WWI Digest 351 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Message to Carlos Valdes by barrett@eyepoint.com (barrett) 2) Re: Ax murder by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 3) WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 by Bill Bacon 4) Re: Ax murder by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 5) Re: Announcements from the IPMS UK show, Pegasus, Blue Max by DavidL1217@aol.com 6) Re: In defense of Gabriele D'annunzio by DavidL1217@aol.com 7) more aircraft profiles books by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Ax murder by javier ramos 9) Sopwith Snipe by Sandy Adam 10) RE: Sopwith Snipe by Shane Weier 11) Re: Ax murder by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 12) Re: WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 13) RE: Sopwith Snipe by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 14) Re: Ax murder by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 15) Re: Ax murder by Rob 16) Re: Ax murder by Rob 17) Re: In defense of Gabriele D'annunzio by Rob 18) Re: Ax murder by Rob 19) Re: Ax murder by Rob 20) Re: Ax murder by Rob 21) Re: Ax murder by "Gerald P. MCOSKER" 22) Re: Ax murder by Sandy Adam 23) Re: Ax murder by Sandy Adam 24) Re: Squardon/Signal Books by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 25) Re: Squardon/Signal Books by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 26) Re: Squardon/Signal Books by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 27) Re: FAQ info by "Joseph R. Boeke" 28) Re: Ax murder by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 29) Re: Sopwith Snipe by "Valenciano . Jose" 30) RE: Ax murder by Shane Weier 31) RE: Squardon/Signal Books by Shane Weier 32) RE: Ax murder by Rob 33) RE: Squardon/Signal Books by Shane Weier 34) Re: Ax murder by gspring@ix.netcom.com 35) RE: Ax murder by Shane Weier 36) Re: Ax murder by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 37) Re: WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:25:18 -0500 From: barrett@eyepoint.com (barrett) To: wwi Subject: Message to Carlos Valdes Message-ID: Carlos: Having trouble getting through to your personal E-mail address, please send it again. Thanks Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:57:12 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <199612050357.AA29678@ednet1.orednet.org> Kevin wrote: >I know nothing about axes. I do keep a bayonet attached to the end of >my .54 cal buffalo gun. >Kevin What, no one uses a Spandau anymore? At the least, I would assume that anyone on this list would prefer a bayonet equipped Lee-Enfield or '03 Springfield to a buffalo gun. :-) Cheers, -- -Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org- "Listen - strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:45:18 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: "World War I modeler's list" Subject: WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 Message-ID: <32A5F0EE.333C@netjava.net> Hello all, I have been buried in relatives and am remiss in some comitments I made. All is not lost, my copier is working overtime nd promissed material will be in yhe mail real soon. Someone, I've lost the post, pointed out the two MoHs for the USAS mission to the "Lost Batalion". There were two more. The two recipients were 2nd Lt. Ralph Talbot USMC (pilot) and Corp. Robert G. Robinson USMC (gunner) of Squadron "C", First Marine Aviatin Force. Returning from a mission over Theilt Velgum, 14 October 1918 they encountered 12 enemy A/C. They shot down two and Robinson was severely wounded. The award was for heroisim in this action and for other outstanding heroisn in othe actions. Robinson survived but Talbot was killied when he crashed the sane A/C he flew in the above action. This particular pos is paraphrased from C&C (US) Vol 6 No. 3. I can provide Xerox copies of this and other articles to any who may wish them. Being a former Marine myself, I find this post necessary. Cheers, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:29:08 -0500 From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: >Just out of curiosity, how many axe murderers do we have on the list? >Would you identify yourselves? I'm more of a blunt-instrument man >myself, but if my day continues the way it has been going, I may want >some pointers. Does anyone know anything about machetes? > >Rob, >robj@speechsys.com. Once, at boy scout camp, (Many, many, many years ago) I stabbed a guy in the hand with a fork. Does that count? John ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:44:49 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Announcements from the IPMS UK show, Pegasus, Blue Max Message-ID: <961204234449_1851805578@emout01.mail.aol.com> What you do, guv'ner is subscribe to Squadron Hobbies. Let them carry the Blue Max item for a couple of months and wait for them to run a $29.95 sale. Name witheld by request..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:57:03 -0500 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: In defense of Gabriele D'annunzio Message-ID: <961204235700_1651317941@emout06.mail.aol.com> IPMS classification: "Debauchers WWI and earlier" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:17:01 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: more aircraft profiles books Message-ID: <199612050517.AA10170@ednet1.orednet.org> The following post is off the r.m.s board if anyone is interested: From: rjheinz@digital.net (Bob_in_Fla) Newsgroups: rec.models.scale Subject: Books For Sale: AIRCRAFT PROFILES Date: Wed Dec 4 11:32:36 1996 I am selling following bound volumes ($20 ea.) and also single isssues ($4 ea) of AIRCRAFT PROFILES. Great series, published in England during 1960s and 1970s. These are rare and out-of-print now. Lotsa great stuff for model builder (e.g. color profiles) and aviation enthusiast. Shipping costs extra, to be determined by quantity ordered. Please e-mail me if interested. Thanks. AIRCRAFT IN PROFILE Bound Books $20 ea. ======================================= Volume 2: Nos. 25-48 Volume 4: Nos. 73-96 Volume 5: Nos. 97-120 Volume 6: Nos. 121-144 Volume 9: Nos. 193-210 Cheers, -- -Bill Shatzer bshatzer@orednet.org- "Listen - strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:25:51 +0100 (CET) From: javier ramos To: wwi Subject: Ax murder Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:16:40 -0500 Rob writes: > Just out of curiosity, how many axe murderers do we have > on the list? Would you identify yourselves? I'm more of > a blunt-instrument man myself, but if my day continues the > way it has been going, I may want some pointers. Does > anyone know anything about machetes? I cannot avoid to jump in this one! Thrust is better (I practice fencing with epee, not that flimsy floret thing or brutal sable, but I have not killed anybody yet). BTW: The British cavalry sword of WW1 is considered the best weapon ever designed for its purpose, avoiding the use of slash of typical cavalry sables. (I have seen too many lovely blades this weekend!). Javier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:06:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi group Subject: Sopwith Snipe Message-ID: Bought a display case in an auction two weeks ago and transferred some of my older models into it last night. One caught my eye and started me thinking. Its the Pamela Veal Byplanes 1/48 Sopwith Snipe, which I remember was one of the first multi-media vac and white metal kits. I realised that in the correspondence about "most wanted" etc, I have seen no reference to this subject. Does any other large scale soul know or have this kit? Or is the Snipe a subject that nobody cares for. I think it is the ultimate British WWI fighter and has a fabulous pugnacious look about it. The kit included WWI and silver postwar schemes and mine sits resplendent in Major WG Barker's markings (what else?) from his epic fight against two and a half million Fokkers. I don't know what happened to Pamela Veal (any knowledge?) but I remember there was a Bucker Jungmeister too. The Snipe is a little cracker and if you see one snap it up! Anybody else got one? Surely when we are getting to the stage of every conceivable shade of boring old Albatros, its time somebody like Eduard turned to the Snipe. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:31:44 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Sopwith Snipe Message-ID: <01BBE2EB.55714860@pc087b.mim.com.au> Sandy, >The Snipe is a little cracker and if >you see one snap it up! Anybody else got one? I wish. >Surely when we are getting to the stage of every conceivable shade of >boring old Albatros, its time somebody like Eduard turned to the Snipe. Ah, a man entirely after my own heart. Why can't they see the beauty of a nice PC10 and linen finish compared to all those garish Fokkers, the pugnacity of line compared to all those slippery fish shaped Pfalz, Rolands and Albatrii, the sheer *joy* of squadron markings as sophisticated as a white vertical bar, or personal ones as frivolous as "Maude". Truly, where are all the *real* enthusiasts ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 05:01:52 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <199612051301.FAA13262@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> Rob wrote: >Just out of curiosity, how many axe murderers do we have on the list? I'm more of a "kit murderer". I prefer an X-acto knife with a dull #11 blade. Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 05:16:05 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 Message-ID: <199612051316.FAA07054@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Bill Bacon wrote: >The two recipients were 2nd Lt. Ralph Talbot USMC (pilot) and Corp. Robert G. Robinson USMC (gunner) of Squadron "C", First Marine Aviatin Force. Does the C&C article you mentioned have a profile or picture of Talbot and Robinson's a/c? Even a serial number? Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 05:29:53 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: RE: Sopwith Snipe Message-ID: <199612051329.FAA16882@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> Shane wrote: >Ah, a man entirely after my own heart. Why can't they see the beauty of a >nice PC10 and linen finish compared to all those garish Fokkers, the >pugnacity of line compared to all those slippery fish shaped Pfalz, Rolands >and Albatrii, the sheer *joy* of squadron markings as sophisticated as a >white vertical bar, or personal ones as frivolous as "Maude". Now we know what weapon Shane uses: a highly-sharpened wit. Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 05:31:00 -0800 From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <199612051331.FAA07474@concord.televar.com> >Just out of curiosity, how many axe murderers do we have on the list? >Would you identify yourselves? I'm more of a blunt-instrument man >myself, but if my day continues the way it has been going, I may want >some pointers. Does anyone know anything about machetes? No experience with machetes here - My preference is a Stihl 028 with a 20" bar... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:14:04 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612050958.aa09605@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Once, at boy scout camp, (Many, many, many years ago) I stabbed a guy in > the hand with a fork. Does that count? > >John Roll Well, it fits the found object criterion suggested by one of our correspondents. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:16:42 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612051000.aa09625@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Kevin wrote: > > >I know nothing about axes. I do keep a bayonet attached to the end of > >my .54 cal buffalo gun. > >Kevin > > What, no one uses a Spandau anymore? At the least, I would assume that > anyone on this list would prefer a bayonet equipped Lee-Enfield or > '03 Springfield to a buffalo gun. :-) Nonsense. If we allow chemical propellants, a Martini-Henry and a supply of Buckingham or Pomeroy ammo would be just the ticket for office use. If we don't, maybe one of those dreadful-looking, homemade trench maces. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:20:14 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: In defense of Gabriele D'annunzio Message-ID: <9612051004.aa09649@scosysv.speechsys.com> > > a D-Day diorama (and all of the 1/35-scale scratchbuilt > > WACO CG-4A assault glider with full tubular structure) for > > our club's entry at IPMS Nationals in Omaha a couple years > > back. Never again. > > Hey, sorta off topic, but that was a cool dio. Way to go, > Rob! > > Matt > mbittner@juno.com Thank you. Somewhat off topic, maybe. But I only got stuck with the glider because I knew something about fabric-covered tube structures, something that frightened all those Messymitt builders. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:35:32 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612051019.aa09768@scosysv.speechsys.com> > I know nothing about axes. I do keep a bayonet attached to the end of > my .54 cal buffalo gun. What? So you can get in at close quarters and kill your buffalo like a man? Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:38:46 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612051022.aa09794@scosysv.speechsys.com> Mark: The best idea yet! > I, myself, prefer the use of a knout. It's a lot more fun to flay the > victims a piece at a time. I'd forgotten the knout since Flashman in the Great Game and Flashman at the Charge. But is there room to swing a knout in the office? And what about the poor sods that have cubicles? Are there sawed-off knouts for those close-quarters situations? Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:39:58 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612051024.aa09805@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Actually, forget the buffalo gun. I will now reveal my most hideous > secret of torture and mayhem - I make my victim build a Glencoe Albatros > (1/48 scale, of course). So far it has reduced every single one to a > blubbering mass of gelatin. I'll say this one more time. I liked my Glencoe Albatros. Real modeling, not at all like working on a Hitachi assembly line. I may have to buy another out of spite. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:23:49 -0500 From: "Gerald P. MCOSKER" To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: Sorry- I'm really a blunt kukri type- Cheerts Gerry. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:34:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: Knouts are for wimps - Knobkerries rule OK! Sandy On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Rob wrote: > Mark: > > The best idea yet! > > I, myself, prefer the use of a knout. It's a lot more fun to flay the > > victims a piece at a time. > I'd forgotten the knout since Flashman in the Great Game and Flashman > at the Charge. But is there room to swing a knout in the office? > And what about the poor sods that have cubicles? Are there sawed-off > knouts for those close-quarters situations? > Rob, > robj@speechsys.com. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:39:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: > I'll say this one more time. I liked my Glencoe Albatros. Real > modeling, not at all like working on a Hitachi assembly line. I may > have to buy another out of spite. > > Rob, Don't buy one - you can have mine for nothing - if you live anywhere near the eastern seaboard I should be able to throw it that far from here! All you gotta do is open the box and look inside and it sorta hurls itself automatically. Sandy (Scotland) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 13:45:03 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Squardon/Signal Books Message-ID: <1996Dec05.131436.1155.907774@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Brookhurst Hobbies shows coming in December 'D.H.9 in Action' (which was on a previous email) and in April 'Fokker D.VII in Action'. We can always hope they have someone knowledgeable write and/or proof read them... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 15:16:15 EST From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: Squardon/Signal Books Message-ID: <19961205.141549.4447.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:48:01 -0500 Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) writes: > Brookhurst Hobbies shows coming in December 'D.H.9 in > Action' (which was on a previous email) and in April > 'Fokker D.VII in Action'. We can always hope they have > someone knowledgeable write and/or proof read them... I don't remember where I saw this at (I think it was the latest WW1 Aero) but I think the person who wrote the Fokker Eindecker In Action is also doing the D.VII one. What do people think of the Eindecker In Action? Is it worth getting, or is it a typical In Action? np: Michelle Shocked _Kind Hearted Woman_ Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:47:41 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Squardon/Signal Books Message-ID: >Brookhurst Hobbies shows coming in December 'D.H.9 in Action' (which was on a >previous email) and in April 'Fokker D.VII in Action'. >We can always hope they have someone knowledgeable write and/or proof read >them... I believe that the Fokker in Action book will be written by the same fellow that did the Eindekker in Action book, based on a letter appearing in the most recent issue of WW I Aeroplanes. One has to wonder though with nearly 60 Datafiles to their credit where are the Datafiles on : The DH-4, DH-9, Breguet 14 and Salmson 2A2 ??? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 16:49:28 -0500 From: "Joseph R. Boeke" To: wwi Cc: meba@cso.com, mbittner@juno.com Subject: Re: FAQ info Message-ID: <9612052151.AA18512@mail.bucknell.edu> At 02:50 AM 12/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:55:16 -0500 Charles Hart wrote: > >> FWIW, I find the FAQ as presently configured to be pretty >> lengthy. Not to discredit your hard work Matt, you are to >> be commended for it, but wouldn't some of this information >> be more accessible if it resided on the regular Web page ? >> Particularly the information regarding mail order sources. >> The FAQ is directing people to the Web page. A shorter, >> more concise FAQ would help get them there faster and >> possibly onto the List. > >That's a great idea, Charles. I always have been concerned >about the length, and this is the best idea yet. Class? >Al? Matt, Al, et al I wonder if it might be possible for you to have two versions of the FAQ? I have forwarded the FAQ to several netizens who only have e-mail/USENET access to the INTERNET (although I'm not sure if they subscribed yet?). At any rate, while pointing people to the web page is good for many, there are still large numbers of people who can not (or don't know how to) access web pages. Perhaps, you could have a line that indicated a full version of the FAQ is available directly from you (via e-mail) and on the WWW page? - Joe +=================================+====================================+ | Joseph R. Boeke | Knowledge will forever govern | | Manager, Prospect Information | ignorance; and a people who mean | | Bucknell University | to be their own governors must arm | | (717) 524-3200 | themselves with the power which | | (717) 524-3610 (fax) | knowledge gives. | | boeke@bucknell.edu | -- James Madison | +=================================+====================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:54:28 GMT From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: >>Just out of curiosity, how many axe murderers do we have on the list? >>Would you identify yourselves? I'm more of a blunt-instrument man >>myself, but if my day continues the way it has been going, I may want >>some pointers. Does anyone know anything about machetes? There is no substitute for a finely sharpened pole-ax IMHO. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 06:52:05 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sopwith Snipe Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Sandy Adam wrote: > Bought a display case in an auction two weeks ago and transferred some of > my older models into it last night. One caught my eye and started me > thinking. > Its the Pamela Veal Byplanes 1/48 Sopwith Snipe, which I remember was one > of the first multi-media vac and white metal kits. When was this kit available? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:51:06 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Ax murder Message-ID: <01BBE352.9FA5FEA0@pc087b.mim.com.au> Rob, >What? So you can get in at close quarters and kill your buffalo like >a man? What? A weapon !! Watchers of Croc Dundee know it's done with the index and little finger of the right hand ;-) BTW, I'm a great believer in a short length of 4 x 2 Shane (For Tom, I'll sharpen it, with my whit (tle) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:57:04 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Squardon/Signal Books Message-ID: <01BBE353.744091C0@pc087b.mim.com.au> Charles D writes: >Brookhurst Hobbies shows coming in December 'D.H.9 in Action' (which was on a >previous email) and in April 'Fokker D.VII in Action'. >We can always hope they have someone knowledgeable write and/or proof read >them... Why ask them to change the habit of a life time. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to prove to myself that I know more than someone else about something - a RARE occurance for this lad. I wonder if we'll get any photos that aren't already fairly well known? Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:07:46 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: RE: Ax murder Message-ID: <9612051551.aa12575@scosysv.speechsys.com> I wrote > >What? So you can get in at close quarters and kill your buffalo like > >a man? Shane responds in high dudgeon re bludgeons: > What? A weapon !! ... BTW, I'm a great believer in a short length of 4 x 2 So, we return to the classic blunt instrument. The 2x4 is, however, inconvenient to hold and, if properly seasoned, lacking in striking power. Tire irons and lengths of steel conduit are no doubt effective, with good Biblical antecedents ("I shall break them with a rod of iron"), but they lack the warmth and intimacy of wood. I thus prefer the classic American bludgeon, the implement of our national pastime, the Louisville slugger. Mind you, a fungo bat also has its proponents among experienced ball players and those of an artistic temperament. For those who require metal AND the warmth of natural materials, America also has a classic for you: the handy black jack or sap. A guy I new in college had a nice one, with cast lead functional part and a handsome, plaited leather cover for elegance and ease of handling close in. Well, if that's the sum of the list's advice, I think I'll go and lay about me here in the office. Thanks all. urrraRRGGHHH! Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:10:36 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Squardon/Signal Books Message-ID: <01BBE355.58BE1C40@pc087b.mim.com.au> Matt: >What do people think of the Eindecker In Action? Is it >worth getting, or is it a typical In Action? Buy it. IMHO the best of SS efforts in the WW1 line by far. Shane nb: Eduard MS-L nb(desultorily): Bristol F.2b, Albatros W.4 n.l silence, the best accompaniment nu: too many to choose !! caloo calay, oh frabjous day ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:27:24 -0800 From: gspring@ix.netcom.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <1996125172629541@ix.netcom.com> On 12/05/96 13:38:31 Sandy wrote: >Knouts are for wimps - Knobkerries rule OK! How ecumenical! I have an aquaintance who hunts wild boar on his ranch with assegais. I'm not a fan of edged (or blunt) impact weapons myself but I will allow as how there might be some cathartic value in pulling the old claymore out of the thatch and trying for a replay of Prestonpans: "... where the broadswords came whirling out of the mist." -George MacDonald Fraser Cheers! Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:40:03 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Ax murder Message-ID: <01BBE359.75CBB6E0@pc087b.mim.com.au> Greg, Oh Greg, how could you ! >How ecumenical! I have an aquaintance who hunts wild boar on his ranch with >assegais. I'm not a fan of edged (or blunt) impact weapons myself but I >will allow as how there might be some cathartic value in pulling the old >claymore out of the thatch and trying for a replay of Prestonpans: when you told ME: >I just returned from K-Mart. I prefer a double-bitted axe. You can >catch 'em on the backstroke!;-) he he Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 19:17:59 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ax murder Message-ID: <199612060017.TAA15629@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 06:30 PM 12/5/96 -0500, gspring@ix.netcom.com wrote: >On 12/05/96 13:38:31 Sandy wrote: > > >"... where the broadswords came whirling out of the mist." > > -George MacDonald Fraser Sandy I know this is real off topic(as if ax murdering isn't) but when is this guy going to write his book about Flashman in the Civil War...War Between the States...War for Southern Independence(Did I get them all?) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 19:43:05 -0500 From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WWI USMC Medals of Honor in DH-4 Message-ID: <199612060043.TAA15687@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 08:19 AM 12/5/96 -0500, Thomas Eisenhour wrote: >Bill Bacon wrote: > >>The two recipients were 2nd Lt. Ralph Talbot USMC (pilot) and Corp. >Robert G. Robinson USMC (gunner) of Squadron "C", First Marine Aviatin >Force. > >Does the C&C article you mentioned have a profile or picture of Talbot >and Robinson's a/c? Even a serial number? I looked things up in Sloan's "Wings of Honor". Not too much mentioned. They apparently were flying a DH9A. The Marines received this plane, E-8465, from the Briitish. Talbot & Robinson were flying this airplane on Ooct. 4 when they shot down an enemy fighter...the first victory for the Marines. 5 more DH9A's were soon delivered and the flight to the Theilt Junction took place. Unfortunately, the book doesn't mention which airplane they flew for that mission(E-8465???????). HTH Mike Muth ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 351 *********************