WWI Digest 377 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Thursday, 28 December 1916, Plessis by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 2) Re: This List by vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) 3) Re: This List by mbittner@juno.com 4) Nie.28 continues by mbittner@juno.com 5) Re: This List by mbittner@juno.com 6) Re: This List by Lawrence Dunn 7) Re: This List by Ray Boorman 8) Re^2: This List by Hirohisa Ozaki 9) Re: This List by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: Re^2: This List by Lawrence Dunn 11) Re: Nie.28 continues by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 12) Re: Re^2: This List by "S.M. Head" 13) Re: Who won? by "Shelley Goodwin" 14) Re[2]: This List/Current Project(s) by "Shelley Goodwin" 15) Re[2]: Re^2: This List by "Shelley Goodwin" 16) Re: Nie.28 continues by mbittner@juno.com 17) Re: This List - Air or Armor? by mbittner@juno.com 18) Re: Who won? by Lawrence Dunn 19) Re: This List - Air or Armor? by Lawrence Dunn 20) Re: This List by Erik Pilawskii 21) Re: Re^2: This List by GRBroman@aol.com 22) Re: This List - Air or Armor? by mbittner@juno.com 23) Lovely Modeling weather by Ray Boorman 24) Re: Some news by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:29:11 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Thursday, 28 December 1916, Plessis Message-ID: <32C5E587.6A59@host.dmsc.net> Very muggy foggy day. Went to target range in a.m. and fired machine guns and carbines. Range in 200 metres. Wrote up lots of notes for Major Parker in p.m. Hope to get to Paris on Sat. Put in request to go. Letter from Helen. Guess she was mighty pleased with the White Roses I gave her for Christmas. Am finding the meals at the canteen mighty good and they scarcely cost anything at all. Food finely cooked and well served. *********************** from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:51:37 +1100 (EST) From: vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <199612290151.MAA18333@world.net> Hey Matt, lurkings great. I can get all the benefits without contributing!! Perfect situation.....I'm off to join the public service! Just finished Roseplane's Caproni-Pensuti Triplane (Great Kit) and am currently working on an Eduard DV in the colours of Lt. Hans Joachim von Hipple. Next up will be one of the following: Blue Max - Airco DH2 Pegasus - Phonix DI Eduard - Sopwith Triplane Classic Airframes - I-153 Chaika (it IS a biplane at least!) The list has been great throughout the year and I must thank everyone who DOES spend the time and effort contributing. Regards, Vincent (The Lurker) Price ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:08:11 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <19961228.200924.13222.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:58:04 -0500 barrett@eyepoint.com (barrett) writes: > BTW: Of the Airfix, Revel and Minicraft Sopwith Camels, which > produces the best finished piece? Neither!?! Seriously, they all require work to get them "correct", whatever that means. However, the least amount of work is probably in the Revell. And make sure it's Revell. Most of the ESCI clones I have of the Revell models for some reason shortened the wings. I don't know why, as most of the rest of the model is a direct duplicate. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:16:34 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Nie.28 continues Message-ID: <19961228.201725.13222.3.mbittner@juno.com> Ok, now that we have it established that the Aurora, now Glencoe Nie.28 came out in '57, what about the Revell 1/72nd one? Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:16:33 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <19961228.201725.13222.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:57:39 -0500 vprice@Sydney2.world.net (Vincent Price) writes: > Hey Matt, lurkings great. I can get all the benefits without > contributing!! Oh, so you're the type of person who says: "I won't vote. It doesn't matter, since my vote doesn't count." Jeeessee. ;-) > Perfect situation.....I'm off to join the public service! Ah, so you do understand, then. > Just finished Roseplane's Caproni-Pensuti Triplane (Great Kit) > and am currently working on an Eduard DV in the colours of Lt. > Hans Joachim von Hipple. Next up will be one of the following: Hey, most of Roseplane's stuff is pretty good. Sure, there's some work to be had, but what WW1 kit doesn't? Plus, it's in the correct scale. ;-) > Blue Max - Airco DH2 > Pegasus - Phonix DI > Eduard - Sopwith Triplane > Classic Airframes - I-153 Chaika (it IS a biplane at least!) Hey, SAvMI has listed the Aeroclub RE8. Anybody bought it yet? And about the I-153 - it's a beautiful aircraft. Just be careful, as there are scale problems with it...oops, sorry Bob. ;-) Seriously, though, it's great that VVS stuff is finally out there, especially the early Polikarpov stuff. Right, Erik? However, you still should have bought the Heller/Smer/AER kit. At least it's the right scale (gee, there I go again...). > The list has been great throughout the year and I must thank > everyone who DOES spend the time and effort contributing. Just as long as we're not pissing anybody off, again. There was a time...and it was probably all me... Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:44:16 -0800 From: Lawrence Dunn To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <32C60530.11BC@mail.idt.net> Vincent Price wrote: > Regards, Vincent (The Lurker) Price > What else COULD Vincent Price do but lurk? Larry "not a Hammer Movie star" Dunn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:10:47 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <32C5E069.458D@lynx.bc.ca> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Wow. Just got the reply back from the list server about who, > and the number of subscribers. So, we have 129 people > subscribing. Where are the rest of ya? We have a core of > about 20 or so "regulars", and the rest lurk in the background. Major snippage Ok since I am a sometime lurker. > Okay, people. Let's here what the current *WW1* project Well obviously Matt has now been excommunicated. 2 1/48 scales.... I suppose next you'll build a Me 1.. or worse one of those Jet things! As for me I have just finished the Eduard Fokker DVIII, in 1/72 Matt :-). At least I am saying it is now finished since it's survived my klutzy tricks. This time it was the decals, they don't take kindly to cloths dropped on them when they are still soft from Microsol!!! Anyway the only things left to do are fix any mistakes I made, so from past experience I'm not going to. As to what to build next, I don't have a clue. I do have an old Testors Neiuport 17 that I can ruin er I mean build. However since I will be moving house in two weeks, SWMBO has more chores than usual for me to do. I was going to take Bob Norgrens advice and order a Walfisch to build as my first attempt at a vac. If I order it now it will arrive at the new house just after I have finished moving. At least thats the plan. Ray Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 96 12:29:05 JST From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re^2: This List Message-ID: <9612290329.AA10087@sun01.miln.mei.co.jp> Hello Matt, >Hey, SAvMI has listed the Aeroclub RE8. Anybody bought it yet? I bought it a few days ago. I regret say that it is not vac-kit, rimited run injection which AEROCLUB standard. So both propotion and detail is nice. Cockpit side structures molded in fuserage parts. Many, many, many metal parts are included, no Photo etch parts. Sorry, I can not remember other thing, yes probably 6th marking decals in..... Why do I must work in office today, Sunday-Sunyday-29-December? :-( --- Hirohisa Ozaki --- from Japan, Far East as The End of World. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:06:13 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: <961228230612_1042719033@emout13.mail.aol.com> Currently, I am building the RosePlanes Martinshyde Elephant vac. Milliput City! I have to re-engineer a lot of items. Threw a Plum Blossoms Beardmore under teh bonnet and opened up all of the openings. Scratched the cockpit. Still a ways off. I have not decided what's next. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:06:11 -0800 From: Lawrence Dunn To: wwi Subject: Re: Re^2: This List Message-ID: <32C61863.31BD@mail.idt.net> Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > Hello Matt, > > >Hey, SAvMI has listed the Aeroclub RE8. Anybody bought it yet? > > I bought it a few days ago. > I regret say that it is not vac-kit, rimited run injection which AEROCLUB standard. Planes planes planes -- even from a Japanese member (and from what I recall, the Japanese had a truly great navy in the Great War)! This is very discouraging! Isn't anyone out there interested in the war that counted, y'know, on the ground (and, to a lesser extent, at sea)? What a bunch of ragheads! :) Just kidding; the airwar was damned cool (if somewhat of a side show). Seriously, is this exclusively an airwar site? I've posted a few ground-war oriented questions that have gotten zippo response. Don't hate me because I'm in the mud, Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:20:52 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Nie.28 continues Message-ID: <199612290420.AA12482@ednet1.orednet.org> > >Ok, now that we have it established that the Aurora, now >Glencoe Nie.28 came out in '57, what about the Revell >1/72nd one? The Revell 1/72 Nieuport 28 first appeared in 1966 First issues of the Revell 1/72 kits in the US were: 1963: SPAD XIII, Sopwith Camel, Albatros D.III 1964: Nieuport 17C, Fokker D.VII, S.E.5a 1965: D.H. 2, Morane Saulnier N, Fokker E.III 1966: Fokker Dr.I, Nieuport 28, Sopwith Triplane The Nieuport 17, Fokker D.VII, and S.E. 5a were available in Great Britain in 1963 but not available in the US until 1964. And, just to complete the record, the Revell 1/27 scale SPAD XIII and Fokker Dr. I were first issued in 1957 while the 1/28 Camel came out in '58 or '59 (not completely sure on this 'un.) Cheers, -- -Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:58:11 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Re^2: This List Message-ID: <9612290039.aa25284@mail.iapc.net> Larry wrote from the trenches: >Planes planes planes -- even from a Japanese member (and from what I >recall, the Japanese had a truly great navy in the Great War)! This is >very discouraging! Isn't anyone out there interested in the war that >counted, y'know, on the ground (and, to a lesser extent, at sea)? What a >bunch of ragheads! :) Well, Larry, I for one am interested in the majority of the war (that would indeed be the ground conflict), but not much in to modeling it. There's just not as much modeling "stuff" available for WWI ground war modelers. I have the Emhar tanks and all the standard stuff, but I sure would like to see a bunch of figures, equipment, artillery pieces, etc. in kit form. What a terrible, brutal war it was. I look at photos and read the accounts and just have a hard time taking it all in. The hell of the footsoldier's life and the environment he fought in is truly astounding. Not many people these days have a good knowledge of what went on during WWI, and it sure is frustrating that we (at least here in the US) have put it so far behind us that the struggle is often forgotten. > >Just kidding; the airwar was damned cool (if somewhat of a side show). >Seriously, is this exclusively an airwar site? I've posted a few >ground-war oriented questions that have gotten zippo response. If I can help in the future, I will. > >Don't hate me because I'm in the mud, Hey, we ragheads don't hate you, we'll just take your picture from thousands of feet above. Smile! Cheers! Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) | IPMS/USA #32841 | "I love cats... IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum | they taste just like chicken!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 21:27:58 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: Who won? Message-ID: <9611288518.AA851840410@mx.Ricochet.net> Rob, Do you have a good reference for Red Tide rising in late/postwar Germany with perhaps an accessable chronology or who's who in the Weimar government, the 'paramilitary' and the Freikorps? I'm looking to flesh out the Europe in Flames aspect of my page. TIA, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Who won? Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 12/24/96 8:23 AM I think there's much to be said for the idea that WW1 was won for the Allies by the German secret services and their bright idea--bringing Lenin to Russia. When the revolution spread to Kiel, Berlin, and the Ruhr, the German military had to make peace fast so that they could put down the threat to their military-industrial complex. Then there was that other stroke of genius, the Zimmerman telegram. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 21:57:43 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: This List/Current Project(s) Message-ID: <9611288518.AA851840420@mx.Ricochet.net> Bill, The librarian has bragged about the bound Aircraft in Profile subset that he recently acquired for long enough that he is obliged to start sharing the wealth. Post your address or e-mail it direct to him/me at mgoodwin@ricochet.net and I'll send you the info; Disclaimer: I'm not having delusions of grandeur, an indentity crisis or a schizophrenic episode. Yours plurally, Riordan et al P.S. While cleaning out my pop's garage and hauling mouldering books to one of my favorite used bookshops, I stumbled upon Munson's "Fighters, Attack and Training Aircraft", Bishop's "Winged Warfare" and Gurney's "Flying Aces of World War I". PK, if you are tuned in, how's the general accuracy of the Munson book? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: This List/Current Project(s) Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 12/27/96 9:38 PM Matt confesses: > I'll step out on a limb here. Not only is work progressing > ssslllooowwwlllyyy on the Eduard Albatros D.V, but I've started > the Glencoe Nie.28. We welcome you into the True Brotherhood, Fra Matt! ;^) I'm not really a lurker, but I'll step up to the plate with my current project: DML Fokker D.VIII. Next up, I'm going to see what I can do with an Aurora DH-10A that I got a hell of a bargain on. No, it's not really a collectable kit. Many parts are off the trees. One cabane is missing and I'll have to scratch it. It's in the late-style box, with 1976 copyright date. Does the library have any DH-10/10A references? I'd like to make this one of the (few) combat examples. Does anyone know which squadron(s) flew DH-10As? Squadron markings? Should the main color be NIVO or PC-10? TIA for any info. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 22:35:36 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Re^2: This List Message-ID: <9611288518.AA851841490@mx.Ricochet.net> Groundpounders, I saw 1/35 WWI figures in white metal by somebody or other (Tauro?) in the Squad/Sig catalog...kinda pricey, though. Incidentally, though I am interested in the muddy horror of the Great War, I've a fetish for that which continued after Nov. 11th of '18. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re^2: This List Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 12/28/96 10:04 PM Larry wrote from the trenches: >Planes planes planes -- even from a Japanese member (and from what I >recall, the Japanese had a truly great navy in the Great War)! This is >very discouraging! Isn't anyone out there interested in the war that >counted, y'know, on the ground (and, to a lesser extent, at sea)? What a >bunch of ragheads! :) Well, Larry, I for one am interested in the majority of the war (that would indeed be the ground conflict), but not much in to modeling it. There's just not as much modeling "stuff" available for WWI ground war modelers. I have the Emhar tanks and all the standard stuff, but I sure would like to see a bunch of figures, equipment, artillery pieces, etc. in kit form. What a terrible, brutal war it was. I look at photos and read the accounts and just have a hard time taking it all in. The hell of the footsoldier's life and the environment he fought in is truly astounding. Not many people these days have a good knowledge of what went on during WWI, and it sure is frustrating that we (at least here in the US) have put it so far behind us that the struggle is often forgotten. > >Just kidding; the airwar was damned cool (if somewhat of a side show). >Seriously, is this exclusively an airwar site? I've posted a few >ground-war oriented questions that have gotten zippo response. If I can help in the future, I will. > >Don't hate me because I'm in the mud, Hey, we ragheads don't hate you, we'll just take your picture from thousands of feet above. Smile! Cheers! Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott M. Head (smh@iapc.net) | IPMS/USA #32841 | "I love cats... IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum | they taste just like chicken!" http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:52:29 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Nie.28 continues Message-ID: <19961229.105323.14622.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:25:07 -0500 bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) writes: > The Revell 1/72 Nieuport 28 first appeared in 1966 YES!!!!! I can now get the fellow 1/72nd builders OFF MY BACK. Instead of the Glencoe/Aurora Nie.28, I'll build the 1/72nd Revell Nie.28. Happy, Steve? ;-) FWIW, our club contest for February is "Classic Kits", or something like that. Basically, you build a kit that was introduced in the '50s or '60s. So, since I didn't want a lot of work, I originally opted for the Glencoe Nie.28. Well, since the Revell Nie.28 actually has *less* work to it, I'll opt for that. ;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:52:29 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: This List - Air or Armor? Message-ID: <19961229.105323.14622.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:12:46 -0500 Lawrence Dunn writes: > Planes planes planes -- even from a Japanese member (and from > what I recall, the Japanese had a truly great navy in the Great > War)! This is very discouraging! Isn't anyone out there > interested in the war that counted, y'know, on the ground (and, > to a lesser extent, at sea)? What a bunch of ragheads! :) Hey, watch it bub. There are a few of us that do ground stuff, if not both. FWIW, the last WW1 kit I finished was a conversion of Airfix's 1/76th Mk.II into 'Mother'. > Seriously, is this exclusively an airwar site? I've posted a > few ground-war oriented questions that have gotten zippo > response. Nope, not exclusively. However, when it comes down to numbers, there are more with their head in the air, then feet on the ground. Explains a few things, doesn't it? :-) > Don't hate me because I'm in the mud Not at all. Just be sure you continue the tradition, and model in the Scale of Hustad - 1/72nd (yes, we'll forgive a foray or two into 1/76th...)!!! Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:24:11 -0800 From: Lawrence Dunn To: wwi Subject: Re: Who won? Message-ID: <32C6D36B.2495@mail.idt.net> Shelley Goodwin wrote: > > Rob, > > Do you have a good reference for Red Tide rising in late/postwar > Germany with perhaps an accessable chronology or who's who in the > Weimar government, the 'paramilitary' and the Freikorps? I'm looking > to flesh out the Europe in Flames aspect of my page. > I'm not Rob, but I hope you don't mind if I answer. Off the top of my head, I'd suggest "Germany Tried Democracy" (aka GTD). Although it's kinda old, it's a great book, and a classic study of the destruction of the Weimar Republic from within by reactionary elements that were overwhelmingly in effect in Germany (and not just Nazism!!). By the way, I disagree with the contention that a "red tide" brought Germany down. For this, simply read GTD (or any other source on the Weimar government) for its analysis of the actual revolution. The "socialist" government set up by Kurt Schleicher was actually a democratic socialist government (even more centrist than the DS parties of Europe today). Spartakus was simply a convenient handle to grab in order to sneak a ride on the next damned train out of the war! More than anything else, the strangling blockade and attrition at the front did Germany in. Sorry to get political, but it's often hard for us Americans to correctly analyze anyhing when the word "Communism" is uttered -- we've been trained like Pavlov's Dog to foam at the mouth at the mere mention of the word! Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:33:23 -0800 From: Lawrence Dunn To: wwi Subject: Re: This List - Air or Armor? Message-ID: <32C6D593.1DC5@mail.idt.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Hey, watch it bub. There are a few of us that do ground stuff, > if not both. FWIW, the last WW1 kit I finished was a conversion > of Airfix's 1/76th Mk.II into 'Mother'. > Have you tried building the Emhar 1/35 scale kit? I was amazed to see that it has all kinds of great aftermarket stuff, like individual track links! And for lovers of the proto-Panzer, it would actually be more appropriate to build a brit tank with Jerry's markings than to build one of those silly A7V contraptions. Do you, by the way, have any idea what Jerry painted his field guns (the big ones less likely to be directly stuck in)? Glad to see someone else in the trench! Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: This List Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > Perfect situation.....I'm off to join the public service! > Dang! Or, the Civil Service.... > Ah, so you do understand, then. > He would then (.."Yes, Minister?...") > Hey, most of Roseplane's stuff is pretty good. Sure, there's > some work to be had, but what WW1 kit doesn't? Plus, it's in the > correct scale. ;-) > Hear hear!! > And about the I-153 - it's a beautiful aircraft. Just be > careful, as there are scale problems with it...oops, sorry Bob. > Seriously, though, it's great that VVS stuff is finally out > there, especially the early Polikarpov stuff. Right, Erik? > Bob, which reminds me-- I have some ideas for non-topic stuff, in case you ever become interested in such things! :^) > > The list has been great throughout the year and I must thank > > everyone who DOES spend the time and effort contributing. > Ohhhh, just try contributing; like now. Something inane and simply at first-- you know I'm still in that mode. But, hey *I'm* shameless.... > Just as long as we're not pissing anybody off, again. There was > a time...and it was probably all me... > What!? *Matt* pissing people off? ("Don't be obtuse, Bernard"...") Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "If you're not living Life on the edge, you're taking up too much room!" .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:19:46 -0500 From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Re^2: This List Message-ID: <961229141945_1591295332@emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-12-28 23:11:06 EST, you write: >Just kidding; the airwar was damned cool (if somewhat of a side show). >Seriously, is this exclusively an airwar site? I've posted a few >ground-war oriented questions that have gotten zippo response. > >Don't hate me because I'm in the mud, Larry, do not become discouraged! There are those of us who build (in addition to the infernal flying machines) ships and vehicles, and the odd figure. ( actually, all of mine are odd ;)) There are occaisonal threads on vehicles, camo, and a series on the Airfix Mark I tank, courtesy of Matt, etc. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:28:09 EST From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: This List - Air or Armor? Message-ID: <19961229.132942.9294.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:40:18 -0500 Lawrence Dunn writes: > Have you tried building the Emhar 1/35 scale kit? I was amazed > to see that it has all kinds of great aftermarket stuff, like > individual track links! And for lovers of the proto-Panzer, it > would actually be more appropriate to build a brit tank with > Jerry's markings than to build one of those silly A7V > contraptions. Nope, sorry, but 1/35th is not my bag of tea. Sure, I have the Tauro A7V and Fiat 2000 (the Renault Ft.17 clone) in 1/35th, but I would rather build those in 1/72nd/1/76th before hand. Yes, I even want to superdetail the interior of the Matchbox 1/76th Ft.17, but that's another story...;-) > Do you, by the way, have any idea what Jerry painted his field > guns (the big ones less likely to be directly stuck in)? Sorry, but this will have to be answered by our members who concentrate a bit more on the ground "stuff". Glen? > Glad to see someone else in the trench! Hey, there's a few of us, which includes a couple who specialize in armor. Me, it's a secondary to aviation, so I don't have as many references, nor do I study it as diligently. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:27:32 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi Subject: Lovely Modeling weather Message-ID: <32C6F054.74AA@lynx.bc.ca> Up here in the Pacific North west we are having such wonderfull modelling weather. I have cleared at least 10 inches of snow off the drive way just today. That doesn't include what we had before Christmas. I opened my front door today and the damn stuff was drifted halfway up the door. To think I moved from the midwest to get away from this stuff:-) Anyway even though we are supposed to be moving in a couple of weeks and I am supposed to be packing boxes. My wife is reading my son is playing with his cars and I am hunkered down with a barely started Pegasus 1 1/2 strutter. I wonder when the snow will stop? Ray Boorman Bob Norgren wrote: > This latter should be banned from reviews. Too short or too long based on >what? What >references? What plans? Are the plans absolutely accurate? Are you sure? As a >manufacturer this drives me nuts. Usually, quoted dimensions in the references >neither match one another or the "plans." Factory dimensions may be based >on the >prototype or modified or unmodified early production aircraft. Usually the >task of >doing the "factory general arrangement drawings" for the maintenance >manual was left >to the interns or engineering students or apprentices. AMEN! To my way of thinking, the only relevant question is "Does it look like the real thing?" If someone says they "know" a particular airplane was this way or that way, give them a wide berth! When it comes down to it, it is all just opinion. IMHO, John Roll ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! ******************************************* ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 377 *********************