WWI Digest 58 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum by Mick Fauchon 2) Re: Eduard Albatros by Mick Fauchon 3) Re: Eduard EIII - Crap? by Mick Fauchon 4) Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux by SCLexicat@aol.com 5) Re: Veeday by amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) 6) Re: Engine turned cowlings by amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) 7) Re: Who's that? by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: Who's that? by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Who's that? by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux by "Matt Bittner" 11) Re: SUBSCRIBE by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: Disappointment by "Matt Bittner" 13) Video query by "Matt Bittner" 14) Has anyone heard from Edward Hawkins? by "Joseph R. Boeke" 15) Re: Who's that? by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 16) Re: Who's that? by vanmatre@nprdc.navy.mil (Nick Van Matre) 17) RE:How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux by "Carlos Valdes" 18) Re: Has anyone heard from Edward Hawkins? by "Randy J. Ray" 19) Re: hello out there by aew (Allan Wright) 20) Re: Video query by Jesse Thorn 21) Re: Who's that? by Charles Stephanian 22) Aurora 1/48 Bristol Brisfit by Jesse Thorn 23) Re: hello out there by The Flying Wrench 24) POSSIBLE rip-off alert. by SCLexicat@aol.com 25) Re: Video query by The Flying Wrench 26) Re: Aurora 1/48 Bristol Brisfit by The Flying Wrench 27) Merlin Kits-quality ?? by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 28) Re: Ragwings news by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 29) Re: New kits by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 30) Re: Engine turned cowlings by Mick Fauchon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 21:52:47 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Aircraft from Berlin Air Museum Message-ID: Rob, > Rob, If you get a chance visit the Auto und Technic museum in Sinsheim, All that Sinsheim has in WW1 is a replica Fokker EIII, but quite nice. In general the museum is well worth visiting, especially if you're staying only 15 minutes away by car 80) The Deutsches Museum in M"unchen is *definitely* worth a visit, but make it a couple of days. Also the Luftwaffe Museum at the Marseille-Kaserne in Appen, up near Quickborn, if you happen to get as far north as Hamburg [my old stamping-ground 80) 80). Let me know if you want directions. Cheers, [or rather "Tsch"u3 80)] Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 21:59:59 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard Albatros Message-ID: > > Oh, come on now- it's only been five weeks and it'll all be over > tomorrow. There is a god. Election correction 80): there *was* a god.....recently deposed 80) > > Rob. (I come from a land down under) > Likewise 80) Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:10:58 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard EIII - Crap? Message-ID: Jim, > If you line up the suspension on the cockpit floor with the correct > position on the outside of the plane, you'll have the pilot sitting > under the machine gun! They also leave out all the doors inside the > cockpit, one on each side and two on the floor. Most photos also > show the vertical tubing behind the pilot not vertical as the > photoetch show it. They forgot the control stick tube, the fact that > it shows under the fuselage, and left out all the detail that is > visible under the pilot on the bottom of the plane. Quite so. > One thing that I cannot find good photos of is the rudder pedal > assembly. It appears from the Windsock photos that the pilot would > put his feet over the suspension through some modified bracing. This > would put the rudder in the curved part of the fuselage. I can see > wires that would appear to be rudder controls coming out of that area. > Any one have some help here? That's theway I read it from the photos. It pivots on a typical Fokker vertical bar. Must have been a ppig of a thing to steer! > > I recently bought the Eduard 1/72 DVIII which looks *much* better. I > certainly hope it is better. Ah,, but the 1/48 offering is much, *much* better 80) 80) > > Disappointed in a high-tech kit, Likewise, but I've probably mentioned that before.....800 Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:41:20 -0500 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux Message-ID: <960308064118_240692303@mail04.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 08/03/96 09:00:26, you write: > This is a difficult thing to estimate but I offer some figures I have >gleaned from various places over time, these are estimates (except for C&C) >but are pretty close to the mark. At least everyone should get the idea of >the numbers involved. (Numbers snipped) How many addresses does this server currently serve, come to that? Simon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:08:38 -0500 From: amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) To: wwi Subject: Re: Veeday Message-ID: Charles and others have ID'd Vagn Espensen as the genius behinf Veeday. If so- then it must be the same Vagn who doeth Merlin.Hmmmmmmmmm- The strange thing is that I think the quality of the Veedays was superior to the Merlins- Later-Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:13:21 -0500 From: amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) To: wwi Subject: Re: Engine turned cowlings Message-ID: The honorable wizard fromm Oz- Dr. Fauchon has defined chat for us- now I know what the Brits mean when they talk about "chatting up a bird" > "Chats" in a trench warfare context, are lice; hence, "chatting" >is hunting and exterminating lice in clothing or on the body. Gerry. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:34:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: <199603080735.HAA27083@cso.com> On 8 Mar 96 at 0:24, Bill Shatzer typed diligantly: > There were some nasty stories about Veeday taking orders and money > for kits that were still 'vapor ware' and lots of unhappy folks > who sent in their bucks (or pounds or lira or francs) and recieved > nothing (hmmmmm, does this story sound familiar??) Worse, in an > attempt to keep the operation afloat, the owner apparently cut > some corners with the law and ended up in an English gaol. Okay, I'll bite - just exactly who does that remind you of? (HUGE :-), since I do know, and have gotten bitten) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:33:59 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: <199603080735.HAA27091@cso.com> On 8 Mar 96 at 0:14, Eli Geher typed diligantly: > My surviving brain cells seem to recall that VeeDay came to grief > with the British authorities when their plastics expertise was used > to provide credit cards that were too similar to Visa and > MasterCard. Chris Gannon was owed money for masters when VeeDay > failed and took an injection molding machine as settlement, thus > forming the basis for Pegasus. Or so the legend goes. Looking at some of the Merlin kits - especially the "double kits" - I get the impression that Merlin got a few of the molds. This is just my opinion, and not a based fact. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:34:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: <199603080735.HAA27086@cso.com> On 8 Mar 96 at 0:54, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > Whether Gannon acquired a molding machine or not out of this > mess is unknown to me. I have heard that he denies ever having > been involved with Espensen or VeeDay. Once V. Espensen was > released from jail, he endeavoured to start another modeling > company which came to be known as Merlin Models and the rest is > history, now being played out by our own Gerry McOsker. Merlin > kits are hard enough to find, anyone out there got a VeeDay HB W.29 > to sell. I'd kind of like to have one for its decals alone. Better yet, try to find the Meikraft W.29. The decals that come with it are very good - although they are the "blue" lozenge, as opposed to the "brown". If I remember correctly Rimmel really liked the decals. However, my memory is fading, since I'm talking about a Panzer 53......????? Matt :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:41:50 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux Message-ID: <199603080743.HAA27170@cso.com> On 8 Mar 96 at 3:51, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > The point of all this being, we are a small (perhaps very small) > market and we should count our blessings every day for the likes of > Pegasus, DML and Eduard, among others. Even with all my bickering about prices, I whole heartedly agree. When I got back into modeling, it just happend to coincide with my start of WW1 modeling. This was '88, and the pickings were even slim back then. Sure, it was easy to snatch up all the Airfix, ESCI and (whatever was released) Revell kits, but besides that the only injected that I could get locally was early Pegasus. Also, look at the quality of the current Pegasus offerings. He went from a "little" better Merlin quality, to what you see today. Definitely a change for the better! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:50:52 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE Message-ID: <199603080752.HAA27276@cso.com> On 7 Mar 96 at 14:13, DavidL1217@aol.com typed diligantly: > Actually, there were a couple of Merlin kits that were quite good, > based on Czech Master resins. These include the DH5, HB W-28, > Breguet 14, Junkers J4, Fokker EV, Halberstadt DII. Natually, you > need to thin out the wings, but otherwise they are great starting > points. Most of the rest are just plane (sic) bad. Based on my own collection - and from what I've heard - the E.V isn't that great. You're *much* better off getting the Eduard kit. I think Steve H. built the J.4, so maybe he has a better opinion on it. What's a HB W-28? I'm not familiar with that one. >From my collection, the best Merlin I have are the HB W-20 and the Fokker D.VI. I do have the Rumpler C.III/C.IV, Nieuport 11, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, Fokker D.VIII/E.V, Pfalz D.XII, Vickers FB5 and Albatros W.4. For the most part, you're better off finding other sources for these planes. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Ex-lovers make great speed bumps" - Bumper Sticker -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:14:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Disappointment Message-ID: <199603080815.IAA27598@cso.com> On 7 Mar 96 at 21:13, SCLexicat@aol.com typed diligantly: Half days are fun. You come back the next morning, and find you have lots of messages to reply to. Feeling inundated yet? ;-) > Guys, I have to sympathise with Bob here. I worked as a magazine > editor for a good few years (not about modelling, but the problems > are the same), and I understand what he's saying. You can't run > what you haven't got. The people on this list, apart from me as I > haven't yet complied with conditions A to E in the Holy List of > Redemption, are clearly way ahead on technical knowledge and > practical experience compared to the people writing most of the > kit reviews & general features on WW1 subjects in the UK and US > magazines. Given a fair wind many of you may even be able to > string the odd couple of words together :-) That's so great. "The Holy List of Redemption". Only a couple of people have found the mutual exclusion, and I have yet to hear of anybody budling a scale-correct Merlin OotB. Heh heh. So, we're *all* on the bottom, struggling to get up. ;-) Matt the replier to many ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:45:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Video query Message-ID: <199603080846.IAA27971@cso.com> While watching The Learning Channel (TLC) last night, they had on "CBS Eye on History". Last night's episodes covered Verdun and the Argonne. During the Verdun segment, they showed "video" of the Lafayette Escadrille. Anybody have any idea where I can get more of the Lafayette "video" stuff at? TIA! Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Ex-lovers make great speed bumps" - Bumper Sticker -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:07:00 -0500 From: "Joseph R. Boeke" To: " List, WWI Modelers" Subject: Has anyone heard from Edward Hawkins? Message-ID: <9603081504.AA25767@coral.bucknell.edu> Edward Hawkins, where are you? Sorry to bug the list with this, but apparently I "won" a couple of books in Edward Hawkins late sale/auction. I have tried to e-mail him repeatedly to find out where to send my check to, but I haven't gotten a response. I'm not really upset, because I haven't been ripped off (money-wise) but I would like to get those books. If anyone has heard from him, or received a package from him would you mind e-mailing me his snail mail address and/or phone number? Thanks, Joe +==================================+===================================+ | Joseph R. Boeke | | | Manager, Prospect Information | Towering genius disdains a beaten | | Bucknell University | path, it seeks regions hitherto | | (717) 524-3200 | unknown. | | (717) 524-3610 (fax) | -- Abraham Lincoln | | boeke@bucknell.edu | | +======================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:22:38 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: >On 8 Mar 96 at 0:14, Eli Geher typed diligantly: > >> My surviving brain cells seem to recall that VeeDay came to grief >> with the British authorities when their plastics expertise was used >> to provide credit cards that were too similar to Visa and >> MasterCard. Chris Gannon was owed money for masters when VeeDay >> failed and took an injection molding machine as settlement, thus >> forming the basis for Pegasus. Or so the legend goes. > which led Matt to write: >Looking at some of the Merlin kits - especially the "double kits" - I >get the impression that Merlin got a few of the molds. This is just >my opinion, and not a based fact. Well, that would be because the driving force behind Merlin is the same person, Vagn Espensen, that ran VeeDay. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:30:59 -0800 From: vanmatre@nprdc.navy.mil (Nick Van Matre) To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: <9603081531.AA00630@atlantic.nprdc.navy.mil> Sorry to mail the list, but I have not been able to UNSUBSCRIBE. I keep getting rejected being told that there is no host. I have tried several different addresses including: listproc, list-request, wwi-request, to no avail. There are just too many msgs for me and I need to get off the maillist. Thanks for the help, Nick vanmatre@nprdc.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 10:38:24 EST From: "Carlos Valdes" To: wwi Subject: RE:How many WW I modelers are there ?-redux Message-ID: <38306.carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu> Fellow enthusiasts, As a related topic, I would like to inform you that yesterday, March 7, at AAA Hobbies in Marietta, Georgia, the first meeting of the Georgia Chapter of the League of WWI Aviation Historians took place. Although the gathering was small, it was certainly enthusiastic, and we all look forward to the growth of this chapter. And yes, modeling was the principal interest of most of the participants. Now, who can tell us about the new Eduard Albatros? Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:53:48 -0700 From: "Randy J. Ray" To: wwi Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Edward Hawkins? Message-ID: > Edward Hawkins, where are you? > > If anyone has heard from him, or received a package from him would you mind > e-mailing me his snail mail address and/or phone number? I actually got the address to send my check to, sent it, and heard back that he was going to get the kits I wanted from his warehouse. But this has been over a month... Randy -- ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:42:45 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: hello out there Message-ID: <199603081742.MAA16656@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Is this list completely asleep today ? Yea, UNH's internet link was down for about 28 hours due to the snowstorm here in the Northeast. Should be all set now. -Al ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:14:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi Subject: Re: Video query Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Matt Bittner wrote: > While watching The Learning Channel (TLC) last night, they had on > "CBS Eye on History". Last night's episodes covered Verdun and the > Argonne. During the Verdun segment, they showed "video" of the > Lafayette Escadrille. Anybody have any idea where I can get more of > the Lafayette "video" stuff at? TIA! This may be the same series about WWI that is sold by PBS. I received their new home video catalog the other day and will verify. The entire series has been very interesting - a long time since I read any real history about WWI. The video content is fantastic. Did anyone notice the continuity break during the Lafayette Escadrille sequence? The Nieuport 17s (?) were revved up, taxied to takeoff position, throttled up, and then all of a sudden we were looking at something like a Nieuport 29 taking off. --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:15:51 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Stephanian To: wwi Subject: Re: Who's that? Message-ID: > > I wonder if anyone can tell me (yeah, right-- like someone 'round here > >*won't* know!) who the manufacturer "VeeDay" is? More than legend has it that Merlin is in fact VeeDay (Vagn Espensen) Charles Stephanian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:04:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi Subject: Aurora 1/48 Bristol Brisfit Message-ID: Is this kit even closely remote to being accurate in shape and outline? I have a copy of this thing and keep thinking about building it. Has anyone ever 'corrected' this kit and if so what did you do? --Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:10:33 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: hello out there Message-ID: <199603082010.LAA24803@anchor> At 12:42 PM 3/8/96 -0500, Allan Wright wrote: >> Is this list completely asleep today ? > >Yea, UNH's internet link was down for about 28 hours due to the snowstorm >here in the Northeast. Should be all set now. The Wrench says: ASLEEP? I think they all just woke up judging from the weight of the posts I received this morning (25 in all). Welcome back and thanks for all the answers to questions asked many moons ago. You probably need to shave that beard off that now hangs to your mid-chest region. Interestingly I found several post about 'chatting' that came up with the same answer as I did on the subject (pay attention Bill). Thanks to Martin Lawder for his 'cheap cardboard box' review of the now not so ** NEW ** Eduard D.V review. This review makes me anxious to hear from my hobby shop with the news: 'Hey! Your $35 cheap cardboard box is here and it even has a few pieces of plastic in it. And now we move to the other side of the planet: To Mick of down-under, those references are unfortunately now beyond my grasp so I can no longer quote them. However, I can say a number of other of folks on this list have also found the 'green E.III' reference to Max's aircraft, so we might ask them for their references. To Nick, sorry to see you go, I hopr to see you return in the future. Well I hope I didn't miss anyone. Again, I'm glad to see your all up and around. This reminds me of the 'Rip von Richtofen' story. The stoyry where MvR wakes up eighty years later to find a major continuing argument over just whom shot him down. See you on the list. The Flyin' Wrench CLEAR THE COWS OFF THE RUNWAY! - I'm outta here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:15:47 -0500 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: POSSIBLE rip-off alert. Message-ID: <960308151546_241021236@emout04.mail.aol.com> Hi all, This item reproduced from rec.models.scale as there has been some recent discourse here on the subject and people involved may possibly benefit from contacting Woody sooner rather than later... >From: corsair@nando.net (Mr Archer) >Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 12:47:00 -0500 >Greetings, >If anyone has had any dealings (good or bad) with a recent poster from >Houston who is selling his deceased father's collection of kits please >contact me at once. >Woody >> Sorry to intrude... Simon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:42:10 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Video query Message-ID: <199603082042.LAA25869@anchor> At 02:13 PM 3/8/96 -0500, Jesse Thorn wrote: >On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Matt Bittner wrote: >Did anyone notice the continuity break during the Lafayette Escadrille >sequence? The Nieuport 17s (?) were revved up, taxied to takeoff >position, throttled up, and then all of a sudden we were looking at >something like a Nieuport 29 taking off. The Wrench That was no continuity break that was my wife, but seriously folks, Many people think that they are seeing a continuity break when actually it is a little know fact that many aircraft actually 'morph' on takeoff. This morphing is especially noticable in those old WWII movies where a Jap Zero takes to the skies and then suddenly turns into a T-6 'Texan'. For years, many folks thought that this was bad editing but in fact recent research has revealed that it is perfectly natural for this type of morphing to occur at any time during filming.While such morphing appears funny to the viewer, pilots were very disconcerted by this happening to their aircraft; as they would often take off in a high performance fighter only to find they were suddenly flying an underpowered trainer against a well armed enemy, unless of couse the enemy suddenly morphed as well. There are many instances of both axis and allied aircraft taking to the air only to have both sides suddenly morph into T-6s. Although this made for a fair fight, many pilots became disgruntled with the thought of such a leveling of the odds. Some of these disgruntled pilots eventually turned to bus driving for an exciting career move. Other noticable morping was in WWI movies where a Fokker D.VII will suddenly morph into a Travel Air 2000 or a Rose Parakett, or an SE-5 would morph into a Thomas Morse scout. One of the best morpings I personally witnessed is where a Gotha actually turns into a Ford trimoter before it even begins to taxi! Yep, happens all the time, so the next time you see a supposed editing mistake, rest smugly in the knowledge that you now know the truth. The Flyin Wrench CONTACT! - turbines spooled up 100% - WHOA! there it just happened again - I'm outta' here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:03:17 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Aurora 1/48 Bristol Brisfit Message-ID: <199603082103.MAA26671@anchor> At 03:02 PM 3/8/96 -0500, Jesse Thorn wrote: > >Is this kit even closely remote to being accurate in shape and outline? >I have a copy of this thing and keep thinking about building it. Has >anyone ever 'corrected' this kit and if so what did you do? > The Wrench imparts: Although this model was actually moulded as a 1/24 scale 'Lil' Duce Coup' and then later boxed as a 'Bristol Brisfit' it is an easy model to correct - Here's how: (1) Simply carve out a new set of accurate molds with the correct details. (2) Melt down the offending plastic. (3) Pour into the new moulds. (5) Break remoulded plastic out of moulds. (5) Build kit. Yep, It's that easy. A nice byproduct of this correction technique is that you can take old plastic pop bottles and mold thousands more aircraft and sell them to the WWI starved public. Sometimes I wonder why modelers can't see the obvious. Tune in next week when we tell you how to accurately and cheaply paint WWI aircraft by simply purchasing readily available WWI surplus paint and using it to paint your models. Well that all for this weeks episode of The Flyin' Wrench. And remember, if the women don't find you handsome at least they'll find you accurate. PULL OUT THE DANG'D CHOCKS WILL YA' - I'm outta here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:20:37 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Merlin Kits-quality ?? Message-ID: David wrote: >Actually, there were a couple of Merlin kits that were quite good, based on >Czech Master resins. These include the DH5, HB W-28, Breguet 14, Junkers J4, >Fokker EV, Halberstadt DII. Natually, you need to thin out the wings, but >otherwise they are great starting points. Most of the rest are just plane >(sic) bad. I would respectfully disagree on a couple of these. I know the DH-5, Br-14 and Junkers were based on Czech resins since I have seen, or own resin originals of these. The HB W 28 (don't you mean 20 ??) I'm uncertain of. The Fokker E-V and Halberstadt D-II were both a bit on the clunky side, I would be quite surprised that these had their origins as resin kits. The Halberstadt was one of the first Merlin releases and I am the most doubtful of its resinated origins. For what its worth, the DH-5 was also sold by Airmodel of Germany. This kit is a resin copy of the Czech original and is of reasonably good quality. They also sold a resin copy of the Sopwith Dolphin that later turned up in injection form from Pegasus. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:24:58 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ragwings news Message-ID: Matt has written: >Shoulda read the entire issue before posting... > >Anyway, a small classified ad by Ragwings mentions that they are >selling their decals for "other manufacturer's kits". Pfalz E.I, >Fokker D.VI and Bristol Scout D: all *three* sheets for $5.00 >post-paid. Each aircraft comes with two markings, so there's a >total of six aircraft there. Hey, not a bad price! > >Oh yea, if you have to ask, it's Steve's scale, 1/72nd...;-) > >Address is MGS Enterprises, 24 Bishopgate Dr., Rochester, NY, 14624. > I just saw this in a classified in the latest FSM. I regard this as bad news for Ragwings. I think it means that he didn't sell enough kits to consume all of the decals he had printed up for his kits and that this is simply a means of trying to recoup at least some of his investment. I haven't seen an ad for his kits in at least 6 months so I fear that this may be the death knell for this little enterprise. I would like to think that this wasn't so. Does anyone on this list have any of these kits ? I am curious to hear some impressions on them. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:30:02 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: New kits Message-ID: Continuing a thread: >> Don't know if anybody has read the new kit list in FSM yet or not, >> but something of interest. >> >> A "new" company (at least one I haven't heard of), called HITKIT out >> of Poland is releasing - in *1/72nd* - Albatross Oeffag D.III 52/153, >> 153 late, and 253 series models. Anybody know anything of this >> company? FSM has a release date of February, with a price of $8.50 >> each. Great price! I just wonder how accurate these are... >> In which Erik wrote: > The skinny from Jeff is that HITKIT is gonna be good. The thinking is that >these are the same guys that do Vista. I built Vista's Fairey Fulmar (what >is that?????); it was 'not bad'. There is a Polish decal maker (whose name, >naturally, escapes me...) who is currenly cutting some pretty good stuff, >and I believe they are gonna make the kit-supplied sheet. > I should hope that the kit out-lines will be correct-- the recent >land-slide of aviation books out of Poland, plus the availability of an >*actual* Oef.253 in Krakov, should give them plenty of opportunity to get >it right! If it matches the recent drawings in _Prezniy Lotnitce_ it will >be super! > Where did you get the information about the existence of an "actual" OEF 253 in Poland ??? I would very much like to know the source of information on this and see a photo if possible. I have a couple of these Polish language books with their rather nice drawings and photos, but being unable to read them I don't know if they mention any original airframes. I didn't think that one of these survived from the Berlin collection but perhaps I am mistaken. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:44:27 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Engine turned cowlings Message-ID: Hi, guys and gal[s], > The honorable wizard fromm Oz- Dr. Fauchon Thank 'ee, thank 'ee 80) "Fromm"? "Gl"aubig", yes, but not "fromm" 80) has defined chat for us- now I > know what the Brits mean when they talk about "chatting up a bird" Depends highly on the bird ha ha! 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