WWI Digest 359 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Caproni CA3 by meba@cso.com 2) Re: Finding by GRBroman@aol.com 3) Re: Finding by "Brian Bushe" 4) Richthofen vs Hawker by James Gibbons 5) Re: Fokker DVII cockpit details by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 6) RE: Tony Fokker's home movies? by "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" 7) Re: McCudden by Graham Nash 8) re: Re: Finding by javier ramos 9) 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by Joseph Gentile 10) Re: Wanted:Osprey Airwar swap Early Windsock by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 11) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 12) by Peter Fedders 13) None by Richard Humberstone 14) Re: by Graham Nash 15) New Insignia Web Pages by Richard Humberstone 16) Re: Last Bit... by "Ray Boorman" 17) YEEAAAHHHH by Franco Poloni 18) Re: Finding by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 19) re: Re: Finding by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 20) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 21) Re: Finding by "Ray Boorman" 22) Re: Richthofen vs Hawker by "Ray Boorman" 23) Richtofen photo ID by Brian Nicklas 24) Re: Richtofen photo ID by RedBaron12@aol.com 25) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by Rob 26) re: Re: Finding by Rob 27) RE: McCudden by Shane Weier 28) Re: Fokker DVII panel changes by "Valenciano . Jose" 29) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by "Valenciano . Jose" 30) Re: YEEAAAHHHH by "Valenciano . Jose" 31) Re^2: Halberstadt Fighter - dream machine by Hirohisa Ozaki 32) Re: Fokker DVII cockpit details by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 33) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 34) Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options by DEdger7875@aol.com 35) Re: Last Bit... by DavidL1217@aol.com 36) Re: by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 37) Re: McCudden by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:11:54 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Re: Caproni CA3 Message-ID: <199612120710.HAA07148@cso.com> On 12 Dec 96 at 5:48, Franco Poloni typed diligantly: > Last attempt does anybody knows where can I find a Meikraft > Caproni CA3?? and some references too. I've been looking for it > for years, and in Italy has become a collectible item, so the > price rise.... do I have to give up searching?? thanks for any > help As far as obtaining a Meikraft, two sources come to mind: Meikraft and Rosemont. If you can't find it from these two places, don't give up hope. I'm sure there are a few out there "disechanted" with the kit, and will sell it. Just keep your eyes open at the various plastic model events (to the list members: maybe we'll do the same for Franco?). As far as references, here's what I list: WW1 Aero, #134 Warbirds (that most often awful mag from Challenge Pubs), Vol 9 No 4 Windsock, Vol 5 No 1, Vol 6 No 6 (this is *the* issue to get, since it featured the Ca.3, and included 1/72nd drawings), Vol 8 No 6 has a review of the Meikraft kit That's it. Although I think it's a pretty important aircraft, it's surely lacking in reference material. Good luck in your quest. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:19:01 -0500 From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Finding Message-ID: <961212081859_1006834802@emout09.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-12-11 19:03:54 EST, you write: >I think Martin is already part of Lockheed, not Boeing. Yes, but didn't Boeing buy Lockheed ( well, part of it, according to the anti-trust suit) ;) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:20:25 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: Finding Message-ID: <199612121326.NAA12641@itl.net> re: Re: Finding > Of the two manufacturers listed in Janes as being active in te US during WW > I, only Boeing and Martin remain. Boeing is still going strong and Martin is > now part of Martin-Marietta and is probably owned by or soon will be owned by > Boeing :) Glen > I guess the engine manufacturers have fared somewhat better, possibly due to their other interests: Rolls, Hispano-suiza(?), BMW, Mercedes-Daimler-Benz etc. Brian Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems Denmark Street (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:25:32 -0500 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Richthofen vs Hawker Message-ID: <01BBE806.0E995C00@jgibbons.together.net> Shelley Goodwin asked what aircraft Richthofen used in his fight against = Hawker.... Under The Guns Of The Red Baron (Franks, Giblin, and McCrery) says: Richthofen was flying Albatross D-II serial number 491/16. The color plate (in the same book) of this aircraft shows an Albatross = D-II, fuselage all red (even the crosses painted over), light blue = underside of wings, top not shown. I can make no representations of the accuracy of this, I'm just = repeating what the book says.... Hope it helps James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:29:14 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker DVII cockpit details Message-ID: <1996Dec12.072727.1155.922628@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Matt - thanks for the work on digging out the info on the Fokker material, am going to look at the OTF and acouple of other sources, if I need copies of any of the other articles can I purchase photocopies from you? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 8:34:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" To: wwi Subject: RE: Tony Fokker's home movies? Message-ID: <961212083417.2023ca11@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> FYI, 8mm versions were sold in the early 1960s by the late Col. G.B. Jarrett (who also had a load of old airplanes). I have copies and am in the process of transferring them to video for the List library (along with a whole bunch of other Jarrett films from the Pfalz & Albatros factories, etc.). Justbe patient. PK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:13:00 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: McCudden Message-ID: <199612121413.AA20872@egate.citicorp.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > > (SNIP) > Anyway, more to the point, does anybody know references for "green-tail", > the Albatros V-strutter which McCudden encounters so often and finally > shoots down on 18/11/18 over Vitry. He describes a white inverted V > across the top of the wing and the letter K and previously had mentioned > all the machines had red noses. > Anybody know who the pilot was and any pictures? > Sandy Although I haven't yet bought the book, I believe it is revealed in the 'High In the Empty Blue' book by Flying Machines Press. While on the subject of McCudden's Flying Fury, does any one have any idea what the 'double V-strutter' that McCudden saw might have been? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:13:11 +0100 (CET) From: javier ramos To: wwi Subject: re: Re: Finding Message-ID: >I guess the engine manufacturers have fared somewhat better, possibly >due to their other interests: Rolls, Hispano-suiza(?), BMW, >Mercedes-Daimler-Benz etc. Hispano-Suiza I think was death wounded at Spanish Civil War. Do not forget Fiat (I think they made planes by that time as well) and Renault. Javier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:25:57 -0600 (CST) From: Joseph Gentile To: wwi Subject: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <199612121525.JAA23863@Walden.MO.NET> Would any willing soul please point me in the right direction for a reasonable source of 1/72 numbers. I have all the kreuz I could ever need in this scale but am in need of some of those teeny weeny little black numbers to apply to my w.20. This has been my only adventure in this scale, albeit an enjoyable one. Maybe the hardcore 1/72 folks can be of assistance. Yours in modelling, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:56:33 -0500 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)WWI(a)PEASE1.SR.UNH.EDU" Subject: Re: Wanted:Osprey Airwar swap Early Windsock Message-ID: <0033000002006491000002*@MHS> I don't have the books you want, but I'd be *VERY* interested in Windsock Intl. Volume 3/Number 1 if you would care to quote me a price that you want for it? - PLEASE??? Steve H. (The Mad Norseman!) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Wanted:Osprey Airwar swap Early Windsock Author: _WWI@PEASE1.SR.UNH.EDU (SMTP.WWI) at SSWGATE Date: 12/12/96 6:14 AM I am looking for German Fighter Units June 1917-1918, Airwar Series from Osprey Publications, and can offer as a swap Windsock Int Vol 2 No 1 and Vol 3 No.1. Any takers..?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:27:15 -0500 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)WWI(a)PEASE1.SR.UNH.EDU" Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <0033000002006796000002*@MHS> Joe, You're referring to the Hansa Brandenberg W.20 I presume? If so, 1/72 (naval esp.!) numbers (1552?) are hard to come by. There is a large, varied, German & A.H. sheet by Xtradecal with naval numbers, and another (small sheet) by "Almark". These are all I know of. Perhaps our friends at "Blue Rider" will 'fill the gap' with a sheet devoted to 1/72 German WW I Naval numbers!?! (And while they're at it, how about those small 1/72 German serials too?, Fok Dr.I 425/17 type of things - for example?, hmmm?). Check with John Roll at "rollmodels.com", he stocks Almark at good prices I know. Steve H. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would any willing soul please point me in the right direction for a reasonable source of 1/72 numbers. I have all the kreuz I could ever need in this scale but am in need of some of those teeny weeny little black numbers to apply to my w.20. This has been my only adventure in this scale, albeit an enjoyable one. Maybe the hardcore 1/72 folks can be of assistance. Yours in modelling, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:33:20 -0600 From: Peter Fedders To: wwi Message-ID: <199612121633.KAA28135@howdy.wustl.edu> I bought a copy of Recon & Bombers (Harleyford) at the Aviation Bookshop in London last May for 60 pounds. If you are trying to get a copy you might write them ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 16:08:58 GMT From: Richard Humberstone To: wwi Subject: None Message-ID: <850406957.614018.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> Further to my last post, the Insignia Web Pages are at: http://www.squadron.com/insignia/ Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:36:10 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Message-ID: <199612121636.AA27583@egate.citicorp.com> Peter Fedders wrote: > > I bought a copy of Recon & Bombers (Harleyford) at the Aviation Bookshop in > London last May for 60 pounds. If you are trying to get a copy you might write > them Save your pennies/cents. I go there about once a week,and they don't have any at the moment, so you'd have to put it on order. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 16:07:20 GMT From: Richard Humberstone To: wwi Subject: New Insignia Web Pages Message-ID: <850406861.613619.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> Just a short note to all on the list that the new Insignia Magazine web pages are now online, with colour illustrations of WWI era aircraft in the Soviet and Polish air forces. There is also a piece on a Bulgarian Navy FF33L with a most unusual national marking. I'll be happy to hear any comments Richard Humberstone Insignia Magazine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:10:31 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: , "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: Last Bit... Message-ID: <199612121716.JAA28021@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> More to the point does any model really get finished. I always have something that didn't get finished or added as I intended. The Fokker DVIII / EV that I have just about finished was always meant to be in full Jasta 6 markings. However since the Decals seem to disintegrate as soon as they hit water I couldnt do this. So in the end I painted the tailplane properly with stripes and left the cowling black. (Just pretend they had a problem with the cowling and had to fit one from spares.) I tried 3 attempts before giving up with various mask's but could never get decent results. Something I learned after the decals destructed was to use very warm water on decals. Since the cause of decals breaking is the stress they go through when they get wet. It seems that if the water is very warm then the decal softens and can flex a bit more when the paper expands. When I say very warm I do mean warm, not hot!. By the way the Eduard DVIII is a very very good model. Even a klutz like me can get a reasonable result. The end result looks very impressive and the small scale makes the aircraft look more fragile. I wonder what one of the really good model builders on this list could produce. Ray Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:05:48 -0100 From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: YEEAAAHHHH Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961212200548.0067482c@lo.itline.it> This is really a GREAT list in a couple of days I received the information I looked for years.. where have I been 'till now? Thanks a lot Franco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:19:45 -0600 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: Re: Finding Message-ID: <199612121819.MAA13724@sh1.ro.com> GRBroman@aol.com wrote: >Of the two manufacturers listed in Janes as being active in te US during WW >I, only Boeing and Martin remain. Boeing is still going strong and Martin is >now part of Martin-Marietta and is probably owned by or soon will be owned by >Boeing :) Glen Actually, Lockheed and Martin-Marietta merged about a year ago to form Lockheed-Martin. Janes does also list Loughhead Aircraft as a WWI era. This was the initial effort of the Lockeed brothers, but 2 firms went belly up before the current corporation was created. None of the original management or engineering staff was involved in the 3rd effort, which came about by the purchase of inactive assets from a bankruptcy court. Vought still exists as the V in LTV (Ling Temco Vought), and has always preserved its identity, although as a corporate division rather then a parent company. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:19:56 -0600 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: re: Re: Finding Message-ID: <199612121819.MAA13743@sh1.ro.com> javier ramos wrote: >Hispano-Suiza I think was death wounded at Spanish Civil War. They're still in business as a French supplier to the aerospace industry. Among other products, they make landing gear for a variety of production aircraft. I seem to recall some equipment for satellites as well, but if it hasn't got wings, I don't pay that much attention. Eli Geher who doesn't know his shillings from his pence... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:51:09 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <1996Dec12.124518.1155.923790@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Would any willing soul please point me in the right direction for a reasonable source of 1/72 numbers. Joe, I would check with a good model railroad hobby shop (like Tinker Town here in St. Louis on Clayton Rd) and look through the Champ generic number sets, they come in black and white lettering but are generally limited to a Railroad Roman type face. In a scale HO size (1/64th) they had numbers that are 2-6 inches high. There may also be acouple of other manufacturers that also make a generic set. You might also look over the Microscale sets for boxcars and refrigerators cars as the car dimensional data is in 2" high numbers but again the type face is limited. Tinker Town also carries dry transfers by Clover House but I'm not sure what is usable. Hope this helps, Charlie. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:00:56 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: , "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: Finding Message-ID: <199612121859.KAA06204@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> Rolls Royce get two companies. Since the Rolls Royce cars are no longer the same company as the Aircraft engine side. I seem to remember one of those new fangled jet thingies caused development overuns that caused the company to almost go bankrupt in the late seventies. Ray Boorman ---------- > From: Brian Bushe > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Finding > Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 5:27 AM > > re: Re: Finding > > I guess the engine manufacturers have fared somewhat better, possibly > due to their other interests: Rolls, Hispano-suiza(?), BMW, > Mercedes-Daimler-Benz etc. > > Brian > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:31:04 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: , "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: Richthofen vs Hawker Message-ID: <199612121859.KAA06212@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> I always thought that the Red paint started with Jasta 11. In fact in "Richtofen (AE Ferko)" the author could find no evidence of any special marking's while Richtofen was with Jasta 2. The first Red painted aircraft seems to have been an Albatross DIII which had a Red band round the fuselage between the cockpit and the cross. However even this book seems to be misleading since in the color plates it states the first DIII had a fuselage that was completetly Red?? Ah where are the color police :-) Also my reference states that Richtofens last Aircraft with Jasta 2 was Albatross D-II Serial Number 481/16. Does anyone know which is correct. All the above come from (Richtofen by AE Ferko and Von Richtofens Flying Circus by Greg VanWyngarden. Both published by Albatros Productions Ltd. Ie. Windsock) Ray Boorman ---------- > From: James Gibbons > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Richthofen vs Hawker > Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 5:32 AM > > Richthofen was flying Albatross D-II serial number 491/16. > > The color plate (in the same book) of this aircraft shows an Albatross = > D-II, fuselage all red (even the crosses painted over), light blue = > underside of wings, top not shown. > > I can make no representations of the accuracy of this, I'm just = > repeating what the book says.... > > Hope it helps > > James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 14:16:25 EST From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Richtofen photo ID Message-ID: <199612121919.OAA01120@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Does anyone have something that IDs the photo of Richtofen (with bandaged head) saluting the Kaiser during some review? Place, Time, Purpose, etc. would be helpful. Thanks, Brian Nicklas NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:20:39 -0500 From: RedBaron12@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Richtofen photo ID Message-ID: <961212162037_1220980953@emout15.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-12-12 15:10:59 EST, you write: << Does anyone have something that IDs the photo of Richtofen (with bandaged head) saluting the Kaiser during some review? Place, Time, Purpose, etc. would be helpful. Thanks, Brian Nicklas NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU >> According to RICHTOHFEN, BEYOND THE LEGEND OF THE RED BARON, by Peter Kilduff, there's a photo of Richtohfen salutin Kaiser Wilheml II on August 20 as the Kaiser inspected the Geschwader. It goes on to say that the monarch spoke with Richtohfen who still wore bandages from his injuries of more than seven weeks earlier. In the background is Gen Friedrich Sixt von Armin, commander of the 4 Armee. Mike Mayer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:45:47 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <9612121429.aa08954@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Would any willing soul please point me in the right direction for a > reasonable source of 1/72 numbers. I have all the kreuz I could ever need > in this scale but am in need of some of those teeny weeny little black > numbers to apply to my w.20. Try a good art/drafting supply shop and look for rub-on dry-transfer letters. They are getting hard to find, so stock up on usable typefaces. Apply them directly, or apply to clear decal film and spray with some clearcoat. Or print the numbers with a computer and photocopy the art onto clear decal film (printing directly usually does not work). Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:47:32 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: re: Re: Finding Message-ID: <9612121430.aa08972@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Hispano-Suiza I think was death wounded at Spanish Civil War. > > Do not forget Fiat (I think they made planes by that time as well) and Renault. > > Javier Not so! The French branch lasted well into the 1960s as an independent jet-engine builder and continues today as a maker of landing-gear components, associated with Messier. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:24:54 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: McCudden Message-ID: <01BBE8CF.1F1D2A60@pc087b.mim.com.au> Hi Sandy, You wonder: >Anyway, more to the point, does anybody know references for "green-tail", >the Albatros V-strutter which McCudden encounters so often and finally >shoots down on 18/11/18 over Vitry. He describes a white inverted V >across the top of the wing and the letter K and previously had mentioned >all the machines had red noses. >Anybody know who the pilot was and any pictures? Well, the green tail, red nose description fits almost all of Jasta 5. Since Jasta 5 was essentially an elite fighter unit, virtually any one of them could have been his skillful opponent, and IMHO his accounts (I have not re-read them for 5 or more years) could be an amalgam of encounters with more than one of them. The letters underneath were (mostly) the first letter of the pilots name, though this isn't definitive because some pilots took over others aircraft without changing the marking. FWIW, the "V" chevron supposedly is a mark of ace status. One pilot whose aircraft was marked with red nose, green tail, a white "V" chevron and "K" was Vzfw. Otto Konnecke - the well known plane with the chessboard motif forward of the fuselage Eiserne Kreuze However, according to Hans von Hippel, the one McCudden downed was Feldw. Martin Klein. His aircraft had the standard Jasta 5 red nose, green tail, and "K" under the wings but not AFAIK the aces chevron. The personal marking was a green belly band adorned with an 8 pointed yellow star on each side. I can't help with pictures I'm afraid, but otherwise, HTH Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 06:46:15 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fokker DVII panel changes Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > Joey, in comparing the later style Fokker panels to the early ones there is > not an inverted 'V' panel Now I know what you're talking about. I have done this too on Willy Gabriel's plane. I thought what you meant was to fill in something on the inside of the fuselage, you were really referring to the rear of the cowling. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:06:20 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Joseph Gentile wrote: > Would any willing soul please point me in the right direction for a > reasonable source of 1/72 numbers. Sometime back someone on the list suggested looking in hobby shops that cater to train buffs. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:12:24 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YEEAAAHHHH Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Franco Poloni wrote: > This is really a GREAT list > in a couple of days I received the information I looked for years.. > where have I been 'till now? RIGHT! KEEP ASKING YOURSELF THAT!!! Welcome to the list. Hope to hear more from you. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 10:21:00 JST From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re^2: Halberstadt Fighter - dream machine Message-ID: <9612130121.AA08648@sun01.miln.mei.co.jp> >Well while we're all wishing here's my 'dream kit': >I'd like so see a Halberstadt D.II/III issued as a 'multi-media' kit, >vacuum-form wings (so you can get the washout on the lower wings) and tail, >resin fuselage, >white metal engine, struts and wheels and a sheet of brass details for >exterior and interior. Decals for Turkish and German markings. (in 1/48th). I do not like to use resin for main parts cause ,(1) broken off easier, (2) difficult to glue, must need Crazy-Glue or epoxy. Of course I agree with useing resin for detail parts, like meterpanel, main part of guns, etc. My 'dream kit' : vac. for main parts, fuserage, wings, white metal engine and exhaust pipe, wheels, propeller, and main part of guns, Photo-etch gun's jacket, detail of interior and exterior. >Maybe Bob at Sierra is headed in this direction? > >Charlie. Cheers, Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:45:46 EST From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker DVII cockpit details Message-ID: <19961212.194433.4447.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:34:14 -0500 Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) writes: > Matt - thanks for the work on digging out the info on the > Fokker material, am going to look at the OTF and acouple > of other sources, if I need copies of any of the other > articles can I purchase photocopies from you? Sure, not a problem. However, with the holiday crunch, they may be a little late. ;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:45:46 EST From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <19961212.194433.4447.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:55:36 -0500 Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) writes: > Joe, I would check with a good model railroad hobby shop > (like Tinker Town here in St. Louis on Clayton Rd) and > look through the Champ generic number sets, they come in > black and white lettering but are generally limited to a > Railroad Roman type face. In a scale HO size (1/64th) > they had numbers that are 2-6 inches high. There may also > be acouple of other manufacturers that also make a generic > set. You might also look over the Microscale sets for > boxcars and refrigerators cars as the car dimensional data > is in 2" high numbers but again the type face is limited. > Tinker Town also carries dry transfers by Clover House but > I'm not sure what is usable. Well, not to be pedantic ;-) HO is 1/87th. 1/64th is - I believe - S guage. Not only check the HO section, but also look to the N guage section. There are some wonderful *small* things in this section. (FWIW, N is - I believe - 1/144th.) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 21:47:51 -0500 From: DEdger7875@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/72 decal/dry transfer options Message-ID: <961212214712_1154044675@emout01.mail.aol.com> Re N scale It is actually 1:160 I didn't read all these decal/transfer option messages so I don't know if anyone mentioned Verlinden 1/35 scale transfers some of the uniform and tactical markings could be suitable to 1/72d A/C. Now, I have a question about an Alb DV photo I have H. Nowarra's 'Die Entwicklung der Flugzeuge 1914-1918' on page 45. The fuselage is covered in lozenge (4-5 Color?) with the patee crosses. Does any body know anything about this A/C. The Pegasus DV might look nice like that. TIA Dave E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:07:51 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Last Bit... Message-ID: <961212220517_1719795953@emout14.mail.aol.com> Funny, I had the same trouble with those @#$%^^!! Propag Team decals. My intended Jasta 6 bird ended up with a chrome yellow cowling, lozenge tail and the 156/18 serial of the aircraft in the photo of Thoe Osterkamp. I wonder what other inspiration those decal will give modelers! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:15:23 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Message-ID: <199612130315.WAA02407@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 11:40 AM 12/12/96 -0500, Graham Nash wrote: >Peter Fedders wrote: >> >> I bought a copy of Recon & Bombers (Harleyford) at the Aviation Bookshop in >> London last May for 60 pounds. If you are trying to get a copy you might write >> them > > >Save your pennies/cents. I go there about once a week,and they don't >have any at the moment, so you'd have to put it on order. Graham Sorry, but curiosuty got the better of me...are you the guy with Still&Crosby? If so, nice music. If not, never mind! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:15:25 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: McCudden Message-ID: <199612130315.WAA02416@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 07:37 AM 12/12/96 -0500, Sandy Adam wrote: >(Major Deletions) >Anyway, more to the point, does anybody know references for "green-tail", >the Albatros V-strutter which McCudden encounters so often and finally >shoots down on 18/11/18 over Vitry. He describes a white inverted V >across the top of the wing and the letter K and previously had mentioned >all the machines had red noses. >Anybody know who the pilot was and any pictures? I guess I'm the only one close enought to a copy of High in the Empty Blue by Alex Revell to respond to this right away. There's a short section at the end of the main part of the book on "Greentail." Two conclusions are reached: 1) The Greentail shot down on 2-18-18 by McCudden was most likely Unteroffizier Julius Kaiser. According to Revell, the Jasta 35b war diary . in describing Kaiser's death matches McCudden's version.; 2) As to whether this was the same Greentail earlier mentioned and encountered by McCudden, Revell concludes it was not. When Greentail was first spotted by McCudden, Jasta 35b wasn't in the area...Jasta 5 was. As if well known, Jasta 5 had green tails outlined in red. Jasta 5 also used the "V" to deenote ace status and used the first letter of the last name as an identifier. Vzfw. Otto Konnecke best suits the skills of the pilot mentioned as Greentail. According to Revell, the pilot surprised by McCudden on 2-18-18 seems a far cry from the Greentail encountered earlier. HTH Mike Muth ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 359 *********************