel expenses the meeting will >have to be at a location convenient to the speaker or speakers. > > I note, however, that there is some sentiment for holding the >meeting at a Southerly location, possibly in Virginia. Since we have >never had a meeting further South than College Park, Maryland, such a >venue would seem appropriate. Again, however, that assumes we can get a >speaker at such a locale. > > What input I have gotten on subject matter suggests support for a >presentation on Capt. Arthur Raymond ("Ray") Brooks, USAS. Also, based on >discussions I have seen recently on the Internet, a presentation on >aircraft weapons, i.e., machine guns and bombs would also be of interest. >Ideally, I would like to have a talk on Ray Brooks in the morning and one >on aircraft machine guns in the afternoon, or vice-versa. If we decide to >postpone the Southern meeting until Fall and have the Spring meeting in >New Jersey, this would, as I have previously mentioned, be a natural for a >joint meeting with the Northern New Jersey Section of the American >Institute or Aeronautics and Astronautics. (There is also another >connection. I had some correspondence with Ray Brooks way back when, and >I recall he had a very low opinion of the Vickers machine gun.) > > The question pour le maison, therefore, is does anyone know >someone who is sufficiently knowledgeable to speak to the chapter on those >subjects. For that matter, does anyone feel knowledgeable enough on >either subject to be willing to speak themselves. > > I'd be personally willing to take a crack at the machine gun >issue, if someone could point me towards some easily accessible source >material. I also recall that there was an article in Over the Front a few >years back (or was it Cross and Cockade) entitled "Belts and Drums" which >discussed this subject. Does anyone recall who the author of that article >was, and know if he would be available? > > I am by no means trying to restrict topics to the ones I >mentioned. For example, I note that the Autumn, 1996 edition of Over the >Front contains a review of a book on the Curtis HS Flying Boats by Kenneth >Molson and A. J. (Fred) Short. This would be another good topic for a >presentation. (Although I gather, since the work is sponsored by the >Canadian National Aviation Museum, that the authors are Canadian. As >previously mentioned, this would eliminate them on the grounds of travel >expenses. Incidentally, would anyone know if Molson is related to the >beer makers? For that matter, is Short related to the aircraft >manufacturers?) > > I have also mentioned R. D. Layton's book on naval aviation. >Again, however, I have the impression that Layton is British, which would >rule him out for the same reason. > > The proverbial bottom line is that we need either [a] volunteers >to give presentations;. or [b] names and addresses of persons who might be >willing to speak; or failing either of those [c] suggestions as to who to >contact about getting speakers. For example, can anyone give me the name >of a contact at the "Big League" or the National Air and Space Museum who >could be helpful in this regard? > > Given the time pressures I have mentioned, an expedited response >would be appreciated. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:53:50 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ah'm Back! Message-ID: <199701060353.WAA19264@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 07:03 PM 1/5/97 -0500, Valenciano . Jose wrote: > >What models have we finished & worked on this year? > >Finished: Albatros DVa 1/48 Aurora kit(Yeah, I know, not a real DVa, but I had to practice on something before the Eduard) SPAD 7(Smer kit) 1/72 Hannoverranner Cl.iii (Nice Polish markings courtesy of Jim ;-)) 1/72 BE2c Meikraft kit And a bunch of others that look like sh.............. > >Worked on: See above 1/72 Roland D-II (Almost done...no rigging however) 1/48 Macchi Nieuport (Almost done....I keep saying that. At least the hard part of the rigging is done) >How about you? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:53:52 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: datum line Message-ID: <199701060353.WAA19273@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Mick, Greg, Shane and anyone else who took time to answer my question on the datum line....THANKS! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:24:36 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging stuff... Message-ID: <199701060424.AA14067@ednet1.orednet.org> Joey Valenciano wrote: >Another rigging question: > >Were turnbuckles present on every rigging line on a plane? >What do you guys use to simulate turnbuckles? I don't mess with 'em and wouldn't think about messing with 'em unless I was doing a "museum scale" aircraft. In 1/48 and smaller, they are just to small to be worth while worrying about - the British turnbuckles, in particular, are usually _very_ small - not much larger in diameter than the wire itself. The German ones are, admittedly, larger but still not worth while worrying about unless you are working in a pretty large scale or are bound and determined to crank out an IPMS Nationals winner. For myself, life is too short. (Secret confession - I have been known to actually omit some rigging wires - (especially in 1/72 and especially the ones that are tucked up there amid (the cabanes which are the devil's own to get rigged and taunt. Ya' know (what - almost no one has ever noticed!) Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:46:26 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker Dr.I machine guns (was: This List) Message-ID: <199701060446.AA25222@ednet1.orednet.org> When we last left our heroes, Mick Fauchon was writing: > > I see what you mean, but I'll have to remain unconvinced. Why are >there two of them? [and don't say: because there are two guns! 80P~]. Is that >panel the same under both wings. > I still dunnooooo 80( > Because, silly, an aircraft doesn't only use its guns in straight and level flight - if you are in a right hand bank and only have a hole in the left side of the fuselage, not many cartridges are gonna exit that hole and things are gonna get jammed up PDQ. (or, maybe the centrifical forces of a right-hand bank would make things work the other way - dunno.) Which brings me to my confession of error - despite the fact that I can't quite figure out just how it is supposed to work, I think Greg's suggestion that the spent cartridges just kinda fly out into some sort of deflector plate and then are gayly tossed into the slip stream is the correct idea, at least in principle. For, if you think about it, I can't imagine any sort of internal, gravity-fed channel for disposing of spent cartridges which would work under all flight attitudes and all conditions of centrifical force. There would be some combination of flight attitude and G forces which would prevent the little suckers from tumbling out. And, if the little suckers don't tumble out just about as fast as they are produced, things would get jammed up in there pretty darn quick. Tough enough to keep the guns from jamming without having to worry about the "cartridge ejector chute" jamming as well. So, in the cold light of morning, I'm tentatively retracting my previous suggestion and withdrawing the suggestion of "the little hole in the plate under the middle wing". I still can't figure out how there is room enough under the MG's for the "fly out onto the deflector plate and then out into the slip stream" suggestion to work but it has gotta be some variation of that 'cause I just see too many practical problems with getting my previous idea to work. Jeez, isn't this fun? Cheers, -- - Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:13:52 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Re[2]: Nieuport articles Message-ID: <199701060520.VAA10524@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> While I was away packing boxes (I'm not moving ever again!!!) to move, Shane answered most of mine and Matt's questions, however I have added a few points. I have kept both Shane's and my parts intact. Sorry about the waste of bandwidth but its easier to read that way. Ray Boorman (rboorman@lynx.bc.ca) ---------- > > BUILDING A NIE 17 using Testors (Hawk Mould) 1:48 kit > > Full interior. Well, there is none, so I need a seat, stick and some > structure at least. I have Nie 17 Datafile and Nieuport Fighters specials > and there are some good pics in some of the Windsock mags. (Toms > Modelworks French interior set has many usefull details appropriate to this > aircraft) > > Lower wingtips. For some reason they are heavily raked. Easy way out would > be to just square them off per the drawings, but then the wings get about > 1/2" too short in span, which an observant judge would twig to I suspect. > Trouble is that lengthening the wings and disguising the joins is a tough > prospect. Actually this might not be as bad as you think. The lower wings don't have enough sweepback (I think thats the correct term). Therefore if they were cut at the root and another section added, it would make the correct sweepback and lengthen the wing. The cuts would have to be angled on both the wing and the inserted section's. Maybe cut-off pins inserted for stiffness in the wing would not be out of line too. Also and I'm not sure about this but the incidence of the upper and lower wings looks different on the plans, is this really true or is this just the way the wing is show from the side? > > Ailerons. They don't have as great an inverse taper as the photos and > drawings depict. It isn't too obvious, but new ones shouldn't be difficult. > The slots for the aileron cranks will be harder, any sensible suggestion > of how to cut them perfectly symetrical, insert the crank, pivot AND wing > spar etc. etc gratefully accepted. I was going to just smooth the cranks off and then put half rings in. It doesn't really solve the problem of but it would look better than the blobs that are curently in place > > Forward Fuselage. Should be asymetrical in cross section and it's clearly > visible. I'll probably add a veneer of plasticard or a blob of milliput to > the port half and recontour it. The access panels, both sides, will need > redoing too. The one thing that the plans show is that the side panels are the same width just different shapes. The Revel 1/72 Neiuport has this moulded correctly, as I looked to try and work out what the shape was on the plans? > > Cockpit position appears to be a little far aft. I may ignore this since > it's not obvious. The alternative is to make a vertical cut fore and aft of > the cockpit, a horizontal one starting at the cowl lacing and remove the > cockpit coaming. Cut 2mm from the front of the removed pieces and relocate > forward. Fill the resultant gap at the rear then move (or is it extend, I > don't recall) the headrest fairing to match. I would also fill in the lacing it looks gross on the model and redo with something a bit more subtle. Rear fuselage, get rid of ribs showing through on the rear fuselage, unless you are modeling an aircraft in flight. See page 6 of the datafile special-Photo 9. Or for those who don't have this the following is what happens. On the ground the sides of the aircraft are smooth from the rear of the cockpit back to the rudder. However in flight the fabric is pulled onto the ribs (wrong word I know but my mind is blank for the correct term). It is very pronounced in the photo's. However if you are weathering the aircraft then dirt and oil would show these lines up. (Also a way to hide mistakes on doped silver surfaces) Also fill in the footplate on the starboard side. The photo's show this for the port side only. > > Exhaust channel. Kit hasn't got one so the underside of the fuselage needs > cutting away and boxing in, then puttying to make the shape. > > Cowling and Engine. It might be possible to drill out the engine, thin the > cowling, cut the slots and add the stiffening strips (is that what they > are?) from strip. There were at least two styles as the datafile shows. Strips that are 5 degrees from vertical on either side, or strips that were exactly horizontal on both sides of the cowl. Were their other types? >However I'll probably turn it down a bit on my handy > dandy (dangerous) drill and use it to plug mold a few shots out of 20 thou. > Then I can mess up a few attempts at making nice even slots. The engine can > be an Aeroclub 110hp le Rhone since I'm not such a maniac as to > scratchbuild one when there is a reasonable alternative. > > Tail skid fairing. Its a flat fin in the kit but should be shaped more like > half of a football. I'll carve it from plastic stock. > > Engraved markings. They have to go of course. Not too hard but if I want to > build a aluminium finish I may opt to skin the wings in card with embossed > ribs and avoid the difficulty of completely erasing all sign of the old > markings under a coat of silver. You could take off all the rib detail (easy to do since its raised lines for once, not trenches) and Redo the ribs at the correct angles if you change the wing sweepback. This would also be another way to hide the wing filler pieces. (Under whatever you use to simulate the corrected ribs) > > Gun(s). From Aeroclub, too lazy again. I like the idea of an aircraft with > both Vickers and Lewis mounts, since it will make it LOOK more complex > without adding all that much work. > > Tail surfaces. The rudder/fin looks a bit thick, and would be easy to > replace. Small effort, big effect, so I will probably do it. Is the > tailplane shape OK ? It differs from the plans but should be easy to sand > down to match. > > Undercarriage. New wheels, maybe. (I don't remember if the wheels are okay) > The wing struts are usable with a little detailing effort but the > undercarriage will take more work. Big problem with the struts. If you correct anything this would be the thing. The struts in front of the cockpit should be angled from either side of the cockpit to meet under the upper wing. The Kit has them going straight up. Now maybe some were built this way but all the refer3ences I had show them meeting. Note this is the rear set of struts just in front of the cockpit not the front ones behind the cowl. > > Rigging. Rigging, and control horns and so on. Painful but necessary for > every WW1 a/c. > > Colour scheme. I'd like to build an aircraft with interesting and colourful > markings, but they mostly seem to be on aluminium doped aircraft which > means the surface modifications need to be shit hot standard. I might cop > out and build a nice green RFC aircraft, which will avoid that trap. In the datafile special they show a camo version for Nungessor (N.1490) upper surfaces green and brown and lower either clear doped or pale yellow?, also has presumed blue 'Cone de penetration'. Page 16 "I" and page 28 Photo 53. > _______________________________________________ > > > Quite a long list which makes my enthusiasm for the kit seem unreasonable. > But my kits are cleanly moulded, fairly good representations of the > prototype (especially considering the age of the mould), provide a neat > basis for an accurate model, and even if I'd paid the $5 list price damned > cheap. > > Yep its a bargain in canuck money or Aussie. IMHO its no more work than any of the Eduard models. Ray Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:31:04 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Ah'm Back! Message-ID: <199701060535.VAA11120@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> ---------- > From: Valenciano . Jose > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Ah'm Back! > Date: Sunday, January 05, 1997 4:02 PM > > > Hi All, > > A Happy and prolific New Year to all. > > May I start a thread here? > > What models have we finished & worked on this year? > > Finished: > DML Fokker Dr.I > Eduard Eindekker > Eduard SSW D.III > > Worked on: > Sierra AEG G.IV > Sierra H.B. 29 > Sierra Roland C.II > > How about you? Ray Replied, Thats damn fast since its only the 5th of January:-), I guess you meant last year eh! Either that or I need more time off. fly: (Finished last year): Eduard 1/72 Sopwith baby Eduard 1/72 Fokker Dviii Hasegawa 1/72 Shiden Kai (Yep I know its one of those Jet things I hate:-) ) Hasegawa 1/72 Ki 43 Oscar started but not finished Pegasus Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter. Yes I know I build slower than a tortoise and worse than that not a single 1/48th. (I'll go hide my head in shame) Ray Boorman (rboorman@lynx.bc.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:04:40 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ah'm Back! Message-ID: <199701060604.WAA06042@concord.televar.com> Jose asks: >What models have we finished & worked on this year? > >Finished: Lindberg SE5a Glencoe Pfalz DIII Eduard Hansa-Brandenburg D-I >Worked on: Eduard EIII Looks like Bill C. and I seem to be the only ones on this list who build 'em one at a time... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 03:51:31 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: 1996 projects (Ah'm Back!) Message-ID: <9701060330.aa21390@mail.iapc.net> >Jose asks: > >>What models have we finished & worked on this year? OK, I'll bite. My projects finished/working for 96 (at least "on-topic" ones) were: 1/72 Pomilio PE (an unknown vac from somone on this list!) 1/72 Fokker E.III (Revell kit) 1/72 Spad VII (Airfix dog) 1/48 Fokker D.VII (DML, finished as Postwar w/ ugly dog on fuselage!) 1/48 Fokker D.VI (Eduard) 1/48 Siemens Shuckert D.III (Eduard, still working) 1/48 Salmson 2A2 (Wings 48 vac, still working) 1/48 Bristol M1C (Lone Star vac, newest issue) 1/48 Morane N (Eduard, favorite kit so far) 1/48 Hannover Cl.II (Eduard, shelved 'til I figure out how to do the fuselage loz) 1/48 Felixstowe F2A (Lone Star Vac, just beginning, long project, tough!) 1/144 Albatross D.III (scratchbuilt) 1/144 Fokker D.VII (scratchbuilt) 1/144 Morane N (scratchbuilt, still working) and that's all! Fun fun fun! Now back to my One-Oh-Ni...!!! (great, I've committed blasphemy eh?) Cheers to all! Scott Head smh@iapc.net Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) | IPMS/USA #32841 | "I love cats... IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum | they taste just like chicken!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:40:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: This List (- forgetting the Great War) Message-ID: Vincent Price wrote: > However, the prospect must be faced that when my children are adults the > First War will be as far removed in history as Waterloo was to the trench > soldier.......Historically interesting but emotionally removed. I suggest a visit to Northern France will change that forever. If you are ever lucky (?!?) enough to get to the Somme or Vimy Ridge or any of the great WWI battle sites or graveyards the experience will be indelible. There is one War Commissions graveyard outside Rouen which is set on rolling hillsides and the terrain disappears off into the distance covered in identical white crosses. As I was standing at my Grandmother's brothers grave for this view it was pretty moving. The place I could never forget is called "La Tranchee des Bayonettes" where a unit of poilus were crouched in their trench with fixed bayonets waiting for the whistle to go over the top, when a german shell landed in front and the concussion killed them all stone dead, burying them in earth. The germans attacked and took the trench but it was retaken by Canadians and the front pushed forward a few hundred yards. As a gesture the dead soldiers were not disturbed and the site became a war grave. As you approach it you see an uneven plot of ground with the ends of several old metre-long bayonets still sticking up out of the earth exactly as they were held (and still are!) 80 years ago. It must be about the quietest place on this planet and if your kids go there knowing nothing of the Great War, they will come away unable to forget it. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:15:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: SE5a Book/Currency Rates Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Charles Hart wrote: > Unfortunately, the pound is rather high versus the dollar at present. > At the begining of 1996 the exchange rate was about US1.52 per pound. My heart bleeds for you - on my first visit to the 'states in 1979 the exchange rate was US2.35 per GBP! Before decimalisation here, ie prior to 1972, the coin worth 2/6 was universally called a half-a-dollar since the exchange rate had been US4.00 per GBP for most of the century. With UK currency having approached third-world status over the last few years please feel a little compassion if the old pound struggles up a cent or two and all the lovely Sierras and Americals etc are slightly more affordable! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:10:02 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Saturday, 6 January 1917, Plessis Message-ID: <32D13FFA.6C1C@host.dmsc.net> Cloudy, windy, and showery towards latter part of the day. Slept late this morning. We Americans having the privilage of living in this hotel in Plessis near the camp, we can sleep when we want to and fly when we wish which the Frenchmen are unable to do. Had a two minute flight in early p.m. but rain made me come down in disgust. Bigelow and Parsons back from Paris and we all received instructions from a mechanic how to run and regulate the 150 hp Hispano-Suiza stationary motor in the Spad biplane de chasse. We all want to make a flight in it before we leave here as it is a machine coming widely and enthusiastically into use by pilotes de combat on the front and we may have one ourselves there in time. It is much faster than the present Nieuport. Parsons and I may get sent out to the front within a week but it seems mighty doubtful indeed. I don't like this continual waiting around this boresome place. Wrote letters to Betty Wright and Helen Mead this evening. Betty is certainly a bright little friend. ************************* from the War Diary of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:42:36 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: WWW Page Updated Message-ID: <199701061442.JAA20949@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Just a quick note to let all the Web surgers know that I've added some more images to the WWW page. Carlos Valdes took a few nice pictures of a Maurice Farman Type 6 Shorthorn from the National Science Museum in Tokyo. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:47:08 -0600 From: Peter Fedders To: wwi Message-ID: <199701061647.KAA20751@howdy.wustl.edu> On seat belts: What was the seat belt situation of 2-seaters (German, English, French). The observer usually had a little stool. Did he have a seat belt?? Did the pilot usually have shoulder straps as well as a lap strap? Or was it assumed that 2-seaters would not fly uside down? thank you paf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:49:41 -0600 From: Peter Fedders To: wwi Message-ID: <199701061649.KAA20802@howdy.wustl.edu> On the air museum in Brussels: Any help here will be greatly appreciated 1) On what days is it closed? 2) Can I take photographs in there? Flash?? Tripod?? thank you paf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:33:28 -0500 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)WWI(a)PEASE1.SR.UNH.EDU" Subject: Re[8]: This List - Air or Armor? Message-ID: <0033000002104645000002*@MHS> Riordan, For German WW I Infantry uniforms, I like Humbrol #31, "Field Grey". Their uniform uniformity steadily deteriated as the war progressed, so late war uniforms were a mixed bag of dark greens and greys and everything inbetween! The Steel Helmet was introduced to the field at the beginning of the battle of Verdun - Feb 1916. I think all front line troops were outfitted with it by the end of that same year (It took awhile to phase it in completely). Eastern front troops perhaps a bit later. The Picklehaub continued to be worn behind the front and at home duty for a while. Neat topic! Steve H. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[7]: This List - Air or Armor? Author: _WWI@PEASE1.SR.UNH.EDU (SMTP.WWI) at SSWGATE Date: 1/3/97 9:48 PM Steve, It just so happens that I have *most* of a set of the Airfix early Germans I bought as a lad, and I think I'm only missing the Maxim...I seem to remember a stretcher, casualties, a few flamethrowers and bangalore (sp?) torpedoes. I've also got a set of Airfix Brit Army from the same period, and they're not near as good. What color/# do you like for uniform field gray? When was the picklehaub 'phased out'? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[6]: This List - Air or Armor? Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 1/3/97 6:40 AM Riordan, Yeah, Squadron Shop has the 1/35 Tauro German WW I figures and regularly runs (heavily) discounted sales on them - for as low as $2.99 each I've seen in the past. If you've seen these white metal 'gargoyles' you'll understand why they're always on sale...;^) Save your money and look elsewhere. Get the catalog from "The Red Lancers" out of Milton, PA if you're looking for a sourse for good white metal & resin figures. They run an ad in FSM magazine every issue. Steve H. (P.S. The 1/76 Revell Germans *may* have a few Bergman MG's - I know it includes a few "Maxim MG" set ups - so I may have spoken too soon before. I'll verify it tonight. The older Airfix 1/76 Germans are far better, but are in early war garb w/picklehaub helmets, and are also very difficult to locate as they've been out of production for a long time now). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:28:17 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: SE5a Book/Currency Rates Message-ID: <199701061737.RAA02287@itl.net> re: Re: SE5a Book/Currency Rates > > > On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Charles Hart wrote: > > Unfortunately, the pound is rather high versus the dollar at present. > > At the begining of 1996 the exchange rate was about US1.52 per pound. > > My heart bleeds for you - on my first visit to the 'states in 1979 the > exchange rate was US2.35 per GBP! Before decimalisation here, ie prior to > 1972, the coin worth 2/6 was universally called a half-a-dollar since the > exchange rate had been US4.00 per GBP for most of the century. > With UK currency having approached third-world status over the last few > years please feel a little compassion if the old pound struggles up a cent > or two and all the lovely Sierras and Americals etc are slightly more > affordable! > Sandy > > He,he. You tell 'em, Sandy. I note that the strengthening of the pound hasn't resulted in price cuts on kits though! I bet when it drops to the same level all the kits will increase in price though 'due to the weakening pound'. Face it guys, you've got it easy stateside so stop wingeing (leave that to the poms). Brian Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems Denmark Street (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 387 *********************