WWI Digest 60 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) FYI...Sopwith Tripe?....See ya! by tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) 2) Re: SUBSCRIBE by Robert Woodbury 3) Re: Re[2]: Eduard EIII - Crap? by vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) 4) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) 5) Re: Squadron's latest... by Robert Woodbury 6) Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum by Robert Woodbury 7) Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Re: Eduard Albatros DV by DavidL1217@aol.com 9) Re: SUBSCRIBE by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux by DavidL1217@aol.com 11) WWI Fly-in at Dayton by bciciora@wwa.com 12) Re: Eduard Albatros DV by Jose Valenciano 13) Re: New kits by DavidL1217@aol.com 14) Re: Attention: All Eduard Fokker E.III constructors by Jose Valenciano 15) Re: Eduard Albatros DV by DavidL1217@aol.com 16) Re: Eduard Fok. D.VI by Jose Valenciano 17) Re: Eduard Albatros DV by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) Re: Eduard Albatros DV by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:32:44 -0800 From: tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) To: wwi Subject: FYI...Sopwith Tripe?....See ya! Message-ID: <199603102132.NAA21662@ix8.ix.netcom.com> Hi ww1 gang; I've been kinda' quiet for a while, been checkin' my mail regularly, just haven't had much to say. I'am building a 1/35 scale AH-1W Cobra vertical lift flying machine, so The Great War has been on the back burner for a while. However, it will come back to the forefront very soon, as SWMBO and I are going to Australia for 5 weeks. In fact we'll be at The Australian War Memorial on April 20-21st!! Those dates ring any bells for anyone?? I can't wait. I will also be removing my name from the list during that time....I don't even want to imagine what my mailbox would look like if I didn't! Anyone have any suggestions as to what else we shouldn't miss while in Australia please feel free to suggest. We'll Be traveling all over the country except for the NW coast up above Perth. Any reliable info. on the Eduard Sopwith Triplane? I hope it's out by the time we return in late May. Later, Anthony Sanchez IPMS 33799 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:46:34 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE Message-ID: <31442EBA.237B@per.dwr.csiro.au> > On 6 Mar 96 at 13:53, Erik Pilawskii typed diligantly: > > > Melvin E. Fedwick of Perth, Australia. Was out hunting grouse on Stuff cut Hey, are you poking fun at the wonderful city in which I live??? And anyway, who the hell is Erik Pilawskii?? Rob (of Perth, *Western* Australia) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:45:50 +1000 (EST) From: vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: Eduard EIII - Crap? Message-ID: <199603110045.KAA29779@world.net> Looking closer I must agree. The rudder pedals shold be in line with the first of the double tubes. ahh, if I had my time over again I would take the 30 seconds or so to move the rudder pedals forward 5mm! Without sounding too defensive I find small modidifications like this fun and all part of modelling! In my mind it does not constitute a kit being crap. Vincent. > I looked more closely at the photos of the skinned EIII last night and > find the rudder pedals are in-fact in the curved part of the fuselage, > right behind the fire wall. The Eduard cockpit, being square won't > work. Their cockpit consists of two 'bays'. The rear one having the > seat and control stick, the other the suspension and rudder pedals. > The real plane has three bays. The rearmost with the seat, the middle > one with the control stick. The rear edge of the foremost has double > tubing and is where the suspension and the wing are attached. This > bay makes up the curved part of the fuselage, and contains the rudder > pedals. If you have either Eindecker book, it is fairly clear. > > > I just think that if they go to all the trouble of building a pricey > kit with photoetch and white-metal, they could be a bit more accruate. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:45:44 +1000 (EST) From: vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603110045.KAA29759@world.net> Steve asked: Got both in Australia two weeks ago, they were late! the mini datafiles arrived first....maybe print production issues?! > Does anyone out there in cyberland know what happened to Windsock > Volume 12/No.1? This is about four weeks overdue now. Has anyone seen > the equally overdue Datafile on the H.B. W.29? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:06:53 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: Squadron's latest... Message-ID: <3144337D.4A8@per.dwr.csiro.au> Joseph R. Boeke wrote: > > > Tom's Model Works > > Nieuport 9/10 $32.95 (1/48) > Halberstadt CL.IV $29.99 " > Stuff Cut Hi All, Anyone know what the quality of these kits is like? Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:19:16 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum Message-ID: <31443664.6B48@per.dwr.csiro.au> Mick, Thanks for the details, thers a fair chance that I'll be treking all over Germany, as well as Austria, Switzerland and Hungary at the very least. Does anyone have any deatils of Aviation sights in Hungary? Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:51:34 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum Message-ID: <199603110251.AA13970@ednet1.orednet.org> > >Mick, > >Thanks for the details, thers a fair chance that I'll be treking all over >Germany, as well as Austria, Switzerland and Hungary at the very least. >Does anyone have any deatils of Aviation sights in Hungary? > >From reference books only, not from personal knowledge, it seems to be 'slim pickin's' in Hungary. The Kozlekedsal Musuem in Budapest has a few aircraft, the most interesting of which is a Fokker F.13. That seems to be it. Perhaps the situation has improved since my books were published but Hungary seems to be something of an aviation desert. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - Interesting factoid: Every poem by Emily Dickinson can be sung to the tune of either "The Yellow Rose of Texas" or "Gilligan's Island." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:46:07 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros DV Message-ID: <960310224606_347447566@emout06.mail.aol.com> Aeromaster has some nice Albatros sets. When I get my hands on the Eduard DV, I plan to do Waldhausen's Ja. 27 machine. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:52:25 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE Message-ID: <960310225223_347453427@mail04.mail.aol.com> My typing was not too diligient. the HB model I was trying to remeber is the HB20, the prototype built for sub use. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:56:01 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux Message-ID: <960310225557_347456081@emout08.mail.aol.com> How many members do you have ('OTF') in Georgia. I tried unsuccessfully to get one going in St. Louis. However, there are only 8 of us here. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:55 CST From: bciciora@wwa.com To: wwi Subject: WWI Fly-in at Dayton Message-ID: At my Cross & Cockade meeting yesterday, I picked up a copy of "The Great Times", which is the newsletter of The Great War Aeroplanes Association. This is the group that formed after Frank Ryder's untimely demise. Anyway, they are planning five fly-ins this year. The biggest will be at the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio, on July 20 and 21. This will coincide with the Dayton International Air Show. The attractions listed on the poster include: Full Scale flying aircraft (now *that's* huge, Matt), balloon busting, flour bombing, formation flying, grand finale squadron melee, and radio control WWI aircraft. I know we have some RC builders on this list. I hope to meet some of you out there. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:15:23 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros DV Message-ID: Hi all! On Sun, 10 Mar 1996 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > Aeromaster has some nice Albatros sets. When I get my hands on the Eduard > DV, I plan to do Waldhausen's Ja. 27 machine. Was Hans Waldhausen a kanone? How many victories? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:07:10 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New kits Message-ID: <960310230710_347466959@emout05.mail.aol.com> There are roughly 6-8 "survivors" of the Berlin Air Museum being restored in Krakow. These were moved to the eastern part of the Reich as Berlin was being bombed. HOw or why these survived and the other dozen or so WWI examples did not is a mystery. We may have more discoveries, although most experts fear not. There wereno OEF 253s in the Berlin collection (per WWI Aero). However, the Polish airforce flew these after the war and against the Soviets. Part of Poland was carved out or liberated from (I try to please boths Poles and Austrians) the Austro Hungarian Empire. Perhaps this is a relic of the those exciting days of yesteryear.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:24:42 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Attention: All Eduard Fokker E.III constructors Message-ID: Hi Mick, Joey here.... On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Mick Fauchon wrote: > > consider it too flat. If you do, don't use plastic rod as these > > structures weren't made of tube but of wood. Plastic strip would be better. > > Sorry, but the internal structure of the EIII *was* tube steel. Yes, I overlooked this and have been corrected many times over (|*0) Sorry if I misled any one. > > Oh, I just remebered, as you make the model be very sure that the prop > > will be able to twirl when the model is finished. All truly well crafted > > models must have a kinetic component to justify their existence. I'm sure > > all our cultists agree on this? > > Absolutely! It also stops idiots cranking the entire aircraft > over when they *have* to spin the prop 80) Really, I've had less models damaged because of it. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:24:11 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros DV Message-ID: <960310232409_347482537@mail02.mail.aol.com> Sir, you have dropped the gauntlet. I had to pull out my copy of Over the Front Vol. 4 #4. Waldhausen was known as Der Adler von Lens (The eagle of Lens). He was in Ja 37 (not 27 oops) under Udet. Over 15 victories, he was a highly decorated pilot form the Duchie of Baden. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:32:31 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard Fok. D.VI Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Charles Hart wrote: > Joey Replied: > > >I'm sorry, I don't but would want to. What's wrong with the kit loz.? > >Is it the "should be 5 color instead of the supplied 4 color" problem again? > > > In this case the lozenge should be 4-color since its a Fokker built > machine. The photo in the FSM workbench review points up part of the > problem, all of the colors in the top fabric have a decidedly greenish cast > to them, this is not the way that actual specimens of the fabric I have > seen look. some of the lower colors, notably the yellow are too bright and > perhaps too pale. Thanks! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:22:20 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros DV Message-ID: <199603110422.AA24949@ednet1.orednet.org> Joey Valenciano wrote: >Hi all! > >On Sun, 10 Mar 1996 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > >> Aeromaster has some nice Albatros sets. When I get my hands on the Eduard >> DV, I plan to do Waldhausen's Ja. 27 machine. > >Was Hans Waldhausen a kanone? How many victories? > Six! Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - Interesting factoid: Every poem by Emily Dickinson can be sung to the tune of either "The Yellow Rose of Texas" or "Gilligan's Island." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:28:16 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros DV Message-ID: <199603110428.AA29685@ednet1.orednet.org> > >Sir, you have dropped the gauntlet. > >I had to pull out my copy of Over the Front Vol. 4 #4. Waldhausen was known >as Der Adler von Lens (The eagle of Lens). He was in Ja 37 (not 27 oops) >under Udet. Over 15 victories, he was a highly decorated pilot form the >Duchie of Baden. > Vell, ef dat ist vat der Over the Front ist sayink, I vill retract my figure vitch came from der alt Harleyford Air Aces listink. Oh vell. Neffer mind! Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - Interesting factoid: Every poem by Emily Dickinson can be sung to the tune of either "The Yellow Rose of Texas" or "Gilligan's Island." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 60 ********************