WWI Digest 54 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Quick by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: Quick by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 3) Hannover & Floh by Jose Valenciano 4) Eduard Fokker E.V- Help Me! by Robert Woodbury 5) FOKKER E.V !!! by Jose Valenciano 6) Re: FOKKER E.V !!! by Robert Woodbury 7) Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set by DavidL1217@aol.com 8) Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 9) RE: Hannover & Floh by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 10) Re: FOKKER E.V !!! by Jose Valenciano 11) Re: FOKKER E.V !!! by Robert Woodbury 12) Re: Eduard EIII - Crap? by vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) 13) Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set by aew (Allan Wright) 14) Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by aew (Allan Wright) 15) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re[2]: Eduard EIII - Crap? by "Jim Wallace" 17) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by "STEVE HUSTAD" 18) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 19) Windsock 12(1) by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 20) Re: Windsock 12(1) by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) 23) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by The Flying Wrench 24) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by The Flying Wrench 25) Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:44:14 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Quick Message-ID: <199603041545.PAA02640@cso.com> If someone could email me direct, since I need a quick response: If I push the control stick forward, the horizontal control surfaces xxxxxx (are down, or up?) Thanks! Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Ex-lovers make great speed bumps" - Bumper Sticker -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 15:56:50 -0600 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Quick Message-ID: <9603042156.AA24254@deimos.tx.iex.com> >If someone could email me direct, since I need a quick response: > >If I push the control stick forward, the horizontal control surfaces >xxxxxx (are down, or up?) Thanks! Down. Push to dive, pull to climb. Unless you are inverted of course :-) Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:36:01 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Hannover & Floh Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Summer vacation is just around the corner and my hands are just itching to get something going real soon. Right now my evenings are spent having the unmade kits elbowing each other for fondle time. As I see it the Eduard Hannover, with its more than ample fuselage mid-section is edging the others out. Oh well, time to give in to Teuton mania just one more time. So I come to a few questions for my fellow list members. 1) I'm looking for a nice color scheme for the beast. One with painted lozenges on the fuselage. With bold markings. Have any? 2) In photos, were these painted lozenges noticeably lighter or darker than the printed fabric? 3) I know that the fixed vertical tail was painted too. But how about the horizontal tails, were they painted as well? If they were painted, this means that they wer ply covered right? Then the rib detail should be sanded away then? OOPS! Looks like a mouse just jumped onto my worktable. No it's not a mouse.... it's a flea.... a German flea. Ok, Ok, I think there's still a little more space on the work table for Eduard's DFW Floh. A few questions about this little critter: 1) What was it's color? Light blue, light grey, light blue grey? 2) There's a rectangular panel on the top of each upper wing. The instructions say to paint them silver. What were they? radiators? fuel tanks? 3) I read somewhere that the black decal markings on the nose are actually vents/holes. Can anyone comment on this. 4) The colored top view drawing on the instruction sheet shows a gap between the fixed tail and the elevator control horns. This is not how the part is molded. Should I do some cutting? I hope you can help out... ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 08:45:18 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Eduard Fokker E.V- Help Me! Message-ID: <313C456E.5633@per.dwr.csiro.au> Greetings All, I'm hoping that someone out there can help me- I reached a pivotal point in my modelling life.....I'm about to attach the wing and undercarriage to my almost complete 1/48 Eduard Fokker E.V and I'm kinda stuck.... Okay, okay, I know I should have spent more time dry fitting, but I raelly wanted to build this baby. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions on have to achieve this feat in one easy go? All suggestions greatfully received. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 09:04:21 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: FOKKER E.V !!! Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Robert Woodbury wrote: > Greetings All, > > I'm hoping that someone out there can help me- I reached a pivotal point > in my modelling life.....I'm about to attach the wing and undercarriage > to my almost complete 1/48 Eduard Fokker E.V and I'm kinda stuck.... FOKKER E.V?! FOKKER E.V!? You have a Fokker E.V from Eduard!? Maybe you mean Fokker E.III? Please write back and appease my confusion. Then I can give you some tips. If it's an E.III you're talking about.... ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 09:17:16 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: FOKKER E.V !!! Message-ID: <313C4CEC.4F93@per.dwr.csiro.au> Well, it's the E.V/D.VIII- most of the marking options in the kit are for E.V's, so I thought I'd be a smart arse and call it that! Clear as mud? Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:36:14 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set Message-ID: <960304203613_341062935@mail04.mail.aol.com> According to Brad Hansen's wonderful tome WWI in Plastic, Revell issued several 3-in-1 sets. These were: 3 WWI Dogfighters: 1/28 Spad in markings of SPA 48 (only time issued) Camel - Roy Brown Fokker DrI - von Ritchtofen Street Value $150. Air Aces of WWI 1/72 Albatros DIII - Werner Voss Nieport 17 - Guynemer DH2 - Hawker Fighter Aeroplanes of WWI 1/72 Se5a - 25 Aero Sqd (Biddle?) Fokker DVII - Udet SPAD XIII - 22nd Aero Sqd 3 Famous Fighters of WWI Camel - Navel 10 Sqd "B" Flight Eindecker - Turkish Mkgs Morane Street Value on any of these $15 - 20. I certainly wished Monovell or Revellogram would reissue the SPA 48 markings. They have nicely added Barraca and a Czech set but the SPA 48 markings are the only French markings done for this one! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:16:06 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set Message-ID: <199603050416.AA05038@ednet1.orednet.org> Alan writes: > >I've seen this in several used model catalogs. Anyone know what it in >the Revell set Air Aces of WWI? > >Which kits? Which Aces/Decals? Worth how much $$$? > John Burns' Kit Collectors' Value Guide sez Aces of WW1 contains Hawker's DH.2, Voss' Albatros D.III and Guynemer's N.17 with a suggested value of $15-$20 - not to be confused with Famous Fighters of WW1 which has the same suggested value but contains the Camel, (10 Sqn) Garros' Morane-Saulnier N and a Turkish Fokker E.III. Also not to be confused with Fighter Aeroplanes of WW1 which contains the SE.5a (25 Aero, USAAC) Fokker VII (Udet) und SPAD XIII (22nd Aero) which is not listed in Burns' price guide but is mentioned in Brad Hansen's WW1 in Plastic and which would probably be in the same price range as the other two. Further not to be confused with Dogfighters of WW1 which contained the three 1/28th scale WW1 planes with a suggested value of $150 and up (but almost worth it for the 'Chante de Combat' decals for the SPAD!) Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 96 09:55:00 EST From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: RE: Hannover & Floh Message-ID: <199603050442.OAA00791@mimmon.mim.com.au> Joey asks much, but I can answer just a little: >3) I know that the fixed vertical tail was painted too. But how >about the horizontal tails, were they painted as well? If they >were painted, this means that they wer ply covered right? Then >the rib detail should be sanded away then? I don't have the datafile with me, but from memory, the LOWER horizontal tail is ply covered (part of fuselage structure) and the upper is fabric covered. The lower tail is painted in pseudo lozenge of about the same size and colour as the actual loz fabric on the fabric covered surfaces. However the painted fuselage seems generally to have polygons which are larger (3 or 4 times) than loz fabric. I couldn't begin to guess the colours, but I recall reading that they were roughly matched to the fabric, and often oversparyed with a translucent dark blue. All from memeory, possibly faulty. FLOH 1) What was it's color? Light blue, light grey, light blue grey? i can't find any reference brave enough to guess. I went with blue for no better reason than that thats how Rimmell pictured it on my only reference and it'll save arguments with the colour police. Perhaps no-one knows, in which case it may be an idea to paint it however DFW painted the majority of their aircraft. Whatever that was. >3) I read somewhere that the black decal markings on the nose are >actually vents/holes. Can anyone comment on this. True. I'm a coward and wont even try to open them up given the shape. The two tiny indentations above the prop are also vents NOT gun ports (according to WW1 Warplanes). I opened them up, then had to fill one and redrill since it's either about 0.3mm high OR I got the drill in the wrong place. >4) The colored top view drawing on the instruction sheet shows >a gap between the fixed tail and the elevator control horns. This >is not how the part is molded. Should I do some cutting? I missed this and will have to look at it before I get much further. Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1920 15:21:29 +0800 (HKT) From: Jose Valenciano To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: FOKKER E.V !!! Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Robert Woodbury wrote: > Well, it's the E.V/D.VIII- most of the marking options in the kit are for > E.V's, so I thought I'd be a smart arse and call it that! > > Clear as mud? Ooooh, what a idiot thing for me to ask. Obviously I'm too fixated on the Fokker E.III at the moment. Although I haven't made or even seen the Eduard E.V kit, I have done the DML one and I suppose that wing and fuselage attachment problems carry over. I attached the wing and let it dry first before I did the landing gear. What I did was to make a kind of construction jig. Not so hard really. 1) Get some graphing paper, the finer the grid, the better, and tape this onto a hard surface. 2) Lay the fuselage onto the paper and make sure it's aligned longtitudinally and that the centerline aligns with one of the gridlines. It's important that the front fuselage, not the rear is in full contact with the flat surface. 3) make a jig that holds the fuselage in this position. All you need for this is some popsicle sticks and a glue gun. Of course, don't get any glue on the fuselage! 4) Glue the struts to the wing. Use some slow setting glue (liquid cement?)to give you time to play with the alignment. 5) Glue the wing/struts to the clamped down fuselage. Slow setting glue here too. 6) You can check if one side of the wing is tipping by standing a ruler beside each wingtip. Both must be the same in height. 7) You can check if either the port or starboard wing is more forwar than the other by standing a T-square (or cassette case?) on the outer leading edge of each side and checking against the graphing paper. 8) When the wing is trued up you may want allow just a little more liquid cement to seep into the joints. A ruling pen is good for this type or work. 9) Keep this assembly aligned as it dries by propping the wing up with paint bottles, cassette cases, etc. 10) Put the whole thing aside, in a safe place, away from prying hands, giving the joins time to dry/harden (1 1/2 - 2 weeks would be good) 1) For the landing gear, glue the airfoil to the struts, to the fuselage (slow setting glue again). 2) Make sure that the airfoil is alinged to the fuselage by eyeballing from underneath. What can help here is if you mark up some masking tape with millimeter lines. And tape this to each side of the wing, near the center. Tape them longtitudinally, meaning the zero mark on the trailing edge, and the 20mm mark near the leading edge. 3) To make sure that one side of the plane doesn't tip, place the plane on a hard surface, right side up and place ruler on each wingtip just like when you did the wing. Good luck and give us new of your progress! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 15:37:45 -0500 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: FOKKER E.V !!! Message-ID: <313CA619.16F4@per.dwr.csiro.au> Jose Valenciano wrote: > > Good luck and give us news of your progress! > Will do and thank you for the tips! Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:19:46 +1000 (EST) From: vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard EIII - Crap? Message-ID: <199603050819.SAA04199@world.net> Jim, I've recently finished the Eduard EIII and haven't experienced the problem described below...could you clarify! I tend to replace all two dimensional etch with tube, scratch etc. (By the way I think the kits very good, except for the extra rib...and looks great once finished). Regards Vincent Jim Stated: > If you line up the suspension on the cockpit floor with the correct > position on the outside of the plane, you'll have the pilot sitting > under the machine gun! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:38:56 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell Air Aces WWI set Message-ID: <199603051338.IAA00817@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > John Burns' Kit Collectors' Value Guide sez Aces of WW1 contains > Hawker's DH.2, Voss' Albatros D.III and Guynemer's N.17 with a > suggested value of $15-$20 - not to be confused with Famous Fighters (Others snipped for brevity) Ahhh thanks, this is what I was hoping for - I new there were 3 sets in 1/72 and was hoping this one was the one that had the DH-2. -Allan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603051611.LAA01724@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Since everyone was so nice to respond to my last request here's another: The Merlin 1/72 kit Fokker D.I & D.II..... is this a 2 kit set or does it build ONE model of either A/C? Thanks again, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | I'm not left handed either! - The Man in Black University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling Mosaic Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:33:49 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603051035.KAA12353@cso.com> On 5 Mar 96 at 11:11, Allan Wright typed diligantly: > The Merlin 1/72 kit Fokker D.I & D.II..... is this a 2 kit set or does > it build ONE model of either A/C? Why would one want to? (HUGE :-)) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 09:10:12 EST From: "Jim Wallace" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Eduard EIII - Crap? Message-ID: <9602058260.AA826054984@smtphost.dca.com> I looked more closely at the photos of the skinned EIII last night and find the rudder pedals are in-fact in the curved part of the fuselage, right behind the fire wall. The Eduard cockpit, being square won't work. Their cockpit consists of two 'bays'. The rear one having the seat and control stick, the other the suspension and rudder pedals. The real plane has three bays. The rearmost with the seat, the middle one with the control stick. The rear edge of the foremost has double tubing and is where the suspension and the wing are attached. This bay makes up the curved part of the fuselage, and contains the rudder pedals. If you have either Eindecker book, it is fairly clear. I just think that if they go to all the trouble of building a pricey kit with photoetch and white-metal, they could be a bit more accruate. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Eduard EIII - Crap? Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 3/5/96 3:26 AM Jim, I've recently finished the Eduard EIII and haven't experienced the problem described below...could you clarify! I tend to replace all two dimensional etch with tube, scratch etc. (By the way I think the kits very good, except for the extra rib...and looks great once finished). Regards Vincent Jim Stated: > If you line up the suspension on the cockpit floor with the correct > position on the outside of the plane, you'll have the pilot sitting > under the machine gun! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 1996 12:09:12 GMT From: "STEVE HUSTAD" To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: The merlin Fokker D.I & D.II *WERE* indeed a double "kit". Both are suitable for taking out in your driveway, dousing with gasoline and setting afire. Yuck! Does anyone out there in cyberland know what happened to Windsock Volume 12/No.1? This is about four weeks overdue now. Has anyone seen the equally overdue Datafile on the H.B. W.29? Anyone also heard of the status of MMP magazine too? Steve H. Since everyone was so nice to respond to my last request here's another: The Merlin 1/72 kit Fokker D.I & D.II..... is this a 2 kit set or does it build ONE model of either A/C? Thanks again, Al ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:29:17 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: Al, our esteemed list admin, inquires: >Since everyone was so nice to respond to my last request here's another: > >The Merlin 1/72 kit Fokker D.I & D.II..... is this a 2 kit set or does >it build ONE model of either A/C? > This is a double kit, enought bits to build both the D-I and D-II but without a LOT of work the results wouldn't be very pretty. The outlines of the kits are passable (it would be nice to have some better plans for these machines, Ray Rimell are you listening ?) but the plastic (black) is pretty thick and just plain ugly. Metal bits are fair and unfortunately suffer from pitting (anyone with an effective way to deal with this ??). If you didn't get one ot these when they came out, good luck finding one. Didn't Classic Plane in Germany kit one or the other of these ??? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:38:09 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Windsock 12(1) Message-ID: Steve H. inquires: > > Does anyone out there in cyberland know what happened to Windsock > Volume 12/No.1? This is about four weeks overdue now. Has anyone seen > the equally overdue Datafile on the H.B. W.29? I know of a couple of folks that have gotten their copies, including Shane in Australia. > > Anyone also heard of the status of MMP magazine too? > Down the tubes ?? That is a rumor I have heard. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:41:18 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Windsock 12(1) Message-ID: <199603051242.MAA14212@cso.com> On 5 Mar 96 at 13:23, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > Steve H. inquires: > > > > > Does anyone out there in cyberland know what happened to Windsock > > Volume 12/No.1? This is about four weeks overdue now. Has anyone seen > > the equally overdue Datafile on the H.B. W.29? > > I know of a couple of folks that have gotten their copies, > including Shane in Australia. Mine came in the mail from Rosemont about a week and a half ago. Both the Windsock and the W.29 Datafile (such a great looking aircraft!). > > > > Anyone also heard of the status of MMP magazine too? > > > Down the tubes ?? That is a rumor I have heard. Another rumor I heard was that it's going quarterly. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:41:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603051242.MAA14205@cso.com> On 5 Mar 96 at 13:16, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > If you didn't get one ot these when they came out, good luck finding > one. Didn't Classic Plane in Germany kit one or the other of these ??? I can only speak from experience on the Fokker D.II. Yes, Classic Plane does the D.II, I have one. You might be able to find one if you're lucky: Classic Plane tends to be a bit hit and miss, but I don't thing anything's out of production. It just takes him awhile to make more. The D.I is supposed to be done by Meikraft, if anyone wants to go there. Speaking of Meikraft, anybody else who ordered the Lloyd triplane actually get one (Steve)? I've talked to a couple people who were supposed to get one (or two, or...), but I haven't heard that anybody else has actually received there's. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Ex-lovers make great speed bumps" - Bumper Sticker -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:44:40 -0500 From: amadon@pcix.com (Gerald P. MCOSKER) To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: > Steve H.asked > Does anyone out there in cyberland know what happened to Windsock > Volume 12/No.1? This is about four weeks overdue now. Has anyone seen > the equally overdue Datafile on the H.B. W.29? I just received mine last Friday- the Windsock seemd rather meager in content- or is it just thatI have become jaded by the excellent kit reviews etc in this newsgroup? Bitte? Cheese Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:00:17 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603052000.LAA01380@anchor> At 01:08 PM 3/5/96 -0500, STEVE HUSTAD wrote: > The merlin Fokker D.I & D.II *WERE* indeed a double "kit". > Both are suitable for taking out in your driveway, dousing with > gasoline and setting afire. Yuck! The Flyin' Wrench recalls: I remember, as a child, that it was far more rewarding to first build the kits, then set them up accordingly on an enemy airfield, then fly over with an allied aircraft of some type, (doesn't matter what type, but must have roundels for markings), THEN douse offending aircraft with some type of aromatic substance, naphtha, paraffin, petrol, whatever and light said e/a aircraft on fire thus completing a successful raid. Now as adults we just drive over them with a car or set the box and all on fire. I guess adults just don't take the time to formulate and execute a discriminating plan for a just end to offending models. There was a time when I took an 'Airfix' B-17 and filled it with dad's black powder, wings and all. Then I took 'Jetex' fuse and wired all the compartments together. I lit this B-17 firecracker and ran like hell. A second later, I heard a report like a 155 howitzer. Turning around, I found a twenty five foot diameter crater where the B-17 had been. Now that was satisfying! I guess kids aren't as clever as adults when considering certain actions. On the other hand Joe Kennedy tried the same thing and only succeeded in atomizing himself along with the fortress. The Wrench CONTACT! - I'm outta here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:06:09 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603052006.LAA01560@anchor> At 01:48 PM 3/5/96 -0500, Matt Bittner wrote: >I can only speak from experience on the Fokker D.II. Yes, Classic >Plane does the D.II, I have one. You might be able to find one if >you're lucky: Classic Plane tends to be a bit hit and miss, but I >don't thing anything's out of production. It just takes him awhile >to make more. The Flyin' Wrench wonders? Are Classic Plane floh/72 scale? Or are they big enough to see without an electron microscope?> The Wrench UP SHIP! - I'm outta here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:24:55 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Fokker D.I & D.II Message-ID: <199603051426.OAA15663@cso.com> On 5 Mar 96 at 15:04, The Flying Wrench typed diligantly: > Are Classic Plane floh/72 scale? Or are they big enough to see > without an electron microscope?> Yes, 1/72nd, but only those who are *really* old need any help seeing this scale! ;-) Matt ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 54 ********************