WWI Digest 68 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Eduard's Hannover ClIII by David.Placci@hec.unil.ch (assistant prof. Lara) 2) Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks (warning, humor reply) by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks by "Matt Bittner" 4) Re: Lozenge-- now that I have it, how to apply by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: O-100 by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: st-st-static kits for games by "Matt Bittner" 7) 1/48th (!) question by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: Eduard's Hannover ClIII by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Insignia Issue 2 by Richard Humberstone 10) Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks by bciciora@pitneysoft.com (Bill Ciciora) 11) Re: Seattle Move; Seattle service providers by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 12) Hello! New in the list by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Tom=E1s_E._Tirado_K=22?=" 13) Re: Squadron ScaleFest '96 by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 14) Re: Seattle Move ---LONG! by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 15) Re: Insignia Issue 2 by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Tom=E1s_E._Tirado_K=22?=" 16) End of a legend by DYCAMURAT@UCDAVIS.EDU (Alan Albright) (by way of "Joseph R. Boeke" ) 17) In memoriam... by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 18) Say this today..... by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 19) Re: 1/48th (!) question by Hughto@aol.com 20) Re: 1/48th (!) question by tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) 21) Fokker turquoise by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:52:20 +0100 From: David.Placci@hec.unil.ch (assistant prof. Lara) To: wwi Subject: Eduard's Hannover ClIII Message-ID: <199603181244.HAA07255@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Just finished assembling the upper wing last night(and what a nightmare it was!). I knew I should have done a better test-fitting first, but, well, you know... Anyway, I found out that on my kit, the pre-drilled holes on the right side of fuselage were slightly wrong, thus resulting in a misaligned upper wing. They had to be drilled nearly 1 mm forward. Of course, I realized it too late, when the masts were already glued in place and all the paintjob and decaling done. Thus I 'm know the proud owner of a totally-unable-to fly- firecracker worth- dog of an Hannover. But after going through all the pain of the fuselage paint job, I think I'm going to keep it that way. This might sound totally stupid (actually, it is), but I had the feel I should warn other less-experienced modellers (like myself), especially when the kit is not very cheap. And don't make the same mistake: don't build a VERY good fitting kit (such as Dragon Fokker EVIII) before tackling an Eduard kit. I did and , well, SURPRISE! Hope this is useful to somebody. If not, well, never mind. David. (going to test fit EVERYTHING in the next Eduard kit I buy, even the box lid adjustement) PS: By the way, do the Eduard kits all have the same fit problems? I'd like to hear about your comments.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:36:06 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks (warning, humor reply) Message-ID: <199603180736.HAA12154@cso.com> On 16 Mar 96 at 19:40, Ray Boorman typed diligantly: > I just picked up the Eduard Albatros DV/DVa so here is what I think of it so > far. I have not built the model > so this is more an oppinion of the parts. > > Scale 1/48 (No Matt not 1/72) Well, we *all* can't be perfect! > 1/72 The scale of Matt, 1/48 the scale I my eyes and hands can still cope > with. (Ironic Humour). If I may be so bold, can we change 1/72nd to the Scale of Steve? He does such a much better job than myself, that I think he's more deserving of the title. Sure, my primary scale is 1/72nd (I do *occasionally* build 1/48th), but for Steve, there is *no* other scale. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:36:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks Message-ID: <199603180736.HAA12166@cso.com> On 17 Mar 96 at 22:58, Robert Woodbury typed diligantly: > Anyone know of the availability of the Windsock Datafile on the D.V? This was just re-released, so you should be able to still get ahold of it. I'm almost positive Rosemont still has a few in. However, call first for availabilty. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:36:06 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Lozenge-- now that I have it, how to apply Message-ID: <199603180736.HAA12150@cso.com> On 16 Mar 96 at 14:53, DavidL1217@aol.com typed diligantly: > I have used A/G decals since 1990. > On the lozenge, you first need to hit the plastic with a shot of clear coat > to give it some thing to bond to. Then you need to apply per the original > On the EV, you have it easy in that you do not have to cover the wings. If > you did, I would recommend bottom first, chord wise, add solvent and sand off > at the edges (rather lightly) with a flexi-file. Then goes on the top with > the rib tapes and finally the insignias.. Finally, a coat of semi gloss. The only thing I would add - especially for those just getting into WW1 and lozenge - is to check your sources, and *not* forget the tape on the leading edge of the wing. This was usually done in the upper color, but again, check your references. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:36:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: O-100 Message-ID: <199603180736.HAA12162@cso.com> On 17 Mar 96 at 18:25, KENNETH L HAGERUP typed diligantly: > I recently bought an Airfix O-400 which I'd like to convert to an O-100. > Besides the available conversion kit is there anything else I'm likely to > need? Are there any good references available? Ken, Ken, Ken. Should have emailed me first. However, since you sent it through the list, I'll reply through the list. Your best reference for any Handley Page O-x00 is Bowyer's book on the type (yes, I do have it; yes, you may borrow that, as well). The Rosmeont kit is pretty all inclusive. The most noticable difference is in the engines/nacelles, and Rosemont provides those. You might have to provide the exhaust nubs, but I can't remember if that's true. HTH, and talk to you soon! ;-) Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:36:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: st-st-static kits for games Message-ID: <199603180736.HAA12157@cso.com> On 17 Mar 96 at 13:31, Ray Boorman typed diligantly: > I seem to remember that Revel have the Fokker DR1 and DVII at > around those prices. These two are not too bad either and can be got > at most model shops. Airfix Revel and I believe ESCI do an Albatross > DVa but I know the Airfix one has problems. The other two I have > not seen for a long time so they might be out of production. > Roland's and Hanovers I believe Airfix have a model of each A > Roland CII I'm not sure about the Hanover. Both of these are in > the general price range and available. Fokker E.III well Revel did > make one but If you find it I would keep it as its out of > production now. Anyway thats about all of the ones I can think of > that are reasonable. Airfix does the D.V(a), and Revell/ESCI does the D.III. Neither are even close to perfect, but they should be good enough for gaming. I do believe Revell's Dr.I and D.VII are still in their catalog. However, there should be *lots* of Airfix Dr.I's left, so if you're really not concerned about accuracy, go with these. ;-) Airfix does the Roland C.II, and Revell did the Fokker E.III. The Roland should still be out there, and finding the E.III - although not in the catalog - shouldn't be too difficult. If you want Fokker D.VIII/E.V's, then there should be plenty of Merlin and Beechnut D.VIII's out there to be had cheap. Heck, I've got a Beechnut I would be willing to send you for shipping, if interested. Some of the other Germans, though, would be quite expensive to model. For example, the SSW D.III/D.IV would have to be Pegasus or Czech Master resin. The Roland D.II would be Pegasus. Etc., etc., etc. If you're interested in a specific type, email me and I can tell you who makes it, and maybe how much. Good luck! Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:44:48 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: 1/48th (!) question Message-ID: <199603180744.HAA12287@cso.com> Remembering the DML Dr.I I built, I was wondering: They didn't supply a compass decal for the cockpit compass. What are some good sources for 1/48th instrument decals, specifically WW1? For that matter, what do people use for 1/72nd? I think PP Aeroparts put out 1/72nd instrument dial decals, but I'm not certain. TIA! Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:44:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard's Hannover ClIII Message-ID: <199603180744.HAA12292@cso.com> On 18 Mar 96 at 7:45, assistant prof. Lara typed diligantly: > Thus I 'm know the proud owner of a totally-unable-to fly- firecracker > worth- dog of an Hannover. But after going through all the pain of the > fuselage paint job, I think I'm going to keep it that way. > This might sound totally stupid (actually, it is), but I had the feel I > should warn other less-experienced modellers (like myself), especially when > the kit is not very cheap. And don't make the same mistake: don't build a > VERY good fitting kit (such as Dragon Fokker EVIII) before tackling an > Eduard kit. I did and , well, SURPRISE! If you are a beginner, definitely cut your teeth on DML before tackling Eduard. Yes, for the most part they're great kits, but definitely more for the "war weary", then the "recruit". Aside from the new Albatros D.V, and the 1/72nd (!) D.VIII, Eduard kits are not as "easy" as the DML releases. Sure, for the most part they're "complete", but at a cost, which is usually build up time. Okay, Eduard, here's my plea. Not only do we (well, most of "we" ;-)) want more 1/72nd (where's the supposed MPM venture into WW1?), but we want more non-German stuff. It's great that the D.V(a), and soon D.III is out, but what about the (surprise) Nieuports? The only 1/48th venture of the Nie 17 is the old Hawk/Testors kit, which is lacking in a few places. And please, come down in price. It's hard to build a squadron when they're so expensive. ;-) Anyway, sorry for that last ramble. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. But I have never been able to make out the numbers." - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 13:52:33 GMT From: Richard Humberstone To: wwi Subject: Re: Insignia Issue 2 Message-ID: <827157151.26082.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> In response to Matt, the decals for Insignia No. 2 are for a captured Mil Mi-8 in hastily applied Slovene markings (from 1991). Not by any stretch of the imagination a WWI subject - Sorry!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:14:11 EST From: bciciora@pitneysoft.com (Bill Ciciora) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard DV DVa First Looks Message-ID: My apologies to the membership for accidentally pasting Ray's message in its entirety to the end of my apostrophe-s manifesto. I was cutting and pasting and forgot to delete the original. Certainly a much worse offense than misspelling plurals. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:05:11 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Seattle Move; Seattle service providers Message-ID: <9602188271.AA827165249@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> One interesting point I have noted is that everyone posting from the Seattle area seemingly uses America Online as their provider. Are their any small, local servers available in the Seattle area, the ones that charge $20.00 a month for unlimited internet access? Does Microsoft or some other megacorp have some sort of corporate stranglehold on provider services? I use halcyon ... the company is in Bellevue and is called Northwest Nexus. The number there is 455-1305. I paid $30 for initiation then $90/ quarter (or $30 a month flat fee). I downloaded the software necessary to use Netscape, Fetch, etc. I guess its called a PPP account. The tech support is excellent. I had tried Eskimo North before this for a short trial period but wasn't happy as I got lots of busy signals. I think that halcyon/Northwest Nexus is big enough that you don't get this problem. Eskimo was a bit cheaper; the set up was higher, but the monthly flat fee was $20. I'm not sure as I just tried it out. Both of these companies have web sites by the way. ---Stephen Tontoni tontoni@halcyon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:13:27 -0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Tom=E1s_E._Tirado_K=22?=" To: wwi Subject: Hello! New in the list Message-ID: <199603182118.NAA11912@adinet.com.uy> New in the list, from Montevideo Uruguay, I hope we'll enjoy this relationship in the virtual space.... Any interest in Uruguayan militar and civil aircraft, history or anything, please contact to me, and trough this way to IPMS-Urugay, we meet every= thursday trying to make better models... Also I own a small hobby house,TT-hobbies, one year in business, but trying to grow and survive with good humour sense. If anybody knows other modeling interest list, Ships, WWII, General, please send me some information, here is not easy to get all we need and list like this are very useful and also a great way mo meet modelers too, I hope... Contact, I am here Tom -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+ Tom=E1s E. Tirado K - Eng.,45, married, 5 childs, Ship modeler,=20 tomasetk@adinet.com.uy WWI special interest, also general modeling IPMS-Uruguay member, TT-hobbies owner (only one year in business, but growing everyday)=20 here we are for anything you need... =20 "En los ojos del joven arde la llama, en los ojos del viejo brilla la luz." Victor Hugo (take some spanish too.. ) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:24:30 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Squadron ScaleFest '96 Message-ID: <9603181623.AA19783@deimos.tx.iex.com> > If anyone is going to be in the Dallas area in early May (4 & 5), don't Me. I live here! > If anyone is going, let me know, I would like to meet you and say hi. It >will be nice to be able to put a face with the name. Though I am not a static modeler per se I think I might attend on one of the days (depends on which one is the better flying day!). > If you need additional info or registration paperwork, E-Mail me your >name and address. I will give it to the contest chairman at IPMS NCT and >they will mail you a packet. Pop me a emial and give me the time and location. Should be all I need. Plus tell me where the Squadron Open House will be. Thanks, Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:33:42 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Seattle Move ---LONG! Message-ID: <9602188271.AA827166843@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> rapidly esclating taxation rate. The reason for this posting is an information request. I was wondering if you could give me some insights about the Seattle area. We would like to move near the water, as we will soon be purchasing a boat for our domicile. Basically we (my wife and I) are in the small, one bedroom apartment class for this venture. What I would like to know is any information you would be willing to provide about the state of the economy, taxes, general job availability, housing cost and your general attitude about the area as related from your experiences. I have researched the area through the 'Times' and the 'Places Rated Almanac' and Pardon the use of the listserv to post this message; the original poster did not put his e-mail address on here and my system doesn't say who its from. Oh well. If you can put up with 6 months of darkness in Alaska, you will have no problem with the 9 months of drizzle in Seattle. I have noticed that if we don't get that rain it gets smoggy here. Ain't that pink sky pretty.. hack hack. While rents aren't as bad here as when I lived in Boston, its catching up. The real estate market here is nuts. Read the Seattle Times or Seattle Post-Intelligencer (you have an out of town news newstand?) to get an idea what its like. Tax structure; no state personal income tax. Sales tax was 8.3% in Seattle. It just went up to pay for our new stadium!! Call it 8.5% for the sake of argument. We also have scratch tickets to pay for the stadium; they are actually concerned right now that they are selling the tickets too quickly and won't have them for the baseball season. The stadium is a hot issue here that I won't go into. Economy... I don't know. With the govt doing what it does and all that who knows? Boeing did a bunch of layoffs last year; as Boeing goes so goes Seattle. Microsoft is going like gangbusters. Technically it isn't in Seattle; its in Redmond. Other than that... I don't know. General attitude. Mine? I wouldn't live anywhere else. It is my job as a Seattleite to paint as bleak a picture as possible to discourage people from coming here. I lived here from 1978-1986 then moved to Boston. All the time that I was in Boston I bought Seattle papers and rooted for the Seahawks. I flew here for the folklife festival in 1987; we have lot of festivals here. In 1988 I moved back. It was coming home for me. Hope that this helps... these are my opinions for the most part. Not facts; you can get those anywhere. ---Stephen Tontoni tontoni@halcyon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:15:38 -0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Tom=E1s_E._Tirado_K=22?=" To: wwi Subject: Re: Insignia Issue 2 Message-ID: <199603182221.OAA12638@adinet.com.uy> At 08:55 AM 3/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >In response to Matt, the decals for Insignia No. 2 are for a captured Mil Mi-8 >in hastily applied Slovene markings (from 1991). Not by any stretch of the >imagination a WWI subject - Sorry! Please tell me how I can get a copy of Insignia? and how I can suscribe in the future tks/TOM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:27:51 -0500 From: DYCAMURAT@UCDAVIS.EDU (Alan Albright) (by way of "Joseph R. Boeke" ) To: " List, WWI Modelers" Subject: End of a legend Message-ID: <9603181824.AA24222@coral.bucknell.edu> This in the French news: *** Le constructeur aeronautique neerlandais FOKKER mis en fail- lite. Apres le desistement d' eventuels repreneurs, plus de 5 600 salaries se retrouvent donc au chomage... (...) Le constructeur aeronautique neerlandais Fokker se declare en faillite. Mis en cessation de paiement le 23 janvier dernier, Fokker avait beneficie d'un credit relais du gouvernement neer- landais. Les repreneurs eventuels avaient jusqu'a aujourd'hui pour faire connaitre leur offre. Apres le desistement du Chinois AVIC, aucun accord de reprise n'a pu etre conclu avec le Coreen SAMSUNG. Les unites de production ont ete mises en faillite. Plus de 5 600 salaries recevront demain leur lettre de licenciement. English: The Dutch aeronautical manufacturer FOKKER put in bankrupcy. After the pull-out of possible takers, more than 5,600 employees thus find themselves out of work... (...) The Dutch aeronautical manufacturer FOKKER declares bankrupcy. No longer able to reimburse its debts after January 23d last, Fokker had benefited from a credit extended by the Dutch government. Companies offering to take over had until today to make known their terms. After the pull-out of the Chinese AVIC, no take-over agreement was able to be concluded with the Korean SAMSUNG. Production units were thus put in bankrupcy. More than 5,600 employees will receive their pink slips tomorrow. @ Alan ALBRIGHT dycamurat@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:49:21 -0600 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: In memoriam... Message-ID: <199603181849.MAA20822@sh1.ro.com> Fokker Aircraft has apparently shut down for good as of last Friday. They were not the only firm to trace their origins to pre WWI but their pedigree was still most distinguished. Both British Aerospace and Aerospatiale contain the remains of WWI builders in their corporate vaults, but I believe Fokker was the oldest manufacturer to have retained independent control. Shorts still operates under its old name, but is a wholly owned subsidiary of the canadian firm, Bombardier. Not much to do with WWI modelling as such, but a not a happy moment for historians of the period (or for Fokker's current employees and customers). Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:37:29 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Say this today..... Message-ID: <9603182136.AA26340@deimos.tx.iex.com> >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:26:23 -0800 >From: DYCAMURAT@UCDAVIS.EDU (Alan Albright) >To: wwi-l@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu >Subject: End of a legend >Message-ID: > >This in the French news: > >*** Le constructeur aeronautique neerlandais FOKKER mis en fail- >lite. Apres le desistement d' eventuels repreneurs, plus de 5 600 >salaries se retrouvent donc au chomage... >(...) >Le constructeur aeronautique neerlandais Fokker se declare en >faillite. Mis en cessation de paiement le 23 janvier dernier, >Fokker avait beneficie d'un credit relais du gouvernement neer- >landais. Les repreneurs eventuels avaient jusqu'a aujourd'hui >pour faire connaitre leur offre. Apres le desistement du Chinois >AVIC, aucun accord de reprise n'a pu etre conclu avec le Coreen >SAMSUNG. Les unites de production ont ete mises en faillite. Plus >de 5 600 salaries recevront demain leur lettre de licenciement. > >English: > >The Dutch aeronautical manufacturer FOKKER put in bankrupcy. After the >pull-out of possible takers, more than 5,600 employees thus find themselves >out of work... >(...) >The Dutch aeronautical manufacturer FOKKER declares bankrupcy. No longer >able to reimburse its debts after January 23d last, Fokker had benefited >from a credit extended by the Dutch government. Companies offering to take >over had until today to make known their terms. After the pull-out of the >Chinese AVIC, no take-over agreement was able to be concluded with the >Korean SAMSUNG. Production units were thus put in bankrupcy. More than >5,600 employees will receive their pink slips tomorrow. > >@ > >Alan ALBRIGHT >dycamurat@ucdavis.edu > > Sad. Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:30:50 -0500 From: Hughto@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48th (!) question Message-ID: <960318193049_249253459@mail02.mail.aol.com> Matt asks: >What are some good sources for 1/48th instrument decals, specifically WW1? Some of Bill Koster's (Koster Aero Enterprises) decal sheets include instrument decals. The one I'm thinking of is for the Fokker D VIII (KAE 7). It even includes a compass face. As I recall, you can buy the bits and pieces, including the decals, from any of the Koster kits for a reasonable price. KAE 11 (from the SS DIII) is nice too -- while perhaps slightly large, the Axial logos are finely detailed. Hope this helps. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:49:54 -0800 From: tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48th (!) question Message-ID: <199603190249.SAA17390@ix11.ix.netcom.com> Matt; You wrote: > >Remembering the DML Dr.I I built, I was wondering: They didn't >supply a compass decal for the cockpit compass. What are some good >sources for 1/48th instrument decals, specifically WW1? For that >matter, what do people use for 1/72nd? I think PP Aeroparts put out >1/72nd instrument dial decals, but I'm not certain. TIA! I've built 1 and a half of these things, and I've yet to find a compass decal on my sheet. I hand paint my compass face with a 0000 sable brush, under a 10X stereo microscope. Cover it with a drop of clear acrylic medium, and it looks quite realistic. later, Anthony IPMS 33799 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:50:16 EST From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Fokker turquoise Message-ID: <096.03865670.NPWE28A@prodigy.com> Anyone have a good color match for the undersides of Fokker triplanes? Thanks, Ken ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 68 ********************