WWI Digest 318 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) A.G. Whitehouse, MvR, etc. by "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" 2) Claton Knight by Bill Bacon 3) Re: Re[2]: Rumpler G-types by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 4) Re: Aileron cranks by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 5) ADV. Blue Rider New Products by Richard Humberstone 6) Off topic Jane's question by meba@cso.com 7) Re: HELP! looking for Gotha kit by boeke@bucknell.edu (Joseph R. Boeke) 8) Fine Scale Modeler by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 9) Re: Agricultural vehicles by GRBroman@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:37:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" To: wwi Subject: A.G. Whitehouse, MvR, etc. Message-ID: <961104223732.22e0341a@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> In response to: Mark Lawrence Shannon To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Question about Arch Whitehouse in the RFC -- >Oh, wonderful! I've used the compiled list and descriptions in your book >to see what the cross-tally of MvR's victories with the British losses. >Now you want to know whether A.G. Whitehouse was one of them? >If I remember, he said he was one of the 48, 49, or 50th victims of MvR as >a gunner in a Fee. He claimed that MvR's report was all wrong, since the >plane didn't go down in flames and swore he was firing the whole time when >MvR's report said the gunner hadn't been able to shoot at him because he >had manuvered in such a way as to prevent it the whole time. I always took >it to be that AGW's adventure was actually with another pilot of the Jasta >11 crew, but he claimed the most recognizable name. I don't remember the >name of his overview of WWI in the air, but he spends a lot of it deriding >MvR as a charletan. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + No, I'm not trying to resurrect AGW as being on MvR's "hit parade." The old C&C Journal "expose" of AGW has always left a bad taste in my mouth -- as if the author felt compelled to reveal some great truth. But, having nothing (at the time) to refute the hatchet-job on AGW, I went on to other projects. Meanwhile, more and better information HAS come to light -- notably, official recognition that AGW did, in fact, receive the M.M. For him to be on an Honours List in the "RFC Communiques" indicates to me that old Arch (or, I guess young Arch in those days) did something commendable. So, maybe there was more to AGW than the unflattering discussions that have arisen. Maybe there's the beginning of an interesting article (for someone else to do), if only to set the record straight. It's just a thought at this time and, if someone can find AGW's citation in the British records, it might be worth looking into. PK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 21:44:53 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: "World War I modeler's list" Subject: Claton Knight Message-ID: <327EB835.2E7E@netjava.net> An interesting news release. > CENTRAL CONNECTICUT STATE UNIVERSITY > New Britain, Connecticut 06050 > > News Release Stephen Ross > CCSU News Bureau > (860) 832-1790 > > > > > > > Former West Redding Resident Clayton Knight > Honored in New Book on World War I Air Combat History > > > Aviation artist and writer Clayton Knight made his home on > Umpawaug Road in West Redding for many years until his death in 1969. > He is gone but not forgotten, as seen in the new book by Peter Kilduff, > "Over the Battlefronts: Amazing Air Actions of World War One" (Arms & > Armour Press, London / Sterling Publishing Co., New York). The author > dedicates the book to Knight's memory, uses one of the artist's > paintings on the book's cover art and includes a chapter about the > former West Redding resident's flying career in World War I. > The author is director of university relations at Central > Connecticut State University in New Britain but the new book, his > eighth, is far removed the serenity of the campus. In "Over the > Battlefronts" Kilduff takes the reader into the primitive air combat > of eight decades ago. He relates Clayton Knight's last dogfight and > shooting down a Fokker fighter while flying with the Royal Air Force. > The book also includes the exploits of an Austro-Hungarian flying boat > ace, a 52-year-old Italian poet and highly decorated flier, crewmembers > trying to survive in a blazing Zeppelin, a German balloonist firing his > rifle to knock down an attacking Russian aircraft, and other fighter and > bomber crews for whom each flight was a journey into unknown territory. > Kilduff, whose 40-year study of World War I aviation history has > taken him to archives in the U.S. and abroad, says he has long wanted > to write about these little-known air actions: "Combat reports and > other records are full of 'nuggets' that don't offer enough information > for a book, but make interesting stories on their own. When my > publisher asked me for an anthology, I had material ready to go. There > are a few 'big names' in the book, but most of the fliers portrayed > were ordinary people who did their duty and then went about their > lives. In many cases, when I contacted the families and friends of > these fliers, they were surprised that the old records still exist." > The author recalls one episode involving international politics: > "After I made contact in what was the communist satellite of East > Germany, the family didn't want it known that a member had flown under > the regime of the last Kaiser (emperor). They felt it would not be > good for them to be identified with 'imperialists.' After the > communist regime fell in 1990, the eastern German family suddenly > 'discovered' fascinating photos that I use in my book,' Kilduff said. > Most of all, writing the book also gave the New Britain author an > opportunity to pay tribute to his friend and mentor, Clayton Knight. > "I met Clayton when I was in the Navy in 1961," Kilduff recalls, "and > was thrilled to be invited many times to visit his home in West > Redding. We talked a lot about his World War I flying career and the > many famous people in aviation he knew. While I was in college and > into my first 'real' job as a newspaper reporter, he also gave me tips > on how to improve my writing. > "When my wife and I went to Germany on our honeymoon, I tracked > down the family of the German fighter pilot with whom Clayton had his > last airfight. I learned that they had shot each other down. Clayton > was pleased to learn that fact, but never stopped kidding me about > conducting research while honeymooning," the author says. > Military aviation history has long been Peter Kilduff's hobby, but > recently it has propelled him to a certain celebrity status in print > and on national television. With the appearance of "Over the > Battlefronts" Kilduff has three books in print at the same time. His > biography of famed fighter ace Manfred von Richthofen -- titled > "Richthofen - Beyond the Legend of the Red Baron" (Arms & Armour Press, > London / John Wiley & Sons, Inc., New York) -- is now in its second > printing. An earlier book -- "Germany's First Air Force 1914-1918" > (Arms & Armour / Sterling) -- has just appeared in a second edition. > He has also contributed to two new anthologies: "Classic Royal Air Force > Battles" edited by RAF Air Chief Marshal Sir Michael Armitage (Arms & > Armour / Sterling), and "Facing Armageddon: The First World War > Experienced" edited by Dr. Hugh Cecil and Peter H. Liddle of the > University of Leeds (Leo Cooper, London). > In addition to his recent appearance on the Arts & Entertainment > Network's "Biography" segment on the Red Baron, Kilduff provided > research for The History Channel's recent "Four Years of Thunder" > series about World War I aviation. He will appear in the forthcoming > elevision series "Airpower Showdown" produced by Aviation Week & Space > Technology magazine. > The author of five other books on aviation history -- including > one on A-4 Skyhawk jet aircraft and one on World War II aircraft > carrier operations -- Kilduff is currently working on his ninth book. > It will be a companion volume to his Richthofen biography. > Peter Kilduff is a founding member and immediate past president of > The League of World War I Aviation Historians, as well as former > managing editor of its quarterly journal "Over the Front." > > # # # Bill Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 23:40:55 EST From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: Rumpler G-types Message-ID: <199611050440.AAA00950@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Riordan, Sorry, but I didn't produce that great index. Your copies will be in the mail tomorrow, though, BTW. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 04:34:07 EST From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: Aileron cranks Message-ID: <19961104.210413.4447.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:25:50 -0500 Sandy Adam writes: > Personally I would find a set of various cranks, a set of > various design seats, some assorted instruments and > interior equipment, a set of assorted control columns and > a set of rudder bars for example, invaluable. I'm sure > the list is endless but the principal is simple. - making > sets of components rather than one set only for a specific > aircraft. Any thoughts? Basically, this is what the Tom's Modelworks photoetch interior sets provide. Sure, on a typical "fret" there is almost all of the above - and not one "fret" per "item" (control column, etc.) - but they're worth their price in "brass". :-) Fotocut also makes a set of seat backs only (you provide the plastic (or whatever material) seat) as well as instrument bezels. With the Tom's sets, you usually get aileron cranks, rudder "bars", control columns, throttle's, engine starters, seats, belts, etc. etc. etc. There are three sets from Tom's: British, German and French. IMNSHO, you're doing yourself a disservice if you aren't building with these. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 14:22:20 GMT From: Richard Humberstone To: wwi, SopwithHob@aol.com, wiseowl@sprintmail.com, bac@lbrnb.sfos.ro, Subject: ADV. Blue Rider New Products Message-ID: <847203780.516623.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> New releases from Blue Rider Publishing. Release date for all the items listed below is 30 November 1996. Carinthian Air War Sheet 3 - Aircraft of Austrian Fliegerhorst 2a Decals for Albatros D.III (Oef) (2) and Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (2). Complements our coverage of the Carinthian Border War series with sets no. BR229 & BR230. 1/72 scale - BR246 - Price GBP 3.50. Bulgarian 'OF' Roundels 1944-50 A selection of several types of roundels plus rudder striping in 1/72 scale suitable for the following types: Messerschmitt Bf-109, Petlyakov Pe-2, Focke Wulf Fw-44 & Fw-58, Yak-9M, LAZ-7, Avia B.534, Arado Ar-196 and Dewoitine 520. 1/72 scale BR247 - Price GBP 3.50. Fokker Dr.I's of Jasta 11 A 1/48 scale decal sheet for 3 Fokker Dr.I's of Jasta 11 during 1918. 1/48 scale BR510 - Price GBP 3.50. Fokker Dr.I's of Jasta Boelcke A 1/48 scale decal sheet for 3 Fokker Dr.I's of Jagdstaffel Boelcke during 1918. 1/48 scale BR511 - Price GBP 3.50. Tintin Decals Sheet 2 Decals for aircraft making appearances in Herg's Tintin. Schemes included for a Hawker Demon, Auster AOP and a Spitfire Mk. V. 1/72 scale CD-002 - Price GBP 3.75. Tintin Decals Sheet 3 More decals for aircraft making appearances in Herg's Tintin. Schemes included for a de Havilland Mosquito FB Mk. VI and a Mil Mi-1 'Hare'. 1/72 scale CD-003 - Price GBP 3.75. Bumper Decal Pack 1 Twenty-five decal sheets previously issued with Blue Rider and Phoenix kits, for a variety of countries. 1/72 scale BDP-001 - Price GBP 5.00. Bumper Decal Pack 2 A pack combining all three Carinthian War sheets (BR229, BR230 & BR246) with a saving of 1.00. 1/72 scale BDP-002 - Price GBP 9.50. Insignia Magazine No. 4 Featuring free decals for a 1919 Bulgarian Navy Friedrichshafen FF33L. Articles on Russian Civil War Aircraft, Polish Air Force, Lithuanian Markings Official Manual, Latvian Army Air Reserve, more Albatros D.III (Oef) colour schemes plus reviews and letters. IN-004 - Price GBP 4.50 Insignia Air Force Special No. 1 Lithuanian Air Force 1918-40 A 48 page A5 book with full colour covers, including 50 rare pictures and 40 1/72 drawings. Two A5 decal sheets for eight aircraft are also included. AFS-001 - Price GBP 9.50 All prices are UK Pounds Sterling. Please contact Blue Rider for further details and payment/postage information on +44 181 672 3049 or e-mail us on newproducts@stratauk.demon.co.uk or br_kits@cosmos-uk.org. Best regards Richard Humberstone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:30:08 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Off topic Jane's question Message-ID: <199611051329.NAA22705@cso.com> Does anybody have the 1920 Jane's? I'm looking for a good, clear copy of the photo of the float-equipped Macchi M.16 that appears 248a. TIA! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 21:59:35 GMT From: boeke@bucknell.edu (Joseph R. Boeke) To: wwi Subject: Re: HELP! looking for Gotha kit Message-ID: <9611052201.AA15708@mail.bucknell.edu> In rec.models.scale, Patrick Tobin wrote: >Jim Murphy wrote: >> >> > where can I find a RarePlane Gotha GIV kit in 1/72?? >> > unbuilt kit, of course... >> > thanks a lot >> > >> > franco poloni >> >> You might try Roll Models at http://www.rollmodels.com >> >> Jim > > Meikraft has announced an injected Gotha in 1/72. It should be a very >nice kit, > if their Caproni is any indicator. Unfortunately, their delivery time >is even > slower than AM. > P.T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Fine Scale Modeler Message-ID: <199611060158.UAA05359@ns1.ptd.net> I'm probably the only one on this list who buys this thing at my local newstand. It just came out today. I realize most of you have already seen the spread on Roger Belanger's stuff, but I just saw it. Really nice...just missing things with 2 and 3 wings, however ;-) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:41:36 -0500 From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Agricultural vehicles Message-ID: <961105214133_1215320619@emout01.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-11-04 21:36:07 EST, you write: >Attention WW1 agricultural vehicle fans! A color photo of a >privately owned US 6-ton tank (FT-17) can be found at >http://members.aol.com/mvehicle/vehicles.htm. Agricultural vehicle? ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 318 *********************