WWI Digest 85 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Sopwith and Hawker. Question by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 2) Re: Where are we all? by Erik Pilawskii 3) Re: Where are we all? by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 4) Re: Where are we all? by vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) 5) Re: Sopwith and Hawker. Question by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: Where are we all? by "Matt Bittner" 7) Re: Where are we all? by "Matt Bittner" 8) Marine Field Jasta info (was: Where are we all?) by "Joseph R. Boeke" 9) Re: Marine Field Jasta info by "Matt Bittner" 10) Latest demographics by "Matt Bittner" 11) Re: Where are we all? by Magne Oevregaard 12) Zenith catalog by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: Where are we all? by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Eduard Albatros D.V in 1/48th by jimmaas@aol.com (JimMaas) 15) Need Skycraft info by cv3@prism.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 16) Insignia #2 by Brian Nicklas 17) Re: Bittner's List by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 18) Re[2]: Where are we all? by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 19) Re: Where are we all? by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 20) To our Texan friends by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 21) Re: Where are we all? by Magne Oevregaard 22) Re: Where are we all? by "Matt Bittner" 23) Ryder collection by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 24) Easter egg spad by "Tomas E. Tirado K" 25) Re: Easter egg spad by John Napper 26) Re: To our Texan friends by Mathoo@aol.com 27) Re: Where are we all? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 28) Re: Where are we all? by "Tomas E. Tirado K" 29) Re: Where are we? by Erik Pilawskii 30) Re: Ryder collection by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 31) Re: Where are we all? by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 32) Re: Where are we all? by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:42:40 -0800 From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Sopwith and Hawker. Question Message-ID: <199604030642.WAA03568@bing.ncw.net> On 04/02/96, David stated: >Sopwith could not survive the post WWI aviation depression. They tried to >build civilian Pups called Doves. Snipes were supplied to the RAF for >awhile. They tried a navel torpedo bomber called a Cuckoo. That was not >enough to stay in business. The Cuckoo was bought by the Japanese and the >Sopwith designer went to Japan and got them started in navel aircraft. Problem with those navel aircraft was that they attracted a lot of lint, which would get blown into the pilots face in flight, making navigation rather hazardous.... Mark R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Thomas Eisenhour wrote: > Austin, Texas. State capital. Land of beautiful women. Only one ugly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I say!! Expect company this summer....(!) Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I have not yet, Sir, had the pleasure of your introduction-- and I suspect that I shall not have, still, after we have met...." A.T.Magnuson, M.P. .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:16:44 -0800 From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604030716.XAA05289@bing.ncw.net> On 04/02/96, Mistah Bittnah gave us the following demographic breakdown: >Actually, I can do this: > >Australia: 3 >Belgium: 1 >Canada: 2 >England: 1 >Phillipines: 1 >USA: 20 > CA: 3 > CO: 2 > GA: 1 > IL: 1 > MN: 1 > NC: 2 > NE: 1 > NH: 1 > NY: 1 > OH: 1 > PA: 1 > RI: 1 > TX: 1 > WA: 4 Glad to see the Evergreen State (aka Washington) with a solid lead of at least 4 on the list. One more thing to demonstrate our superiority. I currently live 16 miles outside of Leavenworth (pop. 1,200), WA - 100 miles east of Seattle, 200 miles West of Spokane, 100 miles South of the Great White North, and - as Dwight Yoakam once said - " a thousand miles from nowhere". As you might guess, there's not much to speak of in the way of model shops around here. Closest ones worth visiting are the American Eagles shops in Seattle and Tacoma, so I tend to rely a lot on mail order. WWI aircraft modeling was a significant part of my early, formative years (thanks to Aurora and an airplane-mad father), but I dropped out in my early teens due to the usual adolescent B.S. Didn't come back to it until late '94, at the age of 32 - and wouldn't you know it, my first subject was the (shudder, shudder) Glencoe DIII!!! Well, I survived - and now build exclusively WWI, in 1/48 only. Main sub-category of interest is aviation in the Mid-East theater. Mark Rook Leavenworth, WA USA lothar@ncw.net WWI builder, percussionist, music promoter, environmentalist, microbrew drinker, and Mystery Science Theater 3000 aficionado...... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:34:47 +1000 (EST) From: vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604030734.RAA20423@world.net> > Where, pray tell, do the rest of you dis-embodied keyboards reside?? > > Steve H. > Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:16:22 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Sopwith and Hawker. Question Message-ID: <199604030717.HAA20466@cso.com> On 3 Apr 96 at 1:40, mark typed diligantly: > >Sopwith could not survive the post WWI aviation depression. They tried to > >build civilian Pups called Doves. Snipes were supplied to the RAF for > >awhile. They tried a navel torpedo bomber called a Cuckoo. That was not > >enough to stay in business. The Cuckoo was bought by the Japanese and the > >Sopwith designer went to Japan and got them started in navel aircraft. > > Problem with those navel aircraft was that they attracted a lot of lint, > which would get blown into the pilots face in flight, making navigation > rather hazardous.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:02:31 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604030703.HAA20265@cso.com> On 2 Apr 96 at 19:13, Jose Valenciano typed diligantly: > How about our man in Japan? He's not in my database. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:09:20 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604030710.HAA20375@cso.com> On 2 Apr 96 at 21:15, KENNETH L HAGERUP typed diligantly: > I'm hurt you left me off your NE tally. Or did you include me and leave > off yourself? Or, as a native Californian, was I in that column? Or was > it the 10 years I spent on Whidbey Island, WA? Well, if you would email me your info for my database, I would have included you. As it was, you've been delinquent in your payments. Uh, yea, right. (Or it could be because you were in the *navy* . :-)) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 08:43:15 -0500 From: "Joseph R. Boeke" To: wwi Subject: Marine Field Jasta info (was: Where are we all?) Message-ID: <9604031339.AA12820@coral.bucknell.edu> Okay, first, thanks to Matt B., I will shortly have a Meikraft Pfalz D.III to start thinking about. I would like to model an aircraft of Marine Field Jasta, and Matt told me there is some info on the planes in the Datafile on the D.IIIa. Does anyone else know of any info on the Marine Field Jasta (I'm starting from scratch here, so almost anything will be useful). Oh yeah, not to mis-jumping on the band wagon, I am located in Lewisburg, PA (home of Bucknell University). I formally lived in the Boston metro region, and visited all of the hobby shops I could find, and August was right, generally, they suck. Before that I lived in Orange County, California, where there was at least two good shops (and convient access to Los Angeles and San Diego shops). I live about a 10 minute walk from my office, but about a 2 - 2 1/2 hour drive from the closest decent hobby shop (which is Rosemont). I suppose that there are shops in Harrisburg and/or Wilkes Barre/Scranton (which are each about an hour away), but I'll be damned if I know where. My main modeling interests are 1/72nd WWI naval aircraft & multi-engined beasts, 1/700 ships, and 1/72 rotary winged aircraft (helicopters for the thesaurus challenged). Occasionally, I can be found modeling a 1/72nd Wildcat, SBD or SAAB aircraft (my splinter camo'ed Viggen is the only model I've ever won a 1st place with (but she is a beauty ;~) One other thing, I will be going to Pittsburgh and Cleveland for business during April, and if anyone knows of any hobby shops that I should stop by and visit please tell. Thanks, - Joe +==================================+===================================+ | Joseph R. Boeke | | | Manager, Prospect Information | Towering genius disdains a beaten | | Bucknell University | path, it seeks regions hitherto | | (717) 524-3200 | unknown. | | (717) 524-3610 (fax) | -- Abraham Lincoln | | boeke@bucknell.edu | | +======================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:01:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Marine Field Jasta info Message-ID: <199604030802.IAA21173@cso.com> On 3 Apr 96 at 8:38, Joseph R. Boeke typed diligantly: Wanted to reply to this via the list for a couple of reasons. You'll see. > I live about a 10 minute walk from my office, but about a 2 - 2 1/2 hour > drive from the closest decent hobby shop (which is Rosemont). I suppose > that there are shops in Harrisburg and/or Wilkes Barre/Scranton (which are > each about an hour away), but I'll be damned if I know where. FWIW, my mom is from Shamokin, and we sometimes return for a family reunion. Next time we do, I'll look you up. > My main modeling interests are 1/72nd WWI naval aircraft & multi-engined > beasts, 1/700 ships, and 1/72 rotary winged aircraft (helicopters for the > thesaurus challenged). Occasionally, I can be found modeling a 1/72nd > Wildcat, SBD or SAAB aircraft (my splinter camo'ed Viggen is the only model > I've ever won a 1st place with (but she is a beauty ;~) Wow. I've always envied people who have the patience to paint a Viggen. Even though it's "not of the the genre", you have MY respect! ;-) > One other thing, I will be going to Pittsburgh and Cleveland for business > during April, and if anyone knows of any hobby shops that I should stop by > and visit please tell. The only one I can remember is one called Wings, located in Lakewood. Unfortunately, the address escapes me, but it's on one of the main streets of Lakewood, Detroit. Should be only a ten to fifteen minute drive from downtown Cleveland. There are others, but they're all new since I lived there. I'll email my dad, and see if he can come up with anything. I'm pretty sure there's one within walking distance of Tower City downtown, but that's all I know. :-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:11:01 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Latest demographics Message-ID: <199604030811.IAA21328@cso.com> Well, after a couple days, and a few new entries, my database consists of the following demographics: Australia: 3 Belgium: 1 Canada: 3 England: 1 Japan: 1 Phillipines: 1 USA: 29 AK: 1 AL: 1 CA: 3 CO: 3 GA: 2 IL: 1 MA: 1 MN: 1 MO: 1 NC: 3 NE: 1 (no, Ken, you haven't sent me anything) NH: 1 NY: 1 OH: 1 PA: 2 RI: 1 TX: 1 WA: 5 Again, if you don't think you're in my database, and want to be, then email me (not the list) with: First Name Middle Initial Last Name City State/Province Country E-mail address 40 characters worth of comment And, once again, the purpose of the database is for traveling purposes. If you think you're traveling, and would like to get in touch with a member of the area you're going to, then email me with the location, and I'll email you back the email address of those in the area you're traveling to. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 16:21:44 +0200 From: Magne Oevregaard To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <31628978.41C67EA6@tananger.geco-prakla.slb.com> I Have been on this list for a couple of months now, and this was a great opportunity to introduce myself. So here it comes : My name is Bernt Magne Ovregard and I come from a town called Sandnes in Norway. (South-West corner) I am a member of RPMF (Rogaland Plast Moldell Forening), this is a local IPMS chapter. (We have our meetings in "Sola flight Historic Museum" near Sola airport. (nice location!)). (This is the first mail I have sent to a mailing-list in my life!!). Cheers Magne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:24:22 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Zenith catalog Message-ID: <199604030825.IAA21573@cso.com> The latest Zenith (book) catalog arrived the other day. There are two items of interest. In light of a current thread, the first item is a sale item: _Pure Luck_, The Authorized Biography of Sir Thomas Sopwith, 1888-1989; US$14.98. The second item is a new book: _Battlebags_, British Airships of the First World War; US$39.95. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:35:53 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604030836.IAA21774@cso.com> On 3 Apr 96 at 9:20, Magne Oevregaard typed diligantly: > I Have been on this list for a couple of months now, and > this was a great opportunity to introduce myself. > So here it comes : > > My name is Bernt Magne Ovregard and I come from a town > called Sandnes in Norway. (South-West corner) Welcome! It's great to see more people added to this list. > I am a member of RPMF (Rogaland Plast Moldell Forening), > this is a local IPMS chapter. > (We have our meetings in "Sola flight Historic Museum" near > Sola airport. (nice location!)). This brings something to mind: are there anyother member's whose club meets in a "great location"? For example, the Fort Crook chapter of the IPMS (the one I'm in) meets at the SAC (Strategic Air Command) Museum. > (This is the first mail I have sent to a mailing-list > in my life!!). And you didn't mention 1/48th!! You are now currently a perfect list member - maybe the only one! ;-) Hey, you flying-scale types, why so silent? Matt ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1996 20:45:58 -0500 From: jimmaas@aol.com (JimMaas) Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros D.V in 1/48th Message-ID: <4jncgm$9s8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> The Eduard kit it a real knockout. The plastic is of 'conventional' thickness - i.e. you could be confused if someone put 'Monogram' on the box. The main clue to this being a short run kit is the lack of locating pins for the fuselage. The interior reflects the company's move away from an obsessive use of photo-etch brass for structural parts - for the most part, they use the brass for the things it's best for, like the radiator. Alternate props (and respective spinners) are provided. My only quibbles are: the vertical fin should be faired into the rear fuselage (and this is easily done with filler) and the joint line for the one-piece horizontal stab doesn't follow the actual line - the rear narrows too much and should be filled and rescribed. Botom line on this kit: I'm no longer unhappy about DML's failure to do an Albatros. Decals are for Goering's black fuselage/white nose and tail, and one of Hippel's Jasta 5 machines, the one with the zig-zag arrow. Also, Aeromaster has a couple of great D.III/D.V sheets out. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1996 22:23:50 -0500 From: cv3@prism.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) Subject: Need Skycraft info Message-ID: <4jni86$quk@acmex.gatech.edu> Hello all, I was wondering if this English manufacturer was still in business. I am interested in finding out if its resin Albatros D.III is still available. Would anyone know the current address? TIA. Carlos -- Carlos Valdes Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!cv3 Internet: cv3@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 10:17:10 EST From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Insignia #2 Message-ID: <199604031515.KAA06377@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Just got the second issue of Insignia Magazine in the mail. (Thanks Richard!) This is a beauty! If you liked issue 1, you'll love issue 2. Not only a lot of small air forces articles, but a lot of small air force ragwings! Decals for a 1/72 Slovene Mil Mi-8. Contents: Slovene Mi-8 Latvia's Air Forces Bulgarian Air Force Modern Soviet Helicopter in US OPFOR units Yugoslav Photo Album Albatros D.III (Oef) - part 2 Book Review - Imperial Russian Air Service Carinthian War Update Cancelled - Saab A 36 Thai Air Force Museum (Good piece!) Slovene 15 brigada Slovenia markings Biafra Babies (MFI-9B) All in all a great issue, something for everyone, and those on this list will find something to enjoy. Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 09:44:03 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Bittner's List Message-ID: <9604031540.AA18405@deimos.tx.iex.com> >Tom Eisenhour, Scott Head and I make three Texans. Any sumbitch says >three and a half and he'll meet mah Winchester. Four damnit! Or maybe I only count a half since I prefer non-static modeling ;-) Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 07:50:46 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Where are we all? Message-ID: <9603038285.AA828546723@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> Matt I'm hurt you left me off your NE tally. Or did you include me and leave off yourself? Or, as a native Californian, was I in that column? Or was it the 10 years I spent on Whidbey Island, WA? Probably the bit about spending 10 years on Whidbey; you're a marked man dreaming of A6 Intruders all night long. ---Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 09:59:35 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <9604031556.AA18557@deimos.tx.iex.com> Hey Matt! >Hey, you flying-scale types, why so silent? Some of us are still here! In fact I tossed a msg out yesterday! Some of the guys have left I think. There is a new list (it's manual at the moment) that is starting up for the guys who are interested in the same period of aircraft but do R/C etc. Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 07:55:33 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: To our Texan friends Message-ID: <9603038285.AA828547083@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> Hey here's one: There's the Texan who goes gets into Harvard Law School and his first day on campus he goes up to another student and says, "Excuse me; where's the library at?" The other student sneers at him for a second then says, "At Harvard, one does not end a sentence in a preposition." The Texan looks at him a second then says, "OK, where's the library at, asshole?" ^^^^^^^ --Stephen Tontoni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:59:18 +0200 From: Magne Oevregaard To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <3162A056.167EB0E7@tananger.geco-prakla.slb.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > Hey, you flying-scale types, why so silent? > > Matt Writing more from now on, I promise! :-) cheers Magne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:06:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604031007.KAA23336@cso.com> On 3 Apr 96 at 10:56, Douglas R. Jones typed diligantly: > Some of the guys have left I think. There is a new list (it's manual at the > moment) that is starting up for the guys who are interested in the same > period of aircraft but do R/C etc. Wow. That's - in a way - too bad. I can understand the frustration with us static guys, but I hope we didn't put them off too bad. Maybe it was the scale flak. ;-) However, good luck to them, and all their endeavors. I do have a couple of the flying-scale folks in my database, maybe I need to purge them - once I find out who is and isn't on the list. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:13:38 -0600 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: Ryder collection Message-ID: <199604031613.KAA15552@sh1.ro.com> >What happened to the Ryder collection? did the CPAs part it out to the >highest bidder? I was at Aerodrome 92. Some of the aircraft were quite >nice others were simply "quite." > Unfortunately, the only information I have is negative. I offered to volunteer down there once and was told that the Aerodrome events were the only place they used volunteers. As a result, I had no personal contact. According to the local news media, the museum was a personal project of Frank Ryder and he had made no trust provision in his will. Since his survivors didn't share his passion for old airplanes, they elected to cease operations and disperse the collection. The place closed months ago, and the Eindecker on the roof that marked the spot has been taken down. I believe that some of the displays were on loan and have been returned to owners. Ryder's own planes are or were for sale. There are probably still some planes locked in the hangars, since WWI airplanes aren't every rich man's cup of Avgas. US$100,000 will probably buy a nice 1:1 flying scale model, for which I would expect a small finder's fee. Eli ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:16:13 -0300 From: "Tomas E. Tirado K" To: wwi Subject: Easter egg spad Message-ID: <199604032119.NAA18535@adinet.com.uy> A few months ago, I left unfinished a Spad 13C1 USAAS, decaled with the very colorful Blue Rider sheet BR222. They said it was a Spad 13C1, 94th Aerosquadron, United States Air Service, 1919. The question is: Anybody knows if this machine had the national insignia on the upper wing and in any other place? The source for this decal sheet was "Pierwsze samoloty mysliwskie lotnictwa polskiego, Tomasz Goworek, Warsaw, 1991. Unfortunatly I don't have acces to this source and I am in doubt about the national insignia. Please help me to finish this little bird. thanks a lot. Tom -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Tomas E. Tirado K - Eng.,45,5 childs, 1/700 Ship modeler, 1/72 WWI, tomasetk@adinet.com.uy WWII Luftwaffe, USNavy WWII to present IPMS-Uruguay active member TT-hobbies owner (only one year in business, but growing everyday) Phone/Fax Nr.(598) 38 58403 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Tomas E. Tirado K - Eng.,45,5 childs, 1/700 Ship modeler, 1/72 WWI, tomasetk@adinet.com.uy WWII Luftwaffe, USNavy WWII to present IPMS-Uruguay active member TT-hobbies owner (only one year in business, but growing everyday) Phone/Fax Nr.(598) 38 58403 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 17:30:30 GMT From: John Napper To: wwi Subject: Re: Easter egg spad Message-ID: <828549045.5799.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> >A few months ago, I left unfinished a Spad 13C1 USAAS, decaled with the very >colorful Blue Rider sheet BR222. They said it was a Spad 13C1, 94th >Aerosquadron, United States Air Service, 1919. > >The question is: > >Anybody knows if this machine had the national insignia on the upper wing >and in any other place? > >The source for this decal sheet was "Pierwsze samoloty mysliwskie lotnictwa >polskiego, Tomasz Goworek, Warsaw, 1991. Unfortunatly I don't have acces to this source and I am in doubt about the national insignia. Tomas Goworeks book includes full colour paintings that DO NOT show any national insignia. You would be safe to complete the model as shown on the decal sheet instructions. Regards Richard Humberstone Blue Rider ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:05:49 -0500 From: Mathoo@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: To our Texan friends Message-ID: <960403120547_368320156@emout06.mail.aol.com> Ahhem! Being born and bred in the Great Nation of TEXAS... I resemble that remark! Matthew Burchette Secretary of THE State ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:44:22 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604031644.AA26971@ednet1.orednet.org> Matt typed: > >Wow. That's - in a way - too bad. I can understand the frustration >with us static guys, but I hope we didn't put them off too bad. >Maybe it was the scale flak. ;-) However, good luck to them, and >all their endeavors. I do have a couple of the flying-scale folks >in my database, maybe I need to purge them - once I find out who is >and isn't on the list. > If you'll send the message 'review wwi' to the listserver at listproc@pease1.sr.unh.edu, it will return a list of all current subscribers. Cheers -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:58:45 -0300 From: "Tomas E. Tirado K" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604032302.PAA19667@adinet.com.uy> At 11:51 PM 4/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >Montevideo, Uraguy? Do you have pieces of theGraf Spee to sell on the net? > Well, really is URUGUAY, but I know spanish, and in this case, Guarani (native word) is always difficult... If you need some Spee pieces and yo will pay the prices... let me know and I'll do my job... Two years ago, I went to an auction of about 200 on board original photos, really very impressive, also they had a lot of little things like caps, swords, uniform parts, etc. And always, we have in the harbour entrance one of the Spee anchors, so ... regards Tom -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Tomas E. Tirado K - Eng.,45,5 childs, 1/700 Ship modeler, 1/72 WWI, tomasetk@adinet.com.uy WWII Luftwaffe, USNavy WWII to present IPMS-Uruguay active member TT-hobbies owner (only one year in business, but growing everyday) Phone/Fax Nr.(598) 38 58403 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:05:33 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Where are we? Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Ray Boorman wrote: > > White Rock is 1 mile from the US Canadian Border and is 100 miles from > Seattle (Yes I did go to the show), 30 Miles from Vancouver BC (Where I Dang, sorry we missed you. I hadn't realized you'd be there.... :^( Going to the Boeing Museum show? Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I have not yet, Sir, had the pleasure of your introduction-- and I suspect that I shall not have, still, after we have met...." A.T.Magnuson, M.P. .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 14:12:09 EST From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ryder collection Message-ID: <199604031912.PAA11802@conted.swann.gatech.edu> The latest I have heard comes from a friend who went to the museum a couple of weeks ago. It is still open, the collection seems to be intact, but all items--such as prints and other memorabilia--are numbered, making future disposal easier. It would seem that a massive sale could be in the offing but has yet to take place. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:20:06 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604031920.LAA17170@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> First, Middle Initital, Last Name Tom Eisenhour City Austin State, or Province Texas Country USA E-mail address t_eisen@ix.netcom.com I build 1/48 and larger WWI static kits. (I used to build in 1/72 until I hit 40!) Right now I'm (slowly) working on the Revell 1/28 Sopwith Camel. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:25:21 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <9604031922.AA21359@deimos.tx.iex.com> >Wow. That's - in a way - too bad. I can understand the frustration >with us static guys, but I hope we didn't put them off too bad. It isn't anything personal as far I have been able to determine. Certainly the knowledge about markings and colors etc has been more than useful. For the flying folks there just wasn't a lot of info concerning the design and building of WWI models. That and we felt somewhat reluctant to bring a lot of discussion about flying models to what is, essentially, a staic modelers list. This list does generate, at times, quite a lot of traffic. Take the current thread as a representative example. This can be a bit much to wade through when the actual useable data may be fairly small. Kit reviews do these folks very little good, but are very valuable to you. >Maybe it was the scale flak. ;-) However, good luck to them, and >all their endeavors. I do have a couple of the flying-scale folks >in my database, maybe I need to purge them - once I find out who is >and isn't on the list. Nah not the SCALE FLAK :-) What SCALE FLAK :-0 Everyone knows that to be a REAL MODELER you have to work in 1/6 or larger and risk it in flight ;-) Nothing quite like putting something worth over $1K that you have labored a 1000 hours on in the air at the mercy of things sometimes beyond your control! The old saying that the full scale folks use about takeoffs and landings applies very nicely to R/C models! Don't necessarily take them off your database unless it is for static modeling only. Some of them are still lurking here (like me). Others will probably continue to use Allen's wonderful web site as a resource. Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 85 ********************